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As every Reds fan from the 90s remembers, Deion Sanders popped up in the outfield from time to time.  Neon Deion garnered a lot of attention as a two sport athlete and stole some bases for the Reds.  He even showed up on the cover of Sports Illustrated.  But he wasn't the first Reds player to also be a professional football player.  He wasn't even the best.

Alfred Earle "Greasy" Neale was born in 1891 in Parkersburg, WV.  He broke into the majors in 1916, and played nearly his entire career with the Reds, manning right field next to Edd Roush who also joined the Reds in 1916.
  The speed of Neale and the arm of Roush must have made for an intimidating outfield defense.  In fact, Greasy led the league in fielding percentage in 1918.  Beginning in 1917, Greasy also played football in the Ohio League, the precursor to the NFL.  That year, he played for Jim Thorpe (another multi-sport athlete) and the Canton Bulldogs.  In 1918, he played for and coached the Dayton Triangles.  His teams won the Ohio League Championship both seasons. 

Neale had left the Reds before the season ended to play football, but in 1919, his baseball team was winning like his football teams had done.  The Reds were led by the offensive force of Edd Roush and Heinie Groh, and by an incredibly strong pitching staff.  Neale's contributions involved slap hitting his way on base and then running like crazy.  If he couldn't do that, then he would move the other runners ahead of him.  He had 31 sacrifice hits that season.  Greasy was never a strong hitter, and that season was actually one of his worst (.242/.316/.316), but something funny happened in the World Series - other than players from Chicago throwing games.  Groh and Roush slumped badly in the World Series, but Neale took off like gangbusters.  He hit .357 and OPSd .864 to be the top hitter for the Reds in the Series, and did it all from the 7th spot in the order.  His baserunning failed him though, as he stole only one base and was caught stealing four times.

After the season was over (Greasy had played the whole season for the Reds that year), Neale played for the Massillon Tigers.  It was his last year as a football player, and the 1920 season would be his last full year as a baseball player.  His offense was just about gone, but Neale still had one incredibly valuable role to play for the Reds.  Before the 1921 season, he was traded to the Phillies for Eppa Rixey, who would go on to pitch more innings and win more games for the Reds than anyone in history.  The kicker was that after only 22 games with the Phillies, Neale was placed on waivers and reclaimed by the Reds.  Neale's skills were pretty much irretrievably gone, but ironically he had his highest OBP ever in his time with the Phillies.  Greasy would see Philadelphia again.

Neale's stats end up looking pretty similar to Deion's.  Greasy played 768 games, stole 139 bases, and had a slash line of .259/.319/.332.  Sanders played 641 games, stole 186 bases, and put up a line of .263/.319/.392.  Sanders is the only man to have won a World Series and a Super Bowl, but Neale won a World Series and two Ohio League championships, the highest prize at the time.  He would also coach two NFL championship teams.

Following baseball, Greasy Neale became a college football coach at Washington & Jefferson College (which he took to the 1922 Rose Bowl), Virginia, and West Virginia.  In 1941, he became coach of the Philadelphia Eagles and eventually took them to championship glory.  In 1948 and 1949, the Eagles won the NFL Championship and became the only team to win titles with back to back shutouts.  The Eagles have only won other championship.  Neale developed the Eagle Defense, which was a precursor to the popular 4-3 defense used today.  Neale was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1967, and the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1969.  He was the first man to make it into both as a coach.

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Love this guy and his story ... but his name is Alfred, nukkah.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 7, 2010 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

And here he is rocking my favorite Reds hat of all time

Seriously, I love this cap. The ‘C’ along with the Red band around brim are just sweet.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 7, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I want that hat

"Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

Dusty Baker on RR

by DTFH91 on Dec 7, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Found it. I forgot about the pinstripes but I still it.

There are some other great old replica hats, here, too.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 8, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

The 1914-1925 Reds road hat is my favorite.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 8, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

That is amazing

I like this one quite a lot too

"Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

Dusty Baker on RR

by DTFH91 on Dec 8, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, that's a good one but I can't tell if the white piping goes all the way around.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 8, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Fixed

According to Wikipedia, he picked up the name Greasy in “a name-calling joust with a friend.” Fantastic.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 7, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I read that it's awesome.

I know his numbers aren’t show-stopping but I still think the Reds should induct him into their hall of fame. Or retire his “name” or something. Easily one of the biggest figures in eary-20th century American sports.

Also, they should sell those hats again. (They used too but never had my size.)

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 7, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't you just buy the sundae and get the hat for free?

"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

They don't serve sundae in hat-cups no more! Or do they? I've been looking for years.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 8, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

hhhhmmmm, dunno

I seem to remember getting two for the kids at the ballpark last year or the year before.

"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

GOD DAMNIT! WHERE? WHICH CONCESSION STAND?!?!?!?!!?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 8, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

UDF, RF line if I recall correctly

"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap this guy could play

defense.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 7, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff

He really did have a similar career compared to Deion. Neale had a few more games, but that’s possibly because Deion faced more of an overlap in the baseball and football schedules. They hit similarly, had great speed, and made a few appearances among the league leaders and defensive stats. And both were associated with annoying as hell football franchises.

by ken on Dec 8, 2010 7:30 AM EST reply actions  

In researching Neale

I learned that the Dayton Triangles rather indirectly became the Indianapolis Colts. A part of me died inside.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 8, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Greasy and Heinie...huh huh

Uh huh huh huh.

Wish I was high right now.

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Dec 8, 2010 9:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

This is my favorite so far.

Enjoying this series very much. Thanks for the good work.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 8, 2010 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

ditto

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This is truly inspirational !

I made copies and forwarded them to Wily Taveras and Corey Patterson…

"Men today are pussies or gay" Aja Warren

by Madville on Dec 8, 2010 10:08 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

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