•Were it not for his salary, the Reds might be a more serious suitor for Zack Greinke. However, a rival executive says Cincinnati is "tapped out," payroll-wise.

This sort of stuff makes me sad and want to agree with Paul Daugherty.

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Please be a smokescreen, please be a smokescreen...

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.

by chesirecat on Dec 15, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions

this

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions

Greinke, at $13.5M, is completely out of the question

But here’s what I can tell you with some certainty:

If the Reds give $16M to Cueto, Volquez, Votto, Bray and Burton, they’ll have about $4M bucks. If the settlements go their way, maybe $5M. Ironically, that’s enough to add Justin Upton next season.

Need the number of that store where they make ceramics in an oven made out of damaged circus supplies. It's called Rumpled Stilts Kiln. - Jon Wurster

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions

Hmmm

I didn’t have a problem with extending Arroyo… but when that stops us from getting someone like Grienke…

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Dec 15, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions

I think the ask in prospects may be stopping them as much as, or more than, the money

With Lee signed, Greinke could be the only “ace” available, potentially until 2012 – or at least until the trade deadline this year. He’s going to command the farm and there are teams more desperate for pitching who are also willing to pay his full salary. I think it was probably a non-starter even before Arroyo’s option was picked up.

Need the number of that store where they make ceramics in an oven made out of damaged circus supplies. It's called Rumpled Stilts Kiln. - Jon Wurster

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions