Compare & Contrast: A superficial glance at Center Field
Position: Center Field
2010 Innings breakdown: Drew Stubbs - 85%
Chris Heisey - 10%
Chris Dickerson - 3%
Jim Edmonds - 2%
Laynce Nix - 1%
2010 Composite batting line (over 650 PA):
|
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
SB |
CS |
BB |
SO |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
|
576 |
101 |
146 |
22 |
6 |
24 |
80 |
30 |
6 |
59 |
186 |
.253 |
.325 |
.440 |
.766 |
|
BABIP |
Contact Rate |
Walk Rate |
Batting Eye |
SBO |
RC/G |
|
.332 |
67.7% |
9.0% |
0.31 |
23.8% |
5.05 |
2010 Composite NL average center field batting line (over 650 PA):
|
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
SB |
CS |
BB |
SO |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
|
580 |
84 |
150 |
28 |
5 |
15 |
61 |
23 |
7 |
56 |
128 |
.260 |
.330 |
.407 |
.736 |
|
BABIP |
Contact Rate |
Walk Rate |
Batting Eye |
SBO |
RC/G |
|
.309 |
77.9% |
8.6% |
0.44 |
19.0% |
4.42 |
2011 Contract status:
Stubbs - not yet arbitration eligible
Heisey - not yet arbitration eligible
Dickerson - with Milwaukee
Edmonds - free agent
Nix - free agent
Advanced minor league depth:
Chris Burke - age 30, 674 OPS at AAA
Dave Sappelt - age 23, 902 OPS at High A, AA, AAA
Relative win increase, 2010 vs. 2009: +2
Brief summary of 2010: Drew Stubbs presented a tale of two seasons: for the first four months, Drew Stubbs struck out too much, had an OPS in the 680 range, and seemed to make shaky defensive errors at inopportune times. If it was an improvement over the Willy Tavares era, it was marginal at best. While Chris Heisey provided decent backup support with the bat, there was a clear drop-off when it came to defensive range. In the final third of the season, Stubbs lit it up: 10 doubles, 9 home runs, 23 walks, 12 stolen bases, and 28 RBI. Whereas much of the offensive storyline for the early part of the year centered around Joey Votto and Scott Rolen, August and September were about a big three of Votto, Jay Bruce, and Stubbs.
Way too early knee-jerk outlook for 2011: If Stubbs is already at a 20/30 level, can he get to 30/30? While providing Gold Glove caliber defense? We tend not to get too down on strikeouts in these parts, but the only way Stubbs graduates to the next hitting tier is if he cuts down on the strikeouts. Not mentioned in the superlative hitting numbers over the final two months of the season was Stubbs's 56 whiffs. Stubbs was producing by sustaining a .420 BABIP over this two-month span, which seems an unlikely guarantor of future success. The team has put their collective center field eggs in the Drew Stubbs basket, and he's going to get every chance to prove them right. When he's on, there's not a more exciting player on the team. Fans with dreams of 30/30 seasons are likely to be disappointed, however, as Stubbs will be prone to extended slumps when his swing isn't exactly right.
Bottom line: There's this feeling of paradox around Drew Stubbs, wherein he feels so much younger as a ballplayer than his age of 25 would indicate. Similarly, his future was downplayed through his progression through the minors, while now that he's shown the ability to succeed at the major league level, the expectations have grown significantly. It can be tough to project a player with 700 career at-bats, but we can use some generalities to guide us: 1) his speed and defense are not in danger of disappearing anytime soon; 2) Stubbs has shown a glimpse of power, which is a tool which tends to peak a bit later than other skills; 3) he's nearing an age where many players tend to peak. I don't expect Stubbs to ever be a superstar, and when the downside of his career comes, I think things will get very ugly very fast. We're not there yet, and we should be due 4-5 years where 2010 represents the floor, with 1 or 2 seasons where Stubbs is considered a borderline all-star. Buy.
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I like him a lot.
It’s amazing to think he ended the year with a 106 OPS+ the way he started it. And I think it’s only going to go well from there. a BABIP in the .400s is ridiculous, but Stubbs should be hitting in the 330s because of his speed. If he learns to bunt, it could be fantastic. If he learns to hit doubles, it could be fantastic.
I don’t really want him leading off because I doubt he’ll ever OBP over .340. But he could be the #6 hitter of dreams.
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I agree
Cy’s right. He doesn’t fit at the top of the lineup. But he’ll make a lot of pitchers pay for walking Votto/Bruce. I think he’ll be an exciting Jayson Werth type (with better defense & looks) for 2-3 years, after which he’ll be traded for younger talent and he’ll underperform and decline in the Yankees’ or Angels’ lineup.
That makes me happy.
I'm not ready to give up on him as a leadoff guy yet
If he learns to bunt as well as Aubrey Huff, he should be able to boost his OBP enough to be acceptable for a leadoff guy. The Ks will always be high but hurt less when you’re hitting behind the 8 and 9 guys.
he's a lot like Mike Cameron...
not too shabby
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Mike Cameron's career numbers: .250 .340 .447 with around 133-176 strikeouts per full season.
Looks pretty darn similar to Stubbs.
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by RedsMasochist on Nov 4, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree by disagreeing
Your tone seems to be very cautious, seeming to downplay his season by dividing it in two. The reality is:
- For the season, his BABIP was a very sustainable .330, especially for someone with his speed.
- For the season, his wOBA was a very good (for a CF) .345.
- Combined with his defense, he was a 3-4 WAR player (UZR didn’t like his defense as much as Chone; fangraphs says he was worth 3.2 WAR this year, bbref says 4.1WAR).
Stubbs is an excellent CF right now; he’s shown he can be a better than average hitting CF with better than average defense. He’s also shown that his excellent stretches at the plate can overcome his poor stretches.
There’s no reason for doubt or concern. Even with the strikeouts, he’s absolutely worth keeping around.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Nov 2, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice. And I think you just invented a fun new game!
Let’s see….
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I wsh I had so
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by nycredsfan on Nov 2, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is this justin's entry?
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
by andromache on Nov 2, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny story: I gave justin my e-mail address so we could get in touch while he's in Turkey.
I was wondering why he didn’t e-mail me for a few weeks, so I asked him what was up.
And it turns out, get this…
…that he misspelled my address.
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by Cy Schourek on Nov 2, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
RR Gold, right here. I actually lol'd.
He might be a retard, but he’s OUR retard damnit.
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I wish I had something clever to say, so instead I'll cite an obscure stat noone cares about
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by nycredsfan on Nov 2, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't really believe this, but I DO believe it will start a comment frenzy to distract me from work.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It bothers me that I'm so much smarter than everyone here, but I'll humor you
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by Slyde on Nov 2, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Instead of participating actively in the discussion and educating and informing people I will make a dick joke or post a picture/link that only I find amusing
"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000
I'm on here all the time but very rarely say anything.
When I do, I like to think it’s clever and, occasionally, others do too.
Okay, bye for now.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Nov 2, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 2, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi.
Still here. But dammit, I’m busy.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Nov 2, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I was a baller

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by poojols on Nov 2, 2010 3:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Because you have a poojol?
"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000
one reason for doubt or concern
His big league season numbers look very different from his minor league numbers. He’s definitely not a sell candidate, but I’m not sure 20/30 isn’t his ceiling either.
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by Slyde on Nov 2, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OK
But 20/30 with plus defense is a hell of a CF.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
sure
But I don’t expect a player to sit at his ceiling. That’s what concerns me a little. Maybe we’ve already seen his best. I hope not, and even if we have, he can still be productive. But I still think the difference between his minor league performance and his big league performance is a reasonable concern for a drop off.
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by Slyde on Nov 2, 2010 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
What concerns me are his home/road splits. (I know, SSS, but that's a big gap.)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b#hmvis
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
This guy is going to get serious consideration for the Hall of Fame.
Just sayin’.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
If the road-half of Stubbs' splits featured an .865 OPS
he could bat cleanup for us all he wants.
And I still say Jay Bruce is the next Larry Walker.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't compare Texans to Canadians.
Joey Votto’s the next Larry Walker.
by the finest muffins on Nov 2, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Walker Texas Ranger?
"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000
In fact
I’ll go a step further. I think that a good comp to Stubbs right now is Mike Cameron – better than average hitter, lots of Ks, stellar defense, some speed on the bases. I don’t think it’s out of the question to think Stubbs ‘11-’14 will equal Cameron ‘99-’02.
Compared to his minor league numbers, 3 things stand out:
- He’s turned 16 “expected” 2B into 18 HR.
- He’s striking out in 28% of PA instead of 24%.
- He’s walking just 9% of PA instead of 12%.
As to the first point, everyone was waiting for him to develop power; as to the last two, that may be all we get with Stubbs. This is one place where the scouting may be more telling than the minor league performance. Again, even if he doesn’t get any better, I’m OK with him roaming CF for a few years.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
We've been comparing Stubbs to Cameron all year.
by Brian B on Nov 2, 2010 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"When Drew Stubbs was in Cameron's land"
“Let my Cameron go.”
by Brendanukkah on Nov 2, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still think
the power outage was because the Reds were trying to turn him into something he’s not: a leadoff hitter. He’s a guy with light-tower power who strikes out a lot. They wanted him to be a guy who makes contact and gets on base a lot. He tried, but it didn’t work. In the big leagues, he’s reverted to his natural playing style.
Which means the Reds must keep looking for a leadoff hitter, but I don’t think they need to look for a CFer.
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Hmmm
So who leads off next year if not Stubbs? The new ss? BP? Or someone else?
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Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
LFer
or more likley BP.
My fave lineup would be:
LF
C
Votto
Bruce
Rolen
BP
Stubbs
Janish
P
But then, it won’t happen. But my point is, I want a leadoff LFer.
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The Reds
say they’re looking for a leadoff hitter.
I would guess that means they know Stubbs isn’t it.
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i say go all Brian Downing
and hit Hanigan leadoff. I want the highest OBPs on the team hitting in front of JV.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
I can't see Dusty doing that
He’s an old-school guy who wants speed at the top of the order.
I think that’s why they tried so hard to make Stubbs into a leadoff hitter. With his speed, he’d be ideal. If he could make more contact, see more pitches, and get on base more.
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Ron Gant Redux
Here’s what I see for the lineup if Stubbs really has turned the corner, and we can expect him to put up comparable numbers to what he did in the last couple months.
3. Votto
4. Stubbs
5. Bruce
I’m pretty sure we won’t be seeing Rolen hitting cleanup anymore. We’ll never see Phillips there again, either. If Stubbs starts next year where he finished this one, he could be the cleanup hitter we’ve been looking for.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 2, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
avatar bet
If he’s in the lineup, Rolen will bat 4th on Opening Day next year.
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by Slyde on Nov 2, 2010 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't doubt it
Hopefully he will bathe in stem cells for the entire offseason and show up as vintage Rolen again and not as decrepit Rolen.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 2, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Pff, stem cells? I'm spending my stimulus money on 300 cups of coffee.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
I spent my stimulus money in 2005 on a car I couldn't afford!
/averageamerican’d
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
But it has 20% better gas mileage than your old car or something.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
So I can drive 20% more and ruin the o-zone!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it's like ostrich burgers
it has less fat but you eat more of it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 2, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I have never had one of these, but I'm intrigued.
I don’t have to stick my head in the sand to eat one, do I?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Optional, but I personally recommend it.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
Nah, cars EMIT ozone, so really, you're saving the environment.
/ohgodno
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
Just keep in mind
My hot stove league standings algorithm machine says we’re getting Jayson Werth, if Carl Crawford is unavailable.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I've thought about that too
but, Stubbs makes easy outs quite often. That makes it easier for pitchers to pitch around Votto to get to Stubbs.
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by JJ on Nov 2, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How about . . .
3. Votto
4. Bruce
5. Stubbs
by Don, the Rebel without a Blog on Nov 3, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
anyone check out fay's blog
says phillips was fourth best defensive second baseman. behind utley, hudson, and ellis. Apparently utley has more range than BP. bullshit
No, really
The link to the fangraphs chart is telling – BP was one of the worst 2B at getting to balls in his zone (RZR; Ellis was the best and Utley also very good), and got to only as many out of zone balls as Utley and Hudson despite playing 250-300 more innings (OOZ).
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
So says this year's data
BP has always been above average in getting to balls in his zone, even beating Utley in 2007 and 2008. He also beat Utley in OOZ in 2009. I’m not going to put too much weight on just one year’s worth of numbers.
by ken on Nov 2, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
but some seem awfully concerned about the results of a 10 person vote
I honestly don’t think the two are so far apart defensively that it matters which one rates over the other.
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by Slyde on Nov 2, 2010 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with that
And with BP’s 300 inning advantage, the real GG should go to him.
All awards are themselves silly but they can frame interesting discussions about how different fans perceive the game. Fay discussing the Fielding Bible awards is particiuarly significant because he’s introducing advanced defensive metrics to the masses. He admits he’s out of his element, but props to him for putting it out there.
by ken on Nov 2, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Two things
1. BP playing more innings shouldn’t matter for the Gold Glove. Utley still played 115 games at 2B; if he was better defensively, he should win the award. If he’d played 90 or fewer games there, you might convince me.
2. It doesn’t appear Fay wrote that; it looks like Nick Hurm did.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
Yea but...
Utley got to 31 more OOZ balls in ’08.
By UZR/150, Utley has been much better than BP over the last 3 years – 17 runs, or almost 2 wins in that time. That’s not insignificant. Chone, incidently, thinks BP is below average for a 2B.
To be clear: I don’t think there’s miles between the two, either. My original comment was only in reply to vottomatic’s “bullshit” comment – the idea that BP might only be the 4th best 2B is not only defensible but might be generous.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
Nobody, I repeat, NOBODY got more OOZ balls in '08
than Raven Riley.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 2, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The big problem with defensive stats
is the tension between the sample size sufficiency and the fluctuation of player performance (i.e., a guy might be a significantly worse or better fielder than he was 3 years ago). I know that you’re supposed to look at 3 years of defensive data, but for Utley that might not make sense because he had hip surgery before 2009. His UZR/150 and especially OOZ have gone down since. Utley’s still got a UZR/150 advantage in the past two years, but it’s now only about 5 runs/year.
I’m aware of the Total Zone discrepancy. It would be interesting to see what other players it rates much different from UZR. My instinct is to trust whichever side is more consistent with the scouts/fans view of the player. Agree with everything in your last paragraph.
by ken on Nov 2, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Weak Buy
I’m optimistic about Stubbs next year, but I don’t think this past year was that far off from who he really is. Which is a good thing.
I agree, weak buy
The BABIP is sustainable, but I think the power is going to decrease. The K rate is bordering on untenable, which is what scares me. If Stubbs can get that down about 5-7%, I think he’ll be a solid offensive player, more or less equal with this year. Hopefully he can add some steals too.
Tim Lincecum just won a World Series
Just sayin’…
by Brendanukkah on Nov 2, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Strong Sell
I know this comes as a shock to no one
Defensively, Stubbs has disappointed me on some level, but he still might be one of if not the fastest guys in the NL. Offensively, Stubbs still continues to suck.
I refuse to get excited about Stubbs until he can OBP North of .375 in the process of getting his OPS closer to .800.
...really?
so the only two non-“buy” CFs in the majors are Josh Hamilton and Carlos Gonzalez? McCutchen is borderline?
There are just not that many CFs who have a .375 OBP. If Stubbs can just repeat what he did this season, he’s easily in the upper 50% of CFs.
even if I give him .350, there were 6 CFs that fit that criteria
however, if I care more about OPS of near .800, that gives us 10 CFs
Regardless, Stubbs needs to either get closer to a .375 OBP, or closer to an .800 OPS. Pick one, I don’t care. Right now, he’s just an offensively lacking player.
by Highlifeman21 on Nov 4, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
you have a fundemental misunderstanding of offensive value
and total value, as well.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 5, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
you are incorrect
I understand value just fine
by Highlifeman21 on Nov 5, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
you gotta be kidding
The only players on the team who have OBPs north of .375 are Votto and Hanigan (and it may not be sustainable with Hanigan).
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by RedsMasochist on Nov 4, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
the Reds cannot survive with more than 1 glove man in the lineup
right now, Stubbs’ D and speed are the only things going for him
by Highlifeman21 on Nov 4, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Stubbs seems to really bother you.
So a .770 OPS and good defense is not survivable for the Reds (assuming a “glove guy” at short)? I’d guess a .758 OPS and poor defense in left from Jonny Gomes must really get you all riled up.
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by RedsMasochist on Nov 5, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Stubbs at .770 is better than average for CF; the table up top says the average NL CFer had a .736 OPS. Who are we going to get that’s better?
If we want an upgrade, the place to look is left field. That’s the traditional place for a big bat, not CF.
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LF defense does not matter
a .758 OPS from Gomes pissed me off to no end, and he got WAY too much playing time
I miss Dunn in LF
and honestly, Stubbs needs to play the type of D as advertised, b/c he blew plenty of “easy” plays for him
by Highlifeman21 on Nov 5, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and yet
You wanted Chris Dickerson in CF at the beginning of the season. The guy who OPS’d .518 this year. And was still worse than Stubbs last year: .743
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I wanted Dickerson's OBP
and his defense isn’t significantly worse than Stubbs
by Highlifeman21 on Nov 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that Stubbs' D was not as good as advertised
but the season he put up is still a fine season. The question for me is whether he can continue to hit as well as he did last year, or whether the power will go away to some extent. I’d love him to get on base more too, but that seems like it’s going to be pretty static and either he will make up for it with power and defense, or he won’t.
Sure, I guess it comes down to personal preference of SLG vs. OBP
b/c Stubbs will only give us one of those
by Highlifeman21 on Nov 13, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
But Dickerson's OBP was clearly not sustainable
It was higher in his brief big league career than in his lengthy minor league career.
I don’t think anyone had any beef with Dickerson’s defense, at least in CF. His problem was that he had a reputation for being injury-prone, and he couldn’t hit lefties.
Indeed, I would guess his unusually high OBP last year was because he was rarely used against lefties.
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Heard some in the Brewers org think Dickerson is a complete primadonna asshole
Apparently he pissed all over some very likable people in the organization. Guy was only there for a month and a half and had already worn out his welcome. Not sure if that means he’ll be dropped, but word is that he came in with an unearned sense of entitlement. Looking back on his time in Cincy, yeah, I can see that.
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hmmm
Not exactly a shock, after what Mr. Number1CenterFielder said to Daedalus. And his public whining about not being the starting CFer.
Good riddance.
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