RR Community Prospect Rankings: Mesoraco catches #14
Offering proof of his improving defense, Devin Mesoraco gunned down Billy Hamilton, blocked Enerio Del Rosario, and picked off Matt Klinker to secure the #14 ranking in this year's list. Some consider him a bust, some consider him a marginal prospect, and some still hold out hope. Hopefully Devin can have the breakout year many of us expect and vault himself up these rankings. Now onto #15. There are no new candidates today, but still plenty of enticing options left on the board. Who you got?
Also, before you vote, a few notes. Minorleagueball.com, John Sickels' great site on SBN, voted Yonder Alonso the #30 prospect in baseball. Also, a writer at The Hardball Times put up his Reds top 10 prospects list. It's pretty oriented towards fantasy value, but interesting nonetheless. Finally, if you are at all interested in Reds prospects, you need to be checking out Doug's excellent site, Redsminorleagues.com, on a daily basis. OK....vote!
Enerio Del Rosario, RHRP:
Made huge strides at 3 levels last season. Doesn't strike out a lot of people, but doesn't walk a ton either and keeps the ball in the ballpark. Also, is a ground ball machine (68.4 GB% in 2009). Stuff is not overpowering, but changes speeds well and "knows how to pitch".
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: 20
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed in 2007 out of the Dominican Republic
Highest Level Played: AAA (Louisville)
2009 Statistics:
Sarasota (A+): 31 G, 2-1, 1.98 ERA, 50 IP, 33 K, 6 BB, .92 WHIP
Carolina (AA) : 4 G, 0-0, 1.59 ERA, 5.2 IP, 9 K, 0 BB, .35 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 15 G, 1-0, 1.09, 24.2 IP, 12 K, 6 BB, 1.22 WHIP
Gigantes (DWL): 20 G, 3-2, 1.99 ERA, 22.2 IP, 11 K, 3 BB, .93 WHIP
Matt Klinker, RHSP:
Local product from Lakota West HS in Cincinnati. Late round pick who had success at 3 levels last season, but has finally caught up to his age. K/9 averages over 9, with a good walk rate, although this the first time in his career that it's been that high. Throws a 2-seam fastball and a looping 12-6 curve. A little prone to giving up HRs to lefties, at 1.43 HR/9 last year.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: NR
Age: 25
Draft/Acquisition Details: 15th round (469th pick), Reds, 2007
Highest Level Played: AAA (Louisville)
2009 Statistics:
Sarasota (A+): 9 GS, 2-2, 4.89 ERA, 42.1 IP, 42 K, 8 BB, 1.44 WHIP
Carolina (AA): 6 GS, 3-2, 2.95 ERA, 36.2 IP, 40 K, 13 BB, 1.09 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 5 GS, 2-2, 2.48 ERA, 29 IP, 30 K, 13 BB, 1.21 WHIP
Logan Ondrusek, RHRP:
Tall. Converted from a starter to setup man after 2007. Was old for his level in Sarasota, but pitched lights out there and had success at 3 levels last season. Doesn't strike out a lot of guys, but keeps the ball on the ground and in the ballpark. Walks weren't a huge concern last year, but that was a drastic outlier. He throws a 4-seam fastball in the low-mid 90s, and a change in the low 80s, along with a slider and cutter. Had a rough AFL campaign, giving up 4 HR in 10 innings after giving up 1 in 72 during the season.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: NR
Age: 25 (on February 13)
Draft/Acquisition Details: 13rd round (392nd pick), Reds, 2005
Highest Level Played: AAA (Louisville)
2009 Statistics:
Sarasota (A+): 13 G, 2-0, 0.96 ERA, 18.2 IP, 12 K, 7 BB, .75 WHIP
Carolina (AA): 24 G, 2-1, 1.65 ERA, 32.2 IP, 24 K, 12 BB, 1.01 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 19 G, 0-0, 1.74 ERA, 20.2 IP, 11 K, 2 BB, .87 WHIP
Peoria Saguaros (AFL): 10 G, 2-1, 13.50 ERA, 10 IP, 8 K, 2 BB, 2.4 WHIP
Donnie Joseph, RHRP:
Very effective in Billings and Dayton last season. Lots of strikeouts (11.34K/9), control may be an issue. Held hitters to a .165 average, and didn't give up any long balls in 33.1 IP. Downright nasty against lefties, and could move up the system quickly. Two pitch pitcher, with a fastball in the low 90s up to around 94, and an above average slider with plenty of break. Also known as a high-character guy.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: 11
Age: 22
Draft/Acquisition Details: 3rd round (88th pick), Reds, 2009
Highest Level Played: A (Dayton)
2009 Statistics:
Houston (NCAA): 31 G, 3-1, 2.16 ERA, 50 IP, 75 K, 22 BB, 1.10 WHIP
Billings (Rookie): 8 G, 2-0, 0.77 ERA, 11.2 IP, 11 K, 4 BB, .86 WHIP
Dayton (A): 16 G, 2-2, 4.35 ERA, 20.2 IP, 31 K, 10 BB, 1.11 WHIP
Josh Fellhauer, CF:
Cal St. Fullerton product displayed good plate discipline (7.5% BB rate) and solid contact skills (14.4% K rate) in Dayton this season. Has compact swing that doesn’t produce much power. Good runner, but not excellent. Somewhat like Chris Heisey, has solid tools but no outstanding ones. If he can stick in CF could be a solid prospect. If he needs to move to a corner spot probably lacks the power to progress.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: 13
Age: 22
Draft/Acquisition Details: 7th round (209th pick), Reds, 2009
Highest Level Played: A (Dayton)
2009 Statistics:
Cal State Fullerton (NCAA): 60 G, 227 AB, 6 HR, 55 RBI, 18 SB, .396/.478/.529/1.007
Dayton (A): 57 G, 236 AB, 7 HR, 23 RBI, 7 SB, .280/.351/.453/.804
Mariekson (D.D.) Gregorius, SS:
Has the arm and range to stick at SS. (DD at SS?) Good plate discipline at a young age, makes excellent contact (13% K rate). Has very little power, even for a SS, but that could develop as he gets older. Currently only listed at 6’-1", 152 lbs, so frame has room to fill out a bit.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: NR
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed in 2008 out of the Netherlands
Highest Level Played: A+ (Sarasota)
2009 Statistics:
Billings (Rookie): 50 G, 204 AB, 1 HR, 16 RBI, 8 SB, .314/.363/.387/.750
Sarasota (A+): 22 G, 71 AB, 0 HR, 2 RBI, 0 SB, .254/.274/.310/.584
Juan Carlos (J.C.) Sulbaran, RHSP:
Curacao product who built a reputation on the Netherlands national team in the WBC last summer. Didn't have the best debut season, but there are lots of things to be excited about. K/9 rate is excellent at 9.41, but needs to corral the fly balls, as that's where more than half of the balls hit landed, and his HR rate was not impressive. Same with walk rate, not good. Throws a fastball in the low 90s with a lot of movement that he can hit 94 with, and an average to above average changeup and curveball. Changeup runs in the low 80s, about a 10mph difference to fastball, and the curveball moves a lot too.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: 19
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: 30th round (899th pick), Reds, 2008
Highest Level Played: A (Dayton)
2009 Statistics:
Miguel Rojas, SS:
Rated by Baseball America as the best infield defender in the organization. Plays a plus-plus SS with good range, soft hands, and a strong arm. All of his value comes defensively, though, as his only real offensive weapon is the ability to make contact. Hits mostly groundballs and has very little power. Small frame that could grow, but right now projects as a defensive specialist, unless he can develop more plate patience and/or power.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: NR
Age: 21
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed in 2008 out of Venezuela
Highest Level Played: A (Dayton)
2009 Statistics:
Dayton (A): 130 G, 469 AB, 3 HR, 49 RBI, 14 SB, .273/.326/.339/.665
Sam LeCure, RHSP:
Formerly of the University of Texas, exhibits good command with a high pitching IQ. Throws a fastball in the low 90s that gets up to 93, and a changeup and slider. Nothing spectacular, but can locate all three pitches and is very consistent overall. K and BB rates are decent, and the walk rate is improved from last year. Gave up lots of dingers last year, but with his pitching acumen, could be a back of the rotation starter in the big leagues. May be a candidate for the bullpen, as he has some trouble with lefties.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: NR
Age: 26
Draft/Acquisition Details: 4th round (122nd pick), Reds, 2005
Highest Level Played: AAA (Louisville)
2009 Statistics:
Cibaenas (DWL): 4 G (2 GS), 0-2, 8.59 ERA, 7.1 IP, 6 K, 5 BB, 2.32 WHIP
Billy Hamilton, SS:
One of the best overall athletes in the system, but is very raw as a baseball player. Has excellent speed and a strong arm. Scouts think he will be able to stick at SS, although a move to CF is a possibility as well. Has a lot of work to do at the plate, but projects to have good power, especially for those positions. A 3 sport star in high school, will take some time to develop more baseball-specific skills. Very high ceiling and very low floor.
Baseball America rank: NR
2009 RR CPR rank: NR
2010 John Sickels Rank: 12
Age: 19
Draft/Acquisition Details: 2nd round (57th pick), Reds, 2009
Highest Level Played: Rookie (GCL Reds)
2009 Statistics:
GCL Reds (Rookie): 42 G, 163 AB, 0 HR, 11 RBI, 14 SB, .209/.257/.282/.539
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another close one today
i voted Hamilton. del Rosario, Joseph, and Ondrusek are relievers, and i dont much care for relief prospects. Klinker and Lecure look pretty similar to me, as starters who will likely peak as middle relievers. Mariekson and Rojas are good defenders in the middle infield, but their offensive tools do not impress. i really like Sulbaran, but at this point that’s more from his 3-pitch K of Miguel Tejada in the WBC than anything else he’s done on the field. so for me it was between Fellhauer and Hamilton, and i chose the tools over the high-floor. ask me another day and i might change my mind.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 22, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions
Yeah, I took Hamilton as well...
Although I really like del Rosario for the whole ground ball thing.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I like Klinker's stuff better than Lecure
And Hamilton is a little too unproven for me at this point.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
Agreed
Klinker’s stuff is enough to keep him starting, I think, and Hamilton has no actual success to base anything on at this point, just tools….Until he shows something, in some league, I can’t be too high on him.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
im not sure #14 prospect is being "too high on him"
sure Hamilton hasnt done anything, but it’s hard for me to ignore a kid with those kinda tools. it’s certainly possible, nay probable, that he never amounts to anything. but if he figures it out he could end up the best player on this whole list.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
True, but it's exactly as nyc said in the scouting report
Very high ceiling, very low floor. I’d just like to see him show something that’s working towards that ceiling before I put a lot of stock in him. I love the potential, but I think Klinker’s the better prospect right now. Hamilton could be top 5 on this list next year, but he could just as easily be struggling in the AZL.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
of course you are right
but i dont think im putting “alot of stock in him” by calling him the #14 prospect. i like Klinker, but i have tremendous doubt that he will ever be anything more than a middle reliever/back-o-the-rotation arm. we have a pretty good idea of who he is, and we know who he isnt. Hamilton OTOH, we know very little about. what do know about him is that his physical tools are ample and prodigious (twss).
it’s really a choice between the safe bet and the wild card. and i feel like going with the wild card today.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 22, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
ok, enough semantics, smarty pants
the point is, I feel better about Klinker being a good MLBer than Hamilton until Hamilton does something on the diamond other than run fast and swing a big stick. (insert joke here)
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
that's fine
but your feelings are stupid. dummy.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 22, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Rojas
I could see improved nutrition and physical maturity turning him into a productive bat to go along with his close-to-elite defense.
Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.
-Hilaire Belloc
thats racist
kidding aside, rojas is a guy I’m very interested to see how he does next year. I voted hamilton in this poll however, probably because I value upside more than surethingedness. Might be a couple years before we really know what we have in hamilton, I don’t expect a great season from him next year.
Okay, I only took two years of Spanish, a long time ago
But isn’t Rojas feminine? So wouldn’t there have to be some kind of Rosie Reds take over for that to happen?
I also think that would be cool, though— the jersey thing.
by the finest muffins on Jan 22, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
this is somewhat off-topic
but i didn’t want to derail the book club thread any more, and its kind of related to this thread.
There’s a fascinating discussion going on on Athletics Nation about Desme retiring to become a catholic priest. (Or as one Twitterer said, he was traded to the Cardinals for a prayer to be named later.) It reminds me a little of Milton Loo, but this guy is a way bigger prospect, and God is getting all in the A’s business. Maybe he thought they were run by the other Billy Bean.
Anyway, I thought since we all had such a successful turn at respectfully discussing the philosophy of religions recently you guys might want to check it out. And if this was discussed somewhere else I didn’t see, sorry for the overlap.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
You're excused boobs
but this should really be a Fan Shot
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 22, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Boom! Roasted!
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 22, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, interesting
Here’s the one that’s got me pondering.
When one man, for whatever reason, has the opportunity to lead an extraordinary life, he has no right to keep it to himself.
-Jacques Yves Cousteau
Is that true? Hmmmm.
Two interesting parts:
1) Does each individual have “no right to keep” one’s life to oneself? Do we have an intrinsic responsibility to the community?
2) Is there such a person as an “extraordinary life,” which comes with certain additional responsibilities that us regular folk don’t have?
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
sounds like he has an extraordinary responsibility
to take you out for a nice dinner.
:)
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
lol
need a keycard to get on his floor. he runs an environmental organization. our exec director had a meeting with him a few weeks ago about a potential partnership on a water project we might do with him.
are you gonna let him lay the pipe?
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
by boobs on Jan 23, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i can't stand "lol"
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 24, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
It's a shame you can't get up,
but it’s not really relevant, and why is lol in quotation marks?
IAN! I'm on traain!
by andromache on Jan 24, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's a direct quotation from a 12 year old girl
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles

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