A Visitor's Guide to Cincinnati and GABP, Part 1 - Travel/Lodging
by jch24 on Jan 21, 2010 4:00 PM EST
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PrintHi, hello, & welcome from the Queen City. We've been expecting you. The land of weird chili, even weirder sausage type breakfast food, and the oldest professional baseball team has been here all along and you've finally decided to get a taste of it. Congratulations on finally seeing the light, I'll be your tour guide. Trust in me, I'll show you the way.
Wanna get excited about coming to Cincinnati? Here's the skyline at dusk:
Pretty, no?
Now that the formalities are out of the way, the first order of business upon arriving in our great space is - where do you stay and how do you navigate Cincinnati?
First off, if you’re flying in and have never been here before – Our airport is located in scenic BFE,
Don’t rely on public transit here. Don’t do it. I cannot stress this enough. Rent a car, familiarize yourself with the highways, and drive. The bus system is damned near useless, the cab situation is not much better (except for the airport), and mass transit does not exist. Unless you will be staying downtown and like to walk, rent a car.
Should you want to take the bus, our good friend muffins (we do have the finest) has this to say:
Just go to www.go-metro.com. One easy rule: all buses except 3 (the 31, 41, and 51) stop at Government Square, which is 3 blocks from Great American Ballpark.
There’s even a TANK bus you can take from the airport to downtown, though I’ve never taken it.
Helpful buses for tourists staying downtown:
The Southbank Shuttle (frequent stops around downtown, Covington, and Newport)
Metro Route 1 (hits the zoo, Eden Park, the art museum, museum center, and all downtown attractions)
If you are driving in you already have a car but you still need to know how to get around, so here ya go:
Highways
I-75: Runs North/South and passes downtown on the West. Joined with I-71 through
I-71: Runs North/South to the river before running along the southern edge of downtown and passing it on the East side.
I-275:
I-471: A secondary connector to downtown from the Southeastern portion of the I-275 loop in NKY.
Access to the stadium
Park downtown: Usually runs about $10 or so (except for Opening Day when it's considerably more), plenty of options around the stadium. My favorite spot is the parking garage next to US Bank Arena, on East Pete Rose Way (it's the pie shaped building on the map).
Park in Kentucky & walk/ride over: One of the fun things to do if the weather is nice is to park/pregame at
Lodging
As a local, I don't spend a lot of time in hotels so you'll need to rely on online listings and possibly the advice of my fellow RRs below, should they be willing to share it.There are plenty of fine hotels downtown, but obviously they will come at a higher price than the cheapies on the outskirts of town. If you're coming in via Kentucky you could always stay at The Wildwood Inn in Florence, KY (about 10 miles South of the river) which specializes in themed rooms and is very close to our local independent minor league squad, The Florence Freedom. If you're coming in from the North there's always Great Wolf Lodge which is right next to King's Island amusement park, which is about 15 miles North of the river up I-71. Your best bet coming South on I-75 would probably be Sharonville since there's a "Convention Center" there.
I'm sure I've missed something important so please feel free to comment below if you have a question or would like to make a suggestion, and I'll edit the story to add it.
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You might want to add Dayton Airport is a viable option
only an hour away from Cincinnati, and considerably cheaper. Also for Southwest fans Port Columbus is the best option, as Dayton is too small of a market for Southwest and the Cincinnati market is dominated by what is left of the Delta hub.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
The two times I flew to Cincinnati last summer I flew into Indianapolis
at least $150 cheaper than either CVG or Dayton, and not that much of a longer drive to Cincinnati than Dayton (about 90 min).
Ok Let's go ahead and say
you can fly into Lexington, Louisville, Indianapolis, Dayton, or Columbus. They are all about the same distance from Cincinnati (Columbus is a little further) and they are all (usually) cheaper than flying into CVG.
The reason they're not included.....
If you fly into any of those places, you won’t be taking a cab. You’ll be renting a car and driving in on one of the highways listed just below that section.
Make sense, does it?
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
not in Dayton
you can go straight from the airport to I-75.
Boom roasted!
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
i was making as much sesne as you were
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying you would take a cab from the Dayton airport?
Or did you miss this line?
“I-75: Runs North/South and passes downtown on the West. Joined with I-71 through Northern Kentucky.”
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
I actually misread your post
and thought you meant you couldn’t list dayton airport because you have to take freeways you didn’t list.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
that was a copy paste job
and was not my fault. I hope you end up on a plane I’m flying one day.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
you still hit "post"
there’s a button called preview. it might be in your best interest to use it. don’t blame others for your mistakes.
Actually
The Dayton Airport is on I-70. You have to take that road (or US-40) east a couple of miles before you can get on I-75.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
it really isn't on I-70
it is off of the airport access road. It is pretty much even money for getting their from I-70 or I-75.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
The access road exits on to I-70
It doesn’t touch I-75.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
i can confirm that
gotta take that new overpass off 75 onto 70 to get to the access road.
my man sukr lives a couple miles from the airport exit from the access road.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Flying into Cinci may be expensive
But the view coming into town through the hills of Kentucky on I-75 N is one of the best in the country, in my opinion. The way the hills roll back and reveal the river and the city skyline is just phenomenal.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless you get onone of those little planes and fly into Lunken.
If that’s the case just call me and I’ll come pick you up and take you to your hotel.
no charge…its what RRers do.
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
and maybe in a few years i'll fly you to Lunken
But when I was little and my family took a driving vacation to the south, I always loved the “cut in the hill” when we approached Cincinnati, I felt like I was home again.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
where's Lunken?
of all the flying i’ve done into and out of CVG, i didn’t know there was another one.
Near Riverbend, it's a tiny little place
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
it is on the east side
it had Commercial airline service before CVG was built. CVG was built because Lunken flooded. It can handle larger planes. One time when Bush came to Cincinnati Air Force I (albeit in a 737 because Lunken can’t handle the President’s usual 747) landed at Lunken.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
and about every 5 years
some Cincinnati pol says we need to have commercial air service at Lunken to combat CVG’s high prices. But it is surrounded by houses and due to a number of ordinances Lunken is restricted. There is also the other issue that Cincinnati can’t support two commercial airports.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
they're probably right about not supporting two
if delta weren’t a hub, cvg might be struggling, don’t you think?
I can't imagine it will stay much of a hub
given their strong presence (inherited from Northwest) in a much nicer terminal in Detroit.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
It isn't much of a hub anymore
about every 2-3 months Delta announces more cities and frequencies cut. Delta only has daily mainline flights out of CVG to 18 cities, the rest are all on regional jets. Only one overseas flight which goes to Paris, which is Air Frances hub and a Delta partner. A few years ago Cincinnati had 140 destinations and now it has 70. There used to be over 500 Delta flights a day now they are around 190. Minneapolis, Detroit, Memphis, Cincinnati, and Atlanta are too many hubs in two close of a geographical location.
I am hopeful Southwest will step in and use the vacated terminal one. The shitty thing is Delta controls all of the terminal 3 gates, and unless they give them back CVG can’t let another airlines in. Terminal 2 and 1 are really shitty, and only have 8 gates in each, and terminal 1 has been closed for a while. It will be difficult for CVG to attract new carriers unless they go into the closed First Terminal.
It is really sad over there it is like a misconceived mall.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
That must be the new terminal
The terminal I flew into in Detroit a couple years ago looked like Afghanistan. Bombed out and depleted.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
the Northwest (now Delta) terminal is really really nice
has over 100 gates. There is a crazy psychedelic tunnel that connects them. Were you flying Northwest when you flew to DTW?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know how long ago that was
but both of the terminals now are decent. The Delta one is quite nice, complete with Detroit’s best transit—a rather inexplicable train inside the terminal. The other one isn’t as great, but it’s a fine terminal.
I think they closed down the other terminal(s) fairly recently.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Maybe
Do they still have the pickup area that’s maybe 200 yards long, and everyone tries to cram their car in all at once in some nightmarish scenario? Seriously, the Detroit airport was the worst one I’d ever been in. This would have been…. 2006? I think that’s right.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, yeah, I think all of the terminal pickup areas
will always be like that at Detroit.
I’ve just been flying in and out of there a lot, and it feels like a new terminal. Last week was the first time I had taken Delta; before I was on USAir all the time.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
the best thing to do in Detroit airport is park.
It is confusing if you’re driving in and aren’t sure if you want the McNamara or North terminal.
IAN! I'm on traain!
i flew into detroit from amsterdam in 2007
after getting through customs and walking back into america, what was the first thing i saw? a giant photo of comerica park. it was awesome. baseball – that’s what ever visitor to america should see when they first come in.
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great point nukkah
that view coming down the hill never ceases to hit me.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Agreed
I was in Nashville when that inland hurricane hit in 2008. We drove home later that night. The power was out everywhere from Louisville on, but the lights were still on in downtown Cincinnati. It was a sight to see.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Somewhere I have a pic from the night it hit, all the lights were out
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
I'll dig it up tonight and post it
I had to work on rebuilding a radio station transmitter site that night and came home around 11:00 or so. It’s a crappy pic taken with my phone while driving down the hill, but you’ll get the idea. It was weird as hell to see.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
I was told to put them on the front page, so hush woman
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
I can't wait to see you try and defend Beer Sellar.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 21, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
There's beer there, what's to defend?
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
Oh, and they have kick ass music.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
But, Jimmy Buffett sucks co...
/poison dart’d
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the beer sellar sucks
in fact, it sucks so much, that jch left it to go to Jefferson Hall. And Jefferson Hall really really sucks!
Not as bad as Gameworks on a Saturday
After following Jeremy there from the Machine Room
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 21, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And oh snap, justin's picture was too big so I deleted it
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 21, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
dick
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Your picture was more than 4 times the established limit
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 21, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
we have a limit?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
And you sir, exceeded the legal limit.
Up against the car please.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
can i see your badge?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm marking you down for solicitation.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
lookout officer Crolfer!
he’s got a knife! taze him!!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 21, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Watch out for thestrip tasers
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
You posted a picture of a dick that was so large it got deleted?
by Brian B on Jan 21, 2010 8:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yep
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
You Rang?
You notice I don’t need no filter on my cigs.
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bad lord... very very bad...
Sonny my pitched my wild
by GrooveLeg on Jan 21, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and Cincinnati totally has a subway
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
I took a tour of the subway a few years ago
Offered through the Museum Center. It was very cool. I’d highly recommend it for anyone interested in Cincinnati history or public transit (or both, like me!)
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
do they really have a subway?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There are tunnels
But there’s never been any trains. They were building a subway system in the early 20th century when the city ran out of money. The project’s never been finished, but the tunnels are in practically perfect condition.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
that sounds really cool
I will have to check it out if I’m ever in Cincinnati.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There's also an Underground Railroad
and Freedom Museum.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
all well and good
But not as cool as a subway that’s never been used!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
it is really hard to get a tour down there though
they aren’t daily, weekly, monthly, or even seasonally. They do one or two random tours every year. Apparently it used to be fairly easy to get down into the tunnels, but the city realized a number of people were taking “self guided” tours, and due to safety concerns the city sealed off the tunnel so it is pretty much impossible for somebody without a key or bulldozing equipment to get down there.
They started the project in the early 20th century, and WWI stalled it and the depression killed it From time to time there is talk of using the subways tunnels as part of a new mass transit system, but that will happen at the same time that Lunken Airport receives scheduled commercial airline service.
The city is reaching a stage of critical mass as the tunnels are reaching an age where they are going to become structurally unsound since no maintenance has been down on the tunnels to reinforce the concrete. So they will probably be filled in the next 10-20 years as they serve no purpose and will prevent a safety hazard.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
there's actually
a water main line that runs down there now. they’d have to redirect that to either use the tunnels for transit or to fill it in.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
was my memory correct about the structural issues surrounding the tunnel?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just an unemployed artist and professional English major
…so I wouldn’t recognize engineering issues unless a piece of concrete fell on my head. Everything looked fine, though (except some standing water and a little graffiti) and they didn’t mention any structural problems on the tour. We were right under Central Parkway, so I’ve got to think it would be a pretty huge deal if the thing was about to cave in.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
did they make you wear hard hats?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
wow, I honestly can't remember
Maybe a chunk of concrete DID fall on my head. I don’t think they did, though.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
If they didn't
I would say they are structurally sound.
Either that, or there are no lawyers in Ohio. ;-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I'm friends with the daughter of one of the top personal injury lawyers in Dayton
(Best I can do)
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
haha
i went to the last reds-cubs game at wrigley last year. it was a giant piece of crap. i recognize the historical significance of the building, but man. they had wire mesh along the underside of all the overhangs to keep the “larger” pieces of cement that fall from hurting you.
not to mention that in order to pee, you have to miss a half inning if you’re seats are in the upper deck because you have to go all the way down to the main level to get to the trough.
do you know anything about tours at the present?
i looked through the Cincinnati Museum center website and searched the word “subway” and found nothing.
Cincinnati history is pretty fun, I wrote my senior research paper of George Cox.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Who is George Cox?
There was a pretty comprehensive article online in the last 8 or 9 months, perhaps by the enquirer, detailing tour info. Try googling or searching cincinnati.com.
by Brian B on Jan 21, 2010 8:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I googled it
and found tour dates from older tours.
Cox was Cincinnati’s political boss at the turn of the 19th-20th century.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
sorry
I don’t know anything. I heard about my tour at the last minute from a co-worker and signed up. That was probably two years ago now.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
sure do, just no cars
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
by jch24 on Jan 21, 2010 5:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
first trip to GABP
Looks like I’ll be making my first trip to GABP this summer — the Thursday game in June against the Dodgers before the Miami reunions — my wife and most of her family are alums.
Last time I saw the Reds at home was in 1989, in old astroturfed Riverfront. Can’t wait to see the new park, and they better pound the Dodgers. :)
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
take the subway
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Or do you mean "eat at Subway"?
You might bump into Joey Votto and Brandon Phillips
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Man, I could go for a footlong meatball sub with provolone cheese
And a Cherry Coke.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, as someone who grew up real near there,
don’t stay in Sharonville. If you want to stay that far north, just go a bit further (exit 19 on I-75) and stay in West Chester. There are a whole slew of small chain hotels that are new and pretty nice there.
I’ll only say this once, so listen up….Sharonville sucks hard.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
they're about to redo their "Convention Center" so that should polish things up a bit.
eh… probably not.
Sonny my pitched my wild
Paging Ash, paging Ash
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sharonville does suck
too many chains
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
oh, the bus system isn't useless
I agree that most tourists would want to avoid relying on buses in any city, but Cincinnati’s system is no harder to navigate than anywhere else’s. If someone’s feeling adventurous and is used to riding the bus in their home city, it’s not that hard to figure the bus out here. Just go to www.go-metro.com. One easy rule: all buses except 3 (the 31, 41, and 51) stop at Government Square, which is 3 blocks from Great American Ballpark.
There’s even a TANK bus you can take from the airport to downtown, though I’ve never taken it.
Helpful buses for tourists staying downtown:
The Southbank Shuttle (frequent stops around downtown, Covington, and Newport)
Metro Route 1 (hits the zoo, Eden Park, the art museum, museum center, and all downtown atractions)
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 4:55 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
The 33 and 10 were my life lines in grade/middle school. I could take
those two from the West Side to anywhere worth going to downtown.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
this is very useful
I like public transportation.
Do they take cash, or do you need some kind of token or card?
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When I was growing up it was 50 cents in the summer
I have no clue what it is now — or if they even take cash.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Prices have gone up kind of significantly
Even since 2002 (back then it was $1). Within zone 1, which is all of the city, it’s $1.75 a ride. Still not terrible, but not as much of a steal as it used to be. And they take cash. I think they still have tokens, too, but really just for handing out at homeless shelters and after-school programs and the like (as far as I can tell.) Those are Metro numbers— TANK and the Southbank Shuttle are different. The SS was only a dollar last time I rode it (2 years ago.)
I do wish they’d have some kind of one-day or weekend pass kind of thing, which would be helpful for visitors.
Any other questions? :) I’m a bit of a public transportation evangelist, so I’m happy to share info.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Where there is a will there is a way.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I just realized that was a question for me. Oops.
ZipCar’s not in Cincinnati (but it’s in Columbus, so maybe it’ll be contagious.) I don’t think there’s anything else like it here, which is too bad. It’s a good idea.
So in the absence of an actual program, you could just go with Justin’s idea. I’m sure only good will come of that.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I left Cincy for college in '02
and hadn’t been on the bus for roughly three years at that point. Damn, shit has changed. Looks like I got out at the perfect time.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
i'd still recommend renting a car
and i hate driving in cities. If you wish to leave the city at all the bus doesn’t help. The bus may run all over downtown and to some outlying neighborhoods, but I don’t think it is real useful if you wish to leave the city.
I love public transportation I ride the bus and the “L” all over Chicago, but Cincinnati’s mass transit is like most 2nd tier cities mass transit, lacking. I hope they upgrade the bus service and build rail service, as I think as fuel prices continue to rise again, mass transit will be a key part to cities developments. Right now Cincinnati is home to 10 (I think) Fortune 500 companies, they will probably want to develop better mass transit so those companies can continue to do business in the city.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I would probably have my own car
Doesn’t mean I want to drive it around a strange city, though.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I agree
The lack of really good transit here is one of the main reasons I’m working on moving back to DC. Don’t get me started on how big a pain transferring buses is, and how the system is set up to require transfers to move between neighboring neighborhoods. It’s a mess. But if you’re based in downtown, it can be very useful. I think the advice in the main post is good for most casual visitors. I just wanted to share bus info for those who might want it, because it is an option. If I was visiting from out of town, I’d want that info.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats!
You’ll be getting here just in time for higher rates and service cuts!
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, just my luck!
But still leaps and bounds ahead of Cincinnati.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's funny
Everyone here bitches about all the faults of the Metro. Everyone who visits from out of town though seemingly has nothing but positive things to say about it. Including all the Teabaggers who used it for their Sept. 12th rally — to protest government spending. Guess who paid for that Metro, kids?
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Some truly impressive escalators on the Red Line too
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Is that the Wheaton Metro stop?
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
The summer I lived in DC I loved the Metro
I think it’s one of the best run public transportion programs in the country.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
service cuts? i waited 15 minutes to get on a packed train this evening. how can they cut any more?
and the escalators are ALWAYS broken. a couple of days ago they had people walking up and down one stopped escalator at van ness because they other two were broken. now, i’m a walker, but many are not, and people took ten years to walk up, but you couldn’t pass because people were walking down.
of course, i’m going to be longing for public transit in four days, so i shouldn’t complain. but incompetence is so irritating and that’s all metro’s problems are. idiots drive the trains, idiots wreck the trains, idiots manage the trains, idiots run the city office that budgets for the trains…
idiots drive the train?
Isn’t it more the city doesn’t have enough money to spend on the train, so it is stretched to the limit. I mean that is how i perceive the CTA. I’m sure there is some mismanagement, but you can’t spend money you don’t have. Blame Ronald Reagan.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
The VA and MD state governments don't want to fund Metro either, even though it services their communities
Especially in Virginia, no one in Richmond or the rest of the state wants to devote money to one of the worst areas of traffic congestion in the country because it’s not “real Virginia.” The DC area is projected to double in size in the next ten years, and the highways are already intractable most of the time. Mass transit is going to be a big part of dealing with the growth, but no one wants to fund it.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
yikes, you just did half the work jch did.
I like the idea of “taking the TANK into town”, there’s something very Pierce Brosnan about that
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jan 21, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
where does Goldeneye rank on greatest video games?
I’d put it in the top 5, definitely.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jan 21, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree
It was amazing. I have a friend that still boasts of how he won a campuswide Goldeneye tournament. We used to play it in our dorm room for shots. Was there anything more fun than loading up a spawn point with proximity mines?
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
ugh, proxy mines
too many people would hang out in that one hallway in Stacks(?) with a proxy mine on each door and an AR-33. That was always frustrating.
Grenade launchers, though, were a blast. And the “Train” single-player level is just ridiculous. Especially if you can grab the RCP-90
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jan 21, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I could never beat the time limit in 00 Agent mode
It was like 1:30. C’mon!
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
ahem
the best video game ever would beg to differ.
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Jan 21, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
This is inaccurate
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to link to the bus service, but as I stated above I don't think it's particularly useful
Not to mention that some of the dining and entertainment spots in the upcoming installments might not lend themselves to bus travel.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
As a regular bus rider,
I can’t decide if I should be offended, or if I should pretend I’m the one who’s too hot for the bus.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
So wait, if someone doesn't like riding the bus, then they're elitist?
Personally, given the choice, I’d rather drive than ride the bus too.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
How dare you hate crappy transit!
Just because we make poor people settle for a dysfunctional, underfunded system, so should you!
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Hey, look at that big green rectangle!!!!
I’m probably way too excited about my first “go green” moment at Red Reporter. Sorry.
by the finest muffins on Jan 22, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
No, they never stop being fun
Congrats!
by Brendanukkah on Jan 22, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
that was an abberration
threads like that don’t come along often, ya know.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Yeah,
But none of them were mine. Re-commencing my unreasonable celebration NOW.
by the finest muffins on Jan 22, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd and added to the story
Sorry it took so long, I’ve been having some technical difficulties.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
a girl never likes to here that
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 22, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
are you shitting me?
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 22, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Justin
apparently still has a lot to learn about women. ;-)
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dude's getting married
so now he doesnt have to :)
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 22, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
He’ll be instructed every step of the way. He’ll find himself wondering how he ever thought to draw breath before.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 22, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
33 years and the FMM tells me I’m about ready to go out on my own a little, just a little at a time.
The training was hard but it was worth it.
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
maybe she'll teach him how to spell!
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by BubbaFan on Jan 22, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
she tries
she reads my papers for me.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 23, 2010 3:10 AM EST up reply actions
she reads your papers
and has stuck around? Maybe you and jch should go to Jared. Its time for you to learn the Tennessee Move.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
i was going for an ED joke
but it can be an ejaculation joke too.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 23, 2010 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
Uh-hem,
I’m sure I’ve missed something important
If you are a fan of crudely drawn dicks, you MUST take the bridge across the river.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 5:05 PM EST reply actions
Not sure, but I bet the Cock Mafia puts them back up there after every
powerwashing
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I noticed how you included the words "Travel" and "Lodging" in the headline
But made no mention of the “Travelodge”. What about our visitors from South Milwaukee? They paid for their hotel room!
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
I thought this exact same thing.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 21, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Baseball season
coincides with Orange Barrel season everywhere. The asphalt plants generally open in April and close in November, kinda like baseball.
I think this is a great idea, BTW. So many people ask about this stuff, it would be good to have a series of articles to point them to. You should keyword them.
Flying is such a PITA these days, I’d rather drive. I am still hoping to do this road trip one day (only with baseball in the evenings).
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Yeah, agreed
I rec’d this for you, Jerms.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
THE HAPPY COW ?
I used have picture of that but slyde told me not to post it again or else!
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
For younger males / older women out there,
the Drawbrige Inn in NKY is reputed to be a den or cougars.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
edit: a den of below average looking cougars
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
P.S. I surmise the Inn's rooms are equipped with light switches.
Place them in the ‘off’ position and your problem’s solved.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
I can neither confirm nor deny that I drunkenly scrawled my name on a hallway wall at the Drawbridge with pool cue chalk after a bit too much to drink at an office xmas party
I came to the next morning in the pool. Deep end. Very unnerving.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
Which
one?
And if it was the inside — was it drained?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 22, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
It was the inside pool, and no it was not
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
by jch24 on Jan 22, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I was hoping for.
That is fantastic.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 22, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot to mention Cincinnati's Amtrak service!!!
Arrive at 4AM leave at 1AM, every other day, service to every where that is between or connects to Chicago and Washington DC.
Yeah that is useful.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
It has never arrived anywhere close to its scheduled 'on time' arrival.
But hey…if you rent a car then you (Unkown visitor) can take the short drive south to the Creation Museum. Now is a good time to go or at least at the beginning of the Red’s season…who knows by mid summer you may have to Prove that you are a Card Carrying American to gain entrance.
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
the problem is most of Amtrak's midwest track is owned by freight lines
so Amtrak is a low priority and often gets shunted off onto sidings for the prioritized freight trains . The schedule is more of a dream than reality. Which is why I can’t use it to go home, because I can’t really say "well we are supposed to arrive at 3:45AM but it might be as late at 5AM.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All of Amtrak's midwest track is owned by freight lines
In fact, almost all of the tracks they use except for the Northeast corridor lines are owned by freight railroads. It’s been that way since Amtrak was first created with the castoff passenger lines from the railroads, but almost none of the actual assets.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I though amtrak owned most of the track in the northeast
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Feds took over many bankrupt northeast RRs in the '60s or '70s
Conrail was created out of that mess. Amtrak was either given tracks outright or has the right-of-way.
Right, but outside of the now-obsolete NE Corridor
they control just about nothing.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Bankrupt Northeast RRs?
I knew nycredsfan was in trouble, but geez.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
It's funny to hear about how the laws and government in this country.
catered to the railroad industry during the gilded age.
IAN! I'm on traain!
It's a loooong journey
But a pleasant one, in my experience— comfortable seats, plenty of leg room, beautiful views of WV, interesting people, and no transfers. The food’s not great, but you can bring your own. Definitely beats Greyhound, which I’ve also taken for 13 hours. I do NOT recommend that unless you’re as cheap I am.
by the finest muffins on Jan 21, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
as long as you know what you're getting into
trains are fun. If you expect delays, bring a book or two, and can sleep sitting down, you’re fine. The folks who complain are either expecting much more speed then is reasonable, or were hit with a delaybomb of epic porportions (one guy I was talking to was stuck in South Dakota on a 27 hour delay).
Also, I’ve met the best assortment of cool folks in train station bars. Most people are either surly old men with stories or underemployed younger folks. So it’s basically Red Reporter.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jan 21, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for the second paragraph.
I agree with the first one, too, but I’m just sayin’.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
my college roommate
took Amtrak to Florida with her softball team for spring training. They got stuck overnight somewhere in the south, because the train hit and killed someone. Turns out, a woman decided to kill herself by stepping in front of the train. It really freaked my roommate out.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There was a good article awhile back about the conductors of the trains that hit people
How a lot of them have severe trouble coping with the fact that they killed someone. It may be a suicide, but they are the agents of that person’s death. One guy had been the driver for something like five different deaths. Lemme see if I can unearth that…
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Here's one from England
He repeats what was said in the other article I read, that the train drivers are powerless to stop it from happening. They can’t swerve, and there’s no time to break. In the other article, one of the drivers talked about how sometimes the victim will look right at the driver before they’re hit. It’s some heavy stuff.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
yikes
I had no idea that many people were killed by trains.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Again, that was in England where trains are more commonplace (which would seem to take the thrill out of spotting one)
I’m not sure if the death-by-train total is as high in the USA, but it’s still less rare than it should be.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
did you know 7 ppl killed themselves this summer by jumping in front of metro trains?
that doesn’t count the workers they accidentally hit.
I think that was probably the basis for the article I read
It also doesn’t count the number of people killed when one Red Line train rear ends another.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
at least it wasn't
the Ashtabula train wreck.
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Trains may be more commonplace
But we’re a much larger country.
Turns out, hundreds of people are killed by trains in the US every year. They don’t seem to keep statistics, but it’s estimated that 500 a year die at crossings, and about 500 a year die in “trespassing” incidents. (Often people trying to hitchhike on the trains.)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
All the happy families
are sitting here in Queens, eating refried beans?
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I've been on those fucking trains too many times
The seaats are hard as concrete and no matter how you adjust them they’re never even close to comy. And don’t ever try the sleeper car..like sleeping in a rolling mausoleum.
Bastards have the nerve to call this ‘the fast track’…
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
but i need transportation between CHicago that doens't take 12 hours door to door each way
I can buy a round trip train ticket for $82 or a round trip ticket from O’hare to CVG the week of for $95.
Next year if I’m writing my thesis on an Ohio topic and have more time and don’t have classes to worry about I may use the train simply because I can do work on the train as much as anywhere else. I would like to take the train home at least once for the experience. I’ve taken trains in China and Europe, I would like to take one in America.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I want to take one of those luxury train vacations
I was watching a Travel Channel show about it. The one that goes to Glacier National Park looks really cool. (I want to see that while there are still some glaciers left.)
I looked for info online, and it appears all the trains they highlighted on the show have gone bankrupt. The economy has been pretty brutal for travel.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
The NYC to Montreal train has quite a nice view
if you’re in no rush.
Relatedly, my father took the train across Canada from Vancouver to I think Calgary and loved it.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I've gone from NYC to Albany
but not as far as Montreal.
I might do that this fall. My parents want me to meet them in Quebec. I could fly, drive, or take the train. I was thinking of driving part way and taking the train part way. Flying might actually be cheaper, but it’s such a hassle these days, I usually try to avoid it if possible.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Flying is surprisingly expensive
into Canada—it consistently runs $150-$200 more than flying to, say, Burlington, VT, 1.5 hours from Montreal.
And yeah, customs at the border is a huge pain—totally only worth it if you’re not in a rush.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
what happened
to the Montreal Expos’ ballpark? Is it still there?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
You mean Olympic Stadium?
Yep, it’s finally paid off! You can take the metro out to it and walk around, swim in the Olympic pool, etc.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
There are definitely much better views in Montreal
for free.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
they have an incline?
Like Pittsburgh?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Nah, they have
a funicular to the observation tower on Stade Olympique.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
what else is there to do in Montreal?
Besides visit William Shatner’s high school, I mean.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Strip clubs, strip clubs, strip clubs!
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
somehow
I don’t think that would appeal to my parents.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Your dad, maybe
They’re supposed to be very good strip clubs.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
That's what the male nurse I had said
when I was in the hospital after an appendectomy…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Possession is actually legal in BC
but marijuana is everywhere in Montreal, too, and I’m pretty sure that possession of a small amount is only a small fine if they actually do bother to ticket you.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Ah, I underestimated the fine a bit.
According to my googling, the penalty for possession of 15 grams or less of marijuana would be a ticket with a fine of $150.
Whenever I’m in Montreal in the summer, I smell people smoking pot on the streets pretty frequently, so no, they don’t enforce this too stringently.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Wow it sounds just like Stones Lanes in Norwood
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
Bitch set me up!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
misogynist, don't I know
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
There's tons to do...
Tons of great food, interesting neighborhoods, pretty good transit…
And then you have to take the metro out to get an orange julep from a big orange.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
rather have an Orange Julius
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
orange juice
The first thing I think of when I think “Montreal”!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
It's not just orange juice...
It’s orange juice plus sugar and cream! Mmmmm.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I think so
It hosted a CONCACAF Champion’s League soccer game there last year. 55,000 people in attendance to see a team that is a level below MLS.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why it's amazing that Montreal doesn't have
a higher level team.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
It seemed like they surely would
MLS was asking for a $40 million franchise fee, and Montreal didn’t cough up the cash. The expansion teams went to Portland and Vancouver instead. Those two teams will bring the MLS total up to 18, and they’ve stated that they want to have 20. Montreal will likely be one of the next two.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Whatsisname Dalembert from the 76ers was there at the draft
Nobody knew who he was. He came by the DC United fans section, signed some autographs, and I gave him a fistbump. He’d been juggling a soccer ball, and I told him he was pretty good. He said that was nothing, and that he was going to play in Steve Nash’s (part owner of the new Vancouver MLS franchise) charity soccer game.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I like that he made time for the MLS draft first
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe if I'd been in Haiti helping out too...
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
he does have long arms...
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Yeah, still.
They may at some point manage to move customs into the Montreal train station, which would easily knock an hour off the trip.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
but then couldnt you just jump off the train?
They try to do border control near border crossings for a reason. If the train breaks down between Montreal and the border, you have ~100 undocumenteds sitting around.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
It would be like they already do for Canadian flights to the US...
US customs before you get on the train in Montreal. They would hopefully do the same on the way back, but that would be slightly more complicated.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
They've got some luxury train vacation packages out of Cincinnati too
I was thinking of getting one for my dad, because he’s a big train enthusiast, but it was super expensive.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
There's a really neat fall train
that takes an observation car from NC up through the foliage to Charlottesville. It’s a bit pricey for me, but it sounds like a nice way to spend a day…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
And then you could burn Charlottesville to the ground for unleashing Dave Matthews on us
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you've never been
it’s a really nice town to walk around.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I drove through it once or twice
I don’t think I was in the right part, though. Seemed like a lot of strip malls. Nice-ish strip malls, but certainly nothing that looked walkable, let alone pleasant to walk around.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Go downtown.
Or take the train from DC. The train station is between the university and the downtown mall. It’s one of the few pedestrian malls that was actually successful, and the stuff around the university is pretty nice too.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
And then burn it!
Man, where’s crolfer when you need him?
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Pssh- not until tomorrow night. It's a school night y'know.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Brilliant!
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
agreed
I think the southwest still has some…I’d love to spend a couple weeks to go out to LA one day.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Megafuckingbus dude
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
i feel like the train would be more conducive to working
plus it seems relaxing.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 22, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Right...sitting an uncomfortable seat with poor lighting and no stewardess...
Did I ever tell you about the time when I was living in Madison Wisconsin that I set my alarm for 5:30am (after hitting the hay around 2am) waking up dropping two hits of acid and going back to sleep…man what a rush it was to wake up that day…l went out for walk around 7:00am and was followed for two blocks by a police car…paranoid anyone…anyway……………………fucking trains are OK if you drink enough bourbon and cokes but then you don’t get much work done.
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
uh-huh
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 22, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
So if I can't find a job in badassistan this summer
I think I’ll be applying in Cincinnati. Hopefully I’ll be able to use this to hang aroudn with you jerks for a few months.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
most of the jerks work at Tom Gill Chevrolet, fyi
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
BTW
From where was that photo of the city at night taken?
And can you hang out at night there with camera gear without being mugged?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
It looks like it was taken from the parking lot/bank area in front of B&B Riverboats, in Newport
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
Possibly from the boat itself, actually
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
Since it's in Newport, you really only have to worry about Pops
Which is sort of like saying, “Since it’s in the Cave of Caer Bannagh, you only have to worry about the bunny.”
by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
it's got long, sharp, pointy teeth.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
what's he do?
Nibble your bum?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Brendan and I have this code, you see.
We use these abbreviations when we talk about our plans for the day to save time. One day we were out at a park, by a beautiful lake, sitting on a bench, holding hands as we used our code. He said “E.F.” I said “F.F.” He, a little louder, “E.F.” No, said I, increasing my intensity, “F.F.” We went on like this for a bit: “E.F.”….“No, c’mon F.F.” and back and forth.
Within a few minutes, a stranger walked up and asked, “Sorry, but I couldn’t help but overhear your conversation; what are you two arguing about with those letters?”
I looked at the man plainly and said, “Well, Brendan here wants to eat first.”
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 22, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, that's a rec.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 22, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
night photography from a boat?
I dunno. I would think you’d need something more stable than that.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
could be from that little park
bordering the Licking River
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
This is correct, I believe.
It is at / underneath the Taylor-Southgate brige (accessible from the GABP concourse). After a game, there’s usually sufficient traffic there to be considered safe, but otherwise you’ll want some company. It is a parking area on the river-side of a rather large levee, which makes it quite isolated.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
wait til they play the Bearcats this weekend!
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Yes, but why?!?
Oh wait, I did that when I came from Bloomington.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
ooooops
the Peach lives off 74 also!
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
i could arrange an Ewok meet
you game?
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Where's that darned delete button again?
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
i kid because i care...
the Peach is wicked smart. love to see her toe up vs. Ash in a trivia contest.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
I do
best way to get to Cincinnati from the west side of Hamilton.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I love I-74
such a hassle free way to get into Cincinnati, and it isn’t filled with the speed traps I-75 has.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 21, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
As someone who has been pulled over twice going into Cincinnati on I-74
I disagree
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
I didn't get pulled over when I was going 115 mph
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
I don't
I currently have no idea how much the ticket is for (it isn’t printed anywhere on the ticket, and the cop didn’t write it down), so I’m not sure if I should be pissed off or relieved.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 22, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
does it say what the violation was?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
where did he get you?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 22, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Where you strip searched?
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
you should be humbled
and repentive.
sounds like its time for Traffic School, eh?
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
You obviously don't drive it at rush hour
Not to mention the traffic lights on the the interstate on ramps. Dumbest shit I’ve ever seen, I curse it every morning I have to go that way.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
Those stoplights are pretty standard around here
I don’t understand them.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 22, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
The explanation here was that it will stagger the incoming traffic to the interstate a little, reducing the backup from merging
I’ve noticed absolutely no difference, so money well spent I say.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
leave at 3am
74 is empty at that hour. i always make good time.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
You left out the Creation Museum
Athiest’d
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Did too - earlier in the post
It has never arrived anywhere close to its scheduled ‘on time’ arrival.
But hey…if you rent a car then you (Unkown visitor) can take the short drive south to the Creation Museum. Now is a good time to go or at least at the beginning of the Red’s season…who knows by mid summer you may have to Prove that you are a Card Carrying American to gain entrance.
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
no, you'll just have to show your ID tattoo
or they’ll scan your head to read the chip info put in you when you got your “flu shot.”
I didn't know the Creation Museum was a hotel
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
I didn't know you could take 3 steps over the base line to inbound a ball either....
….UL got screwed
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
the point nobody made during the game or on highlights.
Of course UL got screwed because the guy walked over the baseline. The ref just gave the ball back to him to let him inbound the ball. But it got worse!
When he tried to throw the ball in bounds, it got knocked by a louisville player back out of bounds. So for a 3rd time, Seton Hall had to inbound the ball. This is the most unbelievable part of the whole situation. On the 3rd attempt, the SH player Ran the baseline! He took two steps and then successfully threw the ball in. It clearly should have been called a walk because the inbound play was no longer after a made basket. I really thought Pitino should’ve gone all Mike Davis on those referees.
I can't believe that a major conference officiating crew could F up that bad
It wasn’t like it happend in a split second or the ref’s view was obstructed……he stood and watched the guy the whole time!
Must be Sypher’s cousin or something….
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
I wondered about that too
Bottom line though – No way Louisville shouldn’t beat SH by 10 points. Never should have been a factor.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
Seton Hall is better than they usually are
But I’ll admit they did get screwed this time
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
Mike Davis
makes me laugh every time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKXHiUibuKs&feature=related
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Unrelatedly...
How many times did Robin Williams just flip the bird on the Tonight Show?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
i stopped counting after 12
im DVR’ing the final show tonight.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 22, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that was about where I stopped counting, too...
I don’t usually watch late night TV (or really much TV at all), but I’m looking forward to the last one tonight.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Yeah, there's been no build up
for it at all. Not at all.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 22, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I enjoyed that
way, way more than I thought I would on first blush.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 22, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
So.......I'm having some trouble getting the second installment posted
Looks like it’s gonna have to wait until tonight sometime. Talk amongst yourselves about something off topic.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
I didn't send you flowers, they must be from someone else.
"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2
Stay Downtown....
…don’t stay in West Chester. Why rent a car, and what is there to do in West Chester? Spend the weekend going to Home Depot? Ikea? Olive Garden?
Look, the posts above are correct about our city’s public transportation. It’s very poor. But if you fly into CVG, take a cab for $20 or the bus shuttle to Downtown for $1.75. Once you get here, you don’t need transportation. Cincinnati in the summer is a wonderful place to visit and a very walkable city. From any hotel, you are in walking distance to GABP, Fountain Square, dining and bars. Every Friday night on the Square is IndieFriday and the concerts are free. Should you want to go to Newport for say Hofbrauhaus or Southgate House, take the shuttle for $1.25 which runs every 20 minutes. Should you want to go to Mt. Adams, take a $5 cab ride. Contrary to what the naysayers say, Downtown is a safe and fun place to visit.
I have many ballpark trips with friends over the years and have hit every Midwestern city with an MLB team. Other than Chicago (which is not a fair comparison), a weekend in Downtown Cincinnati and GABP can be just as much fun – if not more so – than CLE, DET, STL, KC, MIL, PIT.
by Mr. B on Jan 23, 2010 10:33 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I'm probably biased
I grew up in the middle of nowhere and cabs/bus/etc didn’t exist. I utilize cabs occasionally now, but wouldn’t even consider the bus. The last time I rode a shuttle was at the ’05 Indy 500 because I parked at the RCA dome for $20 and the ride was free.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
transportation snob
there’s nothing wrong with the bus system here if you know how to use it. lots of professionals use the Park N Ride option during the work week. i used it for a few years myself albeit mostly so i could sleep, and drool, and extra half hour on the way to work.
maybe you should recommend hailing a cop car! again, not sure you’re the most efficient city transportation dude…
another option is to park at Willie’s in Covington, have a few pregame drinks there (much cheaper than GABP) and ride the Willie’s GABP bus to and fro.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Park N Ride is not the same thing....
as being here for three days with no work schedule.
I looked for the Willie’s bus info but didn’t see it, only the Southbank shuttle info. Do they still run the buss for Reds games?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Racist
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 23, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
there is a theory that white people view busses as transportation for blacks
so they avoid bus transportation but are willing to ride in street cars and anything else on a rail.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 23, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
jokes are always funnier when you have to explain them...
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 23, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
which makes Downtown a viable option for you to stay for a weekend
If you drive to Cincinnati to stay for a weekend, park your car one time and forget about it until you leave. Why fight traffic and Reds game day parking? Just walk out of your hotel, and four blocks later you are in your seat at GABP.
I feel ya
And that’s always an option…..just not my personality.
On vacation, I spend very little time in the hotel room so I’ve never understood spending $120/night on one. I’d rather stay on the outskirts for $80/night and spend the difference on a car and food/amusement/etc.
Also, many of the area’s best attractions aren’t downtown.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I guess it just depends on your cup of tea really.
My preference when visiting other cities is to take in the city as opposed to the region. I always try to make transportation as simple as possible, as in driving as little as possible or not at all. Recent trips to Tampa and New Orleans for UC football games were accomplished with no rental car and the trips were great. I would also point out that neither TB or NO public transportation is anything to write home about, and downtown Tampa has nothing on downtown Cincinnati.
In also depends on how you want to spend your time in Cincinnati. If you are going to hit, say Kings Island during the day before a Reds night game, then maybe you don’t stay in Downtown. But if you preference is to take in the nightlife, whether that be Jeff Ruby’s or simply hitting the bars, then I would recommend Downtown to anyone and everyone.
You can actually take the bus to Kings Island... should you be inclined
routes 71 and 72 drop you off in their parking lot. It costs something like $3.50 each way, though, because Butler County stopped subsidizing the bus (or something like that.)
by the finest muffins on Jan 23, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
God, how long would that ride be from downtown?
Or is there an “express line”?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
It's an express
A few stops in downtown, a few in Mason. It’s a long ride, but it’s not actually much longer than driving, because the bus can drive on the shoulder.
by the finest muffins on Jan 23, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not to be on topic or anything
But I howled with laughter at the reference to the Wildwood Inn. Not sure if any of you have actually stayed in it before, but it is far and away the biggest dump in which I have ever had the misfortune to stay.
I could regale you with stories, but suffice it to say that if there are multiple signs posted in the room stating that if you wanted to change rooms, you MUST make the request within 30 minutes of getting the key…it might not be the optimal experience. An absolute joke.
I would also not recommend the Cincinnatian hotel, though not as loudly. The rooms there are pretty small…something left over from being a really old hotel. Ours was also oddly shaped, if memory serves…but take that one with a grain of salt. They also had an additional issue that I don’t remember, but the front desk staff was empowered to take care of it on the spot, so kudos to them for that.
On the plus side, if you were looking for a good hotel downtown to park it for a while, the Embassy Suites Covington is an awesome place to stay. The view is great, the rooms are comfy, meals and manager’s reception are nice. A bonus is that you are located right next to B&B, so you could take a river cruise if the mood strikes you…and you get to walk across the Roebling Suspension Bridge, which is especially good if you don’t have a fear of metal bridge decking you can see through (unllike me).
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
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