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Red Reposter - if you like Hairstons, check out the Padres

FanGraphs: Johnny Cueto’s Sophomore Season
Cueto didn't quite make the strides I wanted to see last year, but I think the winter ball and WBC innings definitely took its toll after his hot start. The author here points out that Cueto lost quite a bit of horizontal break on his slider and continues to shy away from his changeup. What the article doesn't mention is Cueto's increased groundball rate. Cueto seemed to consciously pitch to contact more last year. With a good infield defense hopefully behind him all year in 2010, that is a wise strategy.

Reds Interested In Ben Sheets: MLBTradeRumors.com
Speaking of power pitchers, the Reds are reportedly one of several teams that will see Ben Sheets throw this week, as early as Tuesday.  Sheets didn't pitch at all in 2009 after elbow surgery a year ago.   After Aroldis, I'm not sure what to expect from us.

Reds agree to terms with Jared Burton
The Reds avoided arbitration with Jared Burton by signing him to a one-year deal for $810K.  With guys like Rhodes and Masset likely to regress after outstanding years, it'd be nice to have Burton return to his '08 form next year.  With Burton settled, the Reds will not have any arbitrations this year.  

Dusty Baker Destroys Aroldis Chapman's Arm Within Minutes Of Arrival | The Onion
iheartchrissabo posted this gem from The Onion. They still got it!  Unlike this guy, who earnestly trots out the same old chestnuts about Baker that we've all heard.

Doug Gray's looking for a little help out West
Do you plan on seeing the Reds affiliates in Arizona or Billings this year? If so, you may be able to help Doug take a hard look at the Reds system. I'm happy to hear that Doug may be producing a Reds Prospect Guide after the 2010 season based on his travels and studies.

C. Trent's Going to Spring Training
I'm pleasantly surprised to see that C. Trent exceeded his fundraising goal to send him to Spring Training.  A victory for the independent media.  

Cannons in the bushes: rating minor league outfielders’ arms - THT
Our own Denis Phipps tops the list. Along with the top arm rating, Phipps also showed great range last year in Sarasota, with a great +15 TotalZone rating. Unfortunately his light bat (237/285/385) makes it unlikely we'll ever see him in Cincinnati.

Jim Edmonds 'challenges' La Russa, wants back on Cardinals
With McGwire back in St. Louis, Jim Edmonds is getting aggressively nostalgic: "I'm challenging [Tony LaRussa] to let me come back and play for the Cardinals again for free," Edmonds said to the crowd at Chaifetz Arena in St. Louis. Just be sure not to challenge Uncle Walt, Jim. 

Chicago Cubs plan massive restructuring of Wrigley Field
"The project, called "Wrigley 20-14" for its completion date, includes construction projects during the season so the Cubs can use it "for another 100 years," according to President Crane Kenney. The focal point of the massive restructuring will be the long-talked-about "triangle building" to the west, a project that will include knocking down the outer wall on the third-base side to form a large open-air courtyard that would include concession areas and shops."

Padres Obtain the Hairstons
After a weekend trade in which they obtained Scott Hairston and minor leaguers from Oakland for 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff, the Padres also obtained Jerry Hairston Jr. as well.  The $ figure I'm seeing for Cherry is 2.125M for one year, which sounds kind of high.  But there's no price on family fun.  The Gileses are so 2007!

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Ben Sheets

I’m against that. I really don’t think he can hold up- I think he’s Cy Young material if he’s healthy, but I just don’t think the risk is worth it.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 19, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Only if he come cheap

And if the reports are true, he isn’t interested in cheap……

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Jan 19, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

He won't be cheap

There are supposed to be over 10 teams interested…. Somebody is going to overpay

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Cardinals will sign him and he'll go 18-7, the bastards

"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2

by jch24 on Jan 19, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

St Louis is a great city

"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch

by obc2 on Jan 19, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 19, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well played, sir.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

"Just seeing him in uniform makes me throw up." Jack Clark on Mark McGwire's new coaching job

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 20, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

They musta photoshopped out the back acne

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-Hilaire Belloc

by poojols on Jan 19, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

maybe walt is just bidding him up.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Jan 20, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

That would be cool.

It would also be cool if he’s honestly just fuckin’ with em by showing up to look at him…gettin’ in their heads that they don’t know what he might do…

"Just seeing him in uniform makes me throw up." Jack Clark on Mark McGwire's new coaching job

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 20, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

curiously

David “MVP” Eckstein can’t connect Sheets to Baker and his PAP smear theory. That has to hurt Eckstein quite a lot. But if we sign Sheets, man oh man. Who is this Eckstein guy anyhow? MVP standing for Mostly Vapid Points.

Sheets, cheap? Yeah.
Sheets, not cheap? No.

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by johnu1 on Jan 19, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

I would sheet myself if we signed Sheets

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Jan 19, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

damn that was bad.....

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

There was a giggle in there...

Maybe:
“If we sign him, I’m gonna absolutely sheet myself. On Madville’s birthday.”

"Just seeing him in uniform makes me throw up." Jack Clark on Mark McGwire's new coaching job

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 20, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

KKK'd

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 20, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

And where ya gonna play in STL, Mr. Edmonds?

Last time I checked, you can’t play defense anymore, and your bat is only so-so (and this might be very generous).

If anything, you’d have to pay the Cards to let you play.

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 19, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

$2.15 for Cherry isn't bad

Given the FA rates so far this offseason, he’ll only have to be worth about .6 WAR to be worth it. Cherry’s good for that!

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Really interesting trade for those of us who are into prospects.

I really like both prospects in the deal. Aaron Cunningham can hit and, although he doesn’t have big power, could be a great fit in San Diego. Eric Sogard is a fine prospect at 2B, but Oakland has some depth there. Should be interesting.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 19, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Dr. T - My Birthday looms...

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
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by Madville on Jan 19, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on your view of replacement level

To me, Cherry is close enough to replacement that you shouldn’t pay much more than the minimum. Seems like an odd move for a club that’s financially strapped.

by ken on Jan 19, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

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You can buy their new release, Transference, on Amazon for $3.99. If you’re not a fan of Spoon, don’t buy it.

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by Slyde on Jan 19, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

I'm waiting for the new Fork

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Jan 19, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

best of both worlds

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Jan 19, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the whole idea was co-opted

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 20, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

got tickets to see them last night. not sure what to expect from them live?

I also don’t know if I like their whole catalog. I just have gagagaga, but I’m expecting good things from what I’ve read.

by mdccclxix on Jan 19, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Fay says our payroll is at about $70 million right now.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/01/19/reds-payroll-so-far-70-million-or-so/

We pretty much knew that, but are we really going to pay Justin Lehr a million bucks if he makes the team? Dusty’s gonna put him on the squad just for that, ala Darnell McDonald.

by Geki on Jan 19, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Shane Mosley/Floyd Mayweather Jr

interesting to see if Floyd the Cowardly insists on the same blood testing for Shane that he wanted for Manny. Shane, fyi, was an admitted Balco client and acknowledged he used the Clear and the Cream a few years back.

"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch

by obc2 on Jan 19, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

Floyd will indeed insist on testing.

Article here. Floyd, at this point has to continue to ask for testing because it presents the appearance that he genuinely cares about the future of the sport and a level playing field, not just f’in up the biggest fight of the past 25 years.. And, Mosley chimed in during the Pac negotiations that he would submit to any test, any time. At this point an early May date is likely since Berto pulled out of the fight later in the month. No way they go head to head with Pac on March 13th. Each has to build box office and PPV numbers for the next negotiation and the same date would harm all of that.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 19, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Most don't.

My opinion is that this is all bullshit posturing.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 19, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Floyd doesnt want to fight Manny

he doesnt like fighting people that he might lose too. he’s doesnt have a champion’s heart…

"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch

by obc2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Sign the guy with the stuff and make it incentive laden. Sheets is a god when healthy

keep thinking big, Walt.

‘Course, i would have signed him to a multi-year deal last year a la the great Ron Gant. But, I’m old school and I like talented ballplayers. throw 30 million at a kid and be afraid to throw 8-10 at a veteran who was dominant and had elbow issues. For god’s sake, it wasn’t his shoulder; it was his elbow.

Make this happen, Walt.

by timb116 on Jan 19, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

8-10 for how long?

Here’s the problem: either he doesn’t impress and only gets a 1 year, incentive laden deal, or he convinces people he’s back on form and gets 2-3 years and much more than that guaranteed… The fact that he is a proven commodity essentially prices the Reds out of the market.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Jan 19, 2010 1:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd do two years and a player option/balloon at three

What I mean is here’s 5 + 3 for some easily reachable incentive: (15 starts, 120 IP) and here’s some you’ll never reach (2 mill for 200 IP or 20 wins or 200 strikeouts, etc). Reaching any of the first group of incentives, makes the second guaranteed at 8 plus the same incentives.

Lastly, a player option for 12 or 13 for year three, if he met the low level of incentives in the previous two years. I’m betting/gambling that if he did, then he would either re-negotiate in year two or opt for free agency after year two for the Yankee payday, since decent starters go for way more than 13 in the open market.

Then again, I love pitchers and all, but I almost never give a pitcher more than a three deal. It takes an extraordinary guy to warrant more than three years….

by timb116 on Jan 19, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i doubt it will happen, but ...

harang
arroyo
sheets
cueto
bailey

wow!

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Jan 19, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

What is the precedent for players with Sheets injury?

I just know shoulders are f’d up to fix.

I’d almost rather have him as the 5th starter, but my favorite team would use him 3rd.

He’ll get tired late in the year when we’re making our postseason push.

I hate to pass…

by mdccclxix on Jan 19, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

so people are worried about the elbow. I didn't know that.

he tore his lat dorsi two years ago, who knows, maybe he’s all better.

by mdccclxix on Jan 19, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I dislocated my shoulder - severely

My arm still tingles and goes to sleep on me a lot..there is nerve damage that can’t be fixed And its is my left arm..my bowling arm…but does this stop me from competing..NO…fuck’n sign this guy and get his sorry ass out on the mound.

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 19, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

No T.

I was standing on an antique chest at my store trying to reach the track lights to change a bulb and stepped off into…nothing..I landed on the top of an adjacent dining table but I landed in such a way that I really screwed the ol’ arm up, took months of rehab to get it working again…Long Story Short – I take my turn every 7 days…i throw the maximum amount of balls and sure I’m in some pain…but what’s a little pain to a real athlete? Sandy Koufax never complained..so neither should I…

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Three

One to change the lightbulb, one to write a novel about the experience, and one to be blown by the lightbulb.

"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2

by jch24 on Jan 20, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 20, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No my Indian name is "Runs For Beers"

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 20, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also, RE: CTrent, Doug, Independent Media

I’m all for mergers. Couldn’t Doug really help someone like CTrent? Couldn’t CTrent really help someone like Doug? Seems like a decent match. None of my business, really, it’s just topical right now.

by mdccclxix on Jan 19, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

good argument, even

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Jan 20, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

why all the BS about Sheets?

if the Reds are gonna spend that kinda money (they arent), they should spend it on Tejada (they wont).

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 19, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

It could indicate they're doing what the Rangers did

by unloading Millwood to the O’s and buying Harden with an incentive laden deal.

That’s all I got.

by mdccclxix on Jan 19, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, charlie....

as Yogi always said pitching is 90% of the game; the other half is mental."

A actual living breathing ace on a Reds staff is something I ain’t seen round these parts since back in….well ought 1993 or so when Jose Rijo was able to pitch. Why, I remember it like it was yesterday. A more than 50/50 chance to win on Opening Day….an owner who cared more about winning than telling stories about budget woes…oh, Charlie, they say those were the good ol’ days, but they weren’t always good. Sometimes, the reds finished second or a strike ruined their season. But, we had fun, mayhap we did.

You can keep the ghost of Miguel Tejada and spend the money on pitching and then somebody on some blog somewhere can look at this team’s offensive numbers and opine like a recent comment re: the Giants “I don’t know they won anything with that line-up”.

by timb116 on Jan 19, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

"Who is David MVP Eckstein"

That is me. I’m a sabermetrics writer.

PAP is nothing I made up. It’s something statistically proven by BP and various other sources over the years as impacting a player’s durability and injury propensity; so too, is “the verducci effect”

And I see you guys have the Jim Edmonds bit up. Check this out for why Jim Edmonds would be a good pick up at the right cost:
http://gameofinches.blogspot.com/2010/01/bring-out-yer-dead.html

Thanks for linking to us, though. We appreciate it whenever this site does.

by David MVP Eckstein on Jan 19, 2010 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

"It’s something statistically proven by BP and various other sources over the years as impacting a player’s durability and injury propensity"

I’ve asked this question to many people and have yet to see a study that actually proves this. I know BP claims there is some correlation, but I’ve never seen a number that convinces me that PAP is predictive of injuries.

But that’s not what I dislike about your post. What I dislike is the use of rankings for this stat. For PAP to actually work, there should be a theoretical cutoff point or a “safe number” for a pitcher is at risk. We have no idea what that number is, so more often than not we these things based on rankings. So you list Edinson Volquez as 17th in PAP in 2008 and then list him later on the surgery list. However, I have no idea what that ranking means. Volquez was closer to 50th on the list than he was to 5th in total and average PAP. So, how am I supposed to tell what is a bad level of PAP?

I’m not a Dusty Baker supporter by any means, but outside of 2 weird uses of Aaron Harang, I haven’t seen him be particularly abusive to any of the Reds pitchers. And I feel like PAP is just a case of putting a number on anecdotal evidence and calling it definitive.

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by Slyde on Jan 19, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And I would jump on that quote, too, for slightly different reasons.

Nothing is “statistically proven.” A factor can be a good predictor or it can be correlated with an outcome, but it is not “statistically proven” to impact anything.

This should probably end up in one of the many installments of “Economics for Baseball Fans,” which I’ll surely get around to posting here sometime when I’m sufficiently bored.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jan 19, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Green'd

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 20, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Ryan's career durability supposedly benefited from a relatively late start

At age 25 he threw 284 innings, but prior to that he had not been a full-time starter. Mark Prior, on the other hand, threw 234 innings (including post-season) at 22.

None of which is relevant to Volquez or Cueto, who are the only comparisons for how Baker may treat Chapman. Neither has reached 200 innings in a season, and more importantly, neither has reached 120 pitches more than once under Baker (120 for Cueto, 121 for Volquez).

by ken on Jan 19, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats the MVP stand for?

The MVP is an irony I included in the name. He’s clearly not a real MVP. It would be like naming myself Darren “The College Punter” Erstad or Bengie “On Base” Moline

by David MVP Eckstein on Jan 19, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

But what does it STAND for?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 19, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Move vomit, please?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 19, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Man Versus Pants: The jch24 story

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by BK on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

SPOILER ALERT: I know who wins

"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2

by jch24 on Jan 19, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

or Red Sox V Yankees

Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Jan 19, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, that's not a spoiler alert

that’s like saying, SPOILER ALERT: I know what happens at the end of The Sixth Sense!

Get it right, jerk!

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Jan 19, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

everyone dies

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Jan 19, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The Sixth Sense?

havent ever heard of that book.

"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch

by obc2 on Jan 19, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

What is WAR good for?

"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch

by obc2 on Jan 19, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Wins Above Replacement level

by David MVP Eckstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

you hear that, MVP?

She doesn’t get it.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Jan 20, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet little song..if you are a pedophile

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 20, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

My Violet Pony

Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.

-Hilaire Belloc

by poojols on Jan 19, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Magnum Vested Penis

"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles

by BK on Jan 19, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

my vagina period

Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Jan 19, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

More vermin, please

Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.

-Hilaire Belloc

by poojols on Jan 19, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Most vile placenta

Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.

-Hilaire Belloc

by poojols on Jan 19, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

mostly virile penis

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Many Vapid Puns

"She goes to the tanning bed.....you know what that means." -- obc2

by jch24 on Jan 20, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Monumental Vile Puking

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 20, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Most Vapid Poster ?

David MVP Eckstein ?

Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry

by Madville on Jan 19, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

On CNN

One of the talking heads said Martha Coakley sealed her doom when she revealed that she didn’t know who Curt Schilling was.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 19, 2010 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

I don't expect politicians to follow sports,

but if you’re going to inject sports into a conversation try to have some idea of what you’re talking about. I think it’s the completely talking out of her ass which offends voters much more than the lack of knowledge about Schilling himself.

by ken on Jan 19, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

Maybe in a normal place. But we’re talking Red Sox Nation here!

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by BubbaFan on Jan 19, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 20, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

more like:

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Jan 20, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, you're probably right.

I don’t see an ounce of melanin in that photo.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 20, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

more importantly, can we finally close the book on the question of "how big an ass Schilling is?"

The constant, narcissistic, self-hype in baseball terms was enough. His belief of himself as some sort of everyman god was suggestive. His injection into politics (whether I agree with him or not) is the perfect example of the rodeo clown who wants attention. Athletes, with a few exceptions of intelligent, well-read athletes (that should disqualify upwards of 90%) should stay out of politics and just concentrate on moving to Florida to avoid state income taxes.

Schilling has never been more annoying to me than he was during this election campaign. I vote we kick his ass out of the country until he shows me he’s done more homework on politics than looking at his tax return and fuming or deciding he likes Bush because Bush knew Jesus better.

Just wow.

by timb116 on Jan 20, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I get the feeling that Mrs. Coakley had never heard of the Red Sox

which is weird, very weird.

On the other hand, I could see my 12 year sports-hating daughter growing up and never knowing who played for the Reds, except for Junior (they have the same birthday and Dad has mentioned it a million times).

Worse to imagine: that some person who voted thought the Schilling gaffe would be important enough to switch to a Brown vote!

by timb116 on Jan 20, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

you're probably right

and just to let you know, i’ve wished all kinds of evil on the bread $ox. i said i hope fenway park naming rights get sold to a company with new york in the title, that papebutt and pedroia go to the bankee$ before year’s end, that leatherpants becomes their GM…all the sudden, the bankee$ drop to number 3 on my 9th circle of hell list. congrats. hee hee.

by Daedalus on Jan 19, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

this makes me feel a tiny bit better now

only a tiny bit, but enough to laugh, which is supposedly some sort of medicine?

by Daedalus on Jan 20, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

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