Red Reposter - More on Chapman and the Reds Winter Caravan
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 12:31 PM EST
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Sheldon takes us step-by-step through the process of signing Chapman
The Reds were in negotiations the whole time, since Chapman's big workout in front of the league in mid-December. Chapman's agent Randy Hendricks said one of the determining factors was the Reds youth and overall crumminess.
"So here's the metaphor I used when teams expressed concern this would be for just the highest bidder, like New York or Boston," Hendricks said. "'If I had a great first baseman from Cuba, do you think I'd call the St. Louis Cardinals first? We wanted opportunity. We would like to put him in a system where he'd have an opportunity to emerge sooner." -
Jon Heyman asked a Reds official why they took the gamble on Chapman
"Besides throwing fastballs through walls? Well above average slider... average curve... Seems to really understand the cultural bridge he needs to cross... Perfect pitcher's body... VERY coordinated. Picks up mechanical corrections and repeats ... Relatively low number of innings pitched... VERY clean physical specimen... Seems to ask the right questions... Knows he needs to develop a changeup, so he asked about hooking up with Mario Soto... Out of the chute, he appears to 'get it.'''
So Chapman sought out Mario Soto, not the other way around. The kid's got moxxy, fer sher. -
John Hickey at FanHouse says history is stacked against Aroldis Chapman
He says Cuban pitchers have not fared so well coming to the US. He cites Ariel Prieto, who the A's drafted back in '95. Prieto was dogged by injuries and was out of baseball by 2001. He argues that there just isn't enough information available on these guys when they are signed. Of course, he pretty much ignores the success stories of guys like the Hernandez brothers, Danys Baez, and Jose Contreras. Definitely not a good argument. -
The Fay passes along an amusing anecdote
The first chance Chapman will get to face big-league hitters as a Red will be in spring training. This is often much tougher on the hitter than the pitcher, as the hitter likely hasn't faced live pitching in a few months. An unnamed Reds hitter and an unnamed official had this text-message exchange:
Official: We signed a kid who throws 100. Watch yourself when you hit against him.
Player: My hamstring hurts already. -
Tangotiger released his yearly Marcel projections
and again FanGraphs has integrated them into their player pages. FanGraphs is my favorite stats site on the web, and one of the many reasons is because they have so many different projection systems set up side-by-side for easy comparison. If you haven't taken part in their Fans Projections project yet, head on over there and check it out. - Fay tells us who is going where for the Reds Caravan later this month
You can check here to see when the Caravan might be coming to your area. For all you 614ers out there, they will be at the Polaris Mall on Sunday the 31st. I plan on being there as well. -
The Crawfish Boxes thinks the Astros signing of Brett Myers is hypocritical
considering they DFA'd Julio Lugo a few years back citing a domestic violence charge as the cause. The way their offseason is going (and the way the past few seasons have gone) I certainly do not envy 'stros fans.
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The way Heyman is going after this Chapman deal
you’d think the Reds had signed the corpse of Richard Nixon for 30 mil
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
he never ceases to amaze me
regarding the depths of his ignorance. either that, or he’s chewing some serious sour grapes.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
honestly i didn't think it was that bad
he also said that it may be a good gamble, but we haven’t seen him pitch against decent competition, so it is difficult to judge him.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Heyman's been ripping the signing since the news broke
and as i’ve said before, deals shouldnt be judged on results, but rather the info available at the time of the signing.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
i think heyman’s really looking like a fool with his pants on the ground
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
by boobs on Jan 14, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
pants on the ground!
gold in your mouth! hat turned to the side!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
From his website:
1/14/09 – Many Interview Requests today for General Larry Platt. General is going to be very busy these next few days. He was invited to be a guest on the Danny Bonaduce Show!
Exclamation point.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Pants on the ground?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
And an assumption that the Reds have gathered all the available information.
/Gary Majewski’ed
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's just mad that the Yankees or Red Sox didn't sign him
he’s an assclown
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Heyman is establishing himself among the elite douches in the country.
I keep in my twitter portfolio just so I know what’s not actually happening.
by Brian B on Jan 14, 2010 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Excuse me, Mr Hendricks..
I’m glad your boy came to the Reds and all but uh.. that’s not really a metaphor. That’s really just a good solid analogy.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
That's racist!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 14, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
metaphorically speaking
i think your literately correct.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for literately
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hickey's piece
puzzled me a little. He cites a pitcher from 15 years ago who had injuries and never matured, comparing him to a completely different person 15 years later. He quotes Beane as admitting the A’s didn’t research their work properly.
Then the last sentence of the story quotes Beane as saying the Chapman signing is worth the gamble, which is contrary to the entire premise of the article. Nothing like finding two unrelated leaves under the same tree and concluding that nature made a mistake.
Folks, whoever taught sportswriters their craft in the 21st century would have been laughed out of the office during my young days as a scribe. I cannot believe what we pawn off as fact in the age of blog journalism.
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
by johnu1 on Jan 14, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
watch yer mouth
this here’s a blog yer talkin’ on :)
i dont blame the internet for the degradation of journalism. shit, Jon Heyman is one of the Ancien Regime and he sucks as bad as any of them.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
viva la revolucion
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 14, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Invade Cuba!
We have to find a shortstop and a catcher (and end fascism or whatev)
Speaking of our two biggest holes…(snicker snicker)
Will Dusty Baker’s successor try Brandon Philips at SS? It’s the move that makes the most sense for the organization (unless Wolfgang Amadeus Cozart suddenly become a virtuoso with the bat).
Also – and I can’t blame anyone for initially laughing at the notion – with the logjam at 1B/LF…does anyone have a defensive report on Joey Votto at his drafted position: catcher? How horrible an idea is it to consider letting him put on the pads for 2011? Was he so bad there defensively that it’s a bad idea?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Conventional wisdom says...
..let the best hitter on your team focus on hitting. And let some old guys who can speak Spanish call the game.
Plus, Joey gets dizzy.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Joey does get dizzy...
But conventional wisdom also says that you should bat a speedy guy at the top of the order, even if he can’t get on base.
So conventional wisdom can blow me.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
prior to the last revolution
Fidel may or may not have auditioned for the Senators. There are some questions as to if that actually happened.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well, sort of:
FROM MLB’s 2002 Draft Preview: Large, strong frame. Body similar to Darren Fletcher. Fluid uppercut swing. Aggressive hitter who attacks ball. Loose arm with good action and proper rotation. Catches ball and blocks plate. Impressive physical specimen. Hard worker.
FROM BA’s 2002 Draft Preview: C/3B Joey Votto is a solid hitter with a quick, smooth lefthanded stroke, plus bat speed, good extension and projectable power. He has a strong body, moves well in the field with fluid actions and shows a good glove and average arm strength
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I read nothing negative in that report...
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
It’s interesting that neither report mentions Joey’s ability to drive balls to the opposite field. Is that something that he developed in the minors or is that something draft guys rarley talk about?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 14, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
At the time, Canadian players generally didn't receive
quite as in-depth public scouting reports. Votto wasn’t even considered the best catcher in Canada in the 2002 draft (Chris Robinson was), so that probably led to even less being written about him.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure Votto's got mad skillz.
But Chris Robinson did make one hell of a catch.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I will never figure that one out
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
He talks to angels, duh.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 14, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well -
He pretends to be John Lennon
She pretends to have a brain.
He + She = Love
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
just like the real John and Yoko!
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Mark David Chapman'd
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
ow
too soon
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
their new album is pretty good
well, at least it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be.
And it’s rangy.
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Jan 15, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Strange.
I didn’t know if they were even still together.
This afternoon I posted this pic and then this evening I was listening to some sports talk radio and during the ‘Pop Culture’ segment a caller asked “I’m black and I listen to the Black Crowes. Is that weird?”
And I thought, “Well, only in that I don’t think anybody listens to them any more.”
But what do i know these days? If it weren’t for some Kanye that my kids dig on ‘Graduation’), it’d be all Kidz Bop all the time around here.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 15, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Black Crowes were big at my high school
and I never really liked them at all. Except that I really loved about half of Amorica, which seems like pointless hair-splitting now, but made sense to me at the time.
In any case, I’ve always thought they were one of the few bands who were best set up to write a really widely successful AND satisfying rock album in the manner of those mid-70s bohemoths.
Their latest double platter isn’t that, but it did remind me that they were capable of it. And perhaps they still are.
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Jan 15, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds good.
So now it’s safe for Tom Petty to go away forever.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 15, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
FWIW
I loved most of Amorica as well. Still do. The rest, not so much.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 15, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Damnit Petey I copywrited that nickname - Wolfgang Amadeus Cozar
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
I used it as an homage to you, Mads.
A nickname is only viable if multiple people use it, and I am merely circulating your brilliance. :)
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I agree john
and if you don’t think the internet (generally speaking) has done a hatchet job on journalism, journalistic integrity, and the English language in general, I think you’re crazy.
I believe traditional journalists have done just as much harm to journalistic integrity and the English language
The upper echelon of traditional journalists have their equals in electronic media. If you cherry pick the morons on the internet and compare them to the more accomlished print journalists, sure they’re idiots.
by Brian B on Jan 14, 2010 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, you'll be glad to know that Norris Hopper
signed with the Brewers today.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions
didn't we get Corky Miller for him?
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
A couple of other former Reds
signed minor league deals today. Jason Standridge is a Phillie. Bobby Livingston is a Met.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i liked watching Livingston pitch
i have a fetish for soft tossing lefties.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
And today, Jolbert Cabrera signed with the Mets.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 15, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Ancient, meaning ... from the 1990s?
Some of these analysts are paying attention to the facts as they are conveniently located.
It’s the Rush Limbaugh theory of fact management.
The problem with blog journalism is that critique of the product comes after its publication, not while it is researched. When it is deemed unworthy, the link is removed. Simply, just undo the mistake by failing to acknowledge one was made.
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
i dont think that is necessarily a bad thing
when the editorial process is out in the open it makes for good argumentation. that is what i love most about blog journalism: if you write something stupid, you will be called out. /shakes fist at Jon Heyman
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
well, yeah
… we are certainly doing that, calling folks out for their mistakes.
It’s when the stuff becomes scattered about for people to believe is gospel. Our critiques of bad writing don’t often follow the original mistakes.
My point on Hickey’s piece is that while it is interesting, it is not relevant. Having a “different take” on the Chapman signing isn’t always necessary.
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
and I think relevance matters
You have to live in the shadow of Chicago during the 2005 World Series to hiccup your way through the versions of how the 05 Sox were “similar” to the 1959 pennant winner. Yeah, that was written by more than one scribe.
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
you were a late addition
but you might be our best new member of 2009!
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bloggers, posters and such, as much as I didn't care for them during my newspaper days,
have made the world of sports much more interesting and I’ve grown to appreciate them. The accountability bar has been raised. I’m bothered somewhat, however, that it doesn’t go both ways at all times. My name and/or photo was on everything I wrote this side of agate or briefs. That “I’mthebomb936” could call me an idiot without having the guts to reveal his true identity just wasn’t right. Even on this board, if you check my profile you get my real name.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
It’s more interesting and instantly interactive, almost to a fault.
It has opened the door to scrutiny from people whose time might be better spent learning to read instead of attempting to correspond on a keyboard. Alas, I also weary of the anonymous angry voices out there. I am also willing to reveal my profile and name, provided nobody tries to steal my identity.
I am, after all, Batman.
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
You lie!!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 14, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well, I am
Batman.
Trust me.
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
Hi, my name is Joel
I’ll admit that the main reason I didn’t use my real name from the start is because I didn’t want it to get back to my employer that I spent so much time not doing what they were paying me for, though to my credit it was more because I was able to be really efficient at my job and was done a lot faster than they expected. Anyway, that has only been the reason I’ve ever hid behind a moniker. Now that I don’t have that job to worry about, I’m actually considering using my name in place of my moniker.
I know you weren’t talking about me specifically, but I’ve been thinking about this for a couple of months now. I haven’t completely committed one way or the other yet though. I agree that it’s silly that my name isn’t on what I write, but then again, neither is Jon Stewart’s, LL Cool J’s, or Mark Twain’s.
Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter
Joel, huh? Sure it is.
So, Joel. If that’s you’re real name … nah, I wasn’t referring to anyone specific. Ninety-nine percent of posts probably don’t require a real name. The guys who really bothered me were those who obviously didn’t know their fannies from third base, yet relished in their ability to make insulting drive-by postings at will.
Interesting to think about, isn’t it?
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Allow me to advocate for the devil here...
You say:
My name and/or photo was on everything I wrote this side of agate or briefs. That "I’mthebomb936" could call me an idiot without having the guts to reveal his true identity just wasn’t right.
But sportswriters and particularly sports columnists have always set themselves up for their readers to disagree with them. (Who would read very many sports columns if you didn’t find some to disagree with?) “I’mthebomb936” is just the guy who used to call you an idiot from the break room after he ate his Little Debby, chugged his shitty coffee and read your article before heading back to work. He called you an idiot then. You just didn’t hear him.
Well, now you say he should put his (real) name next to his opinion. Why? Because journalists always have? Because journalists always will? In the newspapers, sure. But we’re not all here reading newspapers. Is it right to assume that everyone sees the blogosphere as an extension of newspapers and is it right to assume that everyone should adhere to all of the same rules and guidelines that applied to newspapers should still apply in blogosphere because it may or may not evolved from newspapers?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Also
A certain level of accountability comes with being paid to do something.
I have to attach my name to what I do for a living…….the crap I espouse on this site, notsomuch.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
Ditto.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I am coming across a bit "holier than thou,"
which wasn’t my intention. Just flashing back to some particular pet peeves from back in the day, I reckon.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you, though
Just trying to justify the anonymity.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
I agree with your premise also
It’s very easy to sit on the sidelines and make all sorts of value judgements without actually talking to people – just ask Jay Mariotti. However, if you’re not interested in actually entering a conversation with me, I’m not interested in your opinion.
There are real reasons (at least, reasons that seem real) that people “hide” behind monikers, but it’s amazing that those with the most to lose aren’t afraid to let you know who they are (what, someone would rather steal my identity than Curt Shilling’s?).
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
yup
I do a lot of stuff on another blog that I do use my real name for. That blog is more focused on stuff that I’m interested in getting paid to be interested in, so I want to be official that I really care about that sort of stuff. I also write a LOT differently there than I do here. I try really hard to split that blog and this blog and make sure that the readerships don’t cross.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
wait, which blog?
we’d never crash that party.
really.
we promise.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
I realize what I suggest isn't going to happen.
It’s very much like when I received an unsigned letter. I pitched it without reading it. If the writer didn’t have the guts to sign it, I didn’t have time to read it.
I didn’t mind someone disagreeing with me. Plenty of times I was wrong. Still am.
We mentioned how the blogs have resulted in greater accountability. I wonder how many bloggers/posters would be so quick on the draw if their readers knew who they were. It’s kind of like fans booing. It’s easy to do in a crowd of thousands. Not so much one on one.
I suppose it comes with the territory of being a public figure, whether writer, coach, athlete, actor, etc. I’m just not always so sure it’s progress.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, that was uncalled for.
Today at work, I was eating a Little Debbie and chugged bad coffee. I never called anyone an idiot.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
you are no Mark Twain
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
I knew Jack Kennedy
you are know Jack Kennedy.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
yes
maybe
love,
petey
109
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
Did anyone get this one?
Too obscure? Mads?!?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
you're no Jack Kennedy Petey
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Yeah - I don't come from a family of excellent swimmers.
"Just seeing him in uniform makes me throw up." Jack Clark on Mark McGwire's new coaching job
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 17, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Love the new sig
Also, love the fact that the first time I see it it’s under a picture of a guy with a big puffy head, and it’s a quote from another guy with a big puffy head. When did Jack Clark’s head get so big and puffy anyway?
Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.
-Hilaire Belloc
hehe thanks
"Just seeing him in uniform makes me throw up." Jack Clark on Mark McGwire's new coaching job
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 17, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
I don't use my real name
Because I’ve had issues with stalkers in the past. Like, people who write to your boss and demand you be fired. Or slash your tires.
IOW, it’s the people who can’t leave it on the Internet that worry me.
If I were being paid, I suppose I would consider that part of the job description, but no way am making myself vulnerable to that for free, at least if I can help it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
there are people who have hunted you down in reality?
I mean i like most the people here, but I don’t feel strongly enough but anyone on this site`to personally hunt them down, unless it is an RR event.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
yes
And really, for most part it was over things you wouldn’t think people would be that upset about.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
so i better not run into a disgruntled overbearing out of work middle school english teacher?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
multiple people hunted you down?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
yes, it's happened more than once
Probably half the time, it’s a traditional stalker – a guy who thinks he’s in love.
The other times were the kind of weird you only get on the Internet. For example, I was moderating a forum where a prominent poster had a severe case of “Munchausen by Internet.” She was a middle-aged woman, who was pretending to be a bunch of young men. I got suspicious, because so many terrible things were happening to them. They were raped, they were hit by cars, they threatened suicide, they got cancer, they needed organ transplants, their parents or brothers or sisters died in their arms, etc. So I checked the IP addresses, and realized it was all one person, making up these stories. (I confess, I looked them up, too…and found out they didn’t exist.) I felt I had to tell people, because they were genuinely upset by these stories. Plus, one of the sockpuppets was pretending to be a doctor, and giving rather suspect medical advice. So I posted an announcement and booted her and her sockpuppets.
Weirdly, she wasn’t the one who tracked me down. She took it in stride, having been through it many times before (as I found out later). It was someone who was a fan of one her sockpuppets. A gay teenager. He refused to believe the “guy” he had a crush on wasn’t real, and so came after me for making up lies.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
okay that's just freaky
I hereby double my resolve to keep my kids names and pictures off the intertubes.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
that is really sad
i guess that is the problem when people live lives completely behind a screen name.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't know...
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
So you were scared of a gay teenager? Really?
What was he gonna do, play Lady Gaga until you relented?
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
a little homophobic.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 15, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. No one should be subjected
to that — paid or unpaid. It’s astonishing.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have no fear, most people here could probably recognize me and call me by name on the street at this point. :)
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
Turtle
Your comment made me look at your profile. I remember you well from your newspaper days.
by ThisonebelongstotheReds on Jan 14, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Uh-oh!
I knew somebody was reading me. You’re the one!
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
is it a pain in the ass for you to log in with that screen name?
Is your password “Heresthe2-0pitchtoRoyWhiteswungonhighflyballtoleftcenterfieldthatshoulddoitFosterhasitandthe1976worldchampionshipbelongstothecincinnatireds”?
by Brian B on Jan 14, 2010 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sports commentors and writer only tell what they've been told. Can you think og a dumber group of persons than professinal athletes/?
Probably it is professional sportscasters. I played baseball and I know from playing the game that I am right and you people are wrong. And don’t tell me about using fake names Thundering Penguin, you are just as bad as all the rest, if you ever were really a sportscaster, at least Sarah Palin has the footage to prove it. Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. Baseball is real simple. You throw the ball, catch the ball and hit the ball. Speedness in pitching and running along with clutchness in hitting is the difference maker. why do you think the Yankees are the greatest team in the history of all sports. they understand this in New York.
I am an accountable American and I am proud of it. I am a die hard Redlegs fan and proud of that too.
i AM RIGHT YOU ARE NOT
Tracy Jones? Is that you?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 14, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Tracy was a great baseball player.
Everyone knew that he should have batted 3rd and not leadoff. He had power and speed and was better than Austin Kearns or Dickerson. you just don’t like him because he tells it like it is. He was a very good major leaguer and sures know the game from the inside out better than you.
i AM RIGHT YOU ARE NOT
Tracy was a fair ballplayer who admits he didn't have MLB talent.
His career numbers are sad, especially considering that he was corking his bat. Juice, as well?
Tracy hit 27 career homers. That’s a fraction of Kearns’ power. Kearns homered in 8 straight minor league games. Tracy Jones once sat the bench for the Colorado SkySox.
I liked Tracy as a Red, and I like Tracy now – perhaps because I don’t listen to his radio show.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Aha - the truth revealed!
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
is this satirical joke?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I bet it is some crazy lurker dude that feels empowered by Jacob's Lurker's unite thread.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
"speedness in pitching"
Man Mountain.
Betcha a Pepsi.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
oh
and i prefer Coke. with plenty of ice. thanks.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
especially the second commandment bit
it has got to be. He is around here posting that clapping picture, obviously bored out of his mind.
Isn’t he old enough for adult daycare?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck you Justin
Where’s my walker?
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
here
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
"Second Commandment"
definitely a joke
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
YOU ARE WRONG THIS IS NOT A JOKE
Nor is a satyrical – I don’t believe in mythology.
nor do i like cats.
they lie.
i AM RIGHT YOU ARE NOT
good thing you have the second commandment.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
in sovite russia joke satirizes you
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 14, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
oh?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
so bk
track the ip address, which one of us leads a double life.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not your mom
Figure it out for yourself
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 14, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
please
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Well let me tell you, pal,
I thoroughly enjoyed that.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You sir, are a masochist…
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Sorta sounds like Methodist.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 8:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can you think og a dumber group of persons than professinal athletes/?
That’s treemendus.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
W.t.F?
I just found this amid the wreckage.
The Second Commandment?
“Well, Sarah, that Cuban kid can sho-nuff shoot!”
“Yeah, Thundering, he got that moose right square between the pookums.”
I love you man, and this time I really mean it...thanks Androidis--Madville
by johnu1 on Jan 14, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for pookums
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
There's nothing like
grilled moose pookums.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 15, 2010 11:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
okay fine.
I’ll admit it.
My name is Joe Posnanski.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Wasn't it relatively late in the newspaper game
that many newspaper writers had bylines published.
Like post-70s for most papers?
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Jan 15, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Julio Lugo DFA
Can’t remember where I read this but I am pretty sure Lugo was given a restraining order to stay ‘x’ number of feet away…the only problem being the Ballpark fell within this range so Lugo legally could not enter the stadium.
by jacob brumfield on Jan 14, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions
Convicted American felons can't travel internationally easily.
IIRC this was a potential issue for someone about 4 years back…
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
So much for playing against the Expos.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 14, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yo, somebody tell Crolfer what an Expo is.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 14, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
No one Expos themselve to crolfer.
He’s too young and impressionable.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 14, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
BTW gang in case you could not find it...
here’s the link
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Nuxhall-A-Finalist-For-2010-Ford-C-Frick-Award/zQRmGTrcaE6DLa5IPHjhFg.cspx
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
by Madville on Jan 14, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
so
My parents went on vacation over the holidays, and ended up on a tour with a former NHL player. His young son told them this joke:
What’s the difference between Santa Claus and Tiger Woods?
Santa has only three ho’s!
Mrs. Hockey Player was mortified.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Was she having an affair with Tiger too/
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
realityTVstar'd
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 14, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
On a visit to the Washington Irving residence
in Tarrytown, NY, I met the parents of the one-and-only…John Flaherty!
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
Pat Robertson
just announced that Aroldis Chapman made a deal with the devil to get onto a great beisbol team, and the Carribean is being punished with earthquakes. Do you think we can support this guy, with the blood of thousands on his hands?
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
as a conservative Christian, I can say this:
Pat Robertson needs to shut his mouth.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
as a fairly moderate, somewhat liberal Christian, I can say this:
Pat Robertson needs to shut his mouth.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
As a former non denominational, sectarian, smake-handling Christian
I concur.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
as a moderate socialist who is agnostic
pat robertson needs to just give up.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 15, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
As a no-good Hollywood Elite heathen...
I am happy to paraphrase British windbag Christopher Hitchins:
I think it’s a shame that there’s not actually a hell for Pat Robertson to go to.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
As a conservative Christian,
Pat Robertson needs to shut his mouth.
We’ve found something we all can agree on, here.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 15, 2010 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
as a secular humanist, i can say this:
i thought Pat Robertson died years ago.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 15, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Also as a deacon in the Church of the 13th Disciple and a found membe rof the Chirch of the Ever Widening Void, I ask you Pat:
Pat, why don’t you just go do works among those you hate, take a 10 year vow of silence and blow me.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
If he wanted to do a remake of Damn Yankees
He should have signed with the Nationals or the Twins.
by the finest muffins on Jan 14, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
If Aroldis Chapman made a deal to get onto a great team,
he should sue the devil for breach of contract.
IAN! I'm on traain!
Louisville is probably going to be a great team, actually.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
C. Trent
got over 100% of the money he needs to cover spring training.
148 contributors, $4550.33.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Oh great now we'll have to put up with Blubber Boy's incessant blubbler.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
by Madville on Jan 14, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Limbaugh'd
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 14, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
No one more annoying in Cincy media
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
that's impressive... they only needed $4,000 and they're up to $4550
i wonder if they’ll take the surplus of cash and send it to haiti… doubt it.
He says
if there’s enough money, he’ll bring a photographer.
And honestly, I think Haiti is getting enough money. The problem there right now is no infrastructure to get the donations where they are needed.
At this point, I think I would donate to other charities, that are probably hurting, with the holidays over and so much attention going to Haiti.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Why you Haitin'?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 15, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
nothing personal
I did the same after 9/11. I was going to make a donation, then I realized they had so much money didn’t know what to do with it all.
So I gave the money to my local animal shelter instead, which was suffering much lower donations than usual, because so much money was going to 9/11.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
No, I get it.
I just had a dumb pun that I had to put somewhere.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 15, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Literally 24 hours before the Haiti quake
I was listening to a friend of a friend drone on about how humanity would all be better off if we gave up most of our technology and embraced a subsistence, agrarian lifestyle she had observed while doing research in Haiti.
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Jan 15, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
did she research the lack of safety in Haiti?
I’ve taken some Caribbean history classes, and nothing about Haiti sounds better, it is just a said country.
Also how do you farm if you don’t have top soil?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 15, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
agrarian is not so hot
Jared Diamond argues that agriculture was The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
"Gorillas have had ample free time to build their own Parthenon, had they wanted to."
So Jared Diamond reads Red Reporter?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 15, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
well
He is a baseball fan. His favorite team is the Red Sox, so he might have ended up here by mistake. ;-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
You have AdBlocker, so you probably don't see all the banner ads for Red Sox memorabilia
Dammit, advertising robots! The Reds are a team too! Recognize that there’s a difference, and we aren’t all just forgetting to type in “o-x” at the end!
by Brendanukkah on Jan 15, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I have occasionally viewed this site with IE
and seen those ads.
Plus, very often when I’m searching for info on the Reds, Google helpfully directs me to the Red Sox.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
.240/.275/.285
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jan 15, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cy's argument wins.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 15, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions
in Collapse he talks about how Haiti's destruction of its environment makes the DR look rich compared to it
there’s one particularly interesting aerial photo that shows the border. DR has trees. Haiti’s are gone.
Collapse should be required reading in any high school.
yes
He even mentions that DR exports baseball players.
However, Haiti’s problems are spilling over the border.
It seems almost surreal – people killing each other over blackmarket wood, the way Americans fight over narcotics.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
it's not just Haiti
It’s a huge problem in Afghanistan, too. Even if Afghanistan gets secured for Kabul, their most valuable resources are smuggled rather than sold in a way that actual people can benefit.
Oh, and Collapse should be required reading, but it’s really tough to slog through Diamond for some people (including me). He needs a zippy translator sometimes.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
His articles written for Discover magazine
are more accessible. Not sure if it’s because he knows he’s writing for a more general audience, or if the editors served as “translators.”
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
true
i loved Guns, Germs, and Steel, but i still havent finished the last 100 pages or so. i get it already, you know?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 16, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's funny that he thinks this is an original business model
Think he listens to NPR?
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 14, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all, he isn't that bright..prolly a FOXNEWShead
And he’ll eat up the extra $550 in doughnuts and cokes
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
the only people in the media who watch foxnews
work for foxnews, all the rest are the “liberal elites”.
Think he will find a new “CC”?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
I aint no elitist left liberal
Those guys are as bad as the neo-cons turned alchemists
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
oh i fuckin know
i’m in grad school, i am surrounded by the elitist knee jerk bleeding heart liberals.
Which I say coming from the left…
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 15, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
npr is propped up by government and is never going to go away
plus it’s been around for much longer than the internet.
i don’t get all the hate. it’s a good idea, it’s working, the site is nice for cincinnati sports information, and he sure beats fay as far as coverage goes.
Wow - how very free market!
And it won’t hurt to have another set of eyes and ears down there…could be more info, and tidbits are our oxygen here.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
Not bad.
I’m happy for him, if not weirdly jealous. I have to remember that he’s ostensibly going to be there to work. But is that work?
Also, this dynamic, if it goes on where he asks for donations to the FF or SB or WS…will tire.
Do you think this initial success is an indication that even a niche market reporter could ask for a subscription fee? I’m kind of rooting for that to happen.
There is something to be said for a discerning ear and voice to report to you the things you wish. In a sense it could almost become like the Ctrent Lobby in Redsland. You pay Ctrent, he checks in on things that interest you. Not so different from the old way, just smaller and more efficient, like most things these days.
Anyway, it would seem to be more fair on a yearly rate rather than, “send me here, send me there 5 bucks at a time.”
Yes..."There is something to be said for a discerning ear and voice to report to you.."
I hope CTrent use the Xtra money to purchase a discerning ear And that he has enough left over to buy a discerning eye..and then somewhere finds a point of view that is consistent and intelligent…oh WTF…none of this will ever happen, he’s just going to get fatter.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
he's now offering different levels of subscription
for different donations.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
What does he offer in the way of premiums ?
Premier Level -$1,000 or more – You get to take CT out to dinner, his choice.
Field level – $500 or more – He’ll talk to you for 3 minutes on his cell from the field level at GABP
Fatburger level – $100 or more – You get to take CT to Fatburger, you privilege.
Docksider – $50 or more – He hooks you up for a night on him…you pay the tip.
Blubberboy – under $50 – you get an autographed business card from his days at the Post.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
by Madville on Jan 15, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Check out this tweet
Bonus #Nationalshaiku: Leather pants, bad drafts/Feds sniffing in his business/Bowden’s legacy
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 14, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Since we have some Haiti experts here,
I covered a minor league team on the early 90s and it had a shortstop from the Dominican. He lived very near the border with Haiti and spoke something that none of the other Latin American guys could understand. Any idea what it might have been? I’ve often wondered.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 15, 2010 11:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Haiti is a fascinating place
im not one of the experts you speak of, but i know they mostly speak Haitian Creole and French.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 15, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Some would refer to this combination of languages as Pidgin.
A pidgin (pronounced /ˈpɪdʒɪn/) language is a simplified language that develops as a means of communication between two or more groups that do not have a language in common, in situations such as trade, or where both groups speak languages different than the language of the country in which they reside (but there is no common language between the groups). A “pidgin” language is, fundamentally, a simplified means of linguistic communication, as is constructed impromptu, or by convention, between groups of people. A “pidgin” language is not the native language of any speech community, but is instead learned as a second language. A “pidgin” language may be built from words, sounds, or body language from multiple other languages / cultures. “Pidgin” languages usually have low prestige with respect to other languages.
Not all simplified or “broken” forms of a language (patois) are “pidgin”. Each “pidgin” language has its own norms of usage which must be learned to speak the “pidgin” language well.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
no, I think it's a Creole
A pidgin is a sort of temporary, impromptu thing. A Creole is a stable language that grows out of a mixture of other languages.
In Hawaii, they call the local dialect “pidgin,” but it’s actually a Creole. It’s learned as a first language, and not created on the fly by people trying to communicate with others who don’t speak their language.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
So you will not be considered the "some" people. :)
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 15, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Via Wiki.
“A creole is believed to arise when a pidgin, which was developed by adults for use as a second language, becomes the native and primary language of their children — a process known as nativization.”
IAN! I'm on traain!
yes
Hawaiian pidgin no doubt was a pidgin, in the beginning.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Belize too, methinks.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 16, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
German Mennonites
I was in Belize with my brother, and there was a guy hitchhiking on the side of the road. He was in the full Mennonite regalia — broadbrimmed black hat, white shirt, black pants and jacket. You’d have throught that it was Pennsylvania. So, we figure, how risky can it be to pick up a Mennonite hitchhiker? The guidebooks had said there was a Mennonite community that originally came from Germany. I had a tiny bit of German in high school, so I tried to talk to him in German. Turned out, his German was only slightly better than his English, of which he had none. So, two white kids from the States ended up driving down the road talking to a lily-white Belizean Mennonite in Spanish.
That was a little surreal. But very cool. And that’s why you travel. :)
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
"And that’s why you travel"
Well that and the foreign booze, drugs and tail.
AmIright?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 18, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Best offer I've had all day.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Dr. T....you scampy old man you!
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
If it was this watch out
for the bad juju.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 15, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Reds Caravan
i’m thinking about going to the c-bus stop and wondered what to expect — is it usually crowded and what is the “format” for it? also, how much before the “start” time should I arrive?
"(T)he day you win a Nobel Prize is the day I begin my research on the drag co-efficient of tassels on flying carpets." ~Dr. Sheldon Cooper
if you search this site
you’ll find several FanPosts from previous years that are “eyewitness reports” of various Caravan stops.
I’ve never been to one, but I gather it is usually pretty crowded.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
ill be covering the louisville caravan stop, btw
for the curious one, the louisville coooouuuuurier…… (wait for it) JOURNAL
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