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If you're managing the Reds in 2010, who gets the majority of playing time in CF, and why?

Assume you're Johnnie B. Baker, Jr., and you're managing the Cincinnati Reds in 2010.  From the looks of it, you have 4 options:

Chris Dickerson

Chris Heisey

Drew Stubbs

Willy Taveras

 

Chris Heisey saw no time with the Reds in 2009, however the other 3 most certainly did.

Taveras - 98 G, 95 Starts, 839 innings

Stubbs - 42 G, 40 Starts, 369 innings

Dickerson - 27 G, 19 Starts, 171 innings (27 Starts in LF, 13 Starts in RF)

 

Offensively, some players produced better than others.

 

Taveras:

437 TPA     .240 AVG     .275 OBP     .559 OPS     34.2 RC     2.82 RC/27     25 SB     6 CS     80.6 SB%

 

Dickerson:

299 TPA     .275 AVG     .370 OBP     .743 OPS     39.1 RC     5.42 RC/27     11 SB     3 CS     78.6 SB%

 

Stubbs:

196 TPA     .267 AVG     .323 OBP     .762 OPS     26.2 RC     5.13 RC/27     10 SB     4 CS     71.4 SB%

 

I'd post Heisey's minor league numbers, but he tore up AA, and then laid an egg @ AAA.  If you really want to see them, then clicky clicky.

 

The reason I chose the above stats is because I think they give us a pretty good picture of a leadoff hitter.  Runs are a teammate dependent stat, since you need teammates to drive you in if you do not drive yourself in, so I chose to exclude them.  While I've never been a fan of AVG, showing AVG next to OBP shows us who has an AVG driven OBP, and who finds other ways to get to 1B without actually getting a hit.  For my leadoff hitter, I care about getting to 1B by any means necessary.  RC/27 is a nice way to show individual offensive production, normalized for a 27 out window, whereas regular RC can be a tad misleading since it's it's sort of a counting stat (as much as a sabermetric stat can be a counting stat), but I wanted to show the total RC as well.

 

Lastly, ideally we want our leadoff hitter to create HAVOC once they get to 1B, no?  I want a guy who swipes bags without creating unnecessary outs, which by my estimation is a successful SB% North of 75%.

 

The final piece of the puzzle is defense.  Prior to the Corey Patterson-era, the Reds trotted out guys by the name of Ryan Freel, Jerry Wayne Hairston, Jr, Norris Hopper, Dewayne Wise, Jason Ellison, Buck Coats, Quinton McCracken, Ken Griffey, Jr (who was awful defensively after 2000), Kenny Kelly, Wily Mo Pena, Jason Romano, Darren Bragg, Jermaine Clark, Mark Budzinski, Ruben Mateo, Reggie Taylor (call me biased, I never thought he was any good defensively), Juan Encarnacion, Raul Gonzalez, Michael Tucker, Donnie Sadler, Kimera Bartee, Brian L Hunter and Alex OchoaMike Cameron in 1999 was the last everyday defensive whiz that patrolled CF for the Reds.

 

Let's compare Dickerson, Heisey, Stubbs and Taveras defensively, for giggles.

Dickerson:

2008 - 1.0 UZR (only played in 7 G, so I won't waste your time with UZR/150)

2009 - 6.2 UZR, 45.5 UZR/150

 

Heisey:

2009 - Made 4 errors in 216 TC between AA & AAA (all 4 came in 146 TC @ AA)

 

Stubbs:

2009 - 7.6 UZR, 28.5 UZR/150

 

Taveras:

2005 - 9.8 UZR, 12.6 UZR/150

2006 - 18.0 UZR, 22.6 UZR/150

2007 - -4.7 UZR, -7.1 UZR/150

2008 - -2.2 UZR, -3.0 UZR/150

2009 - 8.3 UZR, 14.1 UZR/150

 

Word on the street is that defensively the depth chart for CF would be Stubbs, Heisey (apparently like 1 & 1a), Dickerson and then Taveras.  The UZR numbers suggest that aside from 2007 & 2008 (maybe The Virus really did have a leg injury, and that's why he sucked something awful in 2009?), Willy Taveras might actually be the best defensive CF option, but honestly I just don't buy it.  I also don't buy that Stubbs or Heisey is leaps and bounds better defensively than Dickerson.

 

So now let's put it all together.  What would your CF depth chart be if you had to rank these 4 guys?  Look at each guy as a complete player, as opposed to saying something cliche like "I wish I could have Dickerson's bat with the speed of Taveras with the defense of Stubbs or Heisey".

 

Personally, I'd go with something a little like this:

 

Dickerson

Heisey

Stubbs

 

 

 

 

Taveras.

 

What say you, oh RR faithful?

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