Red Reposter - Because We Haven't Talked About Aroldis Chapman Yet!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 11:45 AM EST
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Here is scouting director Chris Buckley's take on Chapman
Basically, he thinks he's a very rare talent. 9 different scouts watched him throw, and apparently they all agree that Crest is the best toothpaste for fighting gingivitis. And they like Chappy too. -
The Fay says the Chapman signing likely means Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo will not be here in 2011
Whether they are traded mid-season or their options are declined, he says "the (Chapman) move seems to be a sign that the Reds are finally going all-in with the young movement after the Scott Rolen detour." -
Matthew Cerrone guesses the Reds may be more willing to move Harang or Arroyo
now that Chappy is aboard.
"This is a guess, but an educated guess nevertheless: It sounds to me like any talks between the Mets and Reds this off season probably involved people like Arroyo or Harang and Phillips; Castillo; a Mike Pelfrey or John Maine; maybe Angel Pagan, since the Reds are looking for a lead-off hitter; and a close-to-ready position prospect, someone like Fernando Martinez."
It sounds pretty unlikely to me as I think though the Reds may want to move Harang or Arroyo, they aren't in a desperate position to do so, as Fay says. They should be perfectly willing to go into April with the guys they have and reevaluate should the team fall out of the race before the deadline. -
The Fay applauds the Reds accountants for finding space in the payroll for Chapman
As we all know, the Reds were working with a very tight budget for this season, so how did they sign a free agent for $30 mil? Chapman's salary for 2010 will be around $1 mil, and his signing bonus, around $6-7 mil, is being paid out of the amateur scouting budget. So does this mean the Reds will have less money to spend on the draft? "Not really," Jocketty said. "We draft lower. We’re 12th instead of eighth. We don’t have a sandwich pick (between the first and second round). There’s still plaenty of money for the draft." This, and the Rolen contract rejiggering, make me very proud of our boy Walter. If no other moves are made this offseason, I will consider it quite a success. -
Speaking of the contract, Shawn has some details of the contract for us
He says "Chapman gets $25.25 million for the next five years, of which $16.25 million is a signing bonus spread over ten years. There is also a player option for $5 million in year six, which is how this is getting reported as a $30 million contract. What is not sure yet is how that payout works: is it $1.625 million each of the next 10 years, or a big part of it now with more payments to come? It is believed that his 2010 salary alone will be $1 million. We may presume this escalates over the five years, totalling $9 million over that time."
Big League Stew wonders if the Reds should be placing the fate of their new prized prospect in the hands of Dusty Baker
He says much of Baker's reputation for abusing pitchers is unwarranted, but it should at least give the Reds pause. Personally, I think if the Reds want to go with a full-on youth movement as The Fay says, then trimming Baker and his "Big Name Manager" paycheck from the payroll should be a top priority. And for the record, I think he's done a fine job with the pitching staff.
Craig Calcaterra wonders if the Reds may move Chapman along faster than we first assumed
"(J)ust as gambling on expensive young talent with an upside represents a competitive advantage for sub-.500 teams with low payrolls, maybe rushing that talent and squeezing as much juice out of them before they sign with the Yankees is a competitive advantage as well."
Pitching coach Bryan Price says his ability to speak Spanish is important
"The ability to communicate is important," Price said. "That goes two ways. Not only do we want Aroldis to have the ability to understand what we’re saying. We want to know what he’s thinking. He’s not coming from a different organization. He’s coming from a different country, different way of life. Having people you’re comfortable with is important."
Jon Heyman thinks Chapman is a "big gamble" for the Reds
He says small market teams (Reds, A's, Marlins, Nationals) saw Chapman as their chance to land a big free agent, while large-market teams (Red Sox, Yankees, Mets) saw him as too risky and preferred to spend (much, much more) money on guys like John Lackey and Jason Bay. Here's an honest question: would you rather have Chapman in his early-mid twenties for $30 mil or Lackey or Bay in their early-mid 30s for 2-3 times more money?
Paul Daugherty says Chapman is a risky move
"The Reds made news, all right: Small market team empties wallet on lottery tickets."
He lists Chapman's ups and downs, but he lists more downs than ups. He says we just don't know anything about him. The Reds saw Stephen Strasburg pitch 20 times before last June's draft, but they have seen Chapman throw live no more than 6 times.
I think Doc's concerns are perfectly reasonable. It's true that he isn't CC Sabathia. He doesn't have a long history of success at the Major League (or even Minor League) level. That's the nature of prospects. But the part that really has me excited is that this contract will NOT hamstring the organization. It's a total of $30 mil, but it's being paid out over 10 years. This isn't a leviathan $12 mil a year contract for a closer we are talking about here. Yes, it's a gamble, but it's not "betting the house on a pair of 8s" as Doc says. Chapman may be just a pair of 8s (or he could end up being a "Rules of Poker according to Hoyle" card), but the Reds still have plenty of chips. That's why I love this deal.
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Doc just saw everyone else praising the deal, and did what he does
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
Yeah, what I can't stand about him
is not that he is usually wrong—that’s every writer’s birthright.
What annoys me is that he is a TERRIBLE writer. His mixing of metaphors, weak analogies, and lame attempts at humor make him almost unreadable.
he does a fine job with football
fwiw
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
A lesser mind
for a lesser sport.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Hey now, watch it bub.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
What I mean is,
Football is not a complex sport to analyze, and the entire ranks offer ready-made quips and reasons for success and/or failure. The story lines are low hanging fruit and guys like Doc thrive in such situations.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think its an incredibly complex sport to analyze
and that’s why nobody does it outside of smartfootball.com and those folks.
I didn’t watch an NFL game all year until the playoffs, and I got so angry at how “obvious” they made things. The bengals announcers were all over the whole “Green goes left, Jones goes right” without explaining at all how their running styles affected the blocking schemes and how that interacted with the Bengals defensive gameplan. THAT would be interesting to hear about. And columnists just contribute to selfsame dreck.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jan 12, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, smart minds and all that.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
eerie.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jan 12, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Football is probably the most complex sport there is
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
What does foosball have to do with any of this?
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
Kick the ball and midfield for 3 hours isn't all that complex
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Jan 12, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's a rec.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Only 2 hours
And another exciting nil-nil draw!
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Undetermined amount of extra time
Will go by faster than the last minute of a basketball game about 95% of the time.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 12, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
It the process as much as the product that makes futbal so cool
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Hate to disagree man.
Soccer’s great and complex but it sure as shit isn’t American football.
You don’t have 3 independent units in American football. :)
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
90 minutes. The ball is round.
I’d argue soccer’s really, maddeningly, simple. That’s its allure
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Santos passes to Johannsen.
Johannsen passes to … aw gee, it rolled out of bounds.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 12, 2010 6:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Favre passes to Berrian...
oh, wait, it hit the ground, now let’s sit around for 45 seconds until they decide they want to play again.
In my sometimes feeble observations,
in baseball, football and basketball, the opportunity exists for something spectacular to happen at virtually any moment of play. That’s not true of soccer.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 13, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Conversely though
Goals are so hard to come by, it often takes something spectacular to make one happen.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 13, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
It can be very complicated.
As a former beat writer covering a college team, I knew I had 20 inches or so at the most to convey the game facts, quotes, what the victory of loss meant, etc. The analysis came in the sidebar and the follow.
Even then, the average fan didn’t want a whole lot of why rolling the safety took away the tight end during specific third-and-long situations.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 12, 2010 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But,
that’s reporting, not column writing. The beef here is with analysis.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly sir.
You are correct. There is a huge, huge, HUGE difference between the two.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Of course.
Columnist often tinker with a bit of everything without mastering any of them.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 12, 2010 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Similarly..
Everyone has an opinion about the near-miss with the ‘Christmas Underwear Bomber.’ Almost no one is talking about how we got our asses handed to us in Khost less than a week later.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
There was no underwear..
(unless you count the bomb that dude was wearing UNDER his clothes)
..but we sure got caught with our pants down.
For those holding out hope that we had a chance to win to the ‘War on Terror’ umm…. we just lost at Normandy.
Asses. Kicked.
Back to the drawing board.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 13, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you Harry Reid.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 13, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
lookin like a fool with your pants on the ground
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
by boobs on Jan 14, 2010 4:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Um, actually, if you do pay attention to football
it is a very, complex sport to analyze. Most people just dont — Doc and most mainstream sports writers don’t either because they don’t understand it or are afraid their audience won’t.
Smartfootball.com is brilliant. From the Cover 2 to the Zone-Read to the brilliance of a Zone-Blocking scheme, it’s all there. And it’s all really smart stuff.
I also have an issue with a fan of one sport dogging another.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
things that are helping my cause:
scarfs
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Jan 12, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh.
Snap.
Rec’d.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Fine, I'm sorry.
I am quite familiar with the sport and its more complex aspects having played at a high level and developing a very personal dislike for it. What I said about the story lines was a critique with the way the NFL presents itself and how the writers help that along.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'll agree with that.
There’s a reason it’s the most popular game in America. It is the most dumbed down.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
/NASCAR'ed
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNRRRRRRRRRRR
brrmmm brrrrmmmm brrrrmmmmmm RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I laughed way too hard at this, probably because I almost made the noises out loud in my cube.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
Now that's clever!
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 12, 2010 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
are you criticizing my spelling of racecar noises?
that kinda hurts my feelings.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
oh
i havent refreshed the page in….a few hours. i usually just leave fast-moving threads like this up on my comp at work so i can check back now and then without re-opening the page. internet here is slow and the load times can be irritating.
but hooray! people like me!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah yeah yeah. Now do a motorboat.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
im planning on it
about 10 oclock tonight. /high five!!
howya been Al? i wanted to get ahold of you about watching the Bengals game, but we ended up having a thing with my wife’s family. we definitely need to arrange a Columbus Gathering though.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I've been saying that for a while.
Let’s get something planned.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 12, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
But now that Chuck said it, it matters! :)
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
Howabout a round-robin Skee Ball tournament?
Dave and Busters in Hilliard?
IIRC most 614 Red Reporters are in the northwestern ’burbs, no?
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
And some Whack-a-Mole?
Is that still a thing?
Weeknights or weekends work best for you guys?
Wednesday, February 3?
I’ll do the FanPost thingy if we settle on something.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Dave and Buster's is good for me.
As far as an evening, Thursday nights are the only one that won’t work.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 12, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
your quip about it in the Lurkers thread is what reminded me.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
how about a motorboat competition?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Featuring Motor Boat Jones?
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 12, 2010 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ha...you is too funny - laugh and laugh again
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Nah, NASCAR doesn't dumb it down as much as the NFL.
They’ll at least try to explain drafting and tire compression and stuff like that.
The NFL will talk about a Brett Favre’s ‘toughness’ after a big play without mentioning that his receiver changed his route, his half back did a great job of picking up the weak-side blitz and that when the guard pulled he stretched the defensive line and forced the line backers to hold.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
It's tough to dumb down a bunch of white guys turning left in front of 30,000 other white folk.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
ahem
100,000 other white folk.
again, you left coasters just dont get it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Look there's a Black Japanese guy in Hitler's Army...see?
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Actually NASCAR fans have the same complaints of coverage.
No one really explain what the technical aspects of the car can do. They have a hard time describing how a quarter round of wedge in the left rear and an air pressure adjustment will make the car feel.
Come game-day it is fairly simple, but the engineering aspects are so beyond most folks, especially the average NASCAR “fan” (read Dale Earnhardt Jr fan)
Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.
Cars are f'ing complicated machines for your average dip.
I wish I knew more, but race cars would seem to be even more difficult to understand.
How a car works, it’s parts, etc would seem akin to talking about blocking technique for your left guard on running plays. I’d love to hear more, but is it practical?
It's more practical than
“Look at Favre, he’s a just a kid out there!”
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
No. He is awful.
His Notre Dame radio work is even worse. He’s awful.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Sad but true
The thing is, it doesn’t need to be dumbed down. But then, how else would ESPN’s 45 “experts” survive. They dumb down the coverage so much that the average fan sees an interception and blames the QB, when most of the time is is a WR making the wrong read on an option route, etc.
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
In a fair world
linemen would be on the cover of Madden and have 80 million dollar contracts. I still can’t believe when a team decides they need a “Franchise QB” not a “Franchise Left Tackle” every draft.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Dilfer proved....
….all you need is a QB who doesn’t F shit up.
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
One of the biggest problems for football fan ignorance is the camera angle.
You can’t see the secondary and the wideouts just shoot off the screen. Unlike baseball where you can pretty much follow the ball (perhaps they could show shifts being put on more) to where it is caught and that’s it.
If i ever get season seats for a football team, I’ll think hard about sitting up where the coordinators sit, everything just develops nicely up there. You can see missed routes, holes open, etc. It’s great.
Similarly...
I don’t really follow hockey but whenever I go to games I almost insist on sitting in the upper deck. It’s the only way I have any chance of understanding what in the name of Tom Glavine is going on.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Good point re camera angle..the average person (with good reason) just wants to follow the ball and waits for the commentators to rehash the play.
The best view of the game is from the field itself at the free safety position. I played there in HS and you could see everything unfold right in front of you. Esp. when the defensive line and line backers would graciously step aside to allow the other team’s 230 lb fullback to get to full speed before I was required to tackle him…
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Best recommendation I've ever gotten concerning football:
Don’t focus on where the ball is. Focus on what is going on around the ball and where it might end up.
Granted, this is very hard to do on telelvision when all they do is follow the damned ball.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
when i was a high school jv soccer coach
i used to sit at the top during varsity games on occasion so i could see the whole field to know what the team was doing right or wrong. it really is better for those rectangular fields.
A big difference
between baseball on TV and baseball at the park is you can see how the outfielders adjust. You almost never see that on TV. All you see is the guy streaking toward the ball once it’s almost landing. Sometimes they’ll show the outfielders playing shallow with a light hitter or something.
At the park, you see how they shift position depending on who’s at the plate and what the count is, the coaches signalling the OFers to move a step left or right, depending on what’s in the scouting book, etc. And you can really see the difference between a guy with good instincts who can read the ball off the bat and a guy who just uses raw speed to chase down balls.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Totally agree
I’d add that you miss a lot with the infielders as well. That’s one of the problems I have withe Fans Scouting defense data – I feel it’s based too much on TV viewing.
but football is all about clutch kicking
and Graham and the Bengals just aren’t clutch.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
If only Brantley were calling that game
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you think Doc's bad, I hope to hell you don't read many other columnists
While I understand the criticism toward Doc, he’s not that bad. LA, Chicago, Dallas and a dozen other markets — especially college-city markets — have columnists that make you want to kill the first living thing you see after you read their stuff.
Is Doc great? No. Is he good? Yes — especially when it comes to his stuff regarding Cincy communities and high schools. But he’s far from terrible.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
No.
Paul Daugherty is terrible. He desperately wants to be as famous as Dan Le Betard and Jay Mariotti so he mimics their piss-poor writing and dissent. He’s not knowledgeable, he’s not a good writer, he doesn’t have an ounce of likeability in his body, and for some inexplicable reason he remains the top dog among writers in this city (then again, his competition is basically John Fay)
If someone told you you looked like Randy Johnson
you would probably take it as a negative
he ugly!
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
He's not an especially attractive man...
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
i bet he still lands women with his dominating personality
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
U-G-L-Y, YOU AIN'T GOT NO ALIBI.......
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
Actually, no.
Daugherty is nothing like Mariotti. Dougherty will write stuff and actually, you know, talk to or confront the person he wrote it about. Jay writes shit without ever going into a locker or talking to someone. He writes from afar, Dougherty at least will talk to his subject and look them in the face.
And I doubt he wants to be Dan Le Betard. Dan Le Betard doesn’t even want to be Dan Le Betard. And if you’re basing your Doc’s writing off of their writing, you’re making my point for me. Those guys, while awful, aren’t even close to the worse in the country.
Everyone always hates their hometown paper and their hometown columnist. But if you stop and look around, you’ll usually realize they’re not that bad.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
He is one ugly sob though
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
I'll admit to a very personal ax to grind here.
Doc is the only major sports columnist in town, I want his job, and I think he’s a talentless, dreadfully dismissive hack. If I actually had the job, people would say the same about me.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I dont' like Doc either
But he is not the assclown of a Jay Marriotti
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Skip Bayless tries to be
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
i say that about you now
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Jan 13, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's only because you have an incessant need to be accurate.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 13, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
What he does with his own family is his business.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 13, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
That's a West Virginia attitude
if I’ve ever heard one.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 14, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thank you
he is an idiot, doesn’t know shit about sports, but thinks he can craft columns with hyperbole and as somebody said above worn out metaphors. When I was 14 I thought he we awesome, but since then I realized he is pretty much a waste of my time. He is unoriginal and isn’t willing to learn no things. Plus he looks down on numbers guys with disdain.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Agree about the numbers
I still recomend you read lots of other columnists before you call Doc an idiot. Misinformed — sometimes, yes. Idiot — no. Plaschke’s an idiot.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Lately he seems to wish he was writing anything but about Cincy sports.
He seems burnt out. But that’s prolly his nature, to be sort of beleaguered, wizened, off the cuff, peripheral.
Outside of UC football, I can't blame him.
Let’s face it, sports in Cincy are kind of crappy right now. Even with the Bengals’ having a good year, it’s a rough time to be a fan.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why you should follow UK
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Nope, OSU alum.
Not a big fan of UK.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, I grew up an XU fan and still root for the Muskies.
The ‘07 OSU/XU tourney game was awful and fun and just about every emotion I’ve ever felt for a sporting event. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Buckeye — and I’ll always root for them ahead of anyone — but I still love the Muskies. I just don’t ever want to have to go through that again.
I wanted the Bucks to win, but XU not get embarrased. I got that, but it was way too close and spastic for my liking.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
As a die-hard XU fan who attended that game
You don’t exactly have my sympathy. :)
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I know.
I wouldn’t expect it, either. My guess is that XU fans dealt with that loss like I took the 2005 football loss to Texas.
It was a close game, Vince Young did his thing, OSU had a chance to win, but ended up losing in the waning minutes — with much thanks to that Justin Zwick.
My roommate and I sat in the dark for roughly a day and half pissed off and depressed out of our minds. That shit still haunts me.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Only sporting event I've actually lost sleep over.
I was at that BYU game, but not the Big One. I thought, ‘Burrell sucked tonight, OSU’s gonna pay!’ How wrong.
I’m pretty sure XU would finish top 5 in the Big 10 every year.
Not this year.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Even on a down year, I think they'd still be around the middle of that conference
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by BK on Jan 12, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
I still question whether they
could play as physical as the BigTen does — with Big Ten officials calling the shots.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think they'd be just fine
All of their forwards this year are the scrappy type, and can play with most teams. Last year, there was only one big man that gave us real problems. (DaJuan Blair from Pitt) I’d say there’s around 5 or 6 Big 10 teams that would give us problems, putting us right around the middle of the pack.
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by BK on Jan 12, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
But the Big 10 already has more than 10 teams
so Xavier would be contributing to the problem of false advertising, just as Marquete, Cincinnati, Louisville, and DePaul contribute to false advertising.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Meh.
I don’t think they necessarily should join the Big 10, but I’d like to see them get out of the joke of the A-10. Personally, my idea is for the Big East and A-10 to merge to weed out non-football Big East schools, but that’ll never happen.
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by BK on Jan 12, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I agree.
The A-10 is hurting X. The problem is that the school is only paying attention to its basketball programs. If XU can improve baseball, track, CC, etc. Bigger conferences will be interested.
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-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Baseball is on the up and up
They made their first NCAA tourney in many years just this past year, and their women’s program is very good as well. They’ll never have the all around sports programs like an OSU, but I don’t see what separates them with schools like Marquette.
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by BK on Jan 12, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
You are correct, I
forgot the baseball team made the NCAA tourney. And that is what will get them out of the A10. I guess I was more referring to five-six years ago when they wanted to get out but couldn’t, because their other programs weren’t as good. Marquette was better than XU at that time. Now, they’re about even. It will just take a conference that wants them.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 13, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'll give you victories against
Indiana and Iowa — those are given. And a win against Penn State is very likely as well. After that, that’s were I have questions. With Turner out, yes, Xavier beats Ohio State, with him in I’m not sure.
I don’t see them beating Sparty, Illinois, Wisconsin or Purdue. Minny, Mich and Northwestern are all questionable.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind
Half of these games would be at Cintas, one of the toughest places for an opposing team to play in the nation. I see any XU/OSU matchups going like you described, especially in C-Bus.
Here’s how I break them down:
Teams XU could beat at home or away:
Iowa
Indiana
Penn State
Teams XU loses to home or away:
Wisconsin
MSU
Teams XU beats at home and loses to away:
Minny
Michigan
Northwestern
OSU (for the sake of argument)
Illinois
Purdue (seriously)
In an 18 game conference schedule, they’d play every team once and 7 teams twice.
Best case scenario, of their 9 home games, 6 of them come from the teams in the 3rd group, and the other three are the teams they can beat either way. Also best case, the three teams they can beat anywhere are 3 of their road games, and Wisconsin and MSU are away games along with 4 from the 3rd tier. That’s a 12-6 conference record, best case.
Worst case, they lose 8 of their 9 road games, and draws the two teams they can’t beat at home for a 8-10 record.
Average the two and you get 10-8 in conference, which is right in the middle.
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by BK on Jan 12, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
And this year's team is as weak as they've been,
or will be, for 4+ years.
When Miller and Matta ran the team, it resembled a Big 10 team throughout. Now it’s headed the way of the ACC thanks to Kelsey and Mack.
It's also wuss-ball.
SEC, Big East and Big Ten all have the ability to bang. With the ACC you have Duke/NC kids flopping at every chance.
ACC=Vaginas of basketball
Yes, I said it.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Vaginas bang too.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhh ...
But you’re assuming the Big Ten arranges the schedule perfectly. They don’t. Never had. Even prior to Penn State joining and the conference having balance, the BigTen set weird conference schedules — one team having more road games, some schools playing one school more than once but only playing another at home.
The Big Ten schedule makers fuck shit up — there’s a belief they do it to make the conference tournament more interesting.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'm assuming there are reasonable schedule makers
But even if they get screwed on schedule, they’d still be around at .500 team in that conference right now. Think of what would happen if they had a big conference to use as a recruiting chip and Mack gets all of his own guys in.
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by BK on Jan 12, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
I contend Xavier's Recruiting wouldn't improve if it moved to the Big 10
Xavier recruits pretty well already, and top level guys don’t want to play in the big 10. (and if they do it because of izzo or matta)
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
I think it attracts 1 recruit per season they wouldn't have gotten otherwise
Which to me is good enough. The quality would go up much more in the Big East or ACC
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by BK on Jan 12, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
They would certainly be a better
draw for recruits than Northwestern, Iowa, Penn State and I could see an argument for it being better than Michigan too.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 13, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
Only if you're talking the Reds.
Bengals had ‘05, Xavier Bball has been good, UC Fball has been fun and Cincy HS Fball is on par with some of the best in the country. The HS Bball ain’t bad either. There’s plenty to write about this past decade — the Reds just weren’t one of them.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
bengals 05 was the same as 09
UC football had one good year and was blown away in the bowl and WTF cares abt high school sports?
miami went to hockey final four and lost.
Actually, no.
Bengals in 2005 was nothing like Bengals in 2009. Yes, the results were the same but the style of play and the caliber of team were very different. Bengals ‘05 was a more ’exciting’ team with a throw-first mentality, a Pro-Bowl QB and wideouts and just enough defense. Had Palmer not gotten hurt, the outcome could have been very different. The ’05 team was and is the best Cincy team since 1988.
The 2009 squad was a run-first, defensive-mind team that played a beneficial schedule in a weak division. It wasn’t even close to the same type of team or style of football.
UC actually had three good seasons — and one could argue five if you include the Dantonio era. They got blown out in their bowl games because they’re the best team in a weak conference and played a bad schedule — that doesn’t mean they weren’t entertaining as hell and a GOOD (not great) team.
As for HS sports, lots of people care about them. Especially in Cincinnati where the city and surrounding area produces an unordinary amount of talent considering the size of the population. Cincy and the surrounding area produces the second most MLB players next to Tampa. It’s high schools are filled with future Div. 1 talents in football, basketball and baseball. And above all, Cincy HS’s win. And by the fuckload.
Here are people who care about HS sports — the schools, alums, parents, students and not to mention those of us that follow college recruiting (Rivals and Scout are worth a shit ton for a reason). When you add that together it’s a huge amount of the population.
As for Miami, yes they lost. But it was still a great season and one hell of a championship game.
Also, I left out the Cyclones. They were Kelly Cup Champions a few years back.
I stand by my statement, it’s been a rough year for Cincinnati sports. But it was one hell of a decade.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
I tried to do some work at Miami Hamilton's library today
I have a paper to write before I go back to Chicago.
Most uncomfortable chairs ever.
A decent University makes their students comfortable, Miami Hamilton’s library is not comfortable, ergo Miami is not a decent university.
More so Miami can blow me.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Comfort is so 2007.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
You should read about how Ghengis Khan lived
you would have made a lousy Mongrel
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
He also ran completely roughshod over the actual creative details of the contract
He just saw the $30MM cash outlay and “10 years” – and didn’t really put them together. The fact that Aroldis is 21 – within striking distance of the majors – and his contract won’t hamstring the budget makes it far from betting the house. The worst-case scenario is that the Reds will have a financial bust of less significance than any major free agent pitcher signing, the blow of which would be blunted over 10 years
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 12, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Add to that the fact that he has extensive pitching experience
I know he’s never wowed us in the Pioneer league or anything, but he did pitch in a tough Cuban league as a teenager, and did decently well in the WBC.
I figure the worst case scenario, barring injury, is that he’s a league average lefty reliever for a few years. In that case he might only be worth 10 million or so. Even still, that’s a worst case scenario and it’s still not that bad.
I don't usually hate Paul, but one thing I think he lacks is respect for his audience.
He thinks everybody’s a stupid yokel he can just spin in circles with rhetoric.
I agree with that, however, with the people
that comment on the Enquirer’s site, I don’t blame him. I think ALL those people are mouthbreathers.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Wait. What'd I miss?
Am I gonna have to read the whooooole thing now?
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm trying to get caught up.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Okay. Done.
(I actually only conquered two Aroldis threads… Did ya’ll know he posted in one of ’em?)
But I still don’t understand your comment. Lil’ help?
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
The Fay posted the contract details as was putting this together
–Chapman gets $1.5 million of his signing bonus when his contract is approved by Major League Baseball, $1.5 million each Nov. 1 from 2010 to 2013 and $1.25 million each Nov. 1 from 2014 to 2020.
–Chapman gets annual salaries of $1 million this year and next, $2 million each in 2012 and 2013 and $3 million in 2014. Within five days of the 2014 World Series, he must decide whether to exercise a $5 million player option for 2015.
–If Chapman is eligible for salary arbitration after the 2012 season, he would get $5 million converted to a bonus and become eligible for arbitration.
–If he is arbitration eligible after the 2013 season, he would get $3 million converted to a bonus and then be eligible for arbitration.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 12:00 PM EST reply actions
Props to the accountants...
They done well.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
true that
this is super creative, and the only way the Reds will have a significant payout is if he’s good enough to deserve it in arbitration.
Me likey. Me likey a lot.
So team control runs out with the contract?
I’ve never understood how this works with international signees. Chapman will be arb eligible on the usual schedule, but he gets to decide whether or not he’ll stay on for a 6th year with the $5MM 2015 option. Seems like the Players Union has it both ways in these cases.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 12, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I thought I read somewhere that if he turns down the option he would go to arbitration again
So I’m pretty sure he’s still under team control that sixth year, it just could be for more if he’s good and chooses arb.
I could be wrong about that, though. Intl. FA contracts could work differently.
They do.
My understanding is that the Japanese players established the precedent by negotiating the arb. years out when the contract expires. That makes it a good deal for them, and lets the team sign them for a lesser rate up front. The idea is that when the dates of the contact run out, the Reds can’t just take him to arb.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I'm wondering about
Since the Japanese players have done this, I’m wondering why Chapman wouldn’t. But it’s not mentioned in Fay’s blurb and it sounds like he’ll go through the normal six-year track. We’ll have to wait and see.
I did a little digging about Alexei Ramirez, who signed a four-year deal after defecting. But I don’t see any mention of whether he’s a free agent after his deal.
The 6th year to me seems (hopefully) non-existant
If Aroldis is even a fraction of what we want for him, he’s gonna get a whole lot more than $5 million. It seems like its just there for him in case something tragic happens. Which, well, won’t happen.
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by Cy Schourek on Jan 12, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Something tragic won't happen?
Allow me to be the first one to break this out in 2010.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
shoot, I've used that picture twice already.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
Spending a lot of time at the shooting range?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
yeah. I can't find them, but I know I have.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
But in the case of that 6th year -
which is a player option – it’s unclear to me whether he become a free agent or not if he declines it. So if he’s really peaking by then, could he go on the open market in an effort to beat what he would have gotten in arb?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 12, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
If he's peaking by then
Then it’s up to the Reds to give him whatever he wants in arb or sign him to a long-term deal right then and there. No matter what happens, I don’t think he picks up that option in any circumstance that isn’t tragic.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
I think he just goes into arb
In which case, I wonder who his “peer class” is: Other FA signings? Other people in their last year of arbitrartion-control? Other international signings who are lefty pitchers with 100mph fastballs and a killah smile? I really odn’t know
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by Cy Schourek on Jan 12, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
the most service time that he can have at the time that decision has to be made
is 5 years. he needs 6 to reach FA, so if he declines the option the Reds can offer arb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Right
I just didn’t know if there was something different about international signings that allowed him to become a free agent at that point.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 12, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
small words, please
Okay, I’m really slow on this. Help me out. Is this right?
The contract is for 5 calendar years; that is, it expires after the 2014 season.
FA comes after 6 major league years.
If, as seems likely, he spends 2010 in the minors, and let’s say he makes the 2011 team out of ST. Then he’s under contract through 2014, and arbitration eligible in 2015 (unless he takes the option). If he doesn’t make the team until 2012, then he has two arb. eligible years, 2015 and 2016.
Is that right?
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
yes
EdE’s contract is the same way, it was a 2 year deal, but he cannot be a free agent unless his controlling team chooses to non-tender him.
Or think of Johnny Gomes. He was signed as a free agent because Tampa Bay non-tendered him, he was free to take whatever contract he was offered, but he was under the Reds control until they non-tendered him this off season.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
i don't think he can be a free agent unless the Reds choose to non-tender him
players have to have 6 years of MLB service time to become free agents on their own free will.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Excuse me for being dense but ...
… density becomes me. Why do we still use Edinson Volquez as a member of the 2011 rotation before he throws a pitch in rehab? Just doing the surgery doesn’t return him to the type of prominence we have anticipated.
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
I think most guys are able to come back reasonably well from Tommy John...
We just need to make sure that he isn’t rushed.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I think because
TJ patients has such a good track record of recovery. Not a guarantee, but it’s there.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
let me repost that
so it stays in the proper group.
We are gambling on a pitcher in the starting rotation. And the insistence that there are no guarantees would suggest maybe not dropping BA or AH off the back of the truck until we’re certain.
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
They drop them with or without Volquez
if they’re out of it at the deadline. They have Maloney, Wood, and a few others that cost nothing.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
plus, if one or both are pitching well, you might be able to get a near ready, low-ceiling starting prospect for one of them.
boxberger and leake
I think there are 10 pitchers that you might talk about for 2011:
Harang, Arroyo, Chapman, Volquez, Cueto, Bailey, Wood, Maloney, Boxberger, Leake
We only have to have 50% come through, and we’ve got a pretty good rotation. 50% is hard, but not impossible. Getting 4 top flight pitchers out of that bunch is not unreasonable.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
i feel like Boxberger is 2013 or 2014
he has a lot of talent, but needs some polish.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Closer than you think
Boxy Brown has a good fastball and can throw 4 pitches. He’s a college pitcher from a good program who could progress quickly. The organization sees him as a starter, so stamina is the biggest thing he needs to work on at the moment, but I think he’s right behind Leake on the fast track to the big leagues.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
oh then i was making shit up
carry on.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
The second part of your statement was accurate, if that's any consolation
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
well i was perfect until now
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
You may be right.
Either way, I don’t think they can get proper value for Harang right now. And I think we’d be hoping that Maloney, Wood, or in a really good situation, maybe even Leake would be ready.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
the key phrase there is "most guys"
We are gambling on a pitcher in the starting rotation. And the insistence that there are no guarantees would suggest maybe not dropping BA or AH off the back of the truck until we’re certain.
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
Perhaps
I’d like to see Cueto and Bailey start to have really good years for a full season. They’re somewhat risky themselves. But the cupboard is not bare in the minors. Leake, Wood, and even Maloney could be solid pitchers at the big league level. Even if we do lose Harang and Arroyo (who are coming up on ages when a decline could be reasonably expected), there’s depth if Volquez doesn’t make a full recovery. I think he will though, particularly by 2011.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 12, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
And 2011 is when we're winning the World Series.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
and when we sign Brandon Webb to a sweetheart hometown deal
it’s really amazing how optimistic i am because of Chappy. feelin’ fine.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
winning the WS
… an overrated event. That’s why the Cubs don’t bother.
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
by johnu1 on Jan 12, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
but my problem is that Volquez is on the “list” of the guys who “will be” in the rotation. If what you say is correct, then we name the guys who will be, and put EV on there with that long list of other guys who have to reclaim a spot. I see EV as being in a position to literally have to reclaim a spot in the rotation, and stop being one of the 4 or 5 we just assume will be there.
We don’t exactly have that Glavine/Smoltz/Maddux event working here.
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
I don't think anyone is saying we do.
But, looking at history, it’s just as likely that the undersized Cueto could blow up his arm this year that Volquez won’t be able to come back at all.
Of course nothing is certain, but Volquez being able to pitch again, in the rotation, is as certain as anything else is with pitchers.
That's okay.
Those guys are too old to be any good now anyways.
I really am confident that Volquez will make it back though. They won’t rush him and he should be fine. The guy’s talent is pretty impressive.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
pitchers who came back from TJ
Tommy John, John Smoltz, Matt Morris, Ryan Dempster, Chris Carpenter, Erik Bedard, A.J. Burnett, Paul Byrd, Todd Coffey, Eric Gange, Jon Lieber, just to name a few.
Yeah there are also some Jose Rijo’s, Williamson’s, and Bensons, who just couldn’t come back to their previous form or stay healthy.
They say that Volquez has a violent delivery, so if I were the Reds I’d probably just hope to get through his arbitration years, and let him be somebody else’ issue when his arm completely blows up.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone got the percentages on successful returns after Tommy John surgery?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I am not sure
they do say failure to return has more to do with post surgery rehab, then the surgery itself.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think you raise a good point, that not all 4 of these projected starters need to be superstars
If we have 3 solid starters in Volquez, Cueto, Bailey, and Chapman, we’re in pretty good shape. A lot of these minor leaguers project to be back of the rotation guys anyway, so if guys like Wood and Maloney end up hitting projections, there’s a rotation. For a small market team, we don’t need to have 5 #1 starters.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
that's 4
but you are entitled to bubbly and enthusiastic. I also hasten to point out that if you look at most MLB rosters, you see the guys we are talking about are trivia questions later on. Oh, yeah … I forgot we had him.
Mike Lincoln, anyone?
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
By next year, even with both guys getting traded, here is our potential starter pool
Bailey, Cueto, Volquez, Chapman, Wood, Maloney, Leake, Klinker.
Now obviously all won’t pan out, but that’s 8 possible guys.
that 8 is nice
naturally, if any/all make the rotation, that gives us leverage. And I also understand that 5 days ago, Chapman wasn’t part of any conversation at all. So that leaves this year’s draft and any deals we might make for Freel again.
It would seem to me that the Reds have redefined the nature of “small market” baseball. I remain enthusiastic in spite of my apprehension.
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
Nobody was in Mike Lincoln's autograph line at Redsfest
True, a lot can happen, and there’s a chance that none of the guys here pan out. But right now I feel the most confident about the quality and upside of the pitchers we have and the depth we have to be able to fill out a 5-man rotation. We’re not talking about Jose Acevedos and Jimmy Andersons here.
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
that makes me feel bad :(
maybe i’ll send him something to autograph for me to make him feel better.
I am going to send him this old clown's arm that I found for him to autograph
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
by Madville on Jan 12, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I've been looking for that
You up for round two, crolf-dawg?
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
In like 1994.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
i was almost in kindergartin when you were born
i’m old
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I was a freshman in HS, possibly a sophomore
obc was just graduating OU, and Madville had just retired.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
I was in Athens.
Had a bong named ‘Regis.’
Rockin’ some Urge Overkill and that band from Seattle…
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
In 1991 I was nailin' skanks.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure if I appreciate this comment
directly under that album cover.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Regis had a Clinton-Gore sticker.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Clinton/Bush
Mediocrity V Mediocrity!!!!
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I was also in kindergarten
Schoolin’ bitches at tetherball
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I know, makes me want to shoo them away with a broom
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
A broom?
Man, you are old-timey.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I had been married 15 years when you were born
I had 4 Children, had just bought my 3rd house, was running an almost $10M a year company…now i spend my idle hours eagerly waiting for your next post oh young one!
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
1991 I was in fourth grade
Collecting Eric Davis, Ken Griffey Jr. and Bo Jackson baseball cards
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 12, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I was either in first or second grade depending on when
you were born. I was rocking the missing teeth look.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Then late first grade.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Late freshman year of HS
Fuggitol, I’m getting old.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
HAH!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 13, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
me too Farns!
i was just getting my year book, marking on all the mouths of kids i didnt like with a red marker to make them look like they had just messily eaten a big plate of spaghetti.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 13, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good to know you have not changed much
This makes me happy. :)
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 13, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Aren't they supposed to teach you how to spell in that grade?
BOOM ROASTED.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
actually i had a learning disability
and picked up reading and spelling a bit slower than my classmates. I have a form of dyslexia, it was caught early enough I was able to retrain my eyes.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
it is okay
through my eye training and extra tutoring with a private tutor and alot of work by my parents, i went from being on a kindergartin reading level in 2nd grade to a 6th grade reading level in 3rd grade.
Ritilin also helped, in first grade I liked to turn my chair over and pretend it was a race car.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
brrmmm brrrrmmmm brrrrmmmmmm RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
brrmmm brrrrmmmm brrrrmmmmmm RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
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by 'tHan on Jan 12, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Nicely played, sir.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 12, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
hey jokestealer
how’s the jokestealin’ business? doin’ well, i see.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 13, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
/Mencia'd
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 13, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think I did that too...
Although they got me on something else… I’ve switched too many times to keep track.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
ADD people organize!!!
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Better Idea...
ADD people! Gather in a pile on the floor!
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Jan 12, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i kinda recognize a young me in you
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Could be worse.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Jan 12, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for your unbridled enthusiasm at this comparison
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
And I a younbg me in you J.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
by Madville on Jan 12, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I tried that line at a college bar last week man, it doesn't work.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
whoooo doggy that is funny
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
No one,
not the Yankess, Sawks, Phillies…no one has 5 number 1’s. A team like the Reds has to work from projections. They have no choice.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
projectiles
all a hot-stove principle. I get it and that was basically what RR and other blogs were invented to serve (well, maybe for me, that is; the rest of you)
So that was the thrust of my lede here, just that we can only project EV in the rotation and maybe should quantify him as “if he rehabs” instead of “when he is back.”
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
Dude...
You’re gonna curse us. If anything happens with EV, I’m blaming you.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
N.T.W.
not to worry; I have the rally cow all excited on my desk. How excited is it? You do NOT want to go there, OK?
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
I disagree 100% with Calcaterra
Small-market teams should hold onto their prospects for as long as possible, making sure they get their peak years out of them. They’re obviously not small-market, but what the Phillies did with Ryan Howard speaks a lot to this: They knew he was ready a few years before they traded Thome, but they also knew they could have him for cheap through his big years.
For example, lets say the Reds drafted a 22-year-old pitcher out of college. He has three years before being put on the 40 man. So now he’s 25. Then you have 3 option years and 6 years of major league time before he’s a FA. So you could conceivably not bring him up until he’s 28-34, if you believe those are his peak years (more likely, 25-31, but its hypothetical, anyways).
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have players at their best on your team? The question, then, is when are players at their best? Defensive studs tend to peak younger, pitchers tend to peak later, and then there’s the whole mental aspect to it (hey kid, you’re pitching great…so you’re spending the next 3 years in Louisville).
Calcaterra is saying draft 18 year olds, bring ‘em up at 20, then when they’re 26, they get a huge FA signing for those peak years you could control otherwise. That doesn’t make any sense to me.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
"would you rather have Chapman in his early-mid twenties for $30 mil or Lackey or Bay in their early-mid 30s for 2-3 times more money"
Uh, am I trying to win? Then, I go with Lackey and Bay. It ain’t my money. If I have no other choice, a la the Reds, then I go with Chapman and tell him I hope he turns his 30 million into 140 million with the Yankees after he shows he can pitch
In the case of Bay I agree with you, even though there's no way he's worth that contract over its life
With Lackey, I would gamble on a young pitcher over an older (mid-30s one) any day of the week, regardless of provenness.
The flame out rate due to injury and or decline of mid-30s pitchers is probably about the same as the rate for stud pitching prospects.
I think it's entirely contingent
on how competitive your team is, as currently composed. If Jason Bay gets you the marginal wins you need to reach the playoffs, his contract might be worth it – especially if you consider the long-term dividends/ fan goodwill of establishing a “winning” franchise. But the preference should be for younger, sustainable players who’ll still be cheap entering their peak years. It’s also a volume business. Several medium-risk / high reward international signings or big draft payouts > paying a veteran free agent the market rate, with a high probability that he’s not worth it in the latter years of the contract and becomes a drag on payroll.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 12, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Better than Owings....
just sayin.
Oh, and when does a pitcher who’s never thrown a big league pitch EVER get projected to strike out 11.3 batters per 9?
i've been way off on my projections before
For instance, I projected John Wall to strike 2 bajillion batters next season.
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
And to win five Heismans in his tenure at UK
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
he's going to win so many Heisman's they are going to start calling them Wall's
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
I knew it took most people more time to graduate from UK, but I'm surprised they let the athletes stay on scholarship.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
did mine in 3
not to brag, or anything. /shines knuckles on shirtfront
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Got mine in 12.
With a staggered-out seven year break nestled between.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I got mine in 4
When I got home, I turned it over.
“This coupon expires in 90 days.”
Suddenly I was stupid again.
Don't try to win every game, just the last one.
What the hell is a bachelor's degree?
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
I had one until I was 27
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
4.5
but only because I changed my major half-way through my jr. year.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
that was dumb
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Not if the newer major was better than the first one
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
that is something a dumb person would say
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
this
from someone who is considering going from history PhD to flight school?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Flight School ?
WTF ?
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
i'll get my MA in history first
and i’m always considering other things, almost all of my peers do the same thing, we wake up some days and wonder what the fuck are we doing, and other days we are happy as clams.
Tomorrow I’ll want to be a train engineer.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Military isn't exactly my style
I have issues with authority…
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Jan 13, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I gotta say
I don’t think I want a dyslexic flying any plane I’m in.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
it isn't really an issue anymore
i mean i function pretty well as a grad student, I have to read several hundred pages a week. I also write a lot, and when I pay attention and proof read I don’t abuse the English language quite so much.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
an issue?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, but
Flying a plane is different. You have to make split-second decisions. And if you screw up, the result isn’t just a funny typo.
Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
i've never had a car accident and I've logged about 100,000 miles
which also includes split second decisions. I mean I realize a car isn’t as complicated as a jet but it takes a certain level of focus and split second decision making to safely drive a car.
Also dyslexia does not creating carelessness or an inability to make split decisions.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying you're intellectually deficient
Just that everyone is prone to disorientation while flying, and it seems being dyslexic would be an even greater disadvantage.
While driving, you never have to disregard your senses and trust the dials on the dashboard. I’d go so far as to say many drivers never even look at their dashboards.
I’m not sure I’d trust myself flying. In high pressure situations, I sometimes have trouble with left and right. Never a problem when driving, because I know what direction I want to go. Interpreting a dial reading…could be a problem.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
that isn't so much an issue for me now
i rarely look at the number 75 and think 57. It is difficult to explain.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
spelling is part of being dyslexic
and while most of my issues have been “cleaned up” through various eye activities, spelling will always be an issue for me.
My mom can’t spell and my grandfather (the pilot) couldn’t spell either.
I don’t have the other symptoms such as difficult reading or difficulty reading out loud, and I write well enough, I do have a few more corrections than my peers, I pay more attention when I am writing a formal paper. Also many of my issues are masked by modern technology. Words I struggle to spell, I look up to make sure spell check didn’t lead me astray.
I mean to get where I am which is working on an MA, at a solid and respected program, in a discipline that heavily relies on writing I have to have decent writing skills.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
i would also be the third pilot in the family
my grandfather flew in the Pacific Theater, my uncle has a private pilots certificate and wanted to join the Air Force, but was color blind.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
The psychiatrist who diagnosed me
has a similar disorder. He made it through med-school. He struggles with grammar and spelling errors when he writes.
To make it through med school one has to be able to make snap decisions while holding life and death in their hands.
This is not an intellectual disease.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Think about what you are saying..I think you are in denial
(or maybe Iowa)…I am extremely dyslexic and a fairly ADD..would you get in a plane that I’m piloting ?
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
are you trained?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
i don't know how you came to get those betty davis knees
but worst of all, young man, you’ve got industrial disease.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
It was.
my first major was all practical application and no theory. I figured that once I got in “the business”, I could learn the practical side “on-the-job” as they say.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
BA in History and Philosophy took 3 years
MA in Phil took 1 year.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
You got an MA in Philadelphia
Wow
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Can we get a ruling please? From either Justi or Andromache? Does it count?
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
I was just joshin' about BAs.
Except for BAs in hard sciences. I’m a still a little skeptical of anyone with an Ars Baccalaureate in Chemistry.
IAN! I'm on traain!
My wife has a BA in Chemistry
and she married me, so your point is well made.
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But from what you've said before, it sounds like she's supporting your lame, unemployed, writing-a-book ass
So she’s got to be otherwise pretty together. Why did she get a BA in chemistry?
IAN! I'm on traain!
We went to a liberal arts school, so a BA was our only choice
I’m not sure why she chose chemistry, except that she was pre-med. She’s wicked smaht and probably the hardest worker I know, so I think she didn’t really have any trouble making the science BA work. She’s also a somewhat artsy person too and I don’t think she would have been happy as a pure scientist. The liberal arts education gave her the chance to take a larger breadth of classes, which I think she appreciated.
Coincidentally, I had just asked her yesterday if she felt having a BA held her back in her career choices and she said not in the least. It probably kept her from getting into one of the top flight med schools (because her grades and experience certainly didn’t), but other than that she’s doing exactly what she’s wanted to do all along. I think she’s the only person I know that can say that. So, she might be an outlier.
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i never understood that
i did four and am kicking myself for going two semesters without taking as many classes as allowed.
well if you have to work
or if you are an engineer, and i know at ONU the only way music ed majors graduated in 4 years was by going overtime.
Some people also make mistakes early on, and drop classes. I dropped a few classes freshman year.
Some people double major, I had to choose between an extra year and a second major in Poli or graduating on time with a single BA in history. I choose to graduate on time, but now I wonder if that was for the best.
Some people feel overwhelmed by taking the maximum number of classes. My fiance is the ultimate perfectionist never got a grade lower than an A- in her undergrad career, and would lose sleep over her grades so she usually took the minimum number of classes required to remain full time so she wouldn’t have a nervous break down.
We are all precious individual snow flakes.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I was a music ed major, and graduated in 4
but took no less than 17 credits in any semester, plus 4 during each “January” term. It sucked.
Since I graduated they made it a 5 year program.
I took 19 credits my 2 semesters at the DePaul School of Music.
Then I fired that university. :)
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
DePaul is a joke of a school
plus it and Roosevelt serve to make Loyola students feel better about themselves.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Do you know anything about the Music School?
Cuz if not, aren’t you just being a windbag hater by calling my alma mater a joke?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
i just know that I am told to feel superior to DePaul students
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
The next time you feel superior to me...
…is the next time you’ll be wrong.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
i can't really consider a school you dropped out of
your alma mater.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
You are an alumnus
once they ask you for money.
And for the record, I didn’t drop out, but rather transferred to a different school with a more intense program, where I graduated valedictorian on my way to becoming a self-made millionaire by age 30.
Good luck with that academic superiority thing.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it may all go to the waste side
i have dreams of going to flight school and flying for a living, but the economy seems to be against me.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
i was going to write
“it may all go to waste”
but i changed my mind mid stream to way side
so it came out waste side
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I read that side waste.
I mean, sideweighs.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Why not?
Lets ee I dropped out of Ohio Wesleyan
Urbana College
University of Wisconsin
and The Miami of Ohio
Depending on the situation I claim all or any as my alma mater..I sure as hell paid enough $$$
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
you dropped out of some fine schools
and Miami.
If I don’t go to flight school I am interested in Wisconsin for my Ph.D.
I considered Ohio Wesleyan, but I decided to go to a city in the metropolis of Ada, OH.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Flight school?
WTF ?
BTW -
Theory and Composition of Music at OWU
English Literature -Urbana
Indigenous American Blues – Independent Studies – U of W
Anthropology – Miami
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
one of my dreams in life is to fly a plane
i’ve had a passion for planes and flying since my first flight when i was 7. Even if I’m not a professional I hope to have a private pilots license.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
i always mock Miami
mostly because all the rich snobby kids from my high school went there. So I reacted by going to an even more expensive school that I will never be able to pay for, because I wasn’t a rich snobby kid, YEAH I WIN!!!!
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
i am a miami grad and don't appreciate your insults
by Daedalus on Jan 13, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they are not particuarly serious
all though Miami Hamilton does need better chairs in their library.
Feel free to insult Ohio Northern and Loyola all the time, I am just as hard on my schools.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
In Soviet Russia
School insults you.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Jan 13, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
It's past my bed time.
I think I’m getting slap happy. Any posts from here on out will probably make very little sense.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
its alright
my posts rarely make sense.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
The McRib is back?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 13, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
green, like the inside of a McRib
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
I no longer like me some McRib.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Jan 13, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's a wreck
of your digestive system.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
Rec'd.
Completely agree.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 13, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
and I think Ohio University is great
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
i also think University of Chicago and Northwestern are pretty all right
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
is that full time students or all students?
because if you aren’t full time it can take 6 or 7 years. Also engineers usually take at least 5.
I got out in under 4, but I also had 19 hours before my first class at Ohio Northern between post secondary and A.P. credits.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if these guys graduated from Florida
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
isnt that the university provost and chaplain
before Spring formal?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you gotta stop the girlie pics in we want Verka to post...
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
That can't be real
Human beings aren’t shaped like that.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
Charlie don't tell me you want some McButt?
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Gonna Take you home tonight
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
I’ve never actually seen Taveras get on base, so I don’t have a real good grasp on how fast he is
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Jan 12, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i don't know
he always made it back to the dugout in short order after weakly grounding out to the second baseman.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
1 green for you
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
it takes 3 recs to green it.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
it already had 2 cuaffle
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by 'tHan on Jan 12, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it only says 2 recs right now
so i am behind on the times you cuaffle bitch.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Don't nitpick, 'than.
He spelled green correctly.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
ok
i was just dying for an opportunity to use the new word crolfer taught me :-)
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goddamnit than
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, justin cuaffled a little there.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
And we all know you have to refresh your cuaffle on occassion,
or else it starts to smell all boysenberry.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
damnit i should have read further down the page now i look like a plagiarist
i wish we had a delete button
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Jay Bilas says
The fastest player in the country with the ball in his hands, Wall is more explosive and more efficient than Derrick Rose was in his rookie season, and so far, he has been every bit the same winner.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4818431
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
I wonder if the same guy took both of their SAT exams
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
He probably would get on base more
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
With four million dollars you could even get a couple strong virtuous women.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Aroldis is almost to second base already.
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I can see he's enjoying his "Welcome to the Team' gifts from Bronson
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Hopefully
once he gets that first check, he’ll upgrade a bit.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
Maybe..
..but it could be that if you’ve gotta taste for strippers with dreads, ain’t no thirty million dollars gonna change that.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
tell me about it
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
he really doesn't
Looks much happier and more relaxed in the photos from the presser.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Huh. Go figure.
"Why do socks have to match?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
He also has signed a contract at that point...
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
yeah, but
People in that situation tend to look about as comfortable as someone posing for a mugshot. Even if it’s a happy occasion, the attention is a bit overwhelming.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
"Scott Rolen Detour?... Just as long as it doesn't dump you onto Pete Rose Way, baby."
"Why do socks have to match?"
Nah,
I think after his playing career ended he just let himself go.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I see that picture
and can’t help but think of the movie Cobb.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
I can see he's enjoying his "Stay the hell away from the Team" gift from Bronson
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
Gotta love Mets fans!
I have to believe the Reds are no closer to trading Harang/Arroyo than they were 3 weeks ago:
- Volquez is still recovering from TJ surgery; while he says he’ll be ready by July, the Reds would be better served if he didn’t rush his rehab. The new thinking is it takes 18 months to fully recover.
- Chapman, god-like as he is, still hasn’t thrown a pitch to a MLB player. Everyone seems to think he needs to work on both command and at least one more good pitch, and that he’ll start in AA.
Those two things make the rotation Cueto/Bailey/Maloney/Owings/Wood without the two veterans. That’s not a fear-inspiring rotation.
And stop with Castillo already! Why do Mets fans think other teams are falling all overthemselves for their dross?
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
Braves headed to the World Series this year?
Eric Hinske, the human good luck charm, signed with the Braves.
It seemed his streak as a good luck charm was sure to end when the Pirates signed him last year…but they traded him to the Yankees. The streak lives on.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I don't love the parameters of the contract.....
as much as I like the signing itself.
A straight 5year/$25mil contract would have provided the opportunity for some cost savings that his actual contract doesn’t give us due to the bonus structure. On a standard 5/$25 contract, if he breaks camp in 2010 with the Big club, his first 2 arbitration years would be bought out. Under Chapman’s contract, he still gets those salaries ($5mil total) as a bonus, PLUS his arbitration award in those seasons.
And, more likely, if he is up at the beginning of 2011, we’d have his first arb year bought out with a straight 5/$25 contract. But, with Chapman’s contract the way it is, we owe him his $3mil salary as a bonus, PLUS his first year arb award.
Not a huge deal. If he pans out, he’ll still be a pretty big bargain. But, not quite the contract I would like to have seen.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I'll take $3M or $5M added on to his arbitration number for one year
followed by 1 or 2 more years of arbitration. Worst case scenario is that he hits arbitration on this schedule but isn’t all that good. I doubt the Reds let it get to that though as I’m sure they’d send him down to prevent it from happening. And if they don’t send him down, it’s probably because he’s kicking ass. I’m not all that bothered by the structure. I think it’s creative and gives incentive to Chapman to be a bad ass right now.
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HOLY COW!!!
Lane Kiffin is leaving Tennessee and taking the USC job.
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
Dumb
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Leach!
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
As long as Pinkel stays put at Mizzou
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
i didn't know his problem was that severe.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
you must have the same problem
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
go to aa
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Up all night singing... um.
What is USC’s fight song again?
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
So Evan Turner's mom was just on ESPN
I sat next to her on a Southwest flight from Midway to Columbus. She was a nice lady and is very proud of her son.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
she is the nicest person in the world
we talked for most of the flight, which i rarely due with strangers.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
that's awesome.
i’ve never been so lucky… once i sat next to dave chappelle but he blatantly ignored the only comment i made to him.
My grandma met him... And he was really nice.
And my uncle worked with him at one point- said he was a great guy when he wasn’t high.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
i've heard that from a lot of people too so i won't hold it against him.
just a little uncomfortable for me.
well i didn't know who he was until we she told me she was his mom
we ended up talking about the plights facing African Americans.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Good Job tOSU
You both beat Purdue, and got the game over with before the Kentucky tipoff!
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
They have Dickie V and Erin Andrews on this game?
That’s not a good idea is it
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Also, ruh roh
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
GO FLORIDA!!!
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
My sister has Bones on...
I hope the main characters get kidnapped by aliens.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
JAM!!!
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
there it goes
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
people are dumb
can’t live in a CGI world, folks.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
it sounds like
The problem is as much dissatisfaction with the way we’re destroying our environment as admiration for the fantasy one.
They probably just need to get out more. IMO, a lot of depression, etc., people suffer is due to not spending enough time outdoors, with nature. We evolved to be outside, and if you spend all your time inside watching TV or on the computer or Nintendo, there are going to be problems.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I can't remember numbers off-hand
but we did a study at the camp where I interned, and it’s been shown that more than 75% of kids spend less than an hour outside a month. That, to me, is appalling. I realize that where I live is more of a hick town, but there are 4 or 5 state parks within 1/2 hour of driving time.
My point is, I agree with you.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
I mean spend less than an hour
in outside activity. Also, that was during the summer months.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
I'm not surprised
So many families these days are single-parent, or have both parents working. No one has time to take the kids to the park. Long commutes mean you don’t have time to get to know the neighbors (and your kids don’t get to know the neighborhood kids).
And people are afraid to let their kids play outside unsupervised.
I know people 50-60 years old who remember going to baseball games on their own when they were kids. They’d either go over after school, or go when school was out, their moms packing them a lunch and giving them some popcorn money. My mom would never have let me do that, and these days, you’d probably be accused of being a bad parent if you let your kid go to the ballpark alone.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
you're probably right.
The social landscape is one of the things we talked about as a camp staff. We endeavored to have a safe outdoor environment where parents could feel secure sending their kids for a week, knowing that they could let their kids experience life away from tv, video games, etc.
Man, I miss camp.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
I almost never see pick-up games anymore.
We were outside whenever we could be, playing baseball, football or basketball, going fishing, riding bikes, whatever. We never worried about being abducted by some pervert. If we got into trouble, we knew our folks would know about it by the time we got home because the neighbors actually talked with one another in those days.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 13, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
my parents let me play outside
but there were only like two other people my age in my neighborhood.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
people who worry about perverts really worry me
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 13, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Loved that movie.
Have not experienced any thoughts like that.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Mike posted. "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in ‘Avatar.’ "
And, there will be talking unicorns with lollipops protruding from their butts after I blow my brains out. There will be Smurfs perfectly willing to perform a stage version of “Singin’ in the Rain” in the blue buff. There will be a giant Santa Claus that makes it rain Raisinettes. Hell, there will even be an octopus that plays teatherball (but you can beat him, don’t worry). That’s what’s gonna happen when I pull that trigger .
by Pops Daniels on Jan 13, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
oh man
i just saw The Road last night. ripped my total guts out.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 13, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I don't want to see the move
Only because the book was soooooooooooooooooooooooo good…I’m afraid it will be a let down, the move that is.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
not at all
i was worried about that myself, but it was incredibly faithful. do yourself a favor and go see it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
It must be a hell of a good film.
How long is it?
I mean could I do a double feature of “the Road” and " Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" just to have a really fun filled evening…Of course I’d lead off with ESOTSM with Road hitting cleanup.
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
it was a shade over 2 hours i think
it wasnt overly long. it moved pretty briskly too, considering there isnt much action.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
one and done
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
I would hope so
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
oh no a team that wants to be too perfect
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
really we have a lexas ad?
people on RR can afford lexas’s?
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
As can our newest commenter, Aroldis Chapman
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 12, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
guddam it justin made me go all nucular and now people's all knowin in my bidness
Where’s that delete button?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
that's alright petey
i’ve seen enough pictures to know you have a good life :-)
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Petey
I don’t wanna go back and find it, but you made some reference in a movie quote discussion to admiring someone’s fashion sense, particularly their slippers. I couldn’t place it, but I was watching this movie and that scene JUST HAPPENED. Whoa.
Interestingly, I was also thinking about how Jordan reminds me of Daedalus, and Laslo reminds me a little bit of Gray.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 13, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Indeed
And it turns out that skateboarding legend Stacy Peralta plays an astronaut in a very brief role in this movie. Amazing!
Not sure of any skaters in our community, but dougdirt BMXs, so that’s who I’ll associate with that character.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 13, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
i got me a Hyuandai Elentra
although it mostly sits in my parents driveway as i can’t afford to keep it in Chicago.
Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Volquez; the future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
I got me a '94 Camry...just turned over to 200,000 miles
Incompetents invariably make trouble for people other than themselves.
Larry Mcmurtry
My uncle had a mazda that he put a cool mil on.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Hey, who the heck is this Chapman guy we supposedly signed?
And why don’t we have a thread about him?
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
by ZJiff30 on Jan 12, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
That's a grand idea.
Does anyone know what kind of a hitter he is? :)
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I heard he's lazy and walks back from the dugout
Trade him
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
Does he have a mopey, hole-riddled glove?
I now know where Andorra is.
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Judging from the pic above, he'll swing at anything
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
I'm just here to say...
that I don’t understand why more cities don’t have places that combine Ethiopian food with delicious, often Belgian-style beer.
I kind of love Minneapolis because of this…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I don't care for Ethiopian food.
And I like most food.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 13, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
It's okay, he has a bunch of Ethiopian friends
And he discussed social inequities with regard to race on an airplane once.
" 'than's pussy looks better than your cock." -- BubbaFan to ZJiff30
by jch24 on Jan 13, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BOOM! Brilliant.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 13, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
That would make one of us
"look at me! im hablahing espanyoll!" - Charlie Scrabbles
by BK on Jan 13, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
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