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Scott Rolen's Team™ or Small Sample Size?

Scott Rolen has been the center of attention for the Reds recent run of remarkable results.  Is it warranted?

by Al Behrman - AP

Scott Rolen has been the center of attention for the Reds recent run of remarkable results. Is it warranted?

When the Reds traded for Scott Rolen on July 31st, Walt Jocketty said he "felt that there are a lot of things that Scott will provide this club that we thought was lacking -- leadership on the field with a position player."

Since Scott Rolen came off of the disabled list on August 23rd after suffering a concussion, the Reds have gone 12-3 and it's looking like Jocketty was right about Rolen's influence on the roster.  Bronson Arroyo doesn't want to go anywhere else now that Rolen is around.  Brandon Phillips credits Rolen with helping him become a better player.  Heck, even the USA Today Crossword puzzle found him worthy of a clue.

It's hard to argue with the results, right?  I mean, check out this 15-game stretch by the offense:

PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS SO BB AVG OBP SLG
614 536 86 159 25 3 20 78 15 6 82 52 .297 .362 .466

Pretty impressive, isn't it?  And it wasn't all just the offense.  During that 15-game stretch, the pitching staff had a 3.68 ERA, striking out 110 and walking just 47 batters and allowing only 13 home runs.  It's arguably the best stretch the Reds have played all year.

And Scott Rolen had nothing to do with it.

The numbers above are from the 15 games that the Reds played from April 28th to May 13th when they went 10-5.

The fact is that 15 games isn't enough to tell us about the true quality of a team.  Sure it's information, but it's only a small slice.  The team that put up those numbers above is basically the same team that hit .234/.300/.375 over the 68 games that followed that 15-game stretch. 

Is Rolen an improvement to this team?  Yes.  Has he helped them win 80% of their last 15 games? Absolutely.  But as most historians will tell you, it's hard to assign meaning to events as they are happening, especially when those events are just a small subset of the bigger picture.  Let's not assign too much meaning to one player, lest we lose track of the issues that need to be addressed to actually make this team a contender.

After the jump, I'll post the team's numbers for the most recent 15 games for you to compare.  Also, I'll point  to a player who may actually deserve the credit for being the straw that stirs the offensive drink.

Star-divide

Reds offense from 8/23 to 9/7
PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS SO BB AVG OBP SLG
615 539 73 147 29 2 19 71 11 8 121 60 .273 .349 .440

The pitching staff has had a 3.23 ERA over the last 15 games, striking out 113 and walking 64 while surrendering 18 home runs.

I think it would be an interesting study, if someone can figure out a way to do it, to see if there is one player or one batting order spot that as he goes, so goes the offense.  If I was looking at batting order, my first guess would be the lead-off hitter.  It seems like if your first hitter is getting on base a lot, then your offense should be churning.  However, it could be the 4-hole hitter.  Look at Brandon Phillips' numbers for the two 15-game stretches we've looked at today:

Stretch PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS SO BB AVG OBP SLG
First 58 53 10 21 5 0 5 20 1 2 5 4 .396 .431 .774
Second 66 63 7 24 5 0 2 10 4 1 3 3 .381 .409 .556

By no means is this definitive, and I'm not completely sure that you can't find 2 or 3 other players that have done the same thing on the Reds during these stretches.  It is undeniable though that Phillips has torn the cover off of the ball and at the same time the offense was chugging along as good as it has all season.  The question is, which came first?

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Scott Rolen's Team™

aka: the DL Dandies

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 8, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm crafty, eh?

Gawd I had this part of the season…

She said, "You don't even buy me presents." Yeah I did. I bought you a box of chicken but I ate it on the way home.

by Slyde on Sep 8, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then you lost it?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Sep 8, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gawd I hate my typos

She said, "You don't even buy me presents." Yeah I did. I bought you a box of chicken but I ate it on the way home.

by Slyde on Sep 8, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I don't even notice them.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Sep 8, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm currently helping Paul Daugherty with his next column.

It’s about how the Reds would be in first place if Rolen had been playing third base and Taveras were healthy all season. It’s going to be titled “Dusty and I Told You So.”

by Brian B on Sep 8, 2009 2:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

by the way

i have no clue what’s discussed around here anymore, but did you guys see that rolen went on his own last night, following philips, and that we can’t lay it on dusty?

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Sep 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, he's our smartest baserunner.

But did you read that somewhere?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Sep 8, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah it was in the ap story

like here

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Sep 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for those who don't like to click links or wade through type...
After Gomes flied out, the runners attempted a double-steal with Darnell McDonald at the plate. Chris Iannetta threw to second rather than third, catching Rolen for the second out of the frame. With Phillips at third, Morales struck out McDonald on the next pitch to end the game.

“There wasn’t a steal sign, but Brandon has a green light,” Reds manager Dusty Baker said. “Scotty had a big lead and followed Brandon. They went and got the trail runner, which was very astute on their part, and they closed out the game.”

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Sep 8, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"very astute on their part"

or “very stupid on Rolen’s part.”

She said, "You don't even buy me presents." Yeah I did. I bought you a box of chicken but I ate it on the way home.

by Slyde on Sep 8, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rolen's got big tree-trunk thighs

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Sep 8, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and a pretty mouth

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 8, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like Julia Stiles

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 8, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a screen grab of her where her mouth was a perfect open circle and she looked like an inflatable companion.

It was sumthin. Wish I still had it. She looked soooo fake and plastic…

"He's bending over, trying to rub it out." - Dodger broadcaster Charlie Steiner, speaking of Brandon Phillips' calf cramp.

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 8, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there's more...
The Reds had two on and none out in the ninth, but Morales got Jonny Gomes to fly out, and then Scott Rolen was thrown out on the back end of a double-steal attempt.

The Rockies were ready for just such a scenario.

"I don’t want to sit in my dugout and be surprised," Tracy said. "I want to be prepared. We had a plan of attack."

That blueprint included throwing behind the lead runner, not going after the speedy Brandon Phillips, who was trying to steal third.

Still, it took a sensational scoop by Clint Barmes to pluck Chris Iannetta’s throw from the dirt and tag out Rolen.

via this place

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Sep 8, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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