Thursday Off Night Open Thread
I had hoped to do a Red Reporter After Dark show tonight, but my schedule is getting in the way. Alas, we'll just have to settle for the traditional open thread. Here are some questions to get you started:
- Based upon what you've seen so far, and assuming these are the only choices, who should be the starting center fielder for the Reds on Opening Day - Willy Taveras, Drew Stubbs, or Chris Dickerson?
- With the Reds for all intents and purposes out of the race, who are you rooting for to make playoffs this year? Are you hoping to see any specific players that you'd like to see or is it teams themselves that you are rooting for?
- Who should be in the Reds 5-man rotation right now (not counting pitchers who are injured)?
- If you could sign Matt Holliday or trade for J.J. Hardy, but only one or the other, which would you do? I'll let you determine the terms of the deals that would be acceptable to you.
- What is the one sporting event in history that wish you could have seen live? What is the most memorable sporting event you actually attended?
- Which 9/9/09 release item are you more excited about, Beatles Rock Band or The Machine by Joe Posnanski?
If you are watching the Bengals game tonight, might I suggest giving some love to Kirkendall, jsl413, and the rest of their crew at Cincy Jungle?
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I'm looking forward to seeing both Stubbs and Dickerson in Spring Training...
I just don’t want to see Taveras ever again, let alone starting in CF.
And I don’t mind a rotation of Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Bailey, Owings. I wish someone could explain to me why Owings is not an option all of a sudden. If there really is a decent reason, I wouldn’t mind seeing Travis Wood in the mix next year. I suspect he’d be a much better option than Maloney or Lehr. Of course it wouldn’t surprise me if the Reds sign one of those guys to a major league contract this offseason.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Sep 3, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant 5-man rotation right now, as in over the next week
but your answer is a good one anyway.
She said, "You don't even buy me presents." Yeah I did. I bought you a box of chicken but I ate it on the way home.
by Slyde on Sep 3, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap, I forgot that Harang is on the DL.
I guess I could try to play that off as thinking ahead to next year, but yeah…I just forgot.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Sep 3, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the shout out Slyde
I’d prefer Stubbs in CF to start the season. Dickerson is a great bench bat that can play anywhere in the outfield.
I’d take Hardy over Holliday for salary reasons. Boras is going to want money the Reds can’t give up. Otherwise, Holliday would be the answer in LF, and would do wonders for our lineup.
I think the rotation is fine as long as it includes Bailey (limited to 105) and Cueto (limited to 90) for th rest of the year. I don’t think Cueto should be shut down. He can continue to improve, even if he’s on a limited pitch count.
I don’t think the Micah Owings experiment is going to last much longer.
by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No more Willy
Stubbs is the man in CF for the foreseeable future. Dickerson should be in the mix in LF-4th OF next.
I’m interested to see if Gomes comes back, I’m open to it. They may decide to go with Balentein, instead. I think Nix is done.
by CBJMarty on Sep 3, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rotation
with the young (Bailey and Cueto) and fragile (Cueto) arms that are up, I would consider a 6-man rotation, but I’ll go with:
Arroyo, Cueto, Bailey, Lehr, Maloney
with pitch counts on the youngsters. we have Owings, Ramirez and Wells as long relief guys in the ’pen.
by CBJMarty on Sep 3, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the more pertinent question is WILL willy T start.
Will Baker be allowed to start Willy by management and the media?
Dusty Baker said it was the first [triple play] he’d seen in person. When he was with the Dodgers, they hit into one, but he was in the bathroom.- C Trent
by The Crushinator on Sep 3, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We ask the question...
but we all know the answer.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Sep 3, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am excluded from the Burgertime Patrol and now no 'After Dark' ? Why even go on...
* Based upon what you’ve seen so far, and assuming these are the only choices, who should be the starting center fielder for the Reds on Opening Day – Willy Taveras, Drew Stubbs, or Chris Dickerson?
Based on a very small sample size I would lean towards Stubbs. But as we’ve seen with Jay Bruce and others (Dickerson included) a good run in September doesn’t always mean a great start in April/May. Unless Stumps has a stellar spring I’d go with Nix, he has the range, the arm and the bat. If Stubbs blows the lid off then by all means its him in CF. Dickerson is a great backup.
Stubbs in CF
C-Dick and Gomes (More Gomes than C-Dick ) in LF
Bruce in RF
I see no starting role for Balentien, however even money says Wiley’s the CF starter in April
* With the Reds for all intents and purposes out of the race, who are you rooting for to make playoffs this year? Are you hoping to see any specific players that you’d like to see or is it teams themselves that you are rooting for?
I don’t give a rat’s ass as to whom makes the playoffs.
* Who should be in the Reds 5-man rotation right now (not counting pitchers who are injured)?
Arroyo
Bailey
Cueto
Lehr
Maloney
* If you could sign Matt Holliday or trade for J.J. Hardy, but only one or the other, which would you do? I’ll let you determine the terms of the deals that would be acceptable to you.
Sign Holliday. I’d be willing to give up Gomes/Ballentien/Maloney/Rameriz/Dickerson…some of those guys and some prospects…LeCure maybe. If you get Holliday and he performs like he’s capable of …it doesn’t matter if Jannish only hits .240/290/325. You don’t need so many OFs…you’re free to dumps some of those guys or trade em. An Outfield of Holldiday, Stubbs and Bruce with C-Dick/Gomes on the bench would be Major League.
* What is the one sporting event in history that wish you could have seen live? What is the most memorable sporting event you actually attended?
The 1999 Women’s World Cup at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California – ![]()
Most exciting event I was at was Game #2 1976 WS Reds VS Yanks – Billingham on the mound.
* Which 9/9/09 release item are you more excited about, Beatles Rock Band or The Machine by Joe Posnanski?
I guess the Machine
Although it will be interesting hear the digital enhancements of the Beatles’ recordings.
Really neither of these events are as exciting to me.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
by Madville on Sep 3, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mads
I knew this was you halfway through. You’re a legend, sir.
Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.
by SullivanSmith on Sep 3, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am but a shadow to your emerging greatness, Oh Funny One
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
by Madville on Sep 3, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm bored
Stubbs
Braves
Arroyo Cueto Bailey Owings Lehr
Hardy
Mays’ catch/i got to see an NFL tie last year, yay
The Machine
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
by jch24 on Sep 3, 2009 6:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
* Based upon what you’ve seen so far, and assuming these are the only choices, who should be the starting center fielder for the Reds on Opening Day – Willy Taveras, Drew Stubbs, or Chris Dickerson?
Stubbs iunless he bombs in ST. If that happens then CDick.
* With the Reds for all intents and purposes out of the race, who are you rooting for to make playoffs this year? Are you hoping to see any specific players that you’d like to see or is it teams themselves that you are rooting for?
I honestly won’t know until the playoff get real close or begin. i usually pick the underdog/great story and ride that bandwagon.
* Who should be in the Reds 5-man rotation right now (not counting pitchers who are injured)?
Arroyo, Bailey, Cueto, Owings, Lehr
* If you could sign Matt Holliday or trade for J.J. Hardy, but only one or the other, which would you do? I’ll let you determine the terms of the deals that would be acceptable to you.
I’m really diggin’ Janish at SS … so Holliday, but it’ll never happen.
* What is the one sporting event in history that wish you could have seen live? What is the most memorable sporting event you actually attended?
Any Bristol night race …
IU vs. Mizzou at the new Mizzou Arena a couple of years ago. IU led the whole game then lost it at the end. That was the day i knew my dad had switched from IU to Mizzou for good. It was a good game.
* Which 9/9/09 release item are you more excited about, Beatles Rock Band or The Machine by Joe Posnanski?
I don’t read and am not spending more money on a song pack when my Rock Band 2 disk is just fine … Patiently waiting on Forza 3.
"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay
by joshuar9476 on Sep 3, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tv is playing baby einstein, and it's the other kid's birthday
but I’m checking in on fangraphs and mlb.com.
i would not have tagged velez to go deep. this game could end 1-0.
by bbjones on Sep 3, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
asdf
* Based upon what you’ve seen so far, and assuming these are the only choices, who should be the starting center fielder for the Reds on Opening Day – Willy Taveras, Drew Stubbs, or Chris Dickerson?
Drew Stubbs. Home runs or no home runs.
* With the Reds for all intents and purposes out of the race, who are you rooting for to make playoffs this year? Are you hoping to see any specific players that you’d like to see or is it teams themselves that you are rooting for?
Texas. ‘Cause if they make it, the Red Sox don’t. ![]()
* Who should be in the Reds 5-man rotation right now (not counting pitchers who are injured)?
Eh. I can’t even remember who’s injured and who isn’t.
* If you could sign Matt Holliday or trade for J.J. Hardy, but only one or the other, which would you do?
I don’t want either of them. I’ll take Heisey, Stubbs, and Bruce in the OF, and Janish at SS (at least until Cozart is ready).
* What is the one sporting event in history that wish you could have seen live?
Andre Agassi’s Wimbledon championship? Super Bowl 28? The “Miracle on Ice”? Bubba Crosby’s first start as a Yankee? Tough one.
* Which 9/9/09 release item are you more excited about, Beatles Rock Band or The Machine by Joe Posnanski?
The Machine, I guess. Not really a Beatles fan.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sure, you say the announcer is a blabbermouth
But how about some stats?
Via The Fay: The WSJ counted the number of words spoken by baseball announcers, to find out who the chattiest were.
George Grande was #4:
Mr. McLaughlin drove up his word count with a riff comparing Albert Pujols to Babe Ruth (based on how many extra-base-hits each player had in his first 500 at-bats), as well as expressing the opinion that Chris Duncan, a former Cardinal, was cut too quickly by the Boston Red Sox.
Apparently, announcers for bad teams feel an urge to fill dead air. Trailing Mr. McLaughlin was the Nationals’ Bob Carpenter at 102.3 words per minute, the Reds’ George Grande (102.1) and the Diamondbacks’ Daron Sutton (100.4).
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
two cents
Chris Dickerson
A Red Sox/Cubs world Series
Harang, Arroyo, Bailey, Cueto, Owings
I thought CW here was that Holliday sucked. He sure aint doing much for the Jays lately.
One I wished I would have seen live? Lou Gehrig’s speech. Actual event? 4192. Most memorable? the EE walkoff clutch home run.
The Machine, by a mile. Im a big Joe Pos fan.
"Plain and simple, I wake up in the morning and piss excellence"
by obc2 on Sep 3, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Answers
Based upon what you’ve seen so far, and assuming these are the only choices, who should be the starting center fielder for the Reds on Opening Day – Willy Taveras, Drew Stubbs, or Chris Dickerson?
Stubbs
With the Reds for all intents and purposes out of the race, who are you rooting for to make playoffs this year? Are you hoping to see any specific players that you’d like to see or is it teams themselves that you are rooting for?
Hobbs and the Rangers.
Who should be in the Reds 5-man rotation right now (not counting pitchers who are injured)?
Arroyo, Bailey, Owings, Maloney, Wood
If you could sign Matt Holliday or trade for J.J. Hardy, but only one or the other, which would you do? I’ll let you determine the terms of the deals that would be acceptable to you.
Hardy’s my guy. I’d give up Arroyo and 2 prospects for him.
What is the one sporting event in history that wish you could have seen live? What is the most memorable sporting event you actually attended?
Istanbul, Liverpool v. AC Milan, 2005 UEFA Champions League final.
Second round, 2006 NCAA tournament, OSU vs. Xavier (the infamous Greg Oden game)
Which 9/9/09 release item are you more excited about, Beatles Rock Band or The Machine by Joe Posnanski?
The Machine, because I don’t have Rock Band. Guitar Hero Van Halen will be better than both.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Sep 3, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
best VH song?
discuss…
"Plain and simple, I wake up in the morning and piss excellence"
by obc2 on Sep 3, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
best VH song?
the sound it makes when i run over OU812 with my car.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey now
Van Halen Fair Warning was one of the first 3 8-Tracks I bought when I was 13.
My parents had just told me they had done extensive research and that I could throw away my record player because the 8 Track was here now and would last Forever.
So from that 8-Track I would nominate “Unchained.”
For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P1d8BVvY-I
by davidmac84 on Sep 3, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best VH song?
Best?
Without You? Unchained? Humans Being? Jump? Panama? Dreams? Eruption?
My favorite is probably Dreams
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 3, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely Panama
but Livin’ in Paradise had the best video, hands down.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 4, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Really Got Me still Gets Me
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
by Madville on Sep 3, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Panama
there’s no discussion there
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Sep 3, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
easily it is panama
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Sep 3, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything produced by Ted Templeman
by Brendanukkah on Sep 3, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Eddie! More Alex! More David! More of that other guy!
I’m producing the fucking shit out of you cocksuckers!!!!
She said, "You don't even buy me presents." Yeah I did. I bought you a box of chicken but I ate it on the way home.
by Slyde on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guitar Hero VH would be a lot better
if it covered all of their material, rather than just Diamond Dave
Would it kill them to include some Van Haggar as well?
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 3, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't the best joke, but come on!
No love for Cherone?
by Brendanukkah on Sep 3, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you're best known for...
… More Than Words w/ Extreme, then perhaps the joke is on Gary Cherone and you, sir.
Although, Without You is one of VH’s best songs, IMO, but I completely forgot Cherone was on the vocals, so I guess the joke’s on me!
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 3, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Than Words
while not a rock song, I guess, is a really, really well written pop song — one that wouldn’t look out of place among the other great popular songs of the American songbook from tin pan alley and the Brill building.
Srsly.
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Sep 4, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't Talkin' About Love
Christ, that opening guitar riff is face-melting
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Sep 4, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*bout
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Sep 4, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I listened to "And the Cradle Will Rock" this morning
“Have you seen Junior’s grades?” Chungchungchungchungchungchung!
by Brendanukkah on Sep 4, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I weren't such a coward
I would assign long passages of DLR’s Crazy from the Heat to my composition students.
Economy of style!
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
by Man Mountain on Sep 4, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 Questions/6 Answers
1. Dickerson
2. Red Sox/Rays/Twins/Rangers & Phillies/Cubs(just so they can choke)/Dodgers/Giants
3. Arroyo/Bailey/Cueto/Owings/Ramon Ramirez
4. JJ Hardy, b/c we need a SS more than we need an OF, although Holliday is a stud OF, but Hardy’s more of an upgrade to us @ SS than Holliday’s an upgrade to our OF.
5. Wish I would have been live to watch Bolt go nuts on the 100 and 200 last month. I saw Javy Valentin’s MLB debut as a 3B @ Yankee Stadium.
6. The Machine, b/c the Beatles suck.
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 3, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm going on to wrigley on teh 12th to see our boys take on the cubs
ebay is awesome.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Sep 3, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Platoon Dickerson and Stubbs, write Tavaras off.
Cards
Roro/Rangers/Homer/Lehr/Lecure
J. J. Hardy, 4 Janish, Bruce (hes still a prospect, right?)
First night game, first MLB night game that is.
I enjoyed RR day at GABP pretty well
Honestly, Neither will cross my path
I’m not sure that last one was a question?
by Excalib8 on Sep 3, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 cents
Stubbs, no way the front office puts Tavaras on the roster again this year. If they do, there is no way the marketing department lets him take Dusty’s job.
Rays/Phillies/Cards
Arroyo/Bailey/Cueto/Lehr/Maloney then Wood when AAA is over
Holliday, I am think that Hardy would demand a Frazier + type package.
by Dave from Louisville on Sep 3, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brewserinos have too many infielders including some nice guys at AAA who are going to be minor league FAs next year. Hardy will be traded for pitching.
by ol Pete on Sep 4, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No love for the movie 9?
Come on, Jennifer Connely is doing the voice acting!
And anyone watching Boise State-Oregon? There were like, 4 turnovers in the last 5 minutes.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Sep 4, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And a full-out rampage by LeGarrette Blount!
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
by ZJiff30 on Sep 4, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was crazy
But I wonder what the Boise player said.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
by jch24 on Sep 4, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that he also tapped him on the shoulder...
but still.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Sep 4, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something caused him to go completely apeshit
Seeing as he shoved his own teammate and almost went Artest when leaving. He seemed contrite in his postgame interview (which I was surprised he gave), so maybe he won’t get a big smackdown. I dunno, the way he spun and swung all at once just makes me wonder.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
by jch24 on Sep 4, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd be surprised if he's still on the team tomorrow
no matter what caused him to react like that, that was a really frightening display. pretty sad, actually.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 4, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing he's probably gone too
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
by jch24 on Sep 4, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris has performed well for an entire season
Almost…
Stubbs has had a VERY uneven start with a low OBP and a terrible Taveras-esque K/BB rate.
Based on performance, I’d rather see a platoon. There is no way a .258 EqA at Triple A indicates Stubbs is superior to Dickersin’s .360+ OBP in the actual Majors.
As for Willy, I’d bet my life savings he IS the starting CF next year, despite the fact that he’ the third best option in the organization (and maybe 4th with Heisey hanging around).
by timb116 on Sep 4, 2009 9:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Answers - the final word......hehehe
Based upon what you’ve seen so far, and assuming these are the only choices, who should be the starting center fielder for the Reds on Opening Day – Willy Taveras, Drew Stubbs, or Chris Dickerson?
Dickerson………….the book is out on him and he continues to adjust. He is our best defensive CFer………but why not platoon them since they each bat from the opposite side?
With the Reds for all intents and purposes out of the race, who are you rooting for to make playoffs this year? Are you hoping to see any specific players that you’d like to see or is it teams themselves that you are rooting for?
Boston and Philly…….I hate the Yanks, Dodgers, Cards, Cubs
Who should be in the Reds 5-man rotation right now (not counting pitchers who are injured)?
Arroyo, Bailey, Lehr, Maloney, Wood
If you could sign Matt Holliday or trade for J.J. Hardy, but only one or the other, which would you do? I’ll let you determine the terms of the deals that would be acceptable to you.
Hardy is overrated. Holiday is a no-brainer except that we can’t afford him.
Which 9/9/09 release item are you more excited about, Beatles Rock Band or The Machine by Joe Posnanski?
The Machine
by Dude Rock on Sep 4, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A Third Option...
“Based upon what you’ve seen so far, and assuming these are the only choices, who should be the starting center fielder for the Reds on Opening Day – Willy Taveras, Drew Stubbs, or Chris Dickerson?”
I vote None of Above.
by tonywf on Sep 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just curious
Who’s your preference?
by Brendanukkah on Sep 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dickerson
….if only because he’s the one in that group who looks like he has a clue about how to get on base. Naturally, that makes him Enemy No. 1 to Dusty Ten Cent Head. Still not sure about his D, though, since he seems more like a left fielder. The biggest problem with Dickerson, though, is that his career has only just begun and he’s already at prime production in age, which means his learning curve will be much shorter. But hey, anyone, anything has to be better than Taveras, Stubbs, and Corey $&#!@%* Paterson.
by tonywf on Sep 7, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy
I may have missed something in recent weeks, but we traded David Weathers to Milwaukee for a player to be named, right? Did we receive a player yet or could we still use that trade to pull in Hardy and maybe hand over another minor leaguer to the Brewers. Right after the Weathers trade Hardy was sent to the minors, so the Brewers obviously don’t have them as their SS next year.
by BrandonF on Sep 4, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Except
Every GM in baseball (except for Wayne Krivsky) knows that it’s stupid to trade everyday position players for relief pitchers. We’d need at least one or two prospects to get Hardy, and Milwaukee is looking for a SP as well. And, apparently a CF.
Then again, if we can get them to go for that, I’d be absolutely thrilled.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Sep 4, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the way it works is
that the teams decide before making the trade who those PTBNL candidates are. then after a pre-determined period of time or whatever stipulations are agreed upon, the accepting team picks which of the candidates they want. sometimes they do this so they can wait until after the season as to avoid the waiver process. but most of the time it is done so the accepting team has more of a chance to scout the players on the list. or in this case, i bet they just called it “PTBNL or cash” because it’s such an insignificant move that the Reds really dont care what they get back. they can figure it out later.
all that said, Hardy would have to have been on that list, and i seriously doubt the Brewers would make that deal. and if he were indeed the PTBNL because of the waiver thing, i would guess we would have heard something already. someone in the Brewers FO or the Reds FO would have dropped a load in their britches and did the “anonymous source” dance with the media. because that is fucking insane.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 4, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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