Turns out 5 days is one too many. Reds blow lead in the 9th and lose 4-3.
by Slyde on Sep 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT
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Homer Bailey. 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 8 K. Seriously, who else should it be? Dude deserved the win.
Key Plays
- With two outs in the 3rd inning, Drew Stubbs singled and stole 2nd base. Drew Sutton followed with a single to drive in Stubbs, which drew applause from the crowd.
- Other than that, the game was quiet until the Reds 8th inning. Sutton led off the inning with a triple and the scored on a base hit by Joey Votto, giving the Reds a 2-0 lead.
- Dusty Baker felt it wise to bring in Francisco Cordero for the 5th day in a row. Not surprisingly, it wasn't. Chris Coghlan led off the inning with a low line drive to left field that Wladimir Balentien lost in the lights, allowing Coghlan to reach first. After a Nick Johnson line out, Hanley Ramirez singled and Jorge Cantu doubled, scoring Coghlan. A ground out by Dan Uggla pushed the tying run across the plate with 2 outs.
- The bleeding didn't stop though. John Baker singled to drive in Cantu. Cody Ross followed with another bloop single and Cordero's night was mercifully over. Brett Carroll doubled off of Jared Burton to drive in the 4th run of the inning, a run that ended up being the most important one.
- Juan Francisco ate his first major league sized child with his first career home run in the 9th inning, but the Reds went meekly in the 9th after that as Kevin Barker and Jay Bruce both struck out and Drew Stubbs lined out to right field.
via FanGraphs
I hate graphs that look like that.
Other Notes
- The loss is the first loss by the Reds this season in a game in which they took the lead into the 9th inning. They were previously 57-0 in those games.
- The loss ended the Reds 8-game home winning streak and 4-game overall winning streak.
- You can use vinegar and baking soda to get that musty smell out of towels. Don't use laundry detergent or fabric softener.
- Juan Francisco is the 7th Reds player to hit his first major league home run this season. Name the other six.
- The Reds reach 80 losses for the 9th consecutive season. They must win 13 of their last 14 to not have their 9th straight losing season.
- This was Homer Bailey's 6th straight start with 114 or more pitches.
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Jim Day just said that neither Saturday's nor Sunday's games are on TV
giving the fans what they want
Definitely a good argument.
Other six first time homers
Sutton
Stubbs
Tatum
McFlurry
Harang
Rosales
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Actually, I didn't have to.
I checked on Rosie to be sure, but I had them all typed in first.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
I know a lot of useless crap, but that might be over the line.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Actually, I don't believe any were.
But I cheated and looked those up.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Slyde, you made the right decision on Homer
that is a beautiful line and I feel like the bullpen just flushed the Mona Lisa down the toilet. Cordero should not have been.
We were going to lose again, but it seems like this should not have been the game.
I was all ready tpo be happy for Homer, Sutton and Votto! The Bullpen and Dusty took that away from me. As a result I’m in a terrible mood.
The other games aren’t on TV? I have to listen to Brantley! I just won’t I suppose.
At least Votto got two hits (I can hold on to that bright spot).
hard to blame CoCo for this one
That 57-0 record after 8 star is pretty amazing if you think about it.
Much better to blame Dusty, and I believe I clled this in the pregame thread
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
by nycredsfan on Sep 18, 2009 11:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Fay
says Dusty used CoCo because he didn’t have a choice.
Francisco Cordero won’t be closing tomorrow. Nick Masset is probably out too.
"I’m not sure what we’ll do," Dusty Baker said. "That’s what happens when you play 17 days in a row and you start winning."
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
what about Herrera?
Janish wa son the bench! If you think your pithcer can’t pitch, use someone else. Dusty is so frsutrating
What's weird about this
is that he acts as if there are absolutely no other reliable arms in the bullpen. I’m not sure why Rhodes couldn’t have closed the game last night. He’d only thrown 9 pitches the day before and had not pitched the two days prior to that. Herrera hadn’t pitched for 3 days and has thrown 19 pitches in the last 10 days. Carlos Fisher hadn’t pitched for 4 days. I understand that Masset and Cordero are the top two bullpen arms, but that doesn’t mean they are the only ones that can get 3 outs before giving up 2 runs. Eventually there are diminishing returns on a pitcher who has thrown so many days in a row, to the point that his expected level isn’t any better than a fresh reliever in the pen.
And it’s not like people would have criticized him for not using Cordero. Anyone could easily see that pitching him 5 days in a row was probably a bad idea. Dusty’s strict adherence to roles throughout the team is perhaps the most frustrating thing about him.
Definitely a good argument.
I think almost all managers
have a tendency to glom onto certain bullpen pitchers for certain situations.
But what’s annoying about this is that the Reds are just playing out the string now. It’s not like the post-season is hanging on this game. Maybe Rhodes would have sucked. Maybe we’d have found out Danny Ray should be a lefty specialist. So what?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
it is pointless to blame him
I smelled this coming last night. It just really stinks for Homer and Cordero said that as well.
It is never pointless to blame Dusty
I blame him for healthcare situation and the economy as well as the swine flu pandemic
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
What are the odds...
that if the Reds are up by 1 tomorrow, that Coco gets the call again?
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
Closers close, goddammit!
Just like CFs bat first and SSs bat second.
RR: Proud home of the most mods in SBNation.
It might be the case that we got some good breaks the past few games
such as that wild pitch, but this was a really tough break. If Cordero had only given jup the lead, Juan Fancisco could have got us to extras.
I just won’t think about it anymore. The more you consider he ways this season could have gone right, it just gets that much more unpleasant.
Homer’s good, and the Drews’ combined for one run. That combined with Votto’s 2-4, RBI night is all I will remember from this. There will be plenty of other games to remind me of how bad a manager Dusty is.
This season reminds me of '89
The year before the 90’ World Championship.
Why? I remember Luis Quinones and others getting tons of playing time as the starters were injured most of the season. The following year, everything came into place, including the starters and experienced backups.
Just saying.
We are getting our replacement or possible future starters, tons of experience…….and we are getting our minor leaguers and bench tons of experience.
We have seen how this team performsm with the starters. They’ve just been injured too much.
and our CF is on pace to win the silver slugger and the gold glove
and he made the All-Star team, and we all just love him to death!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 19, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
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