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Just Like They Drew It Up. Reds Win 7-5 to Break 5-game Losing Streak.

Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Drew Sutton. Sutton only saw three pitches all day, but that was enough as his 2-run pinch hit double in the 9th inning was the difference for the winning squad.

Key Plays

The story of the day today was base runners, as in the Reds had 21 of them when you add up the 10 hits, 8 walks, and 3 errors by the Cubs.  Thankfully, they managed to get some hits today with runners on base, going 5 for 13 with runners in scoring position. 

  • The Reds put their first two runs on the board due to the Cubs fielding incompetence.  Three errors in the 3rd inning allowed the Reds to load up the bases and score a run before Brandon Phillips singled in a second run to put the team up 2-0.
  • The Reds added 3 more runs in the 4th inning after Adam Rosales and Drew Stubbs singles put runners at 1st and 3rd.  Darnell McDonald followed with one of his two hits on the day to drive in Rosales.  Joey Votto did the same to drive in Stubbs.  Consecutive walks to Phillips and Scott Rolen put another run on the board and the Reds led 5-0.
  • While all of this was happening, Johnny Cueto was cruising right along, allowing just 1 hit and 2 walks through the first 5 innings.  He ran into trouble in the 6th though, walking lead-off hitter Ryan Theriot and back-to-back singles Derek Lee and Aramis Ramirez, the latter scoring Theriot.  Geovany Soto ended Cueto's day with a double that plated Lee and moved Ramirez to third base.
  • Daniel Ray Herrera relieved Cueto but allowed a sacrifice fly to score Ramirez and a walk and was replaced with Ramon Ramirez who induced a flyout from Jeff Baker to end the inning.
  • The Cubs rallied again in the 7th a walks to Kosuke Fukudome and Lee put runners on 1st and 2nd with one out.  Nick Masset came to the game to face Aramis Ramirez who promptly singled to load the bases.  Masset struck Milton Bradley out, but then gave up another double to Geovanny Soto.  Both Fukudome and Lee scored, but a nice relay from Stubbs to Paul Janish to Corky Miller nailed Ramirez at the plate, preserving a 5-5 tie.
  • The 8th inning was quiet on both sides, and it looked like the Reds would stall out in the 9th as Rolen grounded into a double play after a Phillips single.  However, 2-out walks to Jonny Gomes and Kevin Barker left the door open for Drew Sutton to be a hero, and Sutton didn't disappoint.  His double into right field plated both runners and gave the Reds a 7-5 lead.
  • Francisco Cordero made quick work of the Cubs in the 9th, throwing just 9 pitches in a 1-2-3 inning.

 Other Notes

  • The win today still leaves open the possibility that the Reds could finish this road trip with a split.  As bad as they played during the 5-game losing streak, a split would feel like a freaking miracle.
  • The Reds had 10 different players reach base via a hit or a walk.

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Drew Sutton

The run producer Dusty’s been looking for?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

after Sutton's double my roommate kept saying

“i can’t believe, I just can’t believe it, a .176 hitter, hit a 2 RBI double off of Marmol. He just kept shaking his head and saying that that. It was awesome.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Sep 12, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s funny. Marmol reminds me a lot of Turnbow.

by ol Pete on Sep 12, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

EYE WITNESS REPORT!

So i bought some tickets on ebay, and sit in the upper deck well down the third base line, but unlike the last time I was there, a poll was not obstructing my view.

There was a nice contingent of Reds fans there, I think a few of them were there simply because they decided to go to the U-2 concert, but still it was nice to have other fans cheering with me, especially with the hell on earth that are Cubs-Reds games in Cincinnati.

I totally called Soto’s double before it happened, I even new where it was going to land, except I called a bases clearing double, but Rameriz was gunned down at the plate, so I am not a witch.

I feel like todays game is a microcosm of the Cubs over the last 100 years, they get close enough to get their fans excited, and then break their little hearts.

I can’t remember the last time I saw the Cubs lose in person, so that was nice.

HEY CHICAGO WHAT DO YOU SAY, THE REDS ARE GONNA WIN TODAY.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Sep 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

One question

why did Dusty let Rameriz start the 7th, why didn’t he just turn it over to Masset, on the idea of 7th-Masset, 8th-Rhodes, 9th-Coco?

Also why did he make a double switch to then remove Masset from the game?

Bloop

by justin007000 on Sep 12, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Dusty needed to burn a few more relievers.

So in case we went to extra innings, Janish would get a chance to throw a few.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 12, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

today was just a great day to be at the ballpark

i’m in a pretty good mood, I think it is because Wriggley is beautiful, today is beautiful, and the Reds won.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Sep 12, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I am becoming a fan of Drew Stubbs

BUT…I don’t care for him as the lead off batter.
As the season wears on and I think especially into next year MLB pitchers are going to find his weaknesses more and more and just like J-Bruce he will be a strugglin’ for a while. I wouldn’t mind seeing Bruce put in the lead off position for a while and be instructed to work on improving his AB approach.
Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be anyone on staff to help these young guys make the transition from good/great AAA hitters to good/great MLB hitters.

It is also unfortunate that Ditsy will want Wily Taveris back in the leadoff spot ASAP.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Sep 12, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I see

young Sutton is doing what they all do when they escape Louisville.

Grow facial hair. Because he can…

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

he looks better with the facial hair

so I’m thinking it’s a good thing. That and it obviously helped him hit a double bcause the impressive stubble distracted Marmot (I know that’s not his name, but I think it’s appropriate)

by Red_Poodle on Sep 12, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meanwhile

It’s a barnburner in Louisville.

Bats leading, 8-7 in the 8th.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

ground rule double and a sac fly

Make that Louisville 10, Durham 7

Heisey walks, Bruce up next.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, bruce can play in the playoffs?

wha? just because he’s on rehab he can be on the Bats playoff roster?

Why not send down Votto and Coco too? It’s not like the major league games mean anything. Let ’em crush in the AAA playoffs, then come on back up.

by bbjones on Sep 12, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone said

that the rule is the same as for the big leagues. As long as they’re on the roster by August 31, they can play in the post-season.

I’m not sure if that’s true, but I do know the Yankees send their rehabbing players to whatever minor league team is still playing. It seems really unfair to have AA kids facing All-Stars from the big leagues in the minor league playoffs, but of course, the point of the farm teams is to support the big club, not to win minor league championships.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 13, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

the point of the whole system is to make money, assuming you are the owner. If your MLB team is drawing 7000, and your AAA team is in the playoffs, you might well make more money by sending the allstars to go nab a championship.

I agree, though — if your goal is a fair system, rather than a profit-maximizing one, it seems a bit unfair.

by bbjones on Sep 13, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think it works that way

the major league teams dont actually own the minor league teams. they have contracts with them, so they can farm out their players to those teams. if the bats win a championship and earn a million dollars, the reds dont see any of it.

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Sep 13, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how it works

I wish I did. It must be pretty complicated. The major league team doesn’t own the name or the stadium, obviously, because the teams play musical chairs in the off-season, and leave their old names and ballparks behind.

But the major league team pays the salaries for players and coaches. They talk about “purchasing the contract” of players that are called up, but who actually gets that money? The owners of the minor league team? Or are they just moving money from one pocket to another?

That is…I think the major league team must have some stake in their minor league teams, and that might include a share in ticket sales.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 13, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

that is share revenues from ticket sales, but I don’t know for sure.

by ol Pete on Sep 13, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's complicated

From How Stuff Works:

The Professional Baseball Agreement that binds the majors and minors was set to expire at the end of 1990. Under that agreement, the majors provided significant support for the minors. The majors proposed a reduction in those subsidies, claiming that the minors were healthy enough to pay more of their operational expenses. On the other hand, minor league clubs resented what they perceived as attempts to take financial advantage.

After the dust settled, most minors gave in, fearing they couldn’t survive without players provided by the majors. Under the new agreement, the majors would still pay most of the operational expenses, but minors were now required to pay a share of their ticket revenues to the majors, forego their share of big-league TV revenues and meet newly established minimum standards at their parks.

But the minor league teams do get support from the big leagues. The big league teams pays player, coach, and trainer salaries, and all travel expenses. The minor league teams give away bobbleheads of the big league players, which helps fill seats, and they get a cut of sales from the gift shop, which often includes big league items.

I’ve even heard of teams that own local hotels and split the revenue.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 13, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can't just send your stars to the minors

Veterans have the right to refuse. With youngsters, you may regret burning an option just to win a minor league championship.

And you can’t put major leaguers on the DL and send them to rehab if they aren’t actually injured. Well, the Corky Millers on the roster might agree to it, since that’s better than being DFA’d, but the real stars would not.
 

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by BubbaFan on Sep 13, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bats win

10-7.

That means the series is tied, 2-2. Tomorrow’s winner goes to the championship.

Likely against the SWB Yankees. They’re leading the series 2-1, and leading tonight’s game (which was probably rain-delayed, seeing as they’re only in the 3rd inning).

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

He wants an eyewitness report from yesterday’s game?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been busy, it'll be around tomorrow hopefully

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Sep 13, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

also my beerman said he was drinking with dick pole last night

apparently dick pole goes to the piano man bar after games.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Sep 12, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got back from St. Louis

Went on a brief road trip up there to see some people. I think I brought a losing streak to the Cards, though. They dropped two to the Braves, one 1-0.

Nice to see a win, here though. I’m also glad to see, in addition to Sutton’s gamewinner, that Votto had RBI in both games. I also read that Jonny Gomes hit another homerun. That guy is great.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 12, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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