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Hal McCoy out at the DDN

Don't know if this has been posted yet, or if you guys have seen it, but apparently at the end of this season, his 37th, Hal McCoy is done at the Dayton Daily News. As a newspaper guy myself, it's even more disconcerting to see them dropping like flies — I know it's economics, but cutting coverage isn't exactly the way to build readership. I know Hal had passed "up there in years" a long time ago, but the guy was still one of the best, and his writing was incredibly down-to-earth and approachable, like a well-spoken guy telling you baseball stories in a bar.

Sad, sad day. I always loved reading his stuff, and, of course, we'll all miss those quick second innings when he's in the booth.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/08/06/the_hammer_fell_today_and.html


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Ouch

I grew up in Dayton, and Hal McCoy was just as responsible for instilling the love of the Reds in me as Marty and Joe. He’s a Hall of Famer undeniably, and watching the Reds next year just got less enjoyable.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 6, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy crap

That’s really sad. Though he’s lucky he’s old enough to retire, rather than try to get another job.

Did it really cost the DDN a quarter of a million dollars a year to send Hal to cover Reds games?

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by BubbaFan on Aug 6, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

that doesn't sound that crazy

lets see…
Plane tickets, they may pay his luggage overages, they provide him with a car and driver for all the home games he covers, hotels, per diem, and I am sure there are other costs, plus his salary.

I have disagreed with him, but I like his writing style, and he does an excellent job of writing game recaps. I was starting to wonder what was happening, because the DDN stopped sending Neggle to cover games when Hal was off.

I am sad. In 2007 the Reds had 3 independent beat writers, in 2010 they will have 1.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Aug 6, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if it might go down to none

How’s the Enquirer doing financially?

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by BubbaFan on Aug 6, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Newspapaers are not long for this world

At least not as we’ve known them…

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 7, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had a good run

I didn’t grow up with him and frequently disagreed with his points, but agree with your description of his writing. Tough break. I’d feel much worse for him if he was 20 years younger, though.

They just can’t afford the more than a quarter of a million dollars a year to send me coast-to-coast.

They really should consider just keeping the beat reporter at home. The clubhouse stories are nice but if they’re cut in half, the final product won’t be appreciably worse imo.

by ken on Aug 6, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

He was a joy to read

What I liked about his story recaps was that he really tried to find out what made each game unique. I wish that he had done more with stats but all I really need to remember about his coverage was how much he loved the game.

If you're not having fun, stop participating.

by redandblue on Aug 6, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

He was required reading in the obc household

Hal always replied to emails that i sent him and i consider him a total class act. He will be missed greatly. DDN had an amazing run for baseball beat writers, one which may be unprecedented…

Best wishes to Hal and his family. Bud Selects, diets and cokes, and Hudy’s are clanking your gin and tonic glass this evening, sir.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Aug 6, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Three Hall of Famers, right?

Si Bureck, Ritter Collett, and Hal? Sad to see them have to scale back their coverage. In related news, I talked to my dad tonight and he said that Dayton was hosting a Dying Cities Convention this week. Great.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 6, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was just named one the nation's 10 most likely cities to die.

I don’t know who named it so or what they mean by ‘die’…
But there’s no question that Dayton is in terrible economic and social distress,

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 7, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they meant

most likely to get wiped out by a CGI natural disaster

/day after tomorrow’d

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Aug 7, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hall O' Famer Hal

is the best writer covering this team in any capacity. His opinions may not have always been popular ones, but they were always an interesting read and nobody covering this team can present them better than he can. You’re the best, Hal.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 6, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

he is my favorite to listen to in the booth

i hope we will continue to see him around

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Aug 6, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

couldn't resist could you?

Best of Luck Hal

Slyde you need to get on your horse and recruit him. He definitely needs to start his own blog.

by Dave from Louisville on Aug 6, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too soon.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 6, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is sad, and it will probably only get worse

You’ll be sorely missed, Hal. I may not have always agreed with you but I ALWAYS respected what you had to say.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 6, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Be seeing you Hal,

and no, I’m not rubbing it in.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 7, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

DDN should hang it up.

Hal was the only reason to read that gawd awful paper. even though i haven’t read the actual paper in months, i always click to see what hal has to say.

by GrooveLeg on Aug 7, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Replying to a bunch of comments above....

I agree Hal was the only person worth reading at that paper. I’m guessing this is a prelude to the whole paper folding.

It would make sense, if the paper is surviving, to just send him to home games. That wouldn’t cost much more than his salary and he could still get really interesting stories and keep his finger on the pulse of the team. I think The LotD did that with C Trent last year.

Hal is the best beat writer covering this team, and seemingly was the only one to ever get scoops on trades and moves. I’m convinced Fay read his blog to figure out what was going on…….and at least Hal’s blogs were spelled correctly.

We’ll miss you, Hal. (Slyde, call him today. We want him as blog chancellor)

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Aug 7, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I'm overstating

to believe that Hal’s retirement will be the most important event in the 2009 Reds season.

If you're not having fun, stop participating.

by redandblue on Aug 7, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless Dusty gets canned

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just downright disturbing

You gonna actually get your beer one day or am I gonna have to drink it and blame the dog?

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 7, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you've had that beer for what, a week?

My wife just got back into the country, so I should be able to meet up some time to receive the goods.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Aug 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beer doesn't last long around me. You know this.

Doesn’t matter, really. It’s sitting in my basement, chilled to wonderful 65 degrees or so.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 7, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zee goggles, zay do nothsink!!!

Trully terrifying. And for that, it gets a rec.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 8, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it wrong thatI'm curious as to who that body belongs to??

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 9, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm interested to know anyone can guess

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Aug 9, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guesses:

1. Serena Williams
2. Oprah

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oprah is correct

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Aug 9, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

rarely

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Aug 9, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

it's photoshopped?

I thought that was just Dusty’s daughter

by Cy Schourek on Aug 9, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I didn't grow up reading Hal, and I don't recall ever reading it online

I can’t really feel sorry for him though. He’s of the age that he can retire and enjoy life. However, if he wants another job, it shouldn’t be too hard to find. He does have the words Hall of Fame on his resume after all.

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Aug 8, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

He might be able to get a job as a NL replacement umpire...

He’d be better than most of what they got now

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 8, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone else notice

the nights are out on the DDN sports blogs since yesterday? No Ask Hal, no updates from Sunday’s game yet, and nothing from Chick Ludwig on the Bengals front either.

i think Hal took the high road, and was a total class act re: announcing his “retirement”. Nobody believes it was his decision to walk away but he spun it like that to protect his employer. My hunch is that the DDN is a little huffy that Hal announced it in the manner he did (which i thought was tremendous).

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Aug 9, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

couple of NY Times articles on the future of journalism

Seattle Paper Is Resurgent as a Solo Act

It’s about the Times, but it’s what it says about the Post-Intelligencer that I found interesting:

Oddly enough, what remains of The P-I is also faring better than expected. The Hearst Corporation kept the paper’s Web site alive as a news operation with a small staff, heavily reliant on more than 200 unpaid bloggers who write on things as diverse as their neighborhoods, cooking and marathon running.

Industry analysts called it a long-shot experiment, but SeattlePI.com has kept most of the reader traffic it had as a newspaper site. Hearst will not say whether it makes money, but it says that audience and revenue are ahead of projection.

Then there this:

Lament for a Dying Field: Photojournalism

Newspapers and magazines are cutting back sharply on picture budgets or going out of business altogether, and television stations have cut back on news coverage in favor of less-costly fare. Pictures and video snapped by amateurs on cellphones are posted to Web sites minutes after events have occurred. Photographers trying to make a living from shooting the news call it a crisis.

In the latest sign of distress, the company that owns the photo agency Gamma sought protection from creditors on July 28 after a loss of €3 million, or $4.2 million, in the first half of the year as sales fell by nearly a third.

A lot of pro photographers are irate, because sites like Shutterstock and iStockPhoto.com sell a photo for $.25 when they used to get thousands of dollars. But I think more and more photo editors will turn to such cheap online stock image sites as the economics worsen for publishing.

And for photojournalism, it’s probably worse. News photos are now coming from ordinary people who just happened to be in the right place at the right time, with their cell phone camera or credit-card sized point and shoot. It was a tourist on a sightseeing cruise that captured the moment of impact when that plane and helicopter crashed over the Hudson River.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 10, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

The medium is the message.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 10, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

J'Accuse, ESPN

for the death of small town sports sections all throughout the south, due to the new restrictions on how to cover SEC football games on ESPN channels. (h/t: Doctor Saturday)

The real victims here, as noted above, will be the traditional, small-market media types who actually need to earn a living from game coverage without the assistance of a large-market newspaper or TV network but risk losing their access altogether if they turn to other means.

One could say the same thing about what they’ve done for, well, every other sport, as well.

From a purely academic standpoint, one of the utmost tenants of research is the sharing of information. You allow your work to be borrowed, as long as everyone knows it’s borrowed from you. I think its just too bad that the same doesn’t go for sportswriting: ESPN has its people, and the rest can go to hell.

by Cy Schourek on Aug 10, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Christ on a cracker

No picture-taking? Good luck with that.

And no noise-makers? Okay, those thundersticks are obnoxious, but no cowbells?

Their fear of blogs and Twitter is downright funny.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 10, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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