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Farmers Only: Can somebody please tell Dusty that Drew Stubbs is good?

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  • Louisville won 8-4 against Charlotte in an awesome start by Sam Lecure.  LeCure gave up 3 runs in 6 innings of work, but struck out 11, a season high.  Despite "not being ready for the big leagues", Drew Stubbs was 3-for-4 with 3 runs scored and 2 RBI.  Oh yeah, and he stole his 42nd base of the year, which is twice as many as Willy TaverasWes Bankston was 3-for-5 with 2 RBI and Chris Heisey was 2-for-4 with 1 RBI.  Up next: Travis Wood takes on Charlotte at 7:05.
  • Todd Frazier
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  • Carolina lost to Tennessee 7-2, as they were down early and the bullpen didn't keep them in it.  Tom Cochran had a quality start, The Cycle pitched a perfect 7th, but Ruben Medina gave up 4 in the 8th to put the game out of reach.  Todd Frazier was 2-for-4 with a double.  His average is up to .304 on the season.  He needs to be called up to AAA.  Up next: Camilo Vazquez takes the hill against Tennessee at 7:15.
  • Sarasota was off.  They start a new series against St. Lucie at 7.
  • Dayton had a lead but lost it in the late innings to fall 10-8 to Great LakesJ.C. Sulbaran continued his inconsistency, going only 4 inning and giving up 6 runs (only 2 earned) while striking out 3 and walking 5.  Donnie Joseph was the lone bright spot for the pitching staff, pitching 2 perfect innings to close it out.  Alexis Oliveras led the offense, going 2-for-4 with a HR and 4 RBI, and Enrique Rojas, Carlos Mendez, Chase Weems, and Cody Puckett all had two hits.  Up next: Dragons take on Great Lakes at 7.
  • Billings lost a pitcher's duel 3-1 to Great Falls.  Tim Crabbe pitched 6 innings of one-hit shutout ball, but Tzu-Kai Chiu gave up 3 runs in the 8th to get the loss.  The Mustangs only managed 3 hits, and Yorman Rodriguez was 0-for-4 with a golden sombrero.  After starting off on a tear, he's cooled off considerably, with his average dropping to .265.  Up next: Blair Carson starts against Great Falls at 9:05.
  • The GCL Reds were rained out.  That game will be made up on Saturday.  They'll take on the Twins at noon today.

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I want to see Stubbs in the MLB just for his defense.

We haven’t had a good defensive CF in a long time

by jsl413 on Aug 4, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

he has a 9-game on-base streak too.

we haven’t had a good offensive CF in a long time either.

by GrooveLeg on Aug 4, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it wasn't a whole year

but Josh Hamilton was a dang good CF too

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Aug 4, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really know what the numbers mean

But on FanGraphs they’re all positive at least. So he’s not been a terrible fielder.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 4, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I think

He shouldn’t play, because he can’t hit and there are two different in house options who can or might (Dickerson and Stubbs). I still think Willy is a fine 4th outfielder, a guy to play against a tough lefty when CDick is healthy and a pinch hitter off the bench. But, in those moments, he still should NEVER bat lead-off

by timb116 on Aug 4, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he's definitely got value as a bench guy

LIDR for, say, Gomes, or a pinch runner. Everyday regular, a guy that we’ll pay $4M next year? Negatory, good buddy.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 4, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont even think he has much value as a bench guy

his defense is only a tick above average, so the net gain over any of the guys we should be employing out there would be minimal if even extent. his only real value is as a pinch runner, and NL clubs (especially bad ones) cannot afford to fill a roster spot with such a novelty. he hits worse than some pitchers, so putting him in to pinch hit in any other situation than to sac bunt is madness. we already know it, and the Reds need to get a grip on it: Willy’s days as a major leaguer should be over.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 4, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, did we see:

ethanator9: How are the Reds going to have money to pay for Rolen next year?

bob_miller: The reports on the amount owed Rolen floating around are incorrect. While I’m not at liberty to say what the amount is, we are not responsible for some of it.

If we’re paying more than we think, I’ll be sad.

by jsl413 on Aug 4, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Y'know what memory I'd managed to repress until this morning?

Jacque Jones was on this team in spring training, and came damn close to “making” the team. Let us all give a brief word of thanks now because as shitty as this season’s been, it could have been with Jacque Jones.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Imagine

If Jacque Jams had had a good spring and Gomes had started really slow……… He could be our starting RF right now

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They'd get 3 hits a night either way

First time I shot her, I shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 4, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about this one?

After Gomes was cut in spring training, he could have opted out and become a free agent instead of accepting the assignment to Louisville. We’re one declined option away from starting right fielder Darnell McDonald.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 4, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

This makes me really appreciate Jonny Gomes...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Aug 4, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daynce Mix, T-Virus, McFlurry

Now THAT’S a great outfield.

Combined OBP-.295

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Aug 4, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

is that a dash or a negative sign?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Aug 4, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's right

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 4, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

sum of their parts?

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Aug 4, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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