Reds can't catch grounders, breaks. Lose to the Dodgers, 3-2 in 12 innings.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 30, 2009 8:25 PM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Matt Kemp. He hit a home run and the game-winning sacrifice fly.
Key Plays
- In the second inning, Scott Rolen singled, and Darnell McDonald hit his first major league home run. The Reds led 2-0, and would not score again for the next ten innings.
- Bronson was cruising until he hiccupped in the fifth inning. He allowed a leadoff home run to Matt Kemp, and then a single to Casey Blake. He got the next two outs, but then Orlando Hudson and Clayton Kershaw hit balls to Paul Janish that went for hits, and Blake scored to tie the game.
- Dusty used three pitchers (Arroyo, Rhodes, Masset) to get through the 8th inning.
- Drew Stubbs and Paul Janish singled in the 8th inning with one out, but Joey Votto and Brandon Phillips were unable to drive them in.
- In the eleventh inning, Scott Rolen singled with two outs. Drew Sutton came in to pinch hit for Jared Burton, and then Rolen was caught in a rundown.
- Francisco Cordero came in to pitch the twelfth inning - not a save situation. He walked Manny Ramirez, and with one out, Juan Castro doubled. After an intentional walk to Andre Ethier, Matt Kemp hit a fly ball to the warning track for the game winning sacrifice fly.
- The Reds did manage to get two baserunners in the bottom half of the inning before Wladimir Balentien and Drew Stubbs both struck out.
via Fangraphs
Other Notes
- After being called "our smartest baserunner" by Dusty Baker, Scott Rolen was caught twice on the basepaths.
- The Reds struck out 20 times. It was the most strikeouts for the Dodger pitching staff in 37 years (they struck out 22 on Aug. 8, 1972, also against the Reds. Took 'em 19 innings, though.). Joey Votto struck out four times, and Drew Stubbs and Darnell McDonald each struck out three times.
- The Dodgers are now 22-4 against the Reds since 2006.
- For the second game in a row, someone hit their first major league home run.
- Francisco Cordero has pitched on five of the last six days. There is a doubleheader tomorrow.
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why in the world
Would Dusty say that Rolen was their smartest base runner?
I do believe there are such things as smart baserunners. Players who don’t necessarily have a lot of speed, but are smart on the basepaths. They used to say that about Miguel Cairo, and I bought it. But Scott Rolen? He doesn’t steal much, and when he does, he gets caught about half the time.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
it's too bad the doubleheader doesn't come after rosters expand
that’d be almost too convenient for the Reds, wouldn’t it?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
It's a makeup date for a rainout
I think they probably scheduled it before rosters expand on purpose.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 30, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I had sort of forgotten about the doubleheader
I feel sorry for the pitchers and the team. I was tired out just getting annoyed at them. The worst part about these Bronson starts is that he is pitching unbbelievably well and we can’t get him any wins.
Good recap. Is it possible that Dusty’s approval leads to failure?
Anyone want to bet the high socks will be back for Votto and maybe others tomorrow?
Finally, Hal McCoy said he doesn’t like the red day uniforms. That is one of my fave things! I think it looks nice.
i feel sorry for the fans in attendance
i also hate the red unis, but im very conservative and traditional.
"Plain and simple, I wake up in the morning and piss excellence"
yeah I almost went to GABP today because it was such a pleasant day
I’m glad I didn’t because that was a gut punch
extra innings
And a doubleheader tomorrow. Pretty brutal.
I like the red uniforms, too. Though I notice the jerseys tend to fade a lot. I would buy one, but I’m afraid it will turn all my underwear pink.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
yep poodle
i love the red uniforms. I wish they were the everyday uniforms, and there was a black version with red trim that was the alternate uniform
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
The Bruces
prefer the term “special.”
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
he's got your eyes
its clear his mommy/daddy didnt read the directions on how to properly fasten the child in that cheap ass car seat
"Plain and simple, I wake up in the morning and piss excellence"
I'm with you
Those Red Sunday unis kinda suck.
And the baggy look is stupid too. Make those jerseys fit tighter.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 30, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not objecting to tighter fits
to get a better view of Rosales’ fit frame
Seriously, I don’t really have an opinion on the fit of the jersey, but the baggier ones allow more HBPs. That is double-edged, though.
It seems to me the snug fit
would be better, especially in hot weather. You wouldn’t have these heavy, baggy unis dragging ya down.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's the opposite
Loose-fitting clothing is cooler. That’s why they wear those nightgowns in the Middle East.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
But wouldn't it also be heavier when you sweat?
Speed and stamina are a part of baseball. Wearing baggy clothes seems like it would make you slower, and with it being heavier, you would have to exert more in them.
I know the times I played sports in the past, I always felt better in shirts and shorts that fit properly, not all baggy.
Check out women’s tennis players…all they wear is tight and short…I’m not complaining, either…:)
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Also I think its more of a cultural thing
to wear those nightgowns. Wearing shorts and a t-short is seeing as being westernized.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you have cause and effect reversed
It’s a cultural thing because it’s comfortable for that culture. It’s cooler in the shade than in the sun, and wearing a loose garment that covers you is bringing your own shade.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
And I'll go over there in my tight-fitting baseball uniform
and outrun all those dudes in nightgowns…:)
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
My office, in an attempt to save money, is raising the thermostat in summer and lowering it in winter. They passed out federal recommendations on how to dress for the heat. Loose-fitting clothes were one of the recommendations. (Your tax dollars at work.)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
that's interesting and sounds a bit unpleasant for you
but I’m with loose fitting. Loose fitting and thin is always cooler though you would be less aerodynamic.
Heh
Back before I was a baseball fan, I used to say that was what was wrong with baseball: the uniforms were too baggy. That was my marketing plan for baseball: spandex pants and tighter jerseys.
Hard to argue with the HBP thing, though. A free bag, and no risk of injury.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Lol! That would be an interesting marketing campaign
the media department could also take great Entertainment Week/Vanity Fair-esque shots of the team. It seems to me that half of the glamor shots of men for those magazines include the subject of the photo getting drenched. It might help ticket sales some.
When was the last truly non-baggy season?
Side note, a friend of mine has recently been ragging me that I only watch baseball for the atheletic men in tight pants. I try to say the pants aren’t really that tight! And I really do like baseball, even when it’s this bad. Oddly, this season has drawn me in more than any of the recent seasons despite teh crappiness.
show your friend
A photo of Prince Fielder.
Football is the sport to watch to see athletic men in tight pants. Football uniforms make even out of shape guys look like Tom of Finland caricatures of men.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I agree on the football front
but I had to google Tomof Finlad. Had never heard of him. Not sure what word to use, maybe “wow” covers it? lol
not sure how the black would look
you’d have to link a photoshop pic. It sounds a bit interesting.
Uni fashion is a little more fun right now than discussing another tough loss
ewww
black jerseys are never, ever, acceptable for any team besides MAYBE the Pirates or Rockies. It’s not 1998 anymore, you can’t just add black to boost sales. I am incredibly vehemently against this.
Also, re: baggy clothing. It’ll only get heavy if your sweat makes the fabric wet, so you’re carrying around all this external water weight. I’m certain that the space-age tech they have going into the jerseys makes them wick sweat away (think Under Armor, any Nike football uniform). If it’s dry, it’s light.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
But what about aerodynamics and wind resistance?
Wouldn’t a team playing SMAWL BAWL with an emphasis on speed and defense want their players to be able to run as fast as possible?
And the baggy clothing just looks damn stupid.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
no argument to the look
I’d love it if the Reds just went all 1980’s on our asses, put in astroturf and worse skinny jerseys, for pure humor’s sake.
And if the Reds to the Haka, they can wear black. That’ll be my rule.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And lets face it
The ONLY reason MLB teams all went to the baggy look is as a part of the retro-ballpark craze. We’re baseball. We must ass-slather history while rejecting new ideas.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
terrible fashion is everywhere out there
i watched a 400 lb coach walk the sidelines this afternoon with the beltline of his cargo shorts being under(neath) his ass crack.
the kicker was he had a headset on….he must have been communicating with the booth, the coordinators in the sky. for an 8 yr old league. high comedy. )
"Plain and simple, I wake up in the morning and piss excellence"
Nah
I don’t think MLB had anything to do with it. It’s the players who decided to start wearing their jerseys several sizes larger.
It’s the style, via urban hiphop, etc. It’s not just baseball. Look at how basketball uniforms have changed since, say, the 1970s.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
im ok with the NBA getting baggier
those nuthuggers from the Magic/Bird era were frightening.
"Plain and simple, I wake up in the morning and piss excellence"
Cordero pitching 5 of 6 days
SHOULD mean he’d get some kind of break. Hopefully, they won’t need him at all. I went ahead and activated Nick Masset in my NL-only fantasy league in hopes of getting a cheap save tomorrow.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
why is the guy on a pitch count pitching game 2 of the double header
wouldn’t it make more since to get LeCure up for that game, and activate Cueto after roster expansion?
Bloop
take your common sense talk somewhere else
Dusty might hear. What is the pitch count?
by Red_Poodle on Aug 31, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since we've been tlking jersey style here
Can the team completely change their unifrom most the way through the season? Or are thy stuck with what they start with? It would be amusing to try some 70s uniforms or something when the September callups come. It would be one more thing to make this a bit more interesting.
I think they could
They’d probably have to get permission from the commish, but that wouldn’t be a problem. MLB loves new uniforms, throwback jerseys, etc. It’s more money to be made by selling them.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
nope
There’s a strictly regimented MLB Style Guide that comes out every year around Feb/March that says what every team will be wearing that year. The teams submit their uniforms around World Series time so that manufacturers can get everything out (for both the team and for fan gear). The Commish lets pretty much anything go in the MLB, but, not surprisingly, the NFL can get overwhelmingly fascist about the process. Usually there’s about a year wait before any dramatic change in identity (think Rays, recent Diamondbacks, Milwaukee every 5 years) gets ok’ed, though. The only exception I can think of are the NY teams wearing NYFD hats after 9/11
Chris Creamer’s Sports Logo Community has lots of moderately fascinating information on this, as well as every old logo ever. They trend a bit hockeyish, being Canadian and all, but it’s some fun stuff. And everything is rasterized for use in Illustrator, too!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
interesting info
Maybe if the Reds didn’t permanently change the unis and just kept using different promotional ones MLB really wouldn’t care like Bubba suggested. Someone might get annoyd such as Hal McCoy or Marty about it though.
I didn’t know the NFL was so stringent, but I have noticed there isn’t nearly as much change in their uniforms as there is in the MLB.
No fires near me.
But someone please light Dusty ablaze.
"He's bending over, trying to rub it out." - Dodger broadcaster Charlie Steiner, speaking of Brandon Phillips' calf cramp.
It's the Dodger Way
Or at least the dry suburbs around LA Way.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 31, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
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