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Game 119 Thread II: Arroyo and Zito battle it out for who is most handsome guitar player. And pitching.

Joey Votto played 1B in the top of the 1st, and then Kevin Barker hit for him in the bottom half.  No word yet on what's up with him, but hopefully we'll hear soon.  Numerous rumors abound, one suggesting that he was suddenly called into action in defense of a higher cause.

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I'm still waiting for pizza, Scrabbles.

Maybe I’ll get it in this thread

I have robot insurance.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

ahhh drag dude

we had some earlier, but i dont know if there’s any left. did you check the fridge downstairs?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, fresh out.

But I did find a Verner’s ginger ale.

I have robot insurance.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what?

it’s totally yours man. just dont spill any on your sleeping bag.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I had seconds. I did not know that everyone hadn’t gotten a first piece.

by thevole on Aug 19, 2009 9:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did he do?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

Gameday was stuck on “in play, no out” for the longest time.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he runs real darn fast

it rattled into the bullpen and he went into 2B standing up

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woohoo!

All right Drew. Now steal third.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

i think Janish was trying to bunt for a hit

Uribe was playing pretty far back. still a dumb idea though, since any kind of single likely scores Stubbs.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbs OPSing 1.000!!

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Kelch just said:

Votto has “blurred vision”

I have robot insurance.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

What could that indicate? Doctors?

Could that be related to the stress/panic attacks from earlier?

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listening to Foreigner?

Double Vision?

I have robot insurance.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

HA!

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listening to Queen?

One Vision?

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That must be why Dusty put Janish in the two-hole

He’s a master bunter.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait... I just realized something

Janish sacrificed Stubbs to third when there was ALREADY ONE FUCKING OUT!!!!

WTF!!!???

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Aug 19, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

he was trying to bunt for a hit

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt they left that up to the rookie

It must have been Dusty’s idea. Maybe he just wanted to see if he could do it.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is getting ridiculous

Something good happens on the Reds, so immediately something horrible must occur to balance it.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Which means Harang's arm will fall off in his next start

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno

but there’s something heretical about that pic…

by spf65 on Aug 19, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like to think that God has a sense of humor

Look at the platypus, or Otis Nixon (don’t look too long though, you might hurt start getting blurred vision yourself).

31 more losses

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

God better have a sense of humor

Or else when I get there, I’ma drop that muthafucka.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

who says you're getting there?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me, of course

I was born on Christmas, it’s a little known loophole that I get to state my case before the judges for that reason alone. I’ll YouTube it, no worries. Oughtta be a fucking hoot, me trying to explain why I woke up naked on a picnic table in Waimea.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blurry vision?

I mean, really?

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i think he was having the same kind of symptoms

went he went on the shelf for his depression and anxiety.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

His father died a year ago on August 8.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 outs Bronson

You just have to not allow any runs so we can lose in extra innings

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 19, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The mighty Zito is out of the game

Perhaps it’s time to score some runs?

Think of the baby!

People always asking, 'Uncle Jemimah, why you sell booze?' I say 'sell whatchu know' and I knows about booze.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, I want to tell whoever was responsible for putting "Double Vision" in my head and getting it stuck there

there’s a special place in hell for people like you.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I'm sorry

You don’t have to get so Hot Blooded

People always asking, 'Uncle Jemima, why you sell booze?' I say 'sell whatchu know' and I knows about booze.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're Cold as Ice

People always asking, 'Uncle Jemima, why you sell booze?' I say 'sell whatchu know' and I knows about booze.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys

Are my jukebox heroes

by spf65 on Aug 19, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, Break it Up

People always asking, 'Uncle Jemima, why you sell booze?' I say 'sell whatchu know' and I knows about booze.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could probably play

Until the End of Time

People always asking, 'Uncle Jemima, why you sell booze?' I say 'sell whatchu know' and I knows about booze.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

I’ll Get Even With You

And I’m done.

I knew all but this one.

People always asking, 'Uncle Jemima, why you sell booze?' I say 'sell whatchu know' and I knows about booze.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll show you what love is

And by “love” I mean “a kick in the ass”

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess he got "hit a homerun" mixed up with "strike out swinging"

A common mistake.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll show you what love is

And by “love” I mean “a kick in the ass”

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fail

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I'm done scoring for a couple of weeks it looks like

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

How awesome would it be if the Reds did a clean sweep in the broadcast booth and axed Grande, Welsh, and Brantley?

Seriously, Chris. It’s August. We don’t need you explaining over and over that Arroyo likes to change speeds.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Wait

Arroyo likes to change speeds?

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i actually like Welsh

he did an interview with RLN radio earlier this season where he explained that he knows that we nerds know this stuff, but he’s doing it for the kids who are watching.

and he’s a damn sight better than everyone but Kelch.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does "damn sight better" mean?

If kids are the target audience, then go ahead and put Gapper in the booth for christ’s sake. This is a grown-up’s game.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 9:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If you don't get the kids into baseball

who watches it after the grownups are all dead?

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Chris Welsh is getting kids into baseball?

I’ll read my comment again, but I’m pretty sure I didn’t say kids shouldn’t be watching baseball.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i wish there wasnt so much filler too

but Welsh seems like the only one in the regular rotation who actually knows what he’s talking about. maybe he’s only good by comparison, but it’s something.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know about that

he’s said some things just as stupefying as any of the others have.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

When he sticks to analysis, he’s actually pretty insightful. It’s the perfunctory shit that gets in the way.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

HI KIDS!

The big boys are/should be back, and Gordo’s in Norwood was a huge hit. A solid second place to Terry’s, possibly just as good.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I had the Hawaiian (Hi bubbafan!)

Burger, American cheese, cucumber, pineapple, lettuce, tomato. I held the onions. It was damned good.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

obc and 'tHan did

They both loved it, and I’m not sure who else had it, but it was a hit

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Balentien a poor defender?

What are the chances of him putting up a higher WAR than Dickerson as a platoon partner for Gomes in LF?

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 19, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's actually not that bad

Not great range but very good arm

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

well, shit.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

so does dustbag run coco out there again down by one?

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't like this Nix/Affeldt matchup

Not a good feeling about this.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 9:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

damnit nix ... goodroyo could have done that

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

For good reason

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 10:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can the reds please deal Arroyo

tomorrow? His stock is trading at madoff like ponzi scheme levels right now. SELL! Or does he have one of those contract thingies that defy common sense?

by horace clark on Aug 19, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

a "thingy"

such as salary?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Aug 19, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

salaries

mean nothing in the Bronx.

by horace clark on Aug 19, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently it does

this year

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Aug 19, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your argument is poetic

And I agree.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

8IP, 1 run

Arroyo got Harang’d tonight

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 10:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I hate the Reds.

Beat Lincecum, then light up Lincecum and lose, and both times you face Zito, get fucked up.

by jsl413 on Aug 19, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Methinks that Bronson has don a yeoman's job on a really suckass team this season

Why would you trade him..who’s going to replace his innings and wins? Not Owings.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He's done a fine job

He’d be a good fit for the Bombers. Pettitte is long in the tooth, Wang is gone for the year, and they have Joba on an inning watch. Their middle relief has been rock solid with Hughes coming out of the pen and Rivera is, well, Rivera. They need to add a starter who can give them innings. Cashman will overpay for one from somewhere, might as well be Arroyo.

by horace clark on Aug 19, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute, teams actually monitor the innings their young pitchers throw?

MADNESS I SAY!!

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

one run dumb fucks .... then coco can blow it in the 10th

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome to the Reds 2009

I believe that designating losing inning was the 8th in 2008.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was 2007

I know, the suck tends to all blur together.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 20, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's right...we had Burton last year...until he broke.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 20, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what is funny?

I thought the Reds offense might improve soon with the pending return of Rolen and the disabling of Taveras. I should have known something would happen to Votto. This team is cursed.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

someone dig up marge and reinstate her for a day .....

 …. that should remove the curse

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

BS call

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

c-dick for janish? what if we go extra innings?

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Sutton at SS

would be my guess

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

then bring in sutton then and don't waste players

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad call

I swear sometimes the ump sees the guy go to take his base and goes, “oh yeah? Yer out kid”

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Was it ball 4 to Stubbs?

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, that's some rookie bullshit

Good to see Stubb’s eye is as advertised though

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 10:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not getting any Good Vibrations

watching Brian Wilson pitch against the Reds.

by horace clark on Aug 19, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

funny.......

LIneup includes 3 triple AAA players – Stubbs, Barker, Rosales. An offcast from the Mariners – Balentien. A guy who started the season as the backup catcher and might still be had Hernandez not gone down – Hanigan. A guy who was a free agent spring training invite, who didn’t even make the club out of spring training – Gomes. Now Dickerson – a 4th outfielder………and the lone regular starter – Phillips. Comical.

by Dude Rock on Aug 19, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

The entire team is backups

Except BP.

We’ve been really unlucky on the injury front. It’s a wonder that we’re not in dead last place.

Yet.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

fuck!

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough nite for Bronson

Wonder what his record would have been on a decent or better yet a good team?

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

He's had his fair share of wins he didn't earn

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 10:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We got 2-hit

And the two were Stubbs and Rosales.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

He's the streakiest player on the team

He carried the offense a few weeks ago while Votto was struggling

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 10:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget he was plunked on the wrist on his bobblehead night a few days ago

I’m sure it still can’t be feeling too good. Not a lot of padding on the side of the wrist so it probably hit right on the bone.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's always been the streakiest player on the team

what with all the running through the outfield naked.

by thevole on Aug 19, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep burping cucumber

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought you were coming to this one

What happened? Too good for us lowly RRs?

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

my excuse isn't very good.

I saw the thread, and never posted to ask details and never checked back / remembered the date of said activity. I would have gone, I had nothing else to do tonight.

The next one I’ll pay attention to.

by jsl413 on Aug 19, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I however am burping Godo's cheeseburger...

just as good the second time

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is another Titantic deck chair rearrangement but

Drew Sutton should be getting more time with all these injuries. At least as much as Rosales has gotten to prove that he can’t hit. And unless the Reds really think they’re going to be able to swing a trade soon for a SS, move Phillips over now. Janish cannot hit. It’s been codified.

They’re really blowing this laboratory period by trying to eke out a couple more wins – at most – by playing guys with more MLB experience. Start your spring training experimentation now so you can put a better product on the field for opening day 2010.

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 19, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Sutton don't got it..he'll never be a mlb player of note

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just want a solid player

Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Caleb on Aug 19, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm you could be wating around a while

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that

His approach at the plate is pretty good, and he’s got decent pop for a skinny guy. When he’s gotten playing time, he has looked good (the Colorado series, and one and a half games against the Nats). I think he could be a solid utility guy at least.

31 more losses

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope that he lives up to his hype.

I would love for him to develop into a solid all around player…Hell its only his first game…but I really question bringing him up now,. But that’s ancient history…he’s here, my guess is that he’ll play well enough in the field but will hit about the same as Rosy.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least this year/

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Aug 19, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking about Sutton

Though most of what I said about approach could apply to Stubbs as well (well, except for that first at bat). The big thing is for them to get enough playing time to prove themselves or expose them.

31 more losses

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

what happened to Votto?

Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Caleb on Aug 19, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

"Blurred vision"

I think it’s probably a relapse of his depression/anxiety problem.

His dad passed away last August, so it’s probably on his mind.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

this team could be a factor as well for depression

Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Caleb on Aug 19, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

though Dusty denies that
Reds manager Dusty Baker said Joey Votto’s blurry vision was not related to stress that kept him out for 21 games earlier this year.

"He went after the popup and said he couldn’t see," Baker said. "When player says that, an alarm goes off."

Votto saw an optometrist. Baker said it’s possible that Votto could play in today’s 12:35 p.m. game with the Giants.

Either way, it doesn’t sound good.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

this team could be a factor as well for depression

Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Caleb on Aug 19, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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