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Game 119 Thread: Giants at Reds

San Francisco Giants at Cincinnati Reds, Aug 19, 2009 7:10 PM EDT



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San Francisco Giants
@ Cincinnati Reds

Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009, 7:10 PM EDT
Great American Ball Park

Barry Zito vs Bronson Arroyo

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing out to left field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 75.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Barry Zito 8-11 4.44 1.35 110 55



W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Bronson Arroyo 11-11 4.74 1.39 85 53


It's kind of boring when we see the exact same pitching match ups this close together.  I like variety, especially when it means the Reds are mixing in some wins with their losses.

Bronson Arroyo has pitched 50.1 innings over his last 7 starts for a 2.49 ERA, but the Reds are just 3-4 in those starts.  The key for him has been keeping the ball in the park.  After allowing 21 HR in his previous 17 starts, he's allowed just 4 over his last 7 starts.  Combine that with a respectable 2.14 BB/9 and you have the makings of an attractive pitcher for a potential playoff run (hurry while supplies last!).

The last time the Reds faced Barry Zito, he shut them down, allowing just 2 runs in 6 innings to get the win in the Giants 4-2 victory on August 8th.  Brandon Phillips and Wladimir Balentien both doubled off of the lefty, so it's good to see them both in the lineup tonight.

The big news for this game is that Drew Stubbs will be starting in center field and leading off.  All I want from him is good enough play for the Reds to consider dumping Willy Taveras.  He doesn't have to be a world beater, just good enough.  But I'd love it if he was a world-beater.

Unfortunately, even with the good news, the Reds are still on a 4-game losing streak.  That means the baby must go back under the basket.  Poor kid, you don't deserve this...

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In case you missed the FanShot posted just below here

Johnny Cueto is heading to the DL with shoulder inflammation. Micah Owings will start in his place on Friday.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Aug 19, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

i hope he sits out the rest of the year

i know he’s not happy about it, and i guess i like that. he’s a gamer, for whatever that is worth. but the kid just needs a rest.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

go take a nap young man

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fay says they'll activate him in time to pitch the double header August 31

So I guess that’s 2 or 3 skipped starts? Seems like a reasonable choice to me, although I’d rather he be shut down for the year too.

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

So does this mean

Owings is available to Pinch Hit tonight?

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by MixFMKyle on Aug 19, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, we get Rolen back this is a halfway decent lineup

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

and a SS

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by MixFMKyle on Aug 19, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neifi Perez?

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by MixFMKyle on Aug 19, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We get a SS this is a fully decent lineup

esp. when Bruce comes back

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

I’ve read a lot of your blogs, but finally I’ve made an account to comment. Thanks for all the updated info even though it’s a terrible season.

by Redsrock39 on Aug 19, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

second'd! Welcome!

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reds = Mr. Pibb + Red Vines

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year it's more like Reds = Thunderbird with a Schlitz chaser

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by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Unlike the Reds play as of late, for some reason, that sounds appealing.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hola senor

espero que su estancia sea agradable y las nalgas el placer.

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by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

dominican correspondent jch24

news 5, Every other Sunday morning, 4:35 timeslot

by Excalib8 on Aug 19, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The girl that did the Spanish news early in the morning was INCREDIBLY hot on every level

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by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi, hello, and welcome

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Intersting stuff from Hal

Bruce is going to play for a month in Dominican Winter ball,

and Hal won’t lay off Taveras:

Stubbs, the soon-to-be 25 No. 1 draft pick in 2006, was called up from Class AAA Louisville today and inserted into the lineup at leadoff and in center field, the spot occupied most of the year by Willy Taveras, an abject failure at doing what he was brought in to do. Taveras was placed on the disabled list.

Now they’ll see if Stubbs can do what Taveras couldn’t. Stubbs led the International League in stolen bases with 46 in 54 tries

.

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Mobile rec'd

I think Hal might be a little concerned about losin his voice after this season. Let ’em hear it, old timer!

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

next year

wouldn’t surprise me if he was writing next year, somewhere else.

by bobestes on Aug 19, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey dude's...don't know if you've heard lance's show or read this elsewhere

but he says the bill hall sweepstakes are down to the giants and reds, and that the brewers are asking for harang in exchange for him

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Aug 19, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Heard this from Hal last night

there has been much weeping and gnashing of teeth over it

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are the Giants actually offering something?

Or is there a chance that the Brewers will just release him and we can sign him for peanuts?

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the hell are the Giants going to give them that compares to Harang?

J. Sanchez? No way he clears waivers. Call the obvious bluff, and if you want him that damn bad claim him on outright release waivers or sign him Friday as a FA for league minimum.

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by MixFMKyle on Aug 19, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which Diocese?

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sexually abuses little boys?!?

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slyde, you coming to burgers or no?

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Scrabbles

Scrabbles lets us order pizza and call our friends on the phone.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright kids!

i got Papa Johns on the line. what all toppings you like on your ’za?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Hall just got traded

To the Mariners

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Bill. Bill Hall.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I thought that was on purpose

At first I was terrified that it was someone actually named Brad Hall, and then I thought it was pretty funny. But thanks Jack Z., for taking your old organization-mate, and sparing Walt any kind of flea-brained temptation.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 19, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES

Y-E-S YES

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some punk minor leaguer too

Not someone of the caliber of Aaron Harang, nor even of Bronson Arroyo. God, those were the stupidest yet most terrifying rumors I’ve heard all year.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 19, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scarier than the rumors that we were going to trade Jay Bruce for Shaquille O'Neal?

or was that just a dream I had?

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaq would at least.......

help the team sure up the middle of the defense and pull in a few more rebounds. I believe the Reds only have 0 rebounds so far this year. Huge upgrade in that department.

Plus we could have him ask Dusty how is ass tastes.

6-2, 185

by brown11b on Aug 19, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I fell out of my chair laughing

and then I Rec’d

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm an inch taller and five punds lighter

We should totally hang out.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, this trade highlights how VERY stupid those rumors were

but it speaks to the sadness of this franchise that every last one of us thought there could be truth to them

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

FUCK YES!

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

hallelujah

Stubbs called up, Bill Hall not coming to Cincinnati.

Could it get any better?

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, since you asked

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take Hardy right now

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody see Dusty's comments on Stubbs?

Not sure what to make of all that

I hope he gets a chance to play and doesn’t get babied like they did with Dickerson, then get to next year and say they can’t trust him to man CF. My favorite part of all that was this quote:

"You’ve got to them in a few situations, watch them in batting practice closely. I’ve got a pretty good memory with hitters and pitchers. This is from the old school. You didn’t have the computer to rely on you had to rely on memory. File it, go up there with total recall."

He’s so full of shit it’s hard to believe……..Yeah Dusty, we’re all buying that you are some sort of genius savant when it comes to hitting when you played two of the worst players in the league at the top of your lineup all year.

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He's playing the odds!

If someone should have a good average, and they’re terrible up to this point, the law of averages says they should catch fire from here ’til the end – in order to hit that average. Stubbs is just a stopgap until Willy T recovers from his injury. Then Willy will be back, so he can hit his average.

Simple math, you baseball-dummy.

by thevole on Aug 19, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he understands perception psychology and small sample size judgments.

Unlike Dusty’s daughter.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is my mother, what's your point?

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck that motherfucker

I’ve dealt with people like him my entire career – “I remember everything, it’s all filed away right up in the old noggin”. It’s bullshit, always has been. The computers and video and pitch tracking and other statistical analysis is available and being used by other managers. If you’re not in the dinner car, you’re being ran over by the train, dumbass.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbs

well i’ll be damned

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

only because

Willy’s on the DL, and Cherry was traded.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

so it's not like there's been a change of philosophy in the front office

They’re just desperate.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

in that case

i rescind my comment of stubbs well i’ll be damned.

thanks

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I lol'd

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure about that.

They couldve called up McFlurry if they were just desperate. Plus Hal said they couldn’t DL Taveras until they found him to tell him. That indicates his injury wasn’t bad enough to definitely warrant the DL. I think it might’ve been punitive

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I mentioned that in the last thread

I definitely think it was punitive. Taveras obviously came to the park not thinking he was going to have to come off the roster for a two-week injury.

This also takes away Dusty’s toy. Hopefully, Jocketty ordered Dusty to play Stubbs.

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, was going to give you credit but

I’m on my phone and too lazy to look up the comment

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I dunno

They usually wait until the next day, to see how the player feels in the morning, at least with this kind of injury.

You really think he was dogging it, and not really injured?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if he is

they couldve pulled the day to day thing if they needed to. They certainly haven’t been afraid to do it before

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 7:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it means something to me

when not only did they call him up but also led him off. IMO this has Walt written all over it

by GrooveLeg on Aug 19, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Stubbs got the call

from his manager at 12:30 a.m. telling him that he was getting called up. So they didn’t even wait to see how Taveras felt in the morning.

The Reds management wanted Taveras off the roster.

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty's such a pussy.

I wish he would have reemed Willy publicly.

by jsl413 on Aug 19, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

If he really was dogging it, good riddance. In the immortal words of Bubba Crosby, “It can be difficult to hit the ball. It can be difficult to catch the ball. To run hard on every play is the easiest thing in baseball.”

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might have a problem, dear. :)

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by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbs

Proving that it’s ALWAYS about girth

by Excalib8 on Aug 19, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

GREAT FUCKING DAY

1. Tavaras DL’d – Stubbs called up
2. Cueto shut down
3. Bill Hall traded……..to the AL!!

Definitely going to watch this game, hopefully Stubbs has at least 1 driving catch and a SB. That will endear him with Dusty forever giving his elephant like memory.

by Dave from Louisville on Aug 19, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I've had a better day than you have.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Congratulations, kid. You're making your MLB debut tonight."

“That’s great! Who are we batting against?”
“Barry Zito.”
“Oh.”

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't worry kid. He throws like a AAA pitcher now

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That was one weird assed grip

I wanna try it, just to see what it will do when I throw it.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

heheheh

Do we have a btard in the house?

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by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The voice of the Louisville Bats

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

did someone say tarp?

Bout time the reds got bailed out

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 19, 2009 7:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You better be ready boy

People gets stabbed in tha neck in them parts.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which El station do you live by?

I have some friends that live pretty close to one up there

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, they're like 2 blocks away from you

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Aug 19, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did Bronson's ERA go below 5?

Wow, he must be good, he has 11 wins! That’s only one less than Lincecum!

by jsl413 on Aug 19, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Marty & Cowboy are eating crow about talking smack about Willy dogging it last night.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

And profusely apologizing.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They shouldn't apologize

It’s a bullshit injury. Have the Reds made any DL decision this quickly this season? Taveras had a “slight” strain… then at 12:30 a.m. Stubbs is getting told that he’s being called up. No waiting to see how Taveras felt today.

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were only apologizing for calling Willy out last night on the air for dogging it to first.

Willy DID get hurt on that swing, though, and has hustled a lot for us this year.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taveras has hustled at times

But there have been times where he has dogged it. Particularly after he has made a mistake fielding.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this is true,

Do you think Taveras is done with the Reds? They got tired of him sucking then to top it off he started dogging it.

by kennythered on Aug 19, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wily Mo is a free agent.

I can’t help but wonder what he’d do in 550 PA’s. For another team.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Whenever I play a baseball video game in like franchise mode, i make him my DH when I’m an AL team.

by kennythered on Aug 19, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tarp is coming off now.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, this figures

I sign up for MLB Gameday on my Blackberry so I can listen to Reds games.
I move. I don’t work at Verizon anymore. My phone doesn’t work.
Can’t listen to the game.
Goddamn it.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Verizon still sponsors Glenn Beck, tho, so good riddance. :P

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd still rather work for a company that sponsors a racist douchebag

then not work for anyone at all.

Unless SLyde wants to give me a job and pay me out of that giant Scrooge McDuck vault of his.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright jerks and jerkettes

im excited about Drew Stubbs Day at the ol’ ball orchard. and Arroyo has been awesome the past month, hasnt he? the Yankees are soooo pissed.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The Yankees being cheap this year just absolutely floors me

“We want your players, but you have to pay most of their salary even though our revenues are at least 4 times yours.”

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just such a change from years past

I think they would have been more amenable to taking on Arroyo or Harang’s salaries if they were still chasing the Sox at this point.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah a little desperation can do wonders to get your ass in gear

but i cant blame them for not wanted to take on the whole salary. Arroyo has been fading over the past few years, and Harang’s option becomes mutual at 14 mil if he’s traded.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Yankees

Are feeling the recession as much as anyone. They built that flashy new shopping mall of a stadium…and had a lot of trouble raising money for it when the credit markets froze up. All those Wall Streeters who were supposed to buy the luxury seats and suites ended up unemployed.

They think Arroyo is way overpaid. And they’re 7 games up on the Sox, so not that desperate. Yet.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dish Network

sucks ass. I hate Time Warner, but I can’t remember the last time I lost service.

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were with Time Warner and it was HORRIBLE

Our DVR didn’t work half the time, the installer left about 50 feet of cable balled up and hanging off an electrical cord in my basement, and their customer service is the worst… which really gets to me since I’ve been in call centers for years…

I actually like Dish. They are cheap and I rarely have problems… actually as I was typing this, the signal came back… so yay!

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah we've had TWC the past year

and we are getting WOW! when we move next weekend. im excited.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not excited with Comcast in Chicago

you have to pay a monthly fee for a box, if you want anything more than extraordinary basic cable. We have a box in the living room, with all the normal channels, I don’t have a box in my bedroom, and i get about 8 versions of each local channel, C-SPAN, C-SPAN II, FX, and MSNBC. There is no reason I should be forced to have a box, to get standard cable.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Aug 19, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's another thing I like about Dish

They have the dual tuner DVR. I have one box that I don’t pay extra for and it controls 2 TVs but I can watch something different and record something different on each set. It’s very nice.

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comcast Chicago is the worst

Did you have the RCN option in Rogers Park. Or At&t?

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i'm not sure

my roomate has had comcast for a while, i am new. But it is ridiculous to require a box for anything beyond local programming.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Aug 19, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ours TWC goes out in about every heavy rain

It usually doesn’t stay out long, but I find it ironic that they advertise that you don’t have to worry about the weather.

by ol Pete on Aug 19, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's been

at least 5-6 years since Time Warner Cable has gone out for me. And I’ve lived at three different locations in that time period.

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be an exposed wire getting some water in it or something

I know it can cause issues with cable internet, so I assume it could do the same to the TV.

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the install here is good

and there is no hope of having them check their system – customer service is like a bad cable horror movie – and the price is sodomy

by ol Pete on Aug 19, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah their customer service is what finally got me to switch

I had to call multiple times to get someone scheduled to come look at my install and then they didn’t show up. When I called them on it, they said they came and no one was home. I worked from home at the time so I know I was there. It was crazy frustrating.

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hurricane Ike 2008 for me

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

New announced starting time esitmate: 7:50.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah it looks that way

I’m hoping it’s true, and that he plays well

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

rosters expand in less than two weeks

Willy can’t come off the DL before then.

Stubbs has to be added to the roster anyway; he’s eligible for the Rule 5 draft this year. So there’s no reason not to keep him in Cincinnati.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice. Rec'd.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

he'd be eligible for rule 5?

That makes the Willy T signing more confusing.

by ol Pete on Aug 19, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really think

They had to sign Willy for two years, because that was the only way they could get him. They way overpaid for him. Kinda like they overpaid for Arroyo, Harang, Cordero, etc. They have to pay more than a big market or winning team would have to.

And yeah, I’m pretty sure both Stubbs and Heisey have to be added to the roster before the next Rule 5 draft. Players signed at age 19 or older are eligible after being in the organization for three years. They were signed in 2006.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i highly doubt that Willy was so sought after

the Rockies non-tendered him. i think the Reds grossly overbid and the rest of the league snickered at them.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

They overbid

but I think they had to, in order to get him. (Whether they should have been so determined to get him is another question.) Another team may not have had to offer so much.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know

i understand that sentiment with big-time free agents like Cordero. other teams really wanted him. but with Willy, i doubt anybody really wanted him. he was non-tendered. if a team really wanted him, they would have traded for him. im sure the Rockies asked around before just tossing him to the bin.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I recall,

There was only one other team interested in him and we were the only team that offered him 2 years. I will stand by my position that Dusty told Bob he wanted him and Bob made Walt get him no matter what.

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think they overpaid for Harang

if he would have put up more 2006/2007 level numbers, he would be a steal.

FUCK YOU DUSTY!!!

Bloop

by justin007000 on Aug 19, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

First pitch!

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

GRAND SLAM HOME RUN

only to the Reds.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're twittering and driving, while listening to our broadcast, please buckle up with your free hand.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds dirty

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

All right

Tostino’s Party Pizza, Lone Star Beer and MLB GameDay

Let’s do this, Cincinnati Reds.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Totinos?

They used to have a hamburger version when I was a lad. I consumed many.

by ol Pete on Aug 19, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. That's what I meant.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's some serious defense up the middle

Hanigan, Phillips, Janish, and Stubbs. If only Rolen and Bruce were healthy the Reds would be at least above average at every position but left field.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I like it

It’s just goofy to have Janish bat 2nd and Hanigan 8th.

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 19, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I call bullshit on that

Taveras couldn’t hit it to the warning track to save his life.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We said the same thing at burger night

Slyde and I agreed that the difference was he turned on a pitch and actually hit it to the track.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

What kills me about Taveras is he swings like he thinks he's a power hitter

With that kind of speed, he should try using a heavy bat and just kind of sling it in front of the ball. They should have had him watching tape of Brett Butler and Otis Nixon hitting. The results couldn’t be any worse than what he’s done this season.

31 more losses

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbs steps in...

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

/pat burrell'ed

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Janish know to take pitch #1 here?

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

First pitch swinging?

Dusty tell him to do that?

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Aug 19, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

stubs has got to have the least impressive slash numbers of any hyped call-up in history..

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 19, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Votto not on deck...Barker is.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

First pitch, Drew?

It was to the left of second base though, so not quite Willy.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 8:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

oh what the shit

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 19, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

The Reds Doom Train keeps on rollin'

I blame the high socks last night for Votto’s injury.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something wrong with Votto...Barker at the plate, staying in to play 1B.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Um, what's wrong with Votto?

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

What the fuck?

Did Votto even step in for a pitch?

This really is a cursed year.

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 19, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The Reds decided we were too happy

Votto’s getting traded to the Angels for Gary Matthews, Jr.

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

pittsburgh's winning

so we could make up a game on them..

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 19, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

they're rockin Gallardo

Ronny MF’n Cedeno with his 2nd HR of the series

brewers working hard on their draft status

by ol Pete on Aug 19, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What. Just. Happened.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Aug 19, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

crap

What happened?

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

The Reds took the field

This year that seems to be a bad thing to do.

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bronson

Please don’t walk the bases loaded. Thanks.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

FACK

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all good

He some how held off the inevitable for an inning at least

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember how all excited we all were earlier today?

That seems like weeks ago.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Like I said

The Reds don’t like it when we get too happy… I’m about to go back to playing WoW

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that double play was hot

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 19, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wlong fly ball

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Aug 19, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

everytime he almost hits one i cringe

cuz I want him to be on the roster next year, but if he puts up avg numbers the rest of the way, Dusty will use it aganist him..

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 19, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I wish he would just crush it and get a few no doubters… we could use it for next year

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have too

unfortunately, I’m not sure that’s the kind of thing the Reds are impressed by

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we've posted comparison photos before.

He’s closer to Count Chocula. Seriously.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am one of the biggest Rosales bashers to be sure

But I watched him stand and sign autographs Monday at King’s Island for a an hour if not more. While on his “lunch break” when he should have been getting somethig to eat. I have a TON of respect for him, he’s a really good guy. Whether or not he hits worth a shit in the majors it’s obvious he’s a good person. Good job, mom. :)

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Janish and Rosales

both tied at .204. It’s a race to the Mendoza line!

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like Arroyo

if nothing else, gets a lot of GIDPs.

by wishfuldrifter on Aug 19, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

They're talking about Dusty letting Homer fail to teach him

If that’s the case, I feel sorry for Darren when Dusty teaches him to swim. Ohio River and a rowboat is what I’m thinking.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess that explains Taveras too

by now he’s gotta be the smartest guy on the team

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubb's just had his first taken pitch.

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

and promptly strikes out

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

so does everyone else

For this game.

It’s a no-hitter!

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

.000 OPS

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Aug 19, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

.000 wOBA

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that better than Willy?

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm, don't you mean the Red Sox?

They’re the only team that matters in that game, dummy

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

nonsense

Everyone’s watching to see Encarnacion and Roenicke.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that famous EdE nation

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Josh Roenicke game-worn rookie jersey is now available. :)

"There's nothing cool about your game." - Jeff Brantley, talking smack about Nyjer Morgan.

by PeteyHendrix on Aug 19, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ass!

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 19, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's up, dirty dogs?

What happened to Jo-eh?

I have robot insurance.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 19, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

no word yet

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Matt Cain a strikeout pitcher now?

As I recall from previous fantasy seasons, that was not the case.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2009 8:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

thru 4 innings

52 pitches for both guys!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Aug 19, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

everyone wants to go home on time

rain delay be damned!

Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry

by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

good gravy

It’s the 5th inning. Jo-eh was pulled in the first, and there’s still no explanation?

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

That play in the outfield did not look good

Stubbs should have taken that one and called off Balentien and Janish.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Any word on Votto?

I haven’t seen any reason given for his leaving the game…

by spf65 on Aug 19, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm thinking

It’s probably a relapse.

If it was a hamstring or the flu, they’d have said so by now.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 19, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

This just in

Janish is good with the glove.

by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

So THAT'S why we called him up. Gotcha.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Joey Votto out due to blurry vision

Jesus H. Christ.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Aug 19, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Weathers report

gave up the first double of the season for the pitcher and now he can’t cover 1st and gets an error. Oh, and FSN filling time with plenty of Weathers.

by ol Pete on Aug 19, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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