Game 118 Thread 2: Leads are for wimps, and good teams
by Slyde on Aug 18, 2009 8:56 PM EDT
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PrintHomer's out and it's 5-5 in the 6th.
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Your previous first isn't inspiring confidence that this thread will be any better
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Aug 18, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris: "It's better than the league average. In fact, it's better...BETTER than the league average."
indeed.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Aug 18, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not in my case
I piss excellence no matter how hot I get.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
"you've got to play this as a one run game and beat lincecum at his own game, which is smal ball"
i don’t think i understand chris’s statement
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tim lincecum has undersized testicles
it is quiet sad and a little disgusting for his lady friends.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's dating somebody from Canada
you wouldn’t know her.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I'm dating someone from three states away
You guys totally wouldn’t know her. :)
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
"Now, Dusty's probably going to play it like a one-run ball game"
when does Dusty ever play it differently?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
He's not very good.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
slicing up carlos mencia
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Aug 18, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
damn, can't believe I'm your first in this case.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
"can't win for losing"
losing is usually what stops you from winning, but thanks for the wisdom kelch
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I bet those kids from the Verizon commercial end up killing their parents
I imagine it will be in a brutal fashion.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
i had the pleasure of talking to a verizon support rep today
he was a retard
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Holy shit Taveras totally misplayed that ball
terrible
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
and Chris excuses it
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Just saw it/heard it...
That’s B.S.! “Unless you’re breaking at the crack of the bat…”
Well, crack might be involved in the explanation, but that’s it…
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Aug 18, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
he definitely misread it
whether or not he could have caught it is debatable, but his effort after the misread was less than enthralling.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I said the same thing watching
He took a terrible route.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
And Willy Taveras takes a ridiculous route to a catchable ball
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
He broke left first
Let’s face it, Willy sucks on balls over his head (insert Dusty Baker joke here).
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
that's dirty
which is why I rec’d it
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
has there been conversation around here about who's worse:
T-Virus or C-Pat?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
Remember that Opening Day triple?
When Darnell McDonald was the only cloud on our above .500 horizon?
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Aug 18, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Tough call, honestly
CPat had the potential for the occasional XBH, and it’s a wash defensively. Either way I’d rather have my buts smashed with a mallet than have either block the way of Drew Stubbs.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
No eye at the plate, no eye in the field
Willy’s at bat music should be “Three Blind Mice”
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pedro Martinez won't lose...
Jayson Werth doubles in Chase Utley…
SIGH! Talent is such a luxury!
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
Fancy leather couches are a luxury too
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Can I trade my leather couch
for Raul Ibanez and Jayson Werth batting 5 and 6 in the Reds lineup? What will my faux-suede couch get me? It’s Red!!!
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Aug 18, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Jamie Moyer out of the 'pen to start the 4th...
How often does Pedro Martinez get relieved by a pitcher that’s OLDER than he is?
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Aug 18, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
let Wayne Krivksy build the bullpen behind him
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shaq is one of the best interviews EVAR when properly approached
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
It's Afflack
And his miniscule ERA.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
DVRing this
I can’t see it being bad though
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Aug 18, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he went on conan the other day to promote it
it was awkward at times, but always fun
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
he just made Willy look stupid
if he had immediately thrown it to first, nobody would have noticed that he didn’t run out of the box.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
but Affeldt is good
and he is more likely to be good next year.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to have Affeldt back,
but he’s making 8 mil over 2 years, twice as much as Rhodes.
If we’d have given Affeldt that kind of money, we couldn’t have signed Taveras!
/sigh
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
or he is making $1 million more than he made for the Reds in 2008.
The Reds could have resigned him, and not signed the T-Virus or Rhodes, and put that money else where.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
MAKE YOUR LINKS POP PLEASE, KTHXBYE
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
there's a girl interviewing big ben in the locker room and she asked him if he was nervous
i think it is she that should be nervous
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by 'tHan on Aug 18, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
as long as she doesn't fix his TV
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
It's like a reverse plot for a porn
Normally it’s the dude that arrives to fix the cable or the TV, no?
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 18, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
ben roethlisberger rapes women
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Aug 18, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny because it's true'd
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
Rec'd for ripping a Miami (OH) grad
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Aug 18, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
"Nice of Roethlisberger to take time off from raping women to do this show" ~ Chan
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Aug 18, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's August 18
And Welsh is explaining to us that Paul Janish is known for his DEFENSE – it’s his bat that is the question mark.
Did you guys know this?
by Brian B on Aug 18, 2009 9:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A relief pitcher
who needs a LOT of rest between appearances
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Aug 18, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
was he
part of the Rolen deal?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Not to be Debbie Downer, but
Jo-eh has been striking out a crazy amount the last few weeks
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
It's a product of trying too hard combined with no protection in the lineup
I mean, who are you going to pitch to? The guy who hits over .300 with power, or the guy who falls down swinging at the first pitch?
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
or the guy guys who fall down swing at the first pitch
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not wearing his socks high enough
And if only Dunn listened to Chris welsh when Welsh told him, repeatedly apparently, that if he wore his socks higher, he’d get more walks.
by Brian B on Aug 18, 2009 9:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Or go back to hitting .280 once he left Cincinnati
Ya know, either way. :)
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Our hitting coach could probably help him....
Oh, right. The entire coaching staff is fucking useless. My bad.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
So let's set odds that El Nino Destructor gets called up to the big club in September and Stubbs/Heisey are left down
Juan is 2-4 with a 2B and HR tonight, and is hitting .400/.438/.933 through his first 4 games
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
I think Heisey and Stubbs will get called up
They have to be added to the roster before November. Might as well give them a look-see.
Unless the Reds are too cheap.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
He has no business in the majors
Anyone with a decent changeup will kill him. That said it will be a popular callup and will probably happen.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Ugh
We have to stick around through the commercial before getting the update on Willy?
by Brian B on Aug 18, 2009 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
the white soxs game i went to yesterday
had a crowd of 36K, it was a monday evening game, they played the Royals, and there was an hour rain delay.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
They're a contending team in the third or fourth largest market
I do agree with you about that stadium. Nice play to watch a game. Though Wrigley’s better if you want to watch … other things.
if it wasn't for Ozzie Guillen and A.J. Perzeinski I could adopt the White Sox
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
my mom, grandfather, and great grandfather are all white sox fans
so it is also in the family. I was happy for my grandfather when the Soxs won it all in 2005.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Aug 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what? you suck.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Wait until just after Thanksgiving, then ask this question
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
I love Ozzie as well
He has absolutely no sense of PC, which I find endearing.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Hi Hello and welcome.
This is Gapper Coming to you live from GABP. Can someone confirm that it is The Big Unit hanging over the dugout rail?
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
by Gapper on Aug 18, 2009 9:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I swear to God.....
Gapper, you abominable merging of the Phillie Phanatic and Izzy the Atlanta Olympics mascot, I say this to you — DIE IN A MOTHERFUCKING FIRE.
Love,
jch24
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Is this that Kelch fella you've all been talking about?
by Brian B on Aug 18, 2009 9:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chris at Redleg Nation posted this comment
“Grande:Kelch = Taveras:Dickerson”
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi Hello and welcome.
This is Gapper Coming to you live from GABP. Can someone confirm that it is The Big Unit hanging over the dugout rail?
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
by Gapper on Aug 18, 2009 9:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I swear i only pressed the button once.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
by Gapper on Aug 18, 2009 9:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How did Taveras hurt himself?
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
strained quadriceps
re-examined tomorrow
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I guess there are certain types of players that don't do well in hot weather
by ken on Aug 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Dickerson our starting CFer
Yay.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
unfortunately, as is the custom, Taveras will just be day-to-day
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I'm going to be disappointed in a way if he is out for a while
his continued march towards record setting futility will have to be put on hold
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
You know, for a second there I thought Dusty pulled him for not hustling
I plead temporary insanity, that would never happen.
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone's hanging their unit over the dugout rail?
They should be wary of foul balls.
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Dusty looks like Michael Douglas
when he was in that movie Falling Down. Must be the glasses.
now we're twice as haunted
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
He took his ball and went home
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Aug 18, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm loving the silence between pitchers
by Brian B on Aug 18, 2009 9:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm loving the silence between pitches
Thank you Kelch!
by Brian B on Aug 18, 2009 9:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rosales, Hanigan, Janish
One of these is not like the others, one of these is not the same.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
by sidnancy on Aug 18, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
oh look, bottom of the ninth
luckily theres a ufo show on abc, so i can focus on the reds
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
is the money you could be saving with Geico related to Oobi?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
BONUS BASEBALL!
Who else is excited?!
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
I know that cocktail
it’s called the “white trash”
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
CoCo in a non-save situation
UH-OH
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
Hal ripped Taveras on his blog
Pinch-hitter Freddie Lewis hit a ball to dead center. As he has done so often this year, center fielder Willy Taveras broke poorly on the ball, running laterally to his left before realizing the ball was over his head. It fell for a double.
He doesn’t get on base. When he does he doesn’t steal when it is needed. He was brought in to be a leadoff hitter and couldn’t do it and is now batting second. And he is below average in the field. What can Taveras do? He has a nice stereo set in the clubhouse that plays loud, headache-inducing salsa music.
And holy cahooties. Taveras just hit a ground ball to the mound and trotted toward first base. Didn’t run. Jogged. Stopped before he got to the bag. Manager Dusty Baker immediately yanked him from the lineup, replacing him with Laynce Nix.
The Reds later announced that Taveras has a strained right quadriceps muscle. I don’t question the injury, but it was awfully convenient
As far as I’m concerned, and many other fans are concerned, Taveras can rot on the bench the rest of the season. I’ve seen nothing to merit the millions the Reds have flushed down the toilet when they brought this guy in.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Aug 18, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
i'd like to hear more about this sound system and the salsa music
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by 'tHan on Aug 18, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
As much as it sucks that we're losing Hal's coverage after the season
The next month and a half are going to be AWESOME.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
Hal doesn't have to pull any punches anymore
He’s gone, so who cares if he hurts some Walt or Bob or Dusty feelings.
Although I’m sure he will still do some writing in his “retirement.”
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Aug 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
SO GREEN'D
no wonder he’s in the hall of fame !
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Aug 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck, Coco
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
washington lost
but pittsburgh won, so we’ll make up a game on them. Kansas City’s up. Could be a productive day.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
I wonder if the powers that be in DC are really hoping they don't get the first pick again
they can’t be looking forward to ponying up even more cash for Bryce Harper
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Eh, what else will they spend it on?
After next year, Dunn (10M) and Guzman (8) are off the books. Kearns, Dmitri, and Belliard come off after this year. They already have Zimmerman locked up through 2013. Don’t know what they will do, but they shouldn’t be afraid to open up the wallet on the draft for the next few seasons.
I don't know
I’d hate to have $30M tied up in two players who’ve barely played in the minors. But, it’s not my money, I guess.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Maybe I just think that $15M is a lot of money, even if it is over 4 years
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
You say "or so" like there's gonna be more than 16
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
Yeah, it will be less
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
I don't get the innuendo
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Agreed, except
Strasburg should be on the MLB roster some time next year, Harper is going to take a bit longer, and it’s a lot to pay for a minor leaguer
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
It is a lot
And I don’t know anything about Harper other than he’s supposed to be the snacks. But if you get a chance to grab frontline talent without having to bid against other clubs, you do it. Especially if you’re in dire need of talent.
Agreed, but Harper is only 16
Having that much money wrapped up in 2 unproven talents, one a 16 year old, the other a pitcher, is INCREDIBLY risky.
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
TRADE COCO BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!1
by Dave from Louisville on Aug 18, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Brewers fans
already love Weathers (not)
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Aug 18, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
already he coughed up a win with a meatball over the plate
but first he threw a bunch of balls and got cranky with the ump
whats the point?
Jus let Cordero finish it out for crying out loud
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Aug 18, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Don't you know a righty NEVER faces a lefty
plus, we’ve got to keep it close so our juggernaut offense can mount a comeback
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
See how well that worked out?
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
okay
now we only need that juggernaut offense to mount that comeback
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Aug 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
YOUR 2009 Cincinnati Reds!!!
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
Trade Cordero and make Arthur the closer
by Dave from Louisville on Aug 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
I still think you overestimate the easiness of trading CoCo
First, his no trade clause,
Second, his salary for the next 2+ years
Third, his age.
I think if someone was willing to take the salary he’d be long gone by now
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
I don't know
There are no reports of him clearing waivers yet.
by Dave from Louisville on Aug 18, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we wait till the offseason
when he loses the no trade
by Dave from Louisville on Aug 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
his no trade becomes limited no trade
which will help, but there are still limits
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
i bet he would accept for a contender
by Dave from Louisville on Aug 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If Walt made it clear they were going into rebuilding mode
I bet they’d get him to agree to go just about anywhere. This season has probably sucked for him worse than anyone, and he’s gotta know he’s got limited time to still be an effective closer.
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
i agree, and walt runs tight ship
unlike that fucking media circus in toronto
by Dave from Louisville on Aug 18, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
not everyone gets reported
it’s not supposed to be public knowledge
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I felt like he got to the point where he was simply baiting people
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Bet we see Barker make his debut tonight
DRH is due up 3rd and there’s a righty on the mound
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
Kevin Barker, hero?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
ha
touche
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Aug 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
struck out last Saturday
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
anddd
struck out tonight
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Aug 18, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
At least he's consistent
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
Joe Morgan is a fan
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
HERE WE GO KEVIN
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
Brian Wilson is a beast, I didn't know he threw 98
Pretty impressive for not leaving your bedroom for 20 years
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
by nycredsfan on Aug 18, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
celia'd
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I noticed that
he’s dirty, which is why I rec’d him.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
thats what he said !
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Aug 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the Reds 6th losing streak of 4 or more games this season.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
for those that don't know the rules
this means the baby goes back under the basket.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
How can I text into the post game show?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
Anyone else see the Reds losing 100 this year?
They need to go 12 and 32 the rest of the way. They’re 8 and 22 since the All-Star break.
Just being realistic
8 and 22 is a .363 winning percentage, 12 and 32 is a .375. They’re perfectly positioned to lose 100 at this point.
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just kidding
Your handle is masochist yet you have a lot of posts about pain other than self inflicted.
Yeah I'm only a masochist as it applies to Cincinnati sports teams
I keep coming back for more abuse. Actually I’m hoping for a really ugly number just because 100 losses tends to stick in people’s minds and help facilitate some changes. It’s the same kind of reasoning that had me hoping the Bengals would go winless last year. I know nothing will change, but darn hope is hard to extinguish.
by RedsMasochist on Aug 18, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone catch this gem at the end of Hal's blog post
AND THE Reds and Giants aren’t just competing this week for wins and losses. Insiders say it is down to the Reds and the Giants over who might get outfielder Bill Hall, let go by the Milwaukee Brewers.
The Brewers would like to have Aaron Harang, which would make the salary switch about equal and give both players a new lease on their baseball life.
Harang for Bill Hall straight up? Fuck you if you’re even considering this. He’s had a free fall decline to Alex Gonzalez levels since ‘06, the Brewers are going to have to eat his salary if they don’t trade him and that’s still might not be enough leverage to avoid dealing away a pitcher who is, as it stands, your most reliable starter.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 18, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
Bill Hall is coming
I’m convinced of it. Looks like it’s just a matter of how stupid they’re going to be. Are they going to send Travis Wood? Why not Johnny Cueto? Sending anyone above a scrub minor leaguer for someone who’s a bench bat and going to be a free agent because no one but the Reds are this interested in trading for him would cement the Reds as the most clueless franchise in baseball.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 19, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Go Giants!
Get Bill Hall. For no other reason than to prevent him from being a Red.
by RedsMasochist on Aug 19, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The Brewers have virtually no leverage here right?
Hall has sucked for three years running and if they don’t trade him in the next several days they get nothing. If the Giants and Reds are smart – which they aren’t – they would both lowball the Brewers, who should be lucky to get a mid-level prospect or a moticum of cash.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 19, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
moticum
Sounds like a classic redreporter malapropism.
But I would think getting a million or so would be enough to get him. I think Harang might be done at the same time, but maybe he’s sort of a salary dump as well. I don’t think Harang could be traded any more this year. I wonder if trades can be agreed to and executed after the season.
Bill Hall has sucked offensively for a while, but he’s a really good infielder. He can play SS too.
Just what the Doctor ordered
Another over the hill, overpaid vet,,,another pipe dream player…
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How about Hall and Hardy?
That for Harang straight up wouldn’t be so terrible, assuming they take on the bagillions of backloaded $$ Harang is owed…
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 19, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
That deal would only be OK if the Brewers took Harang's whole salary AND a bunch of Hall's
Otherwise Hall in that deal brings the value down for the Reds.
I’ll amend my trade idea from earlier
Harang+Taveras for Hall+Hardy+$4 million
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Why would the Brewers give us money?
They would be taking on $19M in salary and the Reds would only be taking ~$14M. If anything, the Reds would need to add money to the deal.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
and don't you think that Taveras brings the value of the deal down as much as, if not more than Hall?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Don't you think Harang+Taveras bring more value than Hall+Hardy?
I know Taveras sucks, you know Taveras sucks, but he’s only 27 and super fast. Plus, Harang is the only player in that deal likely to be worth the money next year. He’s already been worth 10 mil this year with 9ish starts left. Taveras -1.8mil. Hall’s been worth $200k, Hardy 6.4mil. So you figure, roughly based on performance thus far, Harang+Taveras will net provide 11mil or so of value this year, Hardy+Hall 6.5 mil, and since the Brewers clearly don’t want either player, their value is really low right now.
For 19m the Brewers probably get about 11-12 mil in value (more if Taveras is used as a 4th OF) and for 14 mil the Reds get about 6.5mil in value. The deficit in value is similar, but since the Brewers two players are unwanted and the Brewers backs are against the wall with Hall, they should have to give up some money as well. 3-4mil seems reasonable.
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
*disclaimer
Both my math and logic are probably really, really flawed there
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
I think you are oversimplifying
First, you are assuming that Hardy’s true level is what he put up this season. I think it’s more likely around $10-12M, at least. Whatever his value, I think it’s safe to say that he’s probably the only player in the deal that is worth more than he will be paid.
Second, you’re talking theoretical money, when there is real money involved. Regardless of value, I don’t imagine that the Brewers are going to make a deal that costs them an extra $9 million. Wouldn’t they be better off just keeping Hardy and cutting their losses on Hall?
The real problem I see is that I think Harang for Hardy is a legitimate deal straight up (though the Reds might have to help cover at least the rise in cost because Harang is dealt – say $2.5M). I don’t see how it benefits the Brewers to add Bill Hall just to get Willy Taveras and then, by your suggestion, they suddenly have to throw in $4M.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
fair point but
The deal on the table is Harang for Hall, not for Hardy, and if that’s the case I’m demanding something significant in addition to even the deal. If Harang for Hardy is even then the presence of Hall means the trade is tilted towards the Brewers. Maybe just adding Taveras makes it even but I don’t think he has the negative trade value we think he does because other GMs may not hate him with the passion RRs do
Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.— Bill Terry
by nycredsfan on Aug 19, 2009 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What a terribel trade that would be
Hall would have no bearing on the future of this team except to keep steering it over the cliff of continued losing, Harang has returned to a strong level of performance and while ealier I was frustrated enough to call for him to be traded, i was wrong. Hall replaces no one and then who would replace Harang?
Maybe the same guy that replaced Dunn……
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Hall for Harang?
Ugh. If this actually happens, we know that yes, the people running this team really are idiots.
I hope Hal is wrong, wrong, wrong about this…
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