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"Go now and die in what way seems best to you." Reds lose in convincing fashion, 9-6.

Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Chan Ho Park.  Threw three shutout innings of relief, allowing no hits and striking out 4.  He also stayed in to bat and singled.

Key Plays

  • The Reds started positively.  Ramon Hernandez walked to lead off the second inning, and Jonny Gomes hit a single.  Then Edwin Encarnacion hit a triple to drive them both in, and Micah Owings helped his own cause with a sac fly.  The Reds were leading 3-0 and spirits were high.
  • In a foreshadowing of ugliness to come, Chase Utley hit a sharp ball to centerfield that took a nasty bounce on Willy Taveras.  Utley was able to scoot all the way home with an inside-the-park home run.  Ryan Howard and Jayson Werth followed that with back to back doubles, and suddenly the Reds only led by one.
  • That is until Edwin homered in the fourth inning!
  • In the bottom half the of the inning, Carlos Ruiz and Jimmy Rollins singled, then the NL's newest All-Star, Shane Victorino, hit a ball that Brandon Phillips badly misplayed.  It went into centerfield and was scored a single, but Ruiz and Rollins both scored and the game was tied.
  • Phillips made amends, however, with the Reds last hurrah.  After replacement right fielder Chris Dickerson did something that Jay Bruce can't do (get a hit), Phillips hit his third home run in two games to put the Reds up 6-4.
  • The fifth inning was the undoing for Micah Owings, as he walked Ryan Howard and Greg Dobbs.  Dick Pole went out to the mound to talk to him, and told Micah to give Pedro Feliz something to hit.  He did, and Feliz's single scored Howard.  Josh Roenicke then came in and walked noted Canadian Matt Stairs, and gave up a run on noted suckbucket Paul Bako's force out.  The Reds might have had a double play, but Roenicke didn't cover first.  Out came Dusty, in came Danny Ray Herrera, and into the outfield went a batted ball from Jimmy Rollins.  Feliz came into score.  Victorino drew a walk, then Danny Ray threw a pitch under the glove of Ramon Hernandez and Bako came in to score.  Just like that, the Reds were losing 8-6.
  • And because what's a game against the Phillies without a Jayson Werth home run, Jayson Werth homered off of Danny Ray in the sixth.
  • 7-9-09_medium

    via FanGraphs

    (There are a bunch of really cool FanGraphs for games tonight.  Lots of wild ones.)

Other Notes

  • The Phillies are averaging 8.1 runs in Jamie Moyer's wins.  That sound you just heard was Aaron Harang punching a hole through a concrete wall.
  • After this game, the Phillies have four players with 20 or more home runs (Raul Ibanez, Howard, Werth, and Utley).  Jayson Werth homered in each of the games against the Reds.
  • This is just the fourth series the Phillies have won in Philadelphia.
  • On the bright side, Joey Votto has a 12 game hitting streak, a career-high.
  • Use the rest of the space to bemoan the umpiring, the death of Reds contention, or your hopes for what the Reds offense will do in the new pitcher friendly Citi Field.

  • Final - 7.9.2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 RHE
    Cincinnati Reds 0 3 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 6 8 0
    Philadelphia Phillies 0 0 2 2 4 1 0 0 X 9 12 0

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by jch24 on Jul 10, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, this series did it futioror me

The Reds have a base of a winning team, but it’s maxed and there aren’t significant contributors on the way from the Minors. Where I was a buyer a few days ago, this team showed me the bullpen was regressing to its mean, Arroyo can pitch, Harang is iffy, and Micah can’t getg lefties out. Anyone else have some ideas? Harang has value, but I hate to trade a above average starter.

I would trade Arroyo, Cordero, Weathers, Rhodes, EdE and any spare part for a decent bat to contribute next year or an SS (Harang and someone else for Kyle Drabek and the Phils SS prospect?)

There’re going to be a rash of teams near the deadline who are ready to give away players and the Phils are buying now. Before they buy Holliday, let’s move some folks.

by timb116 on Jul 10, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Throw in Ramon too.

I don’t think I’d be too upset if those guys got traded, if we truly fall out of contention and don’t get out of the funk. I’m not completely sure the year is a bust yet.

by jsl413 on Jul 10, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree up until this series

This series and the Cardinal series confirm what I had been denying: the offense on this team is so poor, that even good starters, backed by an average bullpen (which, let’s face it, has been pitching over its head so far…the exposure of Danny Ray and Weathers has been brutal) can’t succeed. I disagreed with Slyde’s point on Jacoby earlier today and I continue to believe it is not his fault that this team cannot score runs (and, when they do, they face a team of murderous lefties with a pitcher who cannot get lefties out!). I think there will be a rash of sellers and the time to move in this trade market is soon.

by timb116 on Jul 10, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 1/2 games out

Just sayin’. I know that the team we’ve seen the last few days definitely isn’t capable of coming back from that, but I’m gonna give it another week or so before I start the fire sale.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 10, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admire your optimism.

4 and a half games and four teams, two of which (the Cubs and Cards, IMHO) are better than the Reds

by timb116 on Jul 10, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards aren't better if Pujols gets hurt, and the Cubs are the Cubs

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 10, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cordero has a no-trade clause

This should be an automated responses whenever “Cordero” and “trade” come up in the same sentence.

Nobody’s going to take Arroyo with his contract when he freely admits he’s pitching hurt. I’d hate to trade Harang because we have him locked up for a few more years, but if the Phillies get desperate, of course we should listen. The rumor du jour is Roy Halladay. If that falls through Harang would be a nice plan B for Philly (they want an arm not a bat, so Holliday is out), who has a win-now roster and may be one of the few teams willing to add payroll. They sold out most of this past series and they were playing us on weekdays.

by ken on Jul 10, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What we need is some (lineup) protection

Thank you EDSBS!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 10, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scrappy replacement Reds Hit Their Mean

This team is not talented enough to susstain being in contention.
No LF,No CF, RF needs to go down and work on his shit.
BP would be batting 6th or 7th for the Phils or dodgers
Gonzo is below league average, the Reds rreally need a first rate SS
EdE has talent but not consistency, esp. when facing quality pitchers
Hanigan should be starting
Bronson shouldbe traded along with Burton, Lincon and Roenicke.Taveris, Hernandez and Jannish. These guys are not good enough to be on a winning team.
DRH is marginal, Fisher ain’t terrible. although he’s expensive Coco is good enough.

Dusty is a dinosauer,

Going to be a long 2nd half…but maybe Frazier will be brought up later., but I agree with the prevailing sentiment..its time to dump some these marginal guys and see what we can pick up for 2010 at the trade deadline. Hell we could possibly be close enough to still climb back into the race this year. but not with what we have now.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Jul 10, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess it's because I feel like we're out of contention now

That I feel so down about this last couple of losses. I’m dejected and the only thing I really wanted out of this (other than a continuing hit streak for Votto which thankfully happend), a nice pitch hitting Werth didn’t happen!

I’m not fully serious about the last one, but the hope has gone, time for the bitterness. Bitter games can be fun too, I just wish this team would make up its mind and lose, or win. No more of this stuff where they look alright then crater. It’s giving me a condition lol.

I do have an idea, though, to snap losing streaks. Until they can get it together and win, they all have to wear pink jerseys with bunnies on them. I think it might be a powerful motivator. I hate to make them all wear it because they aren’t all equally sucking, but that peer pressure might come in handy! That or the bullpen must be publically punished.

by Red_Poodle on Jul 10, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I watched the last three innings of that spectacular Diamondbacks game last night

The eighth inning was epic. So much so that half way through it, I sensed we were on the verge of something special (Reds fans have that special sense) and I hit the record button. I’m gong to go back and watch it again tonight. Arizona was only charged with 2 errors in the eighth, but each infielder could have had an error charged to him in that inning AFTER the Marlins took the lead. plus a passed ball or two on the catcher. And Augie Ojeda almost drilled the second cut off man in the back of the head on a play. What a game.

What was great about it was that the Diamondbacks announcers (Grace and ?) were monitoring the win probability graphs. At one point, Arizona had a 98% win probability.

by Brian B on Jul 10, 2009 8:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Darren Sutton

former Brewers play by play

by ol Pete on Jul 10, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm optimistic about this series

Because the mets are a mess right now. Also, since the reds have won the two games in NYC that I’ve attended, it’s only reasonable to believe that they’ll win all three this weekend, being that I’m going to be there.

It’s so nice having the world revolve around me!

by thevole on Jul 10, 2009 8:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

While the StL series was maddening

this series was just depressing and not just because of what happened on Monday night. This team can get no traction whatsoever and it doesn’t seem to be improving over the course of the season. In fact, it seems they have regressed significantly.

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by xjjeep90 on Jul 10, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to trade Harang under any circumstances

and I think Walt and Co. share that sentiment. He needs to be our rock solid 3rd starter next year behind Volquez and Cueto. I don’t think you get much return for any of the other veterans, though it would be nice to clear some salary.

Offensively, our entire outfield has been bogus save for Gomes vs. lefties. Throw in another offensive wasteland at SS and you’ve got half your lineup against righties likely to be at replacement level. This is a formula that virtually assures a 78-82 win season.

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 10, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Utley HR

From the replay I saw, the bounce didn’t look that unusual given the angle of the wall. Taveras should’ve positioned himself better, though backup from Dickerson would’ve helped.

by ken on Jul 10, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

trade EE

I swear it seems like he has the same number of rbi as Owings in like twice the at bats.

Time to cut bait.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 10, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What have you done for me lately?

"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"

by Ash on Jul 10, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rolen

Rumor is the Reds are talking to the Jays….who turned down EE and a prospect for Rolen. Evidently Toronto has noooooooooo interest in Edwin.

Smart front office there.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 10, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JP Ricciardi? Ahahahahaha.

He hates Adam Dunn.

Also, Scott Rolen is old, and I presume, expensive. Meh.

"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"

by Ash on Jul 10, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will you stop it already. EdE has more talent in one pinky than the entire

Rosales family. His contract is reasonable. The only reason to trade him is because you could package some chaff with him. He’s the one 25 HR guy in the line up who doesn’t bat from the left side.

by timb116 on Jul 10, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Phillips?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 10, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think BP is more of a 20 HR guy

slight differentiation.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 10, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hit 30 in '07.

I agree, he’s not a 25HR guy, but he does have the capability. More so than EdE this season, at least.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 10, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

broken wrist

/ash’d

BP also led the league in “Lucky” home runs the year he hit 30. When he’s at his best, BP is a 23 HR guy (by my estimation). Obviously, he can hit more than that, but I think that’s when he’s fortunate. Not that I’d mind if he hit more.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 10, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

again

BP has hit 30 and 21 homers in his best two seasons (and on pace for 28 this year)

Edwin has 26 and 16 in his best two seasons.

Bp is a gold glover with speed on the basepaths. no comparison.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 10, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's just baiting Ash (and others apparently)

we had to listen to his crap all night last night at the burger joint. He’s got no argument. He’s just trying to needle.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 10, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

send his ass back to louisville!

amirightash?

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Jul 10, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he would be with his boy...

"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"

by Ash on Jul 10, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EE is a league average 3B, at best

 middle of the pack.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 10, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Adam Rosales is right where he belongs.

"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"

by Ash on Jul 10, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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