Reds lose 10-1 and it wasn't as close as the score implies.
by Slyde on Jul 5, 2009 4:49 PM EDT
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PrintDo we really need to recap today's craptacular performance? No.
Do we need to let loose and blow off some steam? Yes.
Weekends like this don't ruin the season, but they sure make it hard to be a contender. The Reds are still at .500. In this division, that means they are still in it. Does that make you feel any better?
In other news, in case you haven't heard, Francisco Cordero is the Reds lone All Star. I'm really disappointed that Joey Votto won't be there. I understand why he's not, but nobody else deserves it more on this team.
Use this thread to vent or be optimistic or realistic or whatever. Here are some questions for you to ponder:
* Bronson Arroyo - why isn't he on the DL yet?
* Homer Bailey - was Friday night an anomaly?
* Who was the biggest All Star snub - not just from the Reds?
* Can the Reds take 3 of 4 from the Phillies?
* Who is better at their sport, Tiger Woods or Roger Federer?
Enjoy the waining hours of your holiday weekend!
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I think Cueto has earned a spot
and he should hit Ryan Howard in the hand for not getting picked for the All Star Game.
Bloop
The Reds most definitely can take 3 of 4 against the Phillies.
Just look at which pitcher won’t be starting in that series.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
On second thought,
after seeing the picture above, there is another who can scuttle our hopes and ruin games…
I just hope someone reminds Phillips, Votto, Cueto, et al, that the opposing manager Charlie Manuel is the one who decided they weren’t good enough to be All-Stars.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
by Gapper on Jul 5, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kemp is a big omission
But I’m sure he’ll be named with Ibanez and Beltran out.
Who is better at their sport, Tiger Woods or Roger Federer?
Lance.
Missing a letter?
I’m pretty sure there’s a ‘y’ in there somewhere.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
Things I want to change about the all-star game..
1) No more fan voting. Guys like Josh Hamilton, as talented as he is, shouldn’t be in the all star game. Fan voting only leads to past player performance and big-market bias, this is why you see half of the AL squad consist of Red Sox and Yankees players every year and big names hitting under .250 starting.
2) Want to make it fan-friendly? Then stop making the winner of the all-star game get home field advantage of the world series and let the players have fun in the game. Heck, maybe even do some kind of stunt where a fan gets the chance to pitch in the middle of the game or try and hit off one of the pitchers.
3) No more 1 player from each team rule… This year it’s not as much of a problem as it usually is, but I for one hate seeing guys become “all stars” because they happen to be the best player on a crappy, crappy team even if their stats are subpar.
60% of the time it works everytime
I'm old school
I like fan voting because it is a means to keep fans interested in a long and often boring season. i also believe that every team must be represented…is it fair nah…but life ain’t fair and again it is good PR – in the last 8 seasons one of the main reasons I turn into the ASG is to see how our guy does. I mean everyone already knows that the AL will win.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
i concur with you mads
will you join my clique, or can I join yours? Maybe we could merge cliques?
Bloop
Exhibition-game winner getting home field advantage in the finals
Right up there with the XFL in stupid sports ideas.
1.) Because apparently his carpal tunnel isn’t causing him any problems with his pitching…from his words.
2.) No…I think Bailey has finally began to live his to his potential.
3.) Biggest All-Star Snub…Pablo Sandoval from the San Fransisco Giants.
4.) Yes…they can take 3 of 4 from the Phillies…but its unlikely.
6.) Tiger is definately more dominant than Federer…I don’t even think Federer is the most dominant in his own sport anymore…I think Rafael Nadal took over that spot.
Can Federer play center field instead of Taveras?
And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...
by Paul Householder on Jul 5, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions
Not to be a bigger prick than usual
but did anyone THINK they were going to win this one? That’s why Firday’s all-bullpen suckfest hurt so much. The Reds couldn’t beat Carpenter if they were given four outs an inning and spotted a baserunner. They are that bad and he is that good
maybe not
But I did hope we’d do better than 10-1.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Me too
I wanted it to be at least mildly competitive—te way Arroyo’sstart ended up being in Toronto.
I do think we can beat the Phillies
I was there when Harang started against them at home and he dominated
About now is where I was last year re: Arroyo
get him out of town any way you can and tha t sort of thing. About that time he reeled off quite a few decent starts. My patience is wearing thin, however, and I may have to call Walt personally.
Now, if they can start him on three days rest against the Mets, he reel off a 2-1 win. That dude is just baffling.
VERY sadly
but at least Roenicke got that hyped up guy out. This series has engendered an incredible anmosity towards the Cardnials in me. Even after we got mowed down by the Brewers, I wasn’t this angry
Too many stupid names on that team for one thing!
i know
i have a strange hatred for the Cardinals, that I do not harbor for the Astro’s, Cubs, or Brewers. Something about St. Louis erks me.
Bloop
There was some smugness about them
maybe it stems from Larussa or maybe it was Pujols’ complaining about Bailey and that awful grand slam that has set me off
Whatever it is, they just rile me up like no other team.
The Brewers are coming to town soon, maybe lightning will strike twice lol
i think some of it is the national media coverage of them too
i remember watching a lot of Fox Saturday Cardinal games with Joe Buck and Tim McCarther, who do everything but suck Prince Albert.
Bloop
That is a big part of it
I think I’ve developed a bit of a sublatern complex because of the Cincy coverage. If we won every game form here on in, I thnk they would still be laying out the velvet carpet for Pujols
Although I've never met Tony LaLoser
I’ve never like the guy…he too fucking smug for moi
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
Forget the DL, unless you mean discarded list
I’d rather take my chances with Volquez, Cueto, Maloney, Bailey, Harang, Owings than with any 4 of those and Arroyo.
I’m been hoping they’d shop him for the last 2 years. Unfortunatey his trade value continues to suffer as he continues to pitch to his ability (or lack thereof).
but the thing about Arroyo is
starting his next start he could just figure it out, and run of 10 or 15 good starts to finish the season.
Bloop
he definitely needs to be given that chance
if for not other reason than to make him tradeable. thiese last few starts we coudl have easily gotten out of Paul Jansh I’m afraid
in 2007 and 2008 he hit stretches like this
it is frustrating, but it seems to balance out for an average 200 inning type of season. Arroyo is a league average pitcher, who doesn’t pitch very many league average games.
Bloop
i know that he has more good than bad stretches…but ever since his 1st year in Cincy, he’s had more bad stretches than good, and i think we can get better results out of Volquez, Cueto, Maloney, Bailey, Harang, Owings.
If we’re supposedly trying to win this year, then why suffer through Arroyo’s bad stretch when we have better options?
Watching the ESPN game and listening to Morgan argue
angrily that Jermaine Dye deserves to go to the All Star game and just remembering how nice his bat would look in the Reds line-up
To answer that final question
1. Woods
2. Federer
3. Armstrong
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4. Phelps
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 5, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
Tiger Woods is the biggest waste of athletic talent in the history of sports
dude is an other-worldly talented freak and his stupid dad made him a golfer. he could have been a real athlete like a right fielder, a shooting guard, a free safety, or even a right winger, but instead he wastes it all on the most boring game in humanity. for shame.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 5, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong.
On all accounts.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 5, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
you're right
He’s totally wasting his talent:
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
oh yeah he's a successful golfer
i didnt say he wasnt. i said golf is a waste of his talents. it’s like if Van Gogh grew up and decided to take kids’ photos at Sears. he’s better than that.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 5, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Still disagree. Tiger is an OK athlete.
But as a golfer, he is sublime. Also, there is no way golf is the most boring sport in the world. Try curling, cricket, arena football, bog snorkeling, bowling, free style walking, chess (why not?) or the Eton Wall Game.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 5, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I see your point
I think playing a team sport would have hidden his talents, not glorified them more.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I think he just doesn't understand golf then
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
i enjoy tiger, but i kinda think golf sucks too
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 5, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
As a fan of a sport that gets denigrated as "boring" all the time
it infuriates me that golf is seen as acceptable to watch.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 5, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The Byron Nelson Classic? Yes.
Sunday at a major? No. Fucking. Way.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 5, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
And I’d throw in anything involving Tiger as well. Watching that guy in his prime right now, with the stigma that surrounds his every shot is definitely not boring.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 5, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I cannot fathom Farney's point
bowling is a spiritual event…if you’ve never bowled at a high level of competition then shut your Face Farns!
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
I admit, I'm not a good bowler (the West Side gods shall strike me down)
but watching bowling is the fucking terrible. That is some boring ass shit. ‘Oh, hey, look mustachioed man No. 1 just rolled an ace to defeat Beer-gutted man No. 3. THRILLING!!’
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 5, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Farney, I love you like a brother, man - but obviously you were born without the 'sportsmans'' gene
Here a couple of helpful suggestions when watching bowling:
1. Get your bowling togs on…(if you have none at least put on a Hawaiian shirt)
2.Fill the cooler with Blatz
3. Fire up a good stogy
4. You need to have a poster of the Budwieser Racing Girls (circa 1989) on the wall
5. You have turn your TV (home theatre preferably) up real loud so you can hear how the ball rolls on the oil
6. Learn the terminology, split, spare, stike, Grandma’s teeth…
7. Invite some homeless guys from a Westside shelter over to watch with you – they’ll be great mentors
8. Make certain that your girlfriend (wife etc) is wearing too much makeup and a size too small clothes
9. As the program progresses fill the glasses with Old Grandad
10. If this doesn’t get you in the mood drop several tabs of LSD and smoke a joint.
I use this format (esp. #1 and #10) when i watch golf or tennis and it works like a charm.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
I haven't bowled
outside of the Wii for years. Next time the Reds start putting together a game like this one, I might just go do that (don’t know how it would help but it might) lol
Brilliant !
A Red Reporter Bowling outing!!!
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
why is Arroyo not on the DL yet?
i think the Reds are trying to shop him. i think the hope is that he will snap out of it, make 2 great starts and prove he’s worth it, and then be shipped off for salary relief and a cheap mediocre bat. he cant improve his value on the DL. if he pitches like a bum in his next start though i think we’ll see him DL’d.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 5, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
Egg ...
is coming.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 5, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
Ha! Not quite.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 5, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What if's
If Joey Votto were is LF this year, would he have made the All-star team? Maybe not with the time he has lost, but next a move to the OF might help his chances Pujols + AG + Prince + Howard is a tough group to crack.
I say dump Arroyo for just for the salary relief then go after Tejada. Jermaine Dye would also be a great addition….if nothing else it would likely make Dusty move C Dick to CF, benching Willy T.
by Dave from Louisville on Jul 5, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
OK
lets say this is the line up and batting order:
Dickerson CF
Hanigan C
Bruce RF
Votto LF
Phillips 2B
Gomes/Hernandez 1B
EdE 3B
Cherry SS
Pitcher
It won’t happen cause Dusty ain’t built thata way
Gots to have wily in there – He’s fast
Gots to have Raymoan at C cause he’s VP
Dusty would never change a major player’s position mid season…and there I agree with him..
But I’d still love to see it.
There’s no buyers IMHO for Bronson, esp. after heannounced possible off season sugery.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
“esp. after heannounced possible off season sugery.” – and THIS is why Bronson is a complete jackass.
by ryaneversole on Jul 6, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Tiger in a close one
But that’s like asking who the greatest NL Central team is . . . in 2009. It has a lot more to do with the competition. Federer used to have such a great all court game. But he has turned into a baseline bore just lie the rest of his competition. If you are one to say “but he still wins,” then fine. If that’s what it takes to win these days, and Roger’s content with that, then that’s fine. But it’s still lame that tennis has come to this.
i was watching highlights of the 87 all star game on MLB network and they were showing the All Star Skills Competition … catchers had to hit targets from a crouching position, there was a batting skills thing, and the home run derby was one round per participant. all the scores from all the skills were added up to determine the league winner. i really wish they’d go back to something like this. it would at least make the HR derby better.
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
I don't like the current format of the derby either.
The derby winner is frequently not the player who displays the most Ruthian home run hitting prowess. Do you remember anyone from last year’s contest besides derby loser Hamilton? Also, the finals are almost always anticlimactic, it always ends like 5-3. It really drags on, although most events with Chris Berman’s constant commentary seem that way. I’d much rather see a multi-skilled competition to highlight all-around, 5-tool athletes.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
like the one that rips the elbow of my .342 hitting franchise SS?
That happened to Barry back in the day. The only skills competition I want to see is big guys hitting bombs
the Home Run Derby sucks anal vapors....unless you're under 12 years old
(yawn)
"We're going to Adonis, son"
jch24
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