Game 101, Thread 2: Still Rolen-free
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 1:53 PM EDT
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While the Reds are still horrible, we've got a bit of a game on our hands. The Padres lead 2-1, but our offense is showing signs of life. To the hit parade!
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Who leaves this guy alone in the booth?
His PBP is painful to hear.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Wow that sucked
Get first 3 guys on base with 2 XBH, and get one damn run.
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This is absurd
Nix is really terrible, I think. I was at a game a while back and some dude behind me said “I wish he could hit like he’s built”. It was a little creepy, but a sentiment I share!
So you don't like men Poodle?
I was under the impression that you….well nevermind
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 30, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
are you watching the SD broadcast?
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
I get it, that goes up there
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 30, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
it's like a finely crafted puzzle
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
that's POST OF THE GAME
Time to head out and do some work. too bad about Cueto, Harang and Owings. Even worse is how bad I feel about the offense…
Clownboy wants to be stroked by Adrian G.
Catch up with you all later…
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
Edwin seems to making a case that he wants to stay
Noone on this team likes to play well if they are being scouted
i still say harang gave up 5 in the first on purpose ...
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
It might just be that the entire team sucks,
That’s entirely plausible at this point
You ever been to the South side of Milwaukee?
Let's not let Cueto pitch throughout the offseason this time around yea?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
Are you kidding???
Look how rusty he is! He needs to pitch at least 500 innings this year to get it back.
i think he just needs a nap
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
Just got back from the game
and boy are my gums tired. Heckling your own manager can really tap a brother out.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
left kinda early didn't ya?
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
Had the kids with me
and it’s walking distance…nap time, you know.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
you still had a good six inning of heckling dustbag
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
Nah
I gave it a shot though. It seems the apathy extends to the stadium employees as well.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My oldest son (3 yrs old)
did say “what does dumb bastard mean, Pops?” Ah, the bonding moments.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Make sure he knows it only applies to Dusty, not just black men in general
And can also extend to old white guys named Walt.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And old jerks
like the vegetable man.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anybody noticed
that the padres pitcher has the highest batting average in the lineup. And I thought the Reds had it bad.
of course
they have still beat the crap out of the Reds this year.
by fourrunhomer on Jul 30, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Reds stalling to keep this one from becoming official
Friggin’ Pathetic
You ever been to the South side of Milwaukee?
But his dad
used to wear some really nifty glasses. I think Max was his dad.
by fourrunhomer on Jul 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhhhhhhh hahahaha
Come on, you have to laugh at how pathetic this team is.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
well, bring on the rain out
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
frustrating inning thom? inning? really?
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
if not then janish can teach him
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
Batters are hitting
.355 off Cueto in July. Not good.
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So has Cueto lost velocity and is experience mechanical
breakdown due to overuse? Or has the league simply figured hime out (again)?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
Nothing like being demolished by the Padres at home.
I’m so glad… That We’re Buyers!!!!
You ever been to the South side of Milwaukee?
really
it won’t pick up next year?
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 30, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
are we going to trade for him?
he’d fit in nicely.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like Griffey recaptured the magic of his father's Big Red Machine era
Venable could renew the love affair with the mid-80s Reds!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Alex Trevino'd
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite trade suggestion in the mlbtraderumors comments section
Is that we trade Votto and Homer for Scutaro and Rolen.
As far as I can tell, that’s a Reds fan suggesting it.
You ever been to the South side of Milwaukee?
figures
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Or the Alonso for Rolen that MLBTR just posted.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
How about
Michael Young and Nelson Cruz
by fourrunhomer on Jul 30, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
For
Arroyo, EdE, Weathers, Massett, Heisey, Alonso, and LeCure
by fourrunhomer on Jul 30, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you gotta shut down Cueto
at least on a DL stint.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
every pitcher in our rotation looks like they need a DL stint with the exception of Bronson
when he stinks, you are pretty sure he came by it honestly
by Red_Poodle on Jul 30, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WTF?
I looked away for a couple of minutes and now it’s 6-1?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
A, we suck, tongue twister....nice
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
let's clean up the language, okay?
please, no big words.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I apologize for the big word lol
and I can spell on occasion, it depends on how pissed/otherwise under the influence I am when I post
Votto has runners on base?
I have robot insurance.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 30, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
Not much offense today
This lineup reaaly suffers without Willy at the top of the order.
by fourrunhomer on Jul 30, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
we should hold onto Alonso
Votto is toast.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
wow i just looked up majewskis's stats
he has a WHIP of 1.51 in AAA.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 30, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolen can play 1st, and then we can trade Votto and Alonso for Hanley Ramirez
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
Wait
How are we trading Votto for both Rolen and Ramirez? Or is Walt just that damn good?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure we cloned Votto nine times at the beginning of this thread.
Every position other than SS and 1b will still be manned by Joey according to my plan.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
That was in the last thread.
In the meantime, the clones suffered from cloning defects and evaporated.
10 Joey Vottoes is known as a "Baker's Dozen"
9 for Dusty Baker, and 1 for Red Poodle
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
Votto is pluralized in the same manner as potato?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Every position... will still be manned by Joey
And now Poodle’s heart is all a-flutter.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that we have infinity Vottos
we’ll never run out!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
pun'd!
This was actually better than any of the puns in Young Frankenstein.
Seriously, why wasn’t that movie funny?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
GameDay made it look close to the wall anyway
I blame it on the rain.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
okay
who actually typed this?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Serious question: If they traded Edwin and Alonso for Rolen
would this blog be over?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
Nah
We must provide a record of the Dark Times for future generations
You ever been to the South side of Milwaukee?
I would never know - I would probably stop paying any attention.
It would be like if a bear shits in the woods, does it make any noise?
Wait…
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
No
I have to stick around until 2010.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I promised to give them until 2010
I’m a man of my word, even if I hate myself for it.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
So if the Reds don't win in 2010
Regardless of circumstances or whatever, you’re done?
Do you think prospects will be ready/good in 2010?
It doesn't matter
I don’t care how they win, they just have to win.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
"A lot of teams are asking for our top, top guys"
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 30, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's horseshit!
What did Votto do this time?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 30, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point,
You really just have to say “Fuck off, Tim Stauffer”
You ever been to the South side of Milwaukee?
Latest on MLBTR
1:19pm: Via Twitter, MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian says his source would not deny the Rolen-Reds talks (hat tip Drunk Jays Fans).
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
so the fayman says Justin Lehr has "gotta" be the man tomorrow
awesome, glad i paid money for that.
Bloop
RR has never made me laugh as much as this thread has..
Unless I’m just tired to the point where everything is funny.
Our team has sunk so low
You’ve got the bends.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What's that condition when you're down too low, too long?
And everything starts feeling euphoric?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm.. that could be about right.
I was really angry/depressed all morning. Now everything is funny.
Fucking drowning
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pirates are ready to keep dealing
1:27pm: SI’s Jon Heyman says the Cubs and Pirates are in “serious discussions” about Grabow.
If Alonso for Rolen goes down
Walt will be the one in the bottom of the well
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
I don't get it. Trading a guy we can't use for a guy we can and moving EdE to left actually improves the team in the near term
Alonso isn’t going to be a Red until 2011 and where the heck is he gonna play. I’d say moving EdE’s suspect glove to left and playing the oft-injured Rolen is improvement (if Rolen can play 130+ games next year)
If they don't clear any salary
then they won’t likely have enough to compete next year.
Plus, no way Alonso is the only piece in the deal.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Why must you always disagree with me? (and I say that more with amusement than anything else)
The deal was stated as Alonso for Rolen. I looked over the free agent market (with you and a few other the other day) and I was unimpressed. “freeing up salary” like they did when they traded Griff and Dunn doesn’t inspire them to improve…apparently.
What can I say, the off-season and the goings on this season have shaken my once rock-solid faith in Walt.
the salary they freed up by dumping Griffey and Dunn
mostly went to raises for Cordero, Harang, Arroyo, BP, and EdE. Plus they had 3 big holes in the bullpen to fill. I’m not saying they did a good job, but they didn’t have as much money to spend as people make it sound like.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I remember five minutes after the trade someone had supplied that point to Fay and Hal and Shledon
Sheldon repeated it in any mailbag he could.
What’s to stop them from saying thing this off-season. Have I mentioned I lost faith in Walt? i would trust Krivsky more at this point. In fact, knowing Wayne, he would have traded have the team for an injured left-fielder, a young left-fielder, Brendan Harris, and a Quad A pitcher! At least there would be movement….
Nothing stops them from saying it
but adding salary now pretty much guarantees them to say it.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Good news? (Nick Brunker tweet)
The Reds’ talks with Toronto about third baseman Scott Rolen have failed to progress…one source said, “Going nowhere. Stuck. Impasse.”
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Votto clones have full no-trade clauses.
In an interview with each as I created them, I found that all would reject any trade. Anywhere. Ever.
even to Toronto?
I have a feeling at least 3 of the Vottos would like to play at home with his brothers.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Well, the first batch (that evaporated) there were a few that noted they'd like to see their brothers.
So far, the current active clones have shown a preference to move the family to Indian Hills.
well they can't have them
plus, those Vottos are made in America and not really Canadian, so the hometown thing isn’t there
Made in America?
Then those are real Vottos. You’ve been ripped off.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
damnit, aren't
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Mr. Serano
ordered 13 of them. He mistook Votto for Voodoo.
by fourrunhomer on Jul 30, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn fucking skippy we don't.
The only way I’d get close to considering that is if they eat 6,000,000.
Uhhh...
Danny Knobler at CBS reports:
The Reds have contined to talk to the Blue Jays about acquiring Scott Rolen, and Bob Elliiott of the Toronto Sun reported today that the trade has “a good chance” of getting done. If it does, sources said that the Blue Jays will receive Edwin Encarnacion in return, in addition to one or more other players. The teams were negotiating on how much of Rolen’s remaining salary (about $4 million for the rest of this year, and $11 million for 2010) the Blue Jays will pick up.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Isn't it weird that Riccardi thinks Dunn hates baseball, but he thinks EdE apparently cares?
That’s certainly more than the folks on Fay and Hal’s blogs believe. Even Baseball prospectus called him “iceberg like.” J.P. is one strange dude.
Crap, is this game still going on?
Fisher just walked the first two batters in the 7th.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
true comedy continually builds
until the final, full release. A happy ending is on it’s way, folks!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
afternoon all
what is this Alonso for Rolen talk? is Walt trying to kill me?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
there is talk that the Jays would want a prospect
in addition to EE for Rolen. I think most are just guessing that prospect might be Alonso
Why is the infield in?
Seriously, does anyone care any more?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
that's what I'm afraid of--they don't seem to
I hope that’s not true, because it would really make this team a disgrace
A disgrace?
I think we passed disgrace a while ago on the way down.
by RedsMasochist on Jul 30, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember the thread about realigning the divisions?
I have a new idea.. new division:
AAAA
Cincinnati Reds
San Diego Padres
Pittsburgh Pirates
KC Royals
Baltimore Orioles
We could totally have a chance of finishing third
in that division!
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Orioles and Pirates are the only two teams with longer consecutive losing season streaks than the Reds
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
But the Orioles are in a division with big market teams that go to the playoffs every year.
The Pirates and the Reds aren’t. Orioles and Nats both belong. And so do these Padres.
It's that bad, huh?
The Orioles have at least made the playoffs since we have. The Pirates haven’t had a winning season since… what, 1991?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
1992
The Curse of Barry Bonds
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
what
you like finishing in 5th place all the time? masochist.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 30, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The Reds are about to go 4-11 against that division this year
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
To keep with the 6 team division idiocity..
AAAA
Cincinnati Reds
San Diego Padres
Pittsburgh Pirates
KC Royals
Baltimore Orioles
Washington Nationals
rolen for encarnacion
I hope I’m not the only one thinking that this is not a good deal Rolen is 34 has had a history of serious injury and is moving to the downside of his career,granted, if Rolen was 50 he could play better defense than encarnacion. I wouldn’t be terribly upset but I hope we don’t give up anything else to pick up a player who has maybe 2 more years of professional service left underneath his belt.
i am here with you
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 30, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hi all
So we’ve got to be getting to the point where a dusty firing is at least possible? If they keep on going like this and lose more than 90 games I don’t see how you can keep him around.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think it's in the realm of possibility now
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 30, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't he fired from SFO after losing in the playoffs?
But we won’t fire him from this shitshow?
I think I had a nightmare that there were extension talks.
Dusty had some early success in Chicago, and then his team went into freefall
So, last year was his early success here.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He got fired after the 2006 season in Chicago after going 66-96
We’re well on our way to that.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 30, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll probably get by this year on the injury excuse
But if they can prolong this across-the-board meltdown, it might do the trick
I'm thinking this meltdown seals the deal
We are about to lose 3 out of 4 to the Padres… at HOME.
I’m looking to see rumblings of his firing within the next few weeks
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 30, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at 4 million for next on a "team racked with injuries"
I agree with anearlier Slyde comment from a different thread, that the dusty firing takes place next year. IF they don’t sign him to an extension in Spring Training
Pete Rose discussion!
Is the biggest reason Rose hasn’t been reinstated because he lied about it?
Isn’t it sorry that baseball won’t kick out players that lied under oath (Bonds, McGuire, et al) but kicked out Rose!
Yeah!
No, the biggest reason is that he bet on baseball and specifically his team
Which by baseball rules is a permanent ban. Ask the ghost of Shoeless Joe Jackson how easy it is to be re-instated. And, ask him how Buck Weaver is while you’re at it.
Three innings to score six runs
Of course, they haven’t scored six total runs in their last three games…
Heyman thinks the Giants might want a 5th starter with Unit injured
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 30, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
Welp, got back from a phone interview and I see it's 7-1.
Do you think Bob’s finally started patching together that hand basket? I’ve heard it’s the only way to travel.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
LOL Roto World
Our View: Alonso is still a developing bat, but a potential trade of him for Scott Rolen appears to make about as little fundamental sense as trading Kyle Drabek for Vernon Wells would. Rolen is 34, due a ton of money the next year and a half and the Reds already have a pretty decent, young third basemen you might have heard of. Stay tuned.
The Giants are the anti-Pirates. Christ (MLBTR):
In a new blog post, SI’s Jon Heyman discusses the Giants’ plans.
The Giants “haven’t ruled out trading for more offense” after getting Freddy Sanchez and Ryan Garko. Heyman says that at some point the Giants scouted Miguel Tejada, Carlos Lee, Josh Willingham, Nick Johnson, Mark Teahen and Marco Scutaro. We can probably cross Johnson off the list. And we’ve seen no sign the Astros would sell.
The Giants would like to add a fifth starter, given the loss of Randy Johnson for at least August. Heyman speculates on a few names such as Bronson Arroyo, Doug Davis, and Jon Garland.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
Who/what would you want in return?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Complimentary pillow mint?
Maybe we could just keep Bronson’s boat.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
/cry
2:00pm: CBSSports’ Danny Knobler says the Jays would get Edwin Encarnacion and others, if this does get done. The sticking point appears to be how much of Rolen’s remaining $15MM the Jays would assume.
Oh God no..
if they make a trade for him I will give up on this fucking team. :(
"Life is the curse. Sleep is the remission. Death is the cure."--Denise Mugford
Not if it involves trading for a 35 year old third baseman with another hugr contract that will hamstring this team
"Life is the curse. Sleep is the remission. Death is the cure."--Denise Mugford
no
it’s the principle behind it. trading for Rolen is working on the premise that this team is poised to make a run if only they had X. that is fatally flawed.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 30, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Walt just hates EdE.
If the Jays eat a substantial amount of the salary, /shrug
Rolen would provide good D, a solid bat, and “leadership”
when yr team is bad, you trade veterans for prospects
not the other way around. this is easy.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 30, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm looking for Rolen to get here
And sustain a seaon ending injury within a week
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 30, 2009 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And one run.
That total equals last night’s.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wladimir is sitting on the bench crying right now
He really wants to know why he had to be traded here of all places.
Lol I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not
"Life is the curse. Sleep is the remission. Death is the cure."--Denise Mugford
that's when you know you've
made a decent joke.
by fourrunhomer on Jul 30, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's a relief pitcher
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I heard he can catch in a pinch
very versatile… he should see some PT
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
You know him
He is the guy the Jays wanted for Rolen, but Jock balked and offered Alonso instead.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
Isn't this the third game of this series Cordero has pitched in?
What the fuck is he doing in there?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
Why not?
We’re just going to trade him or something. Wear his arm out before we send him to… Houston..? Bold prediction.
Then he can start lighting us up
That’d be sweet
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 30, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
he's thrown 15 pitches in the past week.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Does it matter?
This team may never have a lead in the 9th ever again
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 30, 2009 3:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ruh roh:
m_sheldon: RT @MLBastian: Jays and Reds Rolen rumors update. Another source: “All is quiet. Don’t buy into all the other reports.”
Oh, I had missed this one
1:39pm: A Ken Rosenthal/Jon Paul Morosi source says the Reds-Rolen talks are “going nowhere.” The writers suggest a Halladay trade could help move things along.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I looked at their actual blog where they said:
The Reds’ talks with the Blue Jays about third baseman Scott Rolen have failed to progress.
Asked to characterize the negotiations, one source said, “Going nowhere. Stuck. Impasse.”
The impasse could break if the Jays trade Roy Halladay. At that point, they would concede the 2010 season and likely move Rolen and other veterans.
Another source says the chances of Rolen going to the Reds are “50-50,” adding, “Not dead.”
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Maybe the jays could throw in Halladay too?
I could see him weeping the first time he saw the line-up card and the dimensions of GAB
A ray of hope
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 30, 2009 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Carl Crawford
is better. look at his HR/RBI ratios.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 30, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if that will be EdE's last hit as a Red
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
To be honest, I'd be sad to see him go.
He’s been around for a long time, says my short-lived memory.
3rd longest tenured Red behind Harang and Weathers
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
That is why we got the Russian
For his 6 run homer ability
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
You are at least the 10th person to make this statement
you win a free burrito!*
*Offer not valid where you live.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
no effin' way, dude.
i believed it for about 2 minutes but i don’t think Walt is that stupid. if you’re trying to dump salary like the Jays, you don’t demand the number 1 prospect in the organization. it’s all a bad rumor.
EE is probably the best bet in getting anything for Rolen, plus an arm. i don’t think Alonso is going anywhere…
I still don't like him.
Trade him.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's not funny!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
unlikely
sounds like Bell is all but traded
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Good series, Reds.
I have robot insurance.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
I'm proud of those boys
They could have just rolled over and taken it, but instead they aggressive accepted the pounding.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
er, aggressively
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
PATIENT AGGRESSION!!!
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Jul 30, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't see last night's game, but what I will say for this team is that they do not give up
they have no talent, but they keep battling. i like that much
Last night they gave up
Today, they just gave up for the first 8 innings.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
after Harang gave up those early runs last night, I got the strong impression that the offense gave up
I'm thinking more like AAA+
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm gonna go watch the boston game on mlb network
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
ok, injuries or not
Time to fire dusty’s ass
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 30, 2009 3:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oh yes
There’s no sign of motivation here
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see how management couldn't at least think about letting him go
This is just ridiculous!
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 30, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He needs to go grab a beer with Billy Gillispie and get lost
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
Talks failing
Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi, of FOXSports.com, report the Cincinnati Reds’ trade talks for Toronto Blue Jays 3B Scott Rolen appear to be failing.
Yes!
Now there’s something we can be excited about!
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 30, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Dusty must have arranged the talking points
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
"Edwin for Rolen"
*I’ve seen this kind of thing done a lot.
- Edwin’s not good.
- We’re gonna wait and see if we need to use the DL.
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 30, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and Sutton sent down
LIFO
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Best. Day. Ever.
This loss doesn’t feel so bad now!
"Life is the curse. Sleep is the remission. Death is the cure."--Denise Mugford
Lol Rosales just reaffirmed my love for him
as the greatest player to ever play the game
"Life is the curse. Sleep is the remission. Death is the cure."--Denise Mugford
did he catch up to the runners on base before him?
all the HRs he has hit so far this year have been solo shots.
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
Or at least the principle that playing younger guys now
that haven’t yet established beyond the shadow of a doubt that they suck – is the only reasonable strategy.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if they do suck, they might just give a shit
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I am getting really aggravated by what I percieve as apathy. If Rosales can do that, some of our other guys should have been able to provide more offense
it might be apathy
but losing always looks like apathy since nobody really enjoys losing.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
that's what I hope it is
If they have actually given up and are just going to swing at the first garabge pitch that is thrown to get back to the bench quicker, it’s disgraceful
I can’t imagine any player would really want to do that, though, because that kills your stats
I'd gladly watch Rosales play his heart out for the rest of '09
now that the season is lost.
If it somehow wins him the 2010 starting job, then I won’t be happy. But this team will be reaping what it sowed.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you expect a less gag-worthy performance by this team
if he’s not in the lineup? He’s at least entertaining to watch. People in Cincinnati eat it up, so from a marketing standpoint it makes perfect sense. Come see Adam Rosales and the scrappy, never-say-die Reds.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think my assortment of cliches tells you I would rather watch EdE, Hairston, and....I apuse long before typing this....AGon
than watching Rosales. And reason #547 for that is the one you described: the “average” fans getting attached to him.
by timb116 on Jul 30, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it makes good business sense to run
Rosales out there for a lost season. He’s like Chris Stynes, only he sucks and Chris Stynes was good for a couple months.
I would rather watch quite literally ANYONE play than A-Gon.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It is now.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, I even rec'd it.
Let’s wait for obc to green it.
"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"
I don't think I have any invective-filled rants left in me
I just felt the sting of total apathy hit me. It makes a “boing” sound when it happens. I still like to talk ABOUT this team and its prospective moves, but they could really be a complete simulation at this point.
They’re really running the risk of total alienation of the diehards. I’m not sure who would shell out for season tickets next year unless there’s some big-name acquisition, which would probably mortgage the future of the franchise.
I disapprove of fair-weather fandom – and have always marveled at how Cubs fans can pack it in after 100 without a WS – but there has to be something to keep you hanging on. We don’t have Wrigley/‘lovable losers’ culture, but we also don’t have mgmt that has any inkling on how to build a team with chance of competing – whether with panache or not.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm ready to forget this series, but I see where you're coming from
However, if they play like this again, this team is in danger of becoming disliked by me (to put it gently). I can tolerate losing, but not this kind of losing (in other words games we are clealry capable of winning). If we are really this bad, I’d be astonished. Then again, the Padres did sweep us ealier.
Even when we were struggling at times during June, I had the feeling everyone came to play After that Phillies’ series it seems like everything changed.
I paradoxically still love my home team and always will
I just don’t want to be cheated in the effort department. I’m hopeful that I’m wrong, and they come and play hard in the remaining games. I don’t blame them for feeling deflated and beaten when the starting pitching is so weak. However, Bronson pitched a great game and we still couldn’t pull it out.
The effort department extends beyond the playing field
to the coaching staff and upper management. We’ve been cheated by the architects of these teams for nine straight seasons. Although, this level of wilfull ignorance might take quite a bit of effort.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Krivsky was still GM (I don’t think Walt had even been hired as an advisor at that point). But all signs point to owner Bob Castellini as being the one who wanted Dusty.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If you think Dusty didn't want Taveras, you're insane
I’m also blaming Dusty for retaining the coaching staff. Yes, it’s hard to know what their actual impacts are, but holy moses they are not good.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
seems like a lot of odd stuff
lineups, handling the DL, pitching stuff, that you can’t always say who is deciding what
Yeah
I think with coaching staffs, the only way to confirm their relative impact is when a team is playing poorly. I can’t imagine the Reds playing any worse, so if coaching has any impact at all it has to be in the negative direction. If it has no impact, then it doesn’t matter. Firing the coaches would at least be a much-needed symbolic shake-up that could bouy the team briefly and tell the fans “Hey, I know this shit sucks.”
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Case in point:
Was there ever a thought by the coaching staff that they might want to manage Cueto’s innings as he enters his sophomore season?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be kinda cool to stage a "walk out" at a Reds game
Everyone gets up in the top of the first and leaves, en masse.
I really don’t like hating my team right now though and I don’t want to start reveling in it. RedsMasochist’d.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
I believe they tried that at an Orioles game last year
I don’t really remember the actual impact, but my gut reaction is that it was minimal.
That said, I am getting more and in favor with teaming up with www.whodeyrevolution.com and staging a Cincinnati-wide Project Mayhem.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 30, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, then how about a "walk in"
Everyone sells out every game and stays til the end!
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
while who dey revolution didn't accomplish what it set out to (hiring a GM)
it was followed up with a slew of big-time offseason moves and a great draft so it wasn’t a total failure.
Rays fans tried it a couple seasons back, iirc.
Seems to have done wonders, although, that could be a coincidence and irrelevant.
"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"
Pirates fans have tried it a couple of times
they don’t have any players left now (word is they are about to trade John Grabow and Tom Gorezelanny to the Cubs)
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
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