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Richar tore his labrum and is on the 15 day DL but I imagine that he is out for the year and Edwin has been reinstated from the 60 day DL just in time for a huge series against the Cardinals.  He is a big bat that we have been lacking.  We need him to come up and play like good Edwin and not bad Edwin.  How much of an effect on the line up do you guys think that we will have.

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My guess is

unless he plays center field, his impact will be insignificant.

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jul 3, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Taveras is done in CF

at least against Right handed pitching. The Reds are fine in CF with Dickerson- in fact they are more than fine with Dickerson in CF.
I didnt think EE would make that big of impact coming back. But that was before Rosales/Hairston hit at a level slightly better than what you would expect from a starting pitching.
Now if EE returns to his career averages that could mean a couple games in the win column for the Reds in a half season.

by davidmac84 on Jul 3, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's playing center tonight!

and my comment was intended to indicate that unless Taveras is removed from the lineup, no other change will be significant enough to help the REDS

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jul 3, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm interested in seeing how Dusty arranges this lineup

Dickerson CF
Hanigan C
Votto 1B
Gomes/NIx LF
Phillips 2B
Encarnacion 3B
Bruce RF
Janish SS
Pitcher

Would be pretty good

Of course, we’d probably never see something like.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

poop sandwich

shit on a shingle.

Hope the folks in the stands on the first base side bring their helmets to the game this evening. E6 returns!

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha, get it?

cause he throws the ball away a lot. Yawn.

This team is desperate enough for a bat that I’m more than happy to put up with his defense. I just hope he has his stroke back already.

(BTW, it’s E5, jackass)

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

be nice

He’s in mourning for the dearly departed Rosy.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

but where we come from on the tough streets of Loveland, that kind of attitude will get you the beat down.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I walk the dark streets, alone and unfazed

i’ll be in the 45140 an hour after I shut this popsicle stand down this evening. im thinking of treating my spawn to the Whippy Dip.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, I was thinking the exact same thing

but I think we’re heading down to Coney Island to see the balloons light up tonight. I doubt we’ll be back before the Whippy Dip closes.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they went to the Root Beer Stand for lunch today

and by the way, Lever Park added a skateboard area. Ugh.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whippy dip?

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 3, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a Loveland thing

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i get it

go enjoy your whippy dip in Loveland. It all makes sense now

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 3, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

link

loveland dairy whip

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whippy Dip... They have those in Michigan

hella awesome…

hella… haha

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 3, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look for me!

I’ll be in the pool.

He sits alone...Reds are not home.

by Gapper on Jul 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yikes

Torn labrum can be a career-ender.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 3, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for position players?

will this affect his swing?

Bloop

by justin007000 on Jul 3, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

According to the studies I’ve seen, shoulder problems can be career-enders even for position players. (Ask Craig Wilson and Bubba Crosby, who had relatively mild shoulder problems.)

Teams will send players for TJ surgery at the drop of a hat, but they usually try to avoid shoulder surgery if at all possible. Shoulder surgery is pretty routine for an ordinary person, but not for a baseball player. I don’t think doctors understand it as well as they understand elbow problems.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong Wing

It’s Richar’s left shoulder, not throwing arm. Depending on the severity of the tear, he should be okay. Good thing was he didn’t have a separation and tear.

by Mr. Redlegs on Jul 3, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fans want their Edwin!

Tonight’s game is SOLD OUT! And it’s not even bobblehead night. Yowza!

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fireworks after the game?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 3, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, just like every Friday night

and just like every Friday night, you can watch them from the levee. Not that people shouldn’t go to the Reds game. It just seems weird that THIS game would sell out.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

Holiday weekend, not much else going on around time, team is decent — plus, like it or not, non-hardcore fans will come out for Pujols.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 3, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*time should be town

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 3, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think the holiday would be enough

Common. What’s more American than baseball?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 3, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grillouts, drankin' and the blowing shit up!

WOOOOOO!

USA, USA, USA, USA, USA

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 3, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im scooting over to Rozzi's tonight

Bam, MF!

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Homer is pitching

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edwin not in the lineup tonight

FayTweet:

Lineup:
Dickerson 7
taveras 8
votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
hernandez 2
hairston 5
Janish 6
Bailey 1

Happy to see Dickerson leading off, at least.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Janish again

This is really spoiling a good running joke.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 3, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is that Janish needs to play SS more when EdE comes back to help cover his defense

but somehow I doubt that will happen. Cherry at shortstop ain’t all that hot, and if he keeps hitting like he is, then he’s pretty much worthless.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EdE's problem on defense

is not his glove or his range, but his arm. Though, this argument aside, I still would like to see what Janish can do At short for an extended time.

by fourrunhomer on Jul 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

if it is EdE’s glove vs Soft J’s bat.. EdE wins
if it is EdE’s bat vs Soft J’s glove EdE still wins

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 3, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not according to UZR

his range is just as bad as his arm.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bah

What do your eyeballs tell you? Guy has great hands, decent positioning, does alright except for his footwork and arm slot on certain throwing angles.

If you know baseball and trust what you’re watching, you don’t need UZR. Toss it out the window.

by Mr. Redlegs on Jul 3, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I could watch every play and not have any preconceived ideas about a player

I wouldn’t need UZR either. Descartes taught me that mine eyes can deceive me.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so that feeling that EdE has really good range but sucks on routine plays

is just a myth? I was really trying to find something positive. Slyde you always shit on my dreams.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Jul 5, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 3, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cuz he's hitting RHP so well this year.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slyde can you go manage the Reds?

and use your crazy internet researching stat skills to make them win?

by jsl413 on Jul 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and make them not schedule games on days when it rains?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with our 3b offense

I’d even take bad Edwin. A brucesque .220 average and .800 ops would be magical at 3b.

by Born Too Loose on Jul 3, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

batting order or bo

Either dickerson or taveras should be at #8. And at this point I would lean toward Taveras

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would lean toward Nix or Gomes

and leave Taveras out of the equation entirely.

by fourrunhomer on Jul 3, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why would Dickerson bat 8th with a .389 OBP?

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 3, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome Back EdE

let’s hope he has a positive impact on the offense

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 3, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i say only 2 errors this evening

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EE limited to PH role tonight...

so no real impact in short term…but high hopes for the long term. Real issue is if Homer can toss strikes tonight and limit his walks. I’ve got my doubts…

by Green Hammer on Jul 3, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

see I have to disagree with that

If he is ready put him in and let’s go. Why nickel and dime him for two weeks until the all star game? If he is healthy he should play every day. Period

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 3, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

inconceivable

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

EE played a 14-inning doubleheader late last night, then had to pack and travel from Louisville early afternoon today, and then get to the park and get ready for tonight? Plenty conceivable.

by Mr. Redlegs on Jul 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is he only sitting tonight

because he played a double header yesterday? Or is this a case of Dusty Being Dusty?

by fourrunhomer on Jul 3, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

um...

yes?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jul 3, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder if EE did have a setback a few days ago...

remember when they didn’t play him for a day and then they had an off day. Did he play in the the double header yesterday? If he’s hurt or worn out, I’d be more comfy with just PH tonight. If not the case, I’d like to see his ashtabula in the lineup.

by Green Hammer on Jul 3, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He played both games yesterday

went 0-for-3 in the first and went 2-for-3 in the second. I think he’s fine.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 3, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think he sucks eggs

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jul 3, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no-

that’s Taveras. Remember?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jul 3, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why call him up...

If you’re not gonna start him?

I hate this team.

by homerun21 on Jul 3, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHy no Gomes or Hnaigan?

I hope this wqorks out, but this looks liek one of the weaker lineups, offensively, that Dusty has come up with

by Red_Poodle on Jul 3, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since Taveras is a given, I'd rather have Dickerson over Gomes

Plus an OF of Dickerson-Virus-Bruce is ideal for a flyball pitcher like Owings.

by ken on Jul 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did they have to bring Error Encarnacion back...

Couldn’t we have just left him down in L’ville, and gone with Janish / Hairston at 3B?

I think Jockety needs to settle on a coherent strategy because:
They didn’t go after Dunn because they didn’t want a player who plays bad defense and has a bad batting average, even though he hits a lot of HR"s and gets RBI’s…….But…….they keep Error Encarnacion around who has worse defense, also has a bad batting average (and gets on base less), hits less HR’s and gets less RBI’s

by ephram on Jul 5, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he also makes less money.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Jul 5, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Justin'd

Seriously EdE is not ‘the’ answer. At least not at 3B. His range is ok, his arm is inconsistent, but more importantly he just not that good of a hitter. He’ll hit a few dingers and drive in a few runs but not enough to be more than marginally better than Jerry Jr in the final analysis..

I’d rather have him than Rosales…at least he’s better than Rosy.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Jul 5, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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