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San Diego Padres' Mat Latos spells his name with one "t."  There's only one "t" in "one hit," too.  Weird, huh? (AP Photo/Al Behrman)

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San Diego Padres' Mat Latos spells his name with one "t." There's only one "t" in "one hit," too. Weird, huh? (AP Photo/Al Behrman)



Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Mat Latos.  The new guy pitched seven innings and only gave up one run.  In fact, he only gave up one hit, and one walk while striking out four and only using 86 pitches.

Key Plays

  • Before the game, Madville boldly predicted that Aaron Harang would give up five runs in five innings.  Well, Harang is something of an overachiever.  After getting Tony Gwynn, Jr. to pop out, he gave up a scrappy double to David Eckstein (Jonny Gomes, assist).  Then lone San Diego offensive threat Adrian Gonzalez hit a home run, stinging us yet again.  Ye gods.  Wait, did I say lone offensive threat?  Kevin Kouzmanoff singled, Chase Headley drew a walk, and then Kyle Blanks hit his fourth home run of the season.  Mads's prediction of five runs had already come to pass!
  • In the first inning the Reds didn't get a hit.
  • In the second inning the Reds didn't get a hit.
  • In the third inning the Reds didn't get a hit.
  • In the fourth inning the Reds didn't get a... WAIT!  They did get a hit!  Jerry Hairston, Jr. got his 8th home run of the season.  Matt Holliday, who?!
  • In the fifth inning the Reds didn't get a hit.
  • In the sixth inning the Reds drew a walk!
  • In the seventh inning the Reds didn't get a hit.
  • Harang started the 8th inning despite losing 5-1 and having thrown 115 pitches.  Rather predictably, he walked Kouzmanoff and Headley singled.  Josh Roenicke came in to relieve him, and did get two outs.  But then Everth Cabrera doubled to bring in Kouzmanoff, and pinch runner Eliezer Alfonzo scored on a wild pitch.  Seven earned runs for Harang.
  • In the eighth inning the Reds didn't get a hit.
  • In the ninth inning the Reds didn't get a hit.

(Ok, I can't get FanGraphs to open, but as you can imagine, the Win Probability was pretty much 100% for the Padres right from the beginning.)

Other Notes

  • This was the first time in a month the Padres won back to back games.  Of course, the Reds haven't won consecutive games since July 1-2.
  • Harang's 12 losses are the most in the majors.  W-L record doesn't really mean much, but still, wow.  He's lost his last 8 decisions, the longest such streak by a Reds pitcher since Danny Graves in 2003.
  • Jerry Hairston's homer means that he has tied his career high for dingers.
  • Adrian Gonzalez, like Jayson Werth before him, has homered in every game of this series.  Prior to the Padres trip to Cincinnati, he had only one homer in his last 23 games and 2 in his last 30.
  • Joey Votto twice came to the plate with two outs and no one on.  Of course, that happened in every inning but one tonight.
  • Is it irony when the all-time hits leader is watching you, and all your team can muster is one hit?

  • Final - 7.29.2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 RHE
    San Diego Padres 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 7 10 0
    Cincinnati Reds 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0
    WP: Mat Latos (2 - 1)
    LP: Aaron Harang (5 - 12)

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Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Man does this team blow dead chickens in heat on the farm in the middle of a wind storm on a rainy night. they are so bad that even if the tractor pull winner was known in advance we’d all go to the fair anyway rather than see the Deds. The hitting is like Franz Kafka trying to write a romantic love tome. The pitching is toast. The opposition is Toastbusters…who ya gonna call..

Oh well, sigh – I’ll see you guys tomorrow when the big streak is once again duplicated.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

4/6, 5/4, 6/4, 6/21, 7/2, 7/7, 7/18

7 games where Harang pitched well enough to get the win. He was 0-4 with 3 no decisions in those games.

He has no bad starts where he backed into a win or a no decision. He could be 12-8 right now. I wonder if people would have a different perception of him if that was his record.

And screw Dusty for sending Harang out for the 8th. That was beyond dumb.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting

i’d never had thought Aaron could have been 12-8 at this point. im not sure any modern pitcher could be 12-8 with this anemic offense….tis a lost season, folks.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the sad thing about the offense was that it is such a complete surprise

No one knew, or could have anticipated, that this team had no offense and no depth! I mean, no one in the Reds front office that is. I knew it, you knew it, my two year son knew about the lack of depth….Lost season by incompetence and negligence

by timb116 on Jul 30, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

Then we get the first pick!

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

It’s all we have left

You ever been to the South side of Milwaukee?

by chesirecat on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sucks big time

Been a Reds fan since 1961, and never have I been more embarrassed of this team until now. I have absolutely no confidence left in Dusty Baker. He makes Mr. Green Jeans look like the Loan Ranger. Please someone please explain to Dusty what OBP stands for, and why it is important to let hitters with good OBP bat in front of your 3-4 hitters. I can’t stand watching Willie Taveras swing for the fences every frickin time up. And watching Mr. Green Jeans chewing on his toothpick. These guys should try playing Corn Toss for a living.

by dmcgee77 on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck this team

Everytime I watch my baseball team, I can expect to be treated to:

- a horrible offense
- arranged into a horrible lineup
- horrible managerial decisions on a nightly basis, often with respect to pitching changes (or lack thereof)

As long as Dusty fills out the lineup cards and Bob holds the purse strings , we will not see winning baseball in the Queen City ( ashbakerhatechild ). I don’t know what to think of Walt, but his acquisiton of Willy very nearly blinds me to anything beneficial he’s done for this team. Have any players in the modern history of this franchise been allowed to be LEAGUE WORST and START for this long?

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Corey Patterson

Where do you find the league worst for Taveras?

As for Dusty, at the risk of being abused, his management of the pitching staff has been good. If Harang went out there in the 8th, then it’s because Harang SAID he could go out there in the 8th. He’s a 31 year old man and a veteran pitcher…why doesn’t he know when he’s done? Dusty should ignore those sorts of assurances, but he doesn’t and that’s why his players like him. Nonetheless, taking Harang out last night wasn’t going to win the game for this Reds offense…although, in the past week they have been good for making big leads close to pad a closer’s stats, they apparently had nothing left.

Just my opinion.

by timb116 on Jul 30, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree
it’s because Harang SAID he could go out there in the 8th. He’s a 31 year old man and a veteran pitcher…why doesn’t he know when he’s done?

It’s Dusty’s job to know when he’s done. It’s Harang’s job to take the ball when asked. If it’s Harang’s call on if he gets to stay in the game, then what the hell is Dusty’s job?

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to decide if he believes him

He did, it was wrong, that’s part of the game. Meanwhile, the two runs didn’t matter

by timb116 on Jul 30, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, the two runs didn't matter

I’m not blaming the loss on Harang coming out to pitch the 8th inning, but that doesn’t make it any less stupid of a decision.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mostly agree with you

in that Dusty should have over-ruled Harang. For God’s sake, why does he keep listening to him?

by timb116 on Jul 30, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it is saying the same things we say everyday

but I like the presentation. rec’d!

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

green

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jul 30, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my first green ... i shall always remember it

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How quickly we forget

http://www.redreporter.com/2008/7/25/579025/game-104-reds-vs-rockies#7635306

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 30, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taveras
Where do you find the league worst for Taveras?

Here. By one measure at least – OPS – Taveras is league worst. Maybe its unfair to use a stat that weights slugging and OBP 50/50 for a leadoff man. But it’s also true that the lineup only bats in order once. He’s going to come up in situations with two outs and not only is there little chance of him getting on base, there’s even less chance of a timely XBH.

If I’m not mistaken, his -.5 (negative five) WAR is worst in the NL among position players.

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 30, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are mistaken

that only looks at “qualified” batters. You can accumulate more negative WAR despite not playing enough games.

He is, however, the worst hitter in the league according to Fan Graphs RAR (based on wOBA) at -21.3. Thankfully there is Yuniesky Betancourt or else Alex Gonzalez would be 2nd instead of 3rd.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not disputing, just wantinf to know what stat we were using

Dusty does like his mediocrity…..I mean, players striving for mediocrity

by timb116 on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sound like a stuffy nerd ...

other than that, I think this was well done. It was certainly fun.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Might as well trade for Gonzalez. Dude loves hitting against us.

Move Votto to LF, and stick Gonzalez on 1B.

Still wouldn’t matter because Dusty wouldn’t put anyone in front of them to knock in.

by Dude Rock on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im excited

I’m going to the game tomorrow…can’t be any worse than tonight!

How much longer til Dusty's gone?

by in_Votto_We_Trust on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay, Cherry

If not for him, we’d have been no-hit.

Dusty’s not happy.

Reds manager Dusty Baker has rarely fired on his team.

He did Wednesday after the 7-1 loss to San Diego Padres, a game in which the Reds had a total of one hit.

"This is totally unacceptable," Baker said. "It is embarrassing. It is pitiful. This is terrible."

Baker questioned the team’s effort and enthusiasm.

"You’ve got to get after them," Baker said. "They’re taking it to us. We’re not getting after it. We’ve got to do a whole lot better than this.

"Like I said, this is pitiful."

The Reds have lost two of the first three in the four-game series with the Padres. The Padres, mind you, were 4-19 in the month of July when they came to Cincinnati.

"They’re not a good club," Baker said. "They’re beating us like this. What does that make us?"

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 30, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"They’re not a good club," Baker said. "They’re beating us like this. What does that make us?"

A poorly managed club?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 30, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're shit. Absolute, 100% shit.

And he’s lost control of the team. He needs to be gone for this team to beat out the Nationals in a race to the bottom…

"Life is the curse. Sleep is the remission. Death is the cure."--Denise Mugford

by chazzilla on Jul 30, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

He moved A-Gon down in the lineup. Didn’t help. (And A-Gon actually made it on base tonight, unlike most of the rest of the team. Dusty probably thinks he should have left him in the two-hole now.) This team just isn’t very good.

Worse…I think they’ve given up. They’re just going through the motions now.

I think if I were Dusty I’d play the kids more. The guys who will still play hard just because they’re thrilled to be with the big club. Maybe it’ll light a spark under the rest.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 30, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bubba, I get teh same impression

which is why they still frustrate me so much. Does this mean more Rosales in teh future? lol

by Red_Poodle on Jul 30, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is

You really can’t blame the players. I think it’s coming from the top. What does it say to the team, when the Reds won’t even put players on the DL and call up replacements? When Paul Janish is your backup catcher because they’re too cheap or too lazy or too apathetic to add a real catcher to the roster while Hanigan is injured?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 30, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

it’s not even so much that the players are acting “lazy” as I saw a couple comments on Fay’s blog suggest. It’s almsot like they have broken spirits. I atcually think Votto getting ejected did wake these guys up because it seemed like someone actually gave a flying crap abot what goes on in the game.

The team is beat up, and not well backed up as you pointed out. They should get out there and play like every game is game seven of the world series for their own good. I don’t like watching a bunch of guys mope around a field. I can watch an awful team with some spirit

by Red_Poodle on Jul 30, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that playing the kids is the best action to take now too.

Dusty should take BP, Votto, and Edwin aside and tell them “these are the guys who you’re going to win with next year, start playing with them now so you can win it all next year”. Then bring up Stubbs, Heisey, and whoever else, and quit giving valuable innings to Willy Taveras, Jerry Hairston Jr., and Alex Gonzalez. If you’re going to have a team with a young core, they need to gel as a team and for that to happen, BP and Votto need a reason to play hard.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 30, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

not because young guys will “light a spark” but because young guys don’t know that cincinnati is supposed to lose.

I’d love to say “blow it up” but the management already has. The problem is they forgot to build a foundation in the ashheap, making this look like a Bluthe family house.

That analogy was really tortured, I know.

by Cy Schourek on Jul 30, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rather be 30 games back in California than winning in Cincinnati.

/Lucille’d

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you say Loose Seal?

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this
I think if I were Dusty I’d play the kids more. The guys who will still play hard just because they’re thrilled to be with the big club. Maybe it’ll light a spark under the rest.

Obviously, we aren’t going anywhere this season, but it could end up being like last year with Bruce. After he was brought up, the team started playing better because there was more fire in the clubhouse. This year, everyone has to be down after two horrible months in a row. Anything would help at this point, but I think Dusty has to go too.

by wishfuldrifter on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The audio shows promise

Billy Blanks?! Racist!

by ken on Jul 30, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blow it up

I’m rooting for slot from here on out

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jul 30, 2009 12:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I'm rooting for Slaught from here on out

Look at that fabulous mustache!

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well played.

What’s up with that jersey though?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 30, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't notice that

I’m guessing someone photoshopped out the bottom of his baseball card. Looks like an overuse of the cloning tool.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*UPDATE*

The Pirates have just dealt the memory of Don Slaught to the Royals for a AA outfielder, a player to be named later, and cash. Please update the picture accordingly.

He sits alone...Reds are not home.

by Gapper on Jul 30, 2009 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Came back from a two day hike

To see two shitty losses and no major trades, although I agree the trade for balentin could be good.

I agree that the team seems to have given up. The injuries, apathetic managing and roster mismanagement would get to me too. I would LOVE to see the kids get a chance but it won’t happen. Mngmt seems to have a plan with the prospects and they won’t deviate no matter what. I kind of respect that even if it’s frustrating as a fan.

As an aside, if anyone ever gets a chance to hike the Kalalau Trail in Hawaii, do it. Most amazing two days of my life.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Jul 30, 2009 2:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Brandon...

The 8th should’ve been over but Brandon couldn’t turn the double play with the CATCHER trying to beat the relay. Don’t lay all of the 8th inning woes on Roenicke

by KevB1990 on Jul 30, 2009 5:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

that whole inning felt like the Reds were giving a big F-U to Harang.

First, Dusty needlessly sends him out to start the 8th inning. After Harang predictably gives up 2 base runners, Roenicke is brought in. He gets a strikeout, but then BP fails to turn an easy DP. Then Hairston appeared to be playing way in on Cabrera’s double. I don’t know if he gets to that ball anyway, but he sure had a long way to run just to get back to the warning track, and the first of Harang’s runners score. The second then scores on a wild pitch. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I’d say the Reds are collectively trying to kill Harang in tiny increments.

BTW, I noticed something interesting this morning. The Reds starting pitchers have bequeathed 63 total runners to the bullpen this year, and 33 of them have scored. The bullpen has bequeathed 72 base runners to their other bullpen mates and not a single one has scored. Sounds like the starters need to make right with their friends in the pen.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 30, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i feel like this bullpen is good at pitching full ininngs, but it isn't good at cleaning up

I also think he puts people in the wrong situation like he has DRH and Weathers come in to clean up, when neither is well versed in missing bats.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team = 1,000lb bag of SUCK

Why is it that my media market continually forces me to watch the Reds?

My only outlet to “Major” League Baseball is this pathetic excuse for a team. These guys really get PAID for this shit? Unbelievable.

I feel like Ramon Hernandez might be getting the most for his money, since at least he’s got to rehab everyday with stiches in his knee. The rest of these overpaid blow-hards are worthless. WORTHLESS.

If I go 2 more days without a significant shakeup, I’m sending a letter to the front office everyday with just 2 words on it…YOU SUCK. I’ll gladly cough up the postage (arm and a leg) to make some secretary have to open it everyday. That’s exactly what I feel like happens to me on FS-OH every night at 7pm anyway.

God it must be nice to be a Cards/Angels/Dodgers fan…

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 30, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i know we saw this earlier but i want to comment on it again
“They’re not a good club,” Baker said.

referring to the Padres… i know there is more to that quote but the context doesn’t change what those words mean. he was trying to spin it to make the Reds look bad, which is also stupid. negativity like this doesn’t help anybody and he did the worst thing possible by saying it to the media. i’m surprised there isn’t a firestorm in san diego about this.

i used to say shit like this to my cousin when he beat me in nintendo. it’s something that a sore loser says. it’s a bullshit comment and he looks like an asshole saying it. yes, he’s a human being, but he’s got to be a little more diplomatic instead of talking shit about a team that just kicked his team’s ass. if the san diego media was anything like ours, that’s all they’d be talking about—how much of a jerk dusty is. it doesn’t matter if you think it, and it doesn’t matter if they have the worst record of all time, you just don’t say it.

quit being a poor sport, dusty, and worry about your own fucking team. when the red sox kick the shit out of somebody, terry francona doesn’t say, “they’re not a good club—it was an easy win.” he comments on what his team did, not what the implications of the matchup were.

in my opinion, no matter how many more games we lose, this is rock-bottom.

by GrooveLeg on Jul 30, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i look at it differently

he is saying that the there is a problem when you lose to a team as bad as the padres.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got a question...

Did the Reds get any hits last night?

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eye witness report

i started my evening at rock bottom, had a few beers, and was thourghly buzzed.
The second home run was hit, and i was sober again.
It wasn’t as rainy as i thought it would be.
why did Harang pitch the 8th?
Why did Hairston ruin the no hitter?

Bloop

by justin007000 on Jul 30, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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