Farmers Only: Drew Stubbs' late inning heroics would have come in handy in Cincy
by BK on Jul 29, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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- Louisville won a wild one against Toledo 6-5 in 11. The game was tied 2-2 in the 6th, and stayed that way until the Mud Hens put up 3 runs on Jeff Kennard. Louisville rallied to score 4 times in the bottom of the inning, with hits by Eric Eymann and Daniel Dorn setting the table and Drew Stubbs doubling in the winning run. Stubbs was 3-for-5 in the game. Sure couldn't use that at the top of the lineup, right Walt? Ben Jukich had another good start, going 6 innings of 2-run ball, striking out 9. In relief, Kip Wells pitched a scoreless inning, and Zach Stewart went 1 2/3 innings of hitless ball. I think we can rule out all three of them for Friday's start. It's looking more and more like Lehr's. Up next: Sam LeCure is scheduled to take on Toledo at 7:05.
- Carolina also had a comeback in extra innings, as they beat Chattanooga 5-4 in 13. After Jerry Gil walked 5 hitters to give up the leading run (one was caught stealing), Juan Francisco doubled in two runs to give the Mudcats the win. El Nino Destructor went 3-for-6 with a HR (his 19th) and 3 RBI in the game, and Stephen Chapman hit his 4th HR of the season. Matt Klinker started the game, and pitched well, giving up 1 run in 6 innings, striking out 8. Up next: Tom Cochran takes on Chattanooga at 7:15.
- Jason Louwsma was the hero, singling in the winning run in the 9th as Sarasota beat Daytona 3-2. Zach Ward started and gave up 1 run in 2 1/3 innings of work, and Pedro Villarreal and Steven Otterness picked up the slack, pitching 3 relief innings each. Villarreal gave up 1 run and Otterness gave up 1 hit to seal the deal. Alex Buchholz and Shane Carlson had two hits each. Up next: Jeremy Horst takes on Daytona at 7.
- Dayton had the opposite happen, as Aguido Gonzalez blew the save in the 9th to fall 4-3 to Peoria. Kevin Coddington went 3-for-3 with a walk and Byron Wiley had two hits, including a HR. Mark Serrano started, and gave up 2 runs in 5 innings. Ezequiel Infante and Donnie Joseph pitched scoreless relief outings. Up next: J.C. Sulbaran takes on Peoria at 7.
- Billings lost 8-2 to Great Falls, as Luca Panerati got lit up. The Billings pitching staff has been terrible, as Jason Braun has the best ERA out of anyone who pitched tonight at 6.19, and that's after two perfect innings. Mariekson Gregorius was 3-for-5 and Tyler Stovall was 2-for-4. The Golden Child Yorman Rodriguez was 1-for-4 with 3 strikeouts. Ouch. Up next: Tim Crabbe takes on Missoula at 9:05.
- The GCL Reds were blanked by the GCL Orioles 2-0. Harold Johnson started and gave up 2 unearned runs in 4 innings of work to lower his ERA to 1.06 on the season. Nathan Driessen and Raul Rodriguez were also good, each pitching two innings of shutout ball. Henry Rodriguez had two of the G-Reds 6 hits. Up next: The G-Reds take on the GCL Red Sox at noon.
- Roster Moves: Federico Baez and Joe "The Cycle" Krebs join the Carolina bullpen. Krebs has put up a 2.45 ERA in 55 relief innings in Sarasota so far. Chris Denove is also off the DL, as Korey Feiner takes his place. Yen-Wen Kuo is back with Dayton after a stint in Billings. Jeremy Ware joins the Dayton bullpen after starting the year in the GCL, and has apparently started going by his middle name, Chase. 43rd round pick Ricky Bowen is with Billings, and 22nd rounder David Stewart is with the GCL team.
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I saw that Adam Petticoat was signed by the Mets to a minor league deal
I must not have made that mental note when the Reds released him.
by Brian B on Jul 29, 2009 8:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Petticoat?
I like that better than Pettyjohn.
I have robot insurance.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 29, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm really going to miss that nickname.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
So the Mariners pulled Jeff Clement from a Triple-A game last night
and the rumor is that he’s been traded, but nobody knows to where. Is there any chance whatsoever that it might be the Reds? The Mariners are 7.5 back in the division and 6.5 back in the Wild Card, but it’s mainly because of the offense, so I doubt they are trading with the Reds. I’d love to have Clement though!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
hard to believe this would be for a call-up...
he’s not even their top catching prospect anymore, is he?
They do have a couple of good ones
but I’d say he’s the most ready of the two.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Actualy, I think the Reds make perfect sense for Clement
WIth Ramon out for now and his option not being picked up next year, we’ll need a catcher to go to with Hanigan. They can give Hanigan the starting job and have a guy with some pop off the bench in Clement, and make Clement the starter if Hanigan falters.
According to MLBTR, they told him he’s getting traded, so there’s a 1 in 29 chance it’s us.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
What I meant was that the Reds don't have what the Mariners need
which is bats.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
if the reds don't have any bats
maybe that is why they can’t get hits. They should try tennis rackets.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 29, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, that's a possibility
from the sound of it, we’ll find out in an hour or so, but if the Mariners are actually still trying to do something this year, I could see Gomes going there. I seriously doubt we’re involved in the trade though.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Current report on Twitter is that Clement is going to Pittsburgh
in a 3-team deal. Zach Duke might also be involved.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Now it sounds like Jack Wilson is going to Seattle
still no word on if there is another team involved. Also supposedly there are other prospects moving from Seattle. I wonder if the Pirates are trading Sanchez as well, possibly to the Giants. That was a rumor yesterday.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Duke is good though...
The Pirates are dumb.
by Jake Liscow on Jul 29, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say that before the deal has been announced
it’s just a rumor right now. If they get a good return, it could be a good deal for them. Also, it looks like they are clearing out some major salary room right now. Best way for Hunington to build from scratch. Question is whether or not he can actually do that.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Looks like the deal was announced
Pirates trade Wilson and Ian Snell for Jeff Clement,Ronny Cedeno, Pribanic, Lorin, Adcock. The last three are C-level pitching prospects. Looks like a big salary dump by the Pirates, though Clement could be a very good hitter who can also catch.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
That seems like a pretty good deal for the Pirates
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
They'd basically given up on Snell
I guess he wasn’t getting along with the organization and had been pitching (very well) in AAA since the end of June. There is no reason for them to keep paying Wilson if they aren’t going to pick up his option for next season too and he’d already turned down an extension.
I’m not sure they got that great of a return outside of Clement though.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I'm not high on Cedeno
But Brett Lorin and Aaron Pribanic are familiar names and both are having good seasons in the MWL.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
its bound to piss off the remaining pirates
there’s been a lot of dissatisfaction on the team (displayed most vociferously by snell) because of a stale clubhouse and an organization that seems to be stripping away all its parts piece by piece. it seems like the players all feel like its just a matter of time before theyre traded, and that’s probably true. sanchez, doumit, maholm and duke are the only guys left from the 2006 team.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
that last sentence sounds very familiar.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Agreed
Wilson’s been bitching about wanting to move anyways. I’m surprised they got someone as highly regarded as Clement.
Either Doumit or Clement won't be catching
and I wonder if either has the bat to play a corner position.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Bad teams should worry about collecting talent first,
then figuring out where to play them or who to trade. They can flip Doumit now or this winter if they’re committed to starting Clement behind the plate.
yes and no
Definitely collect talent, but at some point you have to play the players you have. A talented catcher isn’t necessarily a talented anything else.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Cliff Lee on the verge of going to the Phillies
according to MLBTR
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
Guess they're not getting Halladay then
by Brendanukkah on Jul 29, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably not
But the rumored return is Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson. All are decent prospects, but the package doesn’t include any of the three top ones – Drabek, Brown and Taylor, who are all in BA’s top 25.
It’s still possible that the Phillies really go for broke and trade something like JA Happ and Drabek for Halladay.
I'd take who the Indians are getting
even with Donald struggling this year.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Yeah
Although Lee is signed through next year, right? (can’t see Cot’s at work because of the blogspot firewall). Cleveland could still put together a good team next year.
But I agree that the return isn’t bad. Carrasco was considered almost untouchable last year. He’s struggled a bit in AAA this year, but with good peripherals and he’s only 22. And catching prospects aren’t cheap.
If they are trading Lee they should shop Martinez hard. They won’t get anything for Hafner and Sizemore’s a keeper with a long-term deal.
Ben Francisco may go to Philly as well
Again, MLBTR
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
Was getting on here to say that ...
this deal keeps getting more interesting.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It's official
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
We’d been using the Reposter lately, but I haven’t seen Scrabbles around, so it looks like we might not get a Reposter today. I’ll get a trade deadline thread up in a bit.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Thanks Slyde!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade Deadline Thread
http://www.redreporter.com/2009/7/29/967831/trade-deadline-things-are-starting
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
looks like it frees up about $8 million in guaranteed money
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
According to Cots
The Pirates only have about $14M in guaranteed salary for 2010, and that’s including Pedro Alvarez.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
If we send them Arroyo, they could nearly double it
by Brendanukkah on Jul 29, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Do the Pirates have anything to offer...
What a worthless organization. I mean, they have some prospects in the pipeline, but man do they suck at winning baseball games.
And yet
they could still finish in front of the Reds this season.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
We start Willy Tavares, Alex Gonzalez,
Craig Tatum and sometimes Adam Rosales …
That’s how that’s possible.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sad.
I had such high hopes for this team.. but those 4 guys are really lucky to get on base twice combined. Then I look at the Rays’ lineup and the Dodgers lineup and get sadder.
that doesn't prevent the Reds from sucking
does it?
FWIW, I commend the Pirates organization for truly blowing things up. They’ve spent the last decade faking their way through things and signing bad contracts. They probably needed a dramatic move to flush the system and reboot. It’s a risky move, but if they do it right, they could be good in 2011. That’s more than I think you could say if they don’t make these deals.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Guess that's a very good point.
I just don’t want to accept that they’re winning more games than us in the process. I don’t think something like that is quite required for the Reds, but I think the prospects that could make this team competitive (i.e. when/if Alonso, Stubbs, Heisey, Soto, Wood, Bailey, Valakia if he recovers, Duran, Rodriguez are ready and on the same team) aren’t going to be there in 2010. I’m afraid the Reds organization is going to lose your studious fanship.
Sounds familiar
They’ve spent the last decade faking their way through things and signing bad contracts.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that far fetched
They did trade for Matt Morris a few years ago….
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
different GM
I think they might have a competent GM now.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
And guess where David Littlefield works now!
by Brian B on Jul 29, 2009 1:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And yet
they could still finish in front of the Reds this season.
If Sanchez gets traded, their highest paid player will be Paul Maholm at $2.5M.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I want the Reds to make a move just so we can talk about something / get angry
I have robot insurance.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 29, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
(Grabs Reds PR bullhorn)
Attention, everyone — Look at Pete! Look at him! He’s at the game wearing women’s glasses and sitting with a hooker (that’s possibly/probably a shim).
Ignore the product on the field, please. We’ll get something done (no we won’t).
Get irate at Bud Selig. That’s what you should be focusing on.
Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what is going on with Valaika?
i know he got hurt earlier this year but he’s been atrocious lately. i guess its good that he’s not striking out a lot but i thought he’d be tearing it up by now.
It looks like he's probably been a bit unlucky
In 230 or PAs, he’s had a 20.5% line drive rate but only a .242 BABIP (according to minorleaguesplits.com). Of course, improved BABIP still doesn’t make his numbers all that good. I especially don’t like how low his walk-rate has gotten, though I’m sure Dusty is giddy. If he’s not going to hit for power, and it doesn’t look like he’ll have a ton of it, then he needs to be really good at getting on base.
Purely conjecture, but I’d guess that the injury is still affecting him. If he’s not feeling pain, he’s probably at least having trouble getting his rhythm back.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Have you ever played Baseball Mogul, Slyde?
It’s funny, because like 10 of our prospects have “best player in baseball” potential in that game.
by Jake Liscow on Jul 29, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
clearly not a game for timb then.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
and no, I haven't played it
I used to play APBA a lot when I was a kid, but I’ve never found a computer sim game that could recreate that experience.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Apparently there is a computer-endorsed sim by APBA
http://tabletopbaseball.org/sbs.html
I think Baseball Mogul is fun but I don’t feel like I have enough control over coaching and approach.
I didn’t get to try OOTP Baseball because I couldn’t find a torrent to pirate it
Also, according to Baseball Mogul, Danny Dorn was our starting LF and had hit 10 homers through 70 games.. and adding Evan Longoria, Edgar Renteria (who was hitting .310 w/ 15 SB at that point) and Carl Crawford did not make the Reds a winning team. And Joey Votto’s ceiling is apparently only slightly above-average. Stupid game.
by Jake Liscow on Jul 29, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I think OOTP has a trial version available
I bought it once, but never found the time to really get into it. It seems like a good idea since you can update the players every year after the season for free.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Ohhhhhh.
I might try it out tonight.
I got really bored of Baseball Mogul because I think its ratings/projections are just really inaccurate. Mostly on Joey V. And I couldn’t find a way to edit players’ potential and stuff. Joey was hitting like .250 through 70 games and I said fuck it, I’m not playing this game anymore.
by Jake Liscow on Jul 29, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
i played mogul years ago
it was fun, but it anything like ootp.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
that should have been but it not anywhere near as good as OOTP
OOTP gives you total control. Mogul is easier and less involved, OOTP takes a little commitment, which is sad on my part. I think OOTP helped me lower my GPA by about .3. I could have graduated with honors if it weren’t for OOTP.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 29, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that your corrections of typos have typos
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
plus i enjoy the complete historic rosters
right now i am playing game 2 of the 1997 world series (I started this league in 1996). Randy Johnson is pitching for Cincinnati.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
How much is it? I'm intrigued.
Gonna try the demo tonight
by Jake Liscow on Jul 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds expensive.
But if it’s something to pay once and not ever again.. I’ll do it.
by Jake Liscow on Jul 29, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
well i mean you will probably want to get an updated game every few years
and if you can wait, they will discount it in the off season.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's in a long time and I'm bored now...
I’ll probably get bored quickly enough anyway.
But I want to play!
by Jake Liscow on Jul 29, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
what about
Diamond Mind? Has anyone tried that one?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Diamond Mine's my favorite transexual stripper dictator Bond villain.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
God Bless APBA
Me and Papa Schourek played a lot of that…we still have file folders with all of our games, and all of his games going back to the 60’s. The real fun is when you play the 1970 Reds vs. the 1999 Reds, or other such stuff. I really miss APBA…it’s even how I learned how to keep score. I’m gonna spend my afternoon looking at boxscores, I think.
it was me and my older brothers
I’ve only been punched in the face twice in my life. Once was for rolling a 66 on my brother’s side of the desk. Good times.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
no
that’s the only time I’ve been knifed to the throat.
The other time I was punched in the face was the same brother, while we were playing basketball.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
shhhh
he might hear you…
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
nah
we cool now. both of us had some growing up to do.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
"Once was for rolling a 66 on my brother’s side of the desk."
what does this mean?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
In APBA, you roll two different colored dice
one color represents the tens column and one represents the ones column. Put them together and you get a 2-digit number. 66 is usually a home run or a very good chance at a home run, depending on the hitter.
As for rolling it on my brother’s side of the desk, well, that’s just my teenage brother doing what older brother’s do.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
When my college buddies found out I played it
they called it Baseball The Gathering.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
some of my greatest memories are when
you get a 0 on a column that didn’t deserve it. Really? This 44 is getting me a triple? Well, ok, then.
I just want to let you know, BK, that I read this every day.
I just never quite know what to say… Good work though, every day!
I hope Joe Krebs goes far with us.
Because that is such fantastically lame biology pun nickname.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
He'd definitely energize the organization
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
It's all cyclical
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Yanks no longer interested in Arroyo, says MLB Trade Rumors.
So I guess we won’t find a suitor for his salary outside of LA. What a bad contract.
Yeah, but they said it again today. It's been a slow news day..
http://redswhiteandblue.com/2009/07/29/trade-rumors/ Apparently Harang would be involved in the Rolen deal, although this guy spells Jocketty “Jockerty” and cites no one.
Fuck that noise.
That’s just some idiot with a blog.
/Thom’d
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He is also just coming to realization that the Reds
are out of contention apparently
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 29, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Castalinni'd
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, butchered that one.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I could really go for a Reds rumor of any sort
This trade deadline is boring for us since no one wants to take our large contracts for players that don’t really deserve them… someone go tweet a false rumor, just so we have something to talk about
eh, when i got home last night
chan asked “who’s this Hanley Ramirez, and why are you guys so excited about getting him?”
It’s working!
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
first it must enter the mildly interested female population
and then it will spread through womanly gossip.
That’s sexist!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
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