Red Reposter 7/28/09
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT
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Jeff Fletcher at AOL Fanhouse was on top of the Reds all day yesterday
reporting that the team had moved into the "sellers" line and was close to making a move. He later reported that Bronson Arroyo was close to wearing Yankee pinstripes, but that rumor was later quashed. The non-waiver trade deadline is Friday at 4PM, and RedReporter is easily the greatest place on the www.internet to keep up with all the goings-on. -
Jinaz has been working on position-by-position historical WAR reviews
and begins this tall task behind the dish. Guess what? Johnny Bench is the greatest catcher ever. -
RLN points us in the direction of this list
and this absolutely galling line: "it's time for Willy Taveras' playing career to be over." I want this posted on Dusty Baker's bulletin board. -
THT takes a look at the best teams to lose the World Series
and tosses them all together into a 28 team league and plays big time mash 'em up. The 1995 Indians end up being the best team to never win it all, and it's hard to argue that. That team scared the holy ghost out of me. -
Maury Brown has a interesting discussion on sports and social networking
Straight from the people who are doing the networking. It's also an easy way to find a bunch of baseball related twitter accounts, though none that are Reds related. -
Andy Sedlak at the DDN
Is still stewing over the blown call on Sunday when Edwin Encarnacion was called out at home. He wants instant replay to be expanded so we can avoid these game-deciding calls from being botched. I tend to agree, but what do you think? -
In case you missed it
Slyde was on with Mo Egger yesterday. You can listen by checking out the 7/27 show Hour 2. It's right at the start of that mp3.
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Interesting read about Brian Bannister
who is a stathead who happens to pitch in the Majors. (from THT)
He studied the Pitch FX data and learned what was working and what wasn’t, and this perhaps could have extended his career a lot longer than one would expect. Excellent use of the tools available to you. It’s especially cool to see a pitcher take matters into his own hands and try to fix himself.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
that's pretty remarkable...
I’ve sold out to those numbers….and its the difference between being a 5.70 ERA guy and a 3.70 ERA guy.
I like some of the trade proposals in the comments section...
Arroyo and Janish for Teagarden and Andrus…make it happen Walt!
by Snake the Jake on Jul 28, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Idiocy
Arroyo has a quality start in eight of his 10 wins. He’s also got one shutout and two shutout outings (7 and 8 innings). His numbers are skewed by two bad (really bad) outings.
The reason more teams aren’t interested in him isn’t his metrics, it’s his contract and spotty consistency. If he was due $5 million less over the next year and a half he’d already be gone for three players.
Nah, playoff-caliber teams never need more experienced pitching down the stretch. Especially Not with three short playoff series in three weeks to win the World Series. Nope.
It is idiocy
Are you really quoting a # of quality starts in his wins stat?
How many quality starts did he have in his 9 losses and 1 no decision?
How many games did he cough up 5 earned runs or more in 6 innings or less? Can we deem that an unquality start?
He's Kept Them in Games
I’m saying Arroyo has kept his team in games more than it appears, which is the purpose of the quality starts stat. He’s got a QS in one no-decision and one loss, and his three worst outings occurred at that bandbox ballpark and the other was at Toronto.
The bullpen has blown two of his games and the bullpen allowing inherited runners to score has cost another.
Does that mean Arroyo is great? No. But it really does help to look at these things on the game log splits—as the scouts and front offices do—instead of reading a few blanket stat lines they rarely reference, if at all.
Considering that
just about every single metric — his K rate, HR rate, HR rate, and consequently FIP and tRA — has gone down with Arroyo, I would say that they do have a lot to do with no one wanting him
by bengalsneedagm on Jul 28, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, Likely Not
Why would the Yankees have sent their pro level scouts to two starts for Arroyo, put together a trade package and have it shot down by Castellini over the money the Reds would have to eat if the Yankees didn’t want him? They could have looked at your metrics and made a decision without all the groundwork . . . but alas, front offices really only give glancing looks at the metrics so many of you need to evaluate a major league player.
But you keep believing they’re making decisions based on those numbers.
If they don't look at those numbers
then that’s all I need to know about good organizations vs. bad organizations. If you think the Yankees didn’t take those numbers into consideration, you’re fooling yourself.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I didn't say
that’s the only thing Cashman is making the decision on, but it’s certainly one thing (it’s kind of why his contract is so ridiculous)
by bengalsneedagm on Jul 29, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, he's just on a one-year contract, right?
Sure, if he sustains these numbers over the next month, I wouldn’t mind keeping him in left. That’s a big if, though…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Gomes - arbitration eligible
According to rotoworld, Gomes is arb eligible the next two seasons and not a free agent until 2012.
love that. he deserves a little bit of attention right now--he's on a tear.
this is chinny rack though:
An outfield of Gomes-Drew Stubbs-Jay Bruce in 2010 with Chris Dickerson as a fourth outfielder sounds pretty good to me.
i don’t know if i agree. i’d still like to keep our options open on a LF.
That's not going to cut it
though I’d love to re-sign Gomes if he keeps this up. I think you have to at least add a Bobby Abreu-type. I’d like to think Dickerson and Stubbs could man CF, but I just don’t know what to expect from them over a full season. Too many unknowns in Gomes, Stubbs and Bruce, though tons of upside.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they'd just stick Dickerson in CF next year and put him near the bottom of the order.
His strong defense is good enough for me, and his offensive numbers are far better than Tavares, and most impressive is his far better OBP. Also, he is more apt to take a walk than Willy. I think Dick could be trained to be well suited for the 7th or 8th spot in the lineup. Plus he has speed for when he’s sacrificed over.
I want a new bat in LF. Preferably a RH power bat who hits for average. I wish Holiday were still available. The good news is that Matt came out and said he wants to wait until after the season and test free agency. I think this has to do with the fact he’s actually starting to hit better and might put up a good second half. Also, there are rumors that other teams have already quietly talked to Boras about Holiday in the offseason, which means Matt would be stupid to sign with the Cards right now without checking out other options.
I like that they point out that six of his ten homers have come against right-handers
by Brendanukkah on Jul 28, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I just watched Votto's tirade again
Classic!
“That’s fucking horseshit! Use your fucking eyes!”
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I just posted a crappy rip from mlb.tv
to youtube here. I won’t leave it up for long, since I don’t feel like waiting for MLB to pull the damn thing.
Oh, and it’s silent, but you don’t need sound anyway.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
that was fucking awesome
fuck yes, Gray. Way to use your fucking computer skills. Fucking brilliant.
Joey Votto just might fit in around these parts...
although his actual athletic abilities would set him apart.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
as would his ability to pick up women, I'm guessing
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
i heard the reds are in talks with florida
to trade hanley for stubbs and alonso. word is they’re not real enthusiastic about hanley’s escalating contract. maybe we’ll be seeing him in cincy, or maybe i just made that up.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
oooooh
I’m totally going to tweet that.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
nah
I’ve been using it for a couple of months. But rumors spread a lot faster on twitter, as evidenced yesterday.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I hope I hope I hope
but I think you’re playing with us, boobs.
by Cy Schourek on Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit
I thought it was going to be a “playing with boobs” video
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Let Slyde be the judge of that.
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, man.
Do you have any idea when Leonard Peltier is next up for parole?
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i cant talk
im in Leonard Peltier’s petition-for-release hearing. he’s being very convincing
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
It may seem minor
but this is my favorite Dusty quote ever, "Those were big plays by Willy," Baker said. "That’s the Willy I remember. When I was with the Cubs, he threw us out three days in a row at the plate. I was cussing Willy that day."
Now, on the surface, all seems, er, fine. But, this tells me all in need to know about Johnnie B. Baker. He operates on the memory of what he once saw a player do and gives that player a pass for the rest of his career waiting for the event to repeat itself. He is not to be trusted to make out a line-up. He is not to be trusted with any player decisions whatsoever. He is the epitome of experimenters bias.
Also, I wonder which of the three days he’s referring to when he cussed Willy that day.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
Just to play Devil's Advocate
I think Baker is wearing his “Player’s Manager” hat here. It’s clear he gives Willy a horribly misguided amount of leeway, but I would hope any manager would give props to their CFer for executing two assists in one game.
I think Baker’s biggest crime vis a vis Willy (at least up until the ASB) was not the he played him regularly, but that he batted him leadoff regularly. WIlly was brought on to be the starting CF and had a good May. I think that earns him half a season of getting 70%-80% of starts.
Now that we’re at around 100 games, he’s definitely run out the string and proven that May was an aberration.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"it's time for Willy Taveras' playing career to be over."
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
att least as an MLB starter. I just don’t like assigning undue blame for his performance to Baker.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
by now it is totally on Baker's (and Walt's) shoulders
a good manager (and GM) would understand that not only is Taveras not good enough to hit at the top of the order, but he’s not good enough to play regularly. sure, it’s Taveras’ fault for being a suckbag, but it’s also the team’s fault for being too dumb to notice.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's all I'm getting at
- that the blame is diffused a little. Clearly, we’re beyond the pale here. The unfortunate twist of fate is Dickerson’s injury – and the fact that Stubbs is going to have to hit .350 before he’s called up (or September comes).
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda like mrs m. talking about our sex life
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
Via MLBTR:
Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports says the Reds “haven’t ruled out” a Rolen acquisition, but must wait to see what the Jays do with Roy Halladay first
Is this a gambit? I think I’ve finally landed back in opposition of this move. Edwin is a frustrating player and I think I let that obscure my judgment. He’s been hitting since his return. He’s going to hit for more power than Rolen this year and he’s younger/cheaper etc.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
I'm still on the fence about it.
IMO go after Rolen/Scutaro for 2010.
Rolen provides veteran leadership, a .300+ hitter with some pop that will be amplified by GABP, and stellar defense at 3B (unless his UZR is down)
Scutaro would be a huge upgrade at SS. But there haven’t been talks about him at all.
The only talks about Scutaro are
that Toronto wants to resign him next season even if they trade him now.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Why buy high on Rolen/Scutaro?
Scutaro has never hit like this before in the majors, and he’s 33.
Rolen hasn’t hit like this since 2006, except that he’s no longer much of a homerun threat. More doubles power now.
I'm just keeping the goal of 2010 in mind.
If Rolen and Scutaro were here in 2010, I think the team would be better. But it’s not like this is my preference.
Who needs Scutaro in 2010?
We’ll have Hanley Ramirez!
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
For a team that needs a power bat
this is a weird move. I think trading Edwin’s power for Rolen’s defense / contact hitting makes it very nearly a wash when you factor in the bump in payroll. If paying Rolen next year means we can’t acquire both a league average SS and a power OF bat, I’m going to be pissed. This isn’t a terrible move as part of a larger strategy to improve the team incrementally, but I think it’s probably symtomatic of backwards thinking. Front office doesn’t like Edwin, but they’re something intangible about Willy and A-Gon that will let them stick around and be complete zeroes.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Speculation here says Lehr or Kip Wells
Lecure is on the 40 man, but his performance isn’t up to snuff.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
LeCure's been okay
He’s 7-5 with a 4.27 ERA so far in 99 AAA innings. His K/BB is pretty decent too, at 81/31. I don’t think he’s a stud prospect who’s outgrown AAA, but if he gets the call, I don’t think it’s the worst move ever, considering he’s already on the 40-man.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
it took lecure a while to adjust to AAA
his numbers in the past month and a half or so have been really good. but i dont think he’ll fare well given another promotion right now.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
I don't think he would do well either
But I think he’d be serviceable in a few spot starts until Volquez gets back.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i really dont think he would even be serviceable
he was pretty awful in his first few starts in louisville. the majors would eat him up i would think.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
would he be any worse than Wells or Lehr?
it seemed that the man for the job is Maloney, but he pitched last night. Why not RamRam?
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 28, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i like lehr for the spot starts
he’s 31 and a AAA lifer, but i think he’s plenty crafty enough to get some outs in the majors.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
you are diabolical
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
You don't think the 40-man will have any impact on it?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
im sure it will
i would just rather see lehr get the starts than lecure, from a reds fan’s perspective
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
Isn't it as easy as moving Bruce
to the 60-day?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that new shit has come to light re: Wells
I’m with you. It’s a total crapshoot anway.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
did we ever find out
why LeCure was pulled early from his last start?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Hasn't been reported
My theory is that they just wanted to keep his pitch count down. He had gone on the DL for a week before that start with a strained oblique.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure wish
the Louisville Bats had a beat writer who blogs, like Scranton does.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
i might be falling behind
but since when was Kip Wells in the organization?
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 28, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Picked him up on a minor league deal about a month ago
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
just found that out
the bigger question is: why is Kip Wells in the organization?
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He's put up a decent line in a handful off starts for the Bats
I think it’s a toss-up b/w him and Lehr
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been pitching mostly in the pen for the Bats
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah
I just assumed he was starting… So maybe he isn’t such a good idea?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a game
called “Collect Disappointing 1st Round Picks in AAA.”
Good news – we’re winning!
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
i know it has been a while
but i didn’t realize winning was so disappointing.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 29, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
That picture of Joey
makes me think he’s saying, “Nuh uh, you are!”
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
A nice little write up of this here site at the Cincinnati Business Courier
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I like how we're getting the most publicity for the "serious issues" label on the title bar
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this
No offense to the good folks in the Cincinnati Enquirer’s sports department, but its Reds coverage just doesn’t have the same bat speed as redreporter.com
Very flattering, but honestly, we still wouldn’t be anywhere without companies like the Enquirer.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
From mlb trade rumors
The Boston Herald says the Red Sox are looking for a right-handed hitting fourth outfielder who plays good defense. He mentions Willie Bloomquist and Cody Ross as possible fits.
So, does anyone know a right handed hitting OF who plays good defense (maybe he had two assists last night?) the Red Sox can have?
Are they still looking for a SS
I think we could throw in one of them, too. Bats 2nd. Good defense, right?
Hi, Theo, Walt here...
You ever seen us play? No, well, you’ve missed a real treat in Willy and Alex. [sighs] I got to be going, but I can give you both of them for Clay Bucholz….Really…yeah, they’re both awesome. [listens]. Well, I’ll send the paperwork right over.
And, Scene
I bet that could happen. I’m praying for it, even though I’m a heathen
So...
there’s going to be a couple scouts from the Yankees here tonight to watch Arroyo…
Arroyo loves it here, right? so, he’ll throw the game?
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Jul 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
Source?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/yankees_searching_for_arms.html
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Jul 28, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
From Mo
McDonald’s expands their menu:
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
That's 9 and 9/10ths
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
you get what you pay for
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
But check out the Diesel
Wicked cheap, with an Ecto-Plasm fuel injection
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I got him on my fantasy team as my backup catcher
Brad Anusburger has sold out to MickyD’s
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
Screw that.
She would expect me to do all the work.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 28, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
true
on a related note, Votto’s “get your eyes checked” gesture was great. I hope he becomes a manager when he quits playing. He could be the new, much better looking, Lou Pinella.
Joey Votto is some kind of man-candy. - Jeff "The Cowboy" Brantley
by Dude Rock on Jul 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did he actually say that?
My bro, who does a sick impression of Brantely, was saying stuff like that and I didn’t know if he was making it up lol
How much crossover is there between the RR community
and the AVClub?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
acid, bitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqbwGHqsb9A&feature=related
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
Tonight's dumbass lineup (via Fyaplyacement)
Taveras 8
Gonzalez 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Encarnacion 5
Nix 7
Gomes 9
Tatum 2
Arroyo 1
What’s going on with Hanigan?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
Hanigan has a stiff neck or something
Sure is taking awhile to recover.
Oh, and thought I’d share this tidbit (via redszone who found it on soflamarlins.com)
Evidently the Reds, Marlins and Yanks could be contemplating some three-way action, according to some “insider” in Florida.
Reds get: Jeremy Hermida and prospects
Yanks get: Cody Ross and Arroyo
Marlins get: Arthur Rhodes, a bat, and prospects
"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.
by cesarhernandez on Jul 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That one sounds halfway believeable
I guess it all turns on who the prospects are and how much of Arroyo’s salary is being picked up.
Hermida has looked like he’s entering first round bust territory these last two seasons. I’d hope he isn’t the solution for LF, though he still has upside.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't hate this
It gets rid of some salary, gets us a decent LF, and even gets us returns for Rhodes whom will probably not have any worth after this season.
How is Hermida defensively? Cost wise?
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless he's much better defensively than Gomes, I'm not seeing
how this helps us in LF. Last year and this year, his OPS+ has been consistently hovering in the low 90s. Sure, he’s young. Is that the advantage?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
That's what I'm saying
I’m not sure how he is defensively. His contract is cheap, but it is up after this year.
The thing that I like most about this is that we get Arroyo off the books (at least for the most part). Rhodes wont be around next year anyway. Or he will be but he won’t be nearly as good as he is now.
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He has 'pedigree,' and therefore the hope is he still has some potential.
All he needs is a little time with Brook Jacoby and he’ll be right as rain.
That’s the idea, anyway.
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
He had one good season in 2007
with an OPS+ of 125, after an OPS+ of 84 in 2006. And now he’s working on his second straight mediocre season since…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
His splits are much better against righties
Maybe they’re thinking a platoon next year in LF with Gomes?
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh God.
Yeah, that’ll be so much better than what we have.
(He’s OPSing .776 against righties this year)
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Just trying to guess their mind
He does have upside – but based on this years stats alone, he’s not really an improvement over NIx.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Could he be our Carlos Quentin?
The 2008 version
Not the 2009 injured version
2 years younger than Gomes?
This whole “incremental improvement” thing does not a happy Cy Schourek make.
I think he's negative defensively
He might be a marginal improvement over Nix. Maybe a change of scenery could lead to a second half surge and the Reds could re-sign him for cheap. He’d make a good fourth outfielder with room to grow.
If he’s the centerpiece of the deal, it sucks. The prospects and salary relief would have to compensate, considering we’d be dealing two of our best trading chips.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was using the AD "hermano" joke just this weekend
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
I wasn't sure why the Marlins would want/need Arthur Rhodes..
..so I went loking at their pitching staff’s stats on BBRef. An interesting note- the Marlins have used 27 pitchers so far this season.
I’m still not sure why they’d need Arthur Rhodes for a coupla months.
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah.
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So we are going for a 5th? 6th? day without Hanigan now
What are the odds that he ends up on the DL in a day or two?
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, it'll take at least another week.
Then we’ll be calling up the AA catcher…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
You're right
No problem playing with a short bench at all… again
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Hogwash
We’re one DL trip away from Part 2 of the Corky Miller era in Cincinnati. Or more Paul Bako.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I forgot about Corky Miller.
But how are we getting Bako back-o?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
If Hanigan has to go on the DL
they might trade for a veteran catcher nobody wants
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
why the fuck
is Gomes batting 7!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
“When you hit 2 HR, you get to hit before the catcher. That’s how we did it back in L.A.”
-Dusty
This lineups are gonna be wicked retarted for as long as Dusty is here
Reds: Love ’em of leave ’em!
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to be very sad when August 1st rolls around.
With a team that is out of contention and no trades to follow up on I’m gonna be bored
FWIW I think our expensive starters could easily clear waivers and be traded after the deadline.
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, which player this season has the most ejections?
it would be pretty amazing if he got the NL batting title AND the most ejections.
Via Chad at Redleg Nation:
Willy Taveras’s numbers, 2008/09 combined: 216 games, .249/.299/.297. That’s a 596 OPS and an OPS+ of 55 – by far the worst in the majors over that span.
Gonzo’s 2009 numbers (he didn’t play last year, and it was the best season he’s had as a Red): .209/.254/.293. An OPS of .547 and an OPS+ of 42.
We all already knew this, but seeing both those lines together really makes the mind melt.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
Nah...we got rid of Adam Dunn
he was the worst
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Jul 28, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
jumpin' Jesus!
he has a 151 OPS+ right now. And only 25 homers, so maybe he’s a good baseball player now after all.
yeah
but he’s given back every bit of that with his glove. he’s lost 2.5 games with that cinder block of a glove of his.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 28, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And don't forget Tatum and Nix
that’s half the lineup tonight that’ll be lucky to get on base more than one time combined.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You really have to wonder what Dusty is thinking
It doesn’t take a genius to realize that you put people at the top of the order that actually get on base…
Even if you go with his speed theory, A-Gon is nowhere near “quick”
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
seems like when he negotiated, he pulled a fast one on the Reds!
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
#2 is bat control
and Gonzalez is a Latin Shortstop
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
CF and SS have been such black holes for the past two seasons
compounded by the fact that Dusty’s religion or whatever obligates him two bat those two positions 1 and 2. He is soooo weird!
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair, Seabass put up a OPS+ of 99 in '07
in 430 PAs. That’s nothing to be excited about, of course, but it’s not a cancerous tumor on the lineup
That was a long time ago
and he hasn’t come close to that level since.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I'm just saying that he did more for the Reds in 2007 than he did for them in 2008.
of course, the same could be said for Corey Patterson.
Yeah, but we're lucky enough not to have Corey Patterson hanging around any more.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Uhhh, Nix has an OBP of .292.
EdE would be a better fit to bat second, but clearly Gonzalez should not be there.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Options be damned
I’d love to see this when Hanigan’s neck loosens up"
Stubbs CF
Hanigan C
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Gomes LF
Encarnacion 3B
Heisey RF
Hairston SS
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You'll get no argument from me
but we both know that won’t happen.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
It's so very attainable
Someone already hipped me to the fact that Stubbs is too old to worry about clock. And Heisey is a freebie (ie a suprise prospect) who has been tearing it up and they should evaluate him before they start making moves for next year.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If Stubbs is too old, then Heisey is too old too
They’re basically the same age (Stubbs is 2 months older)
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Oh wow OK
More to the point then.
The clock argument made sense to me before, but now it doesn’t. Especially since this team isn’t behaving like it’s trying to steel itself for next year.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Y'know, someone else was too old to begin the training too
That worked out okay.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 28, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Only for the Republic!!
/kicks storm trooper mask back under bed
//shoots blaster, misses target by 30 feet
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 28, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren't you a little short to be a storm trooper?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's boots have lifts in them ...
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 28, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He's in the 2 spot on my MLB 2k9 team
and he’s raking
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Can this be the first "white paper" the Red Reporter Insitute generates?
With signatures from all across Reds country
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
the first line will be wishfuldrifter's
“We believe Ryan Hanigan should hit in the number 2 spot from now on because that’s where he rakes the most on MLB 2k9.”
It's at least as legit as whatever argument Dusty can muster
for batting A-Gon second. Seriously, someone – to the white paper drafting table immediately.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean
multicultural paper voluntary service table
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
t;hese people need to shut up
or other teams are going to stop wanting Arroyo.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
It's like they think he's not a great pitcher or something
I mean he has 10 wins, amiright?
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wins are the most important stat
I challenge anybody to prove differently!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I didn't know that william Shatner player for the Phillies
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
the money is supposedly what the Yankees are balking at
I don’t think Cashman will pull the trigger unless the Reds eat some salary.
However, the Yankees are pretty desperate for pitching. Nobody’s in love with Arroyo, but if they don’t trade for someone, it’s going to be Mitre or Igawa.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I hope they can find a way to keep their chin up.
I mean, I know they will because they are from New York, and New Yorkers are resilient! But still, you can’t help but feel sorry for them struggling in first place.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Yankees have a couple of good looking catching prospects
I wouldn’t mind if we got one of them.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
More like B prospects
Jesus Montero and Austin Romine. I doubt they give up Montero – he looks like a total stud – but his existence might make Romine expendable. Romine is probably a few years away, but I’d say he’s ahead of Mesoraco, who I think gets more hype than he deserves.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Yes
I highly doubt there’s anything out there as detailed as FM, but I’ve heard good things about Baseball Mogul and Out Of The Part (OOTP). I think justin’s played one of them.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jul 28, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone's watching an ESPN channel right now, you have to be laughing
BREAKING NEWS: Brett Favre is still retired.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
He was killed by
..
Frank Stallone.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I call dibs on
Brett Favre’s Retirement Party
as a band name/fantasy football team
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 28, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi guys, what did I miss?
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
I'm going with...
Half a dozen red lights.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 28, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm sick of all the trade rumors that don't involve us
getting rid of some of our junk… and I really wish Halladay would just be traded already… I actually am sick of that one
We should be so lucky to finish in third
by Brendanukkah on Jul 28, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be up for a 82-80 season
Regardless of where we finish in the division
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
first off, finishing the season 10 games over is impossible. Second, there’s no way i’d want to finish 82-80 and third in the division, losing draft slot and perpetuating the idea that we’re just a piece or two away from competing
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
How much does a few draft slots really matter?
MLB draft is a crapshoot and an org like the Reds is probably going to pick for signability anyway. If next year isn’t the year they’re in the hunt, they’re fucked anyway.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 28, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the reds havent shown recently that they pick for signability
alonso, yorman and duran were all big signings, and leak won’t be cheap. they’ve done a good job of investing in talent. slot isn’t a huge deal, but if it’s the difference between picking 4th and picking 20th and missing the playoffs regardless, i’d definitely take the better slot.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
From Fay's blog
Today, Baker said the Reds have kept their ears perked up.
"We’ve been inquiring and searching," Baker said. "Everybody wants our top, top guys."
I will assume that by “top,top guys” he means top prospects and not guys like Bruce or Votto. But if we are just gonna let all of our prospects rot in AAA, why not trade a few off? I’d like to see Heisey or Stubbs on our big league team, but if they bring back a great SS I think I’d have to give it some thought.
I'm guessing he means Arroyo and Harang.
"Okay, it's a bag of flour but... why does a bag of flour have 'XXX' on it?'
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
StumbleUpon through the online games
A great way to pass some time
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 28, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is the best place to talk about Lance McAlister's last blog
Bad weather and no sleep get me in a ranty mood.
http://www.1530wcky.com/pages/lancesBlog.html
Last night, someone mentioned that Lance thought Votto’s gettiong ejected would earn him a rep. Further, Lance argued that the rep would continue to get Joey bad calls. I agree with that, but, after having a look at the full blog, it started tp bother me. He said Votto’s ejection was an “embarrasment” I don’t garee with that. I’m not sure he actually watched the last couple of games and the silly bad calls we have been getting (the EE at the plate being the worst).
Votto should not take it upon himself to do this. because we do need him too much (Lance was right about that), but someone needs to protect our team from bad calls (Dusty!). Finally, I guess I just got a little fed up wth the “eat your vegetables” tone I see in alot of sports writing. Should Votto have gone and got himself ejected in the first inning? Probably not. Will all this ejecting earn him a rep? I think the first one did, actually, and the umps are testing him a little, or pushing him a little. Lance did fail to mention that Crawford taunted a little himself.
I saw Votto about to go off during that Phillies series and he really hasn’t dialed it back since. It has been terribly frustrating of late, but he does need to let it go (maybe he takes the team’s failures as a personal failure of his own). If he gets ejected again, we get more Rosales!
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