Sun rises in the east, teammates give no support to Harang, water is wet, Reds lose 8-5
by Slyde on Jul 24, 2009 6:52 PM EDT
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Aramis Ramirez. He was 4-5 with a HR and 3 RBI. New rule: don't pitch to hitters named Ramirez.
Key Plays
- In the first inning the Reds had runners on 1st and 3rd with one out and the middle of the order up, but Brandon Phillips hit into a double play to kill the rally.
- In the second inning, the Reds had runners on 1st and 3rd with one out, but couldn't score until Aaron Harang came up and hit a home run, giving the Reds a 3-1 lead.
- With the wind blowing out, the Cubs decided that they weren't done scoring. The Reds sent the scoring question to committee. The Cubs had homers from Ramirez, Mike Fontenot, Jeff Baker, and Derrek Lee. The Reds had 3 base runners in the 3rd through 8th innings.
- Down 8-3 in the top of the 9th, the Reds decided it was safe to start swinging the bats without fear of actually getting Harang off the hook for the loss. A two-out, bases loaded single by Willy Taveras plated 2 runs and brought Joey Votto to the plate as the tying run. The ump decided the game should end there by calling two questionable strikes off the plate, including the last pitch of the game to ring Joey up.
Other Notes
- Harang's home run was the first of his career. It has to be frustrating when you hit a 3-run home run and only give up 4 runs on the day and your teammates can't do a single thing to keep you from getting tagged with the loss.
- Edwin Encarnacion has reached base in all but 3 of the 18 games he's appeared in since returning from injury.
- Taveras has a hit in 9 of his last 10 games.
- The Reds have lost 4 games in a row, matching the longest losing streak of the season that they have accomplished twice before.
- They've lost 6 games in a row on the road as well as 9 of their last 11. They are just 7-13 overall in July.
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Why can't the Wrigley Ivy be like Iowa corn?
Willy could walk into and vanish. Never to be seen again.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 24, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
As good a place as any
I will be MIA, East bound and down on a mission for Yuengling. See you bitches Tuesday or so.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Well I see that the Cards did a little business today
Meanwhile Harang gives ups at least 4 runs again.
Bummer Bummer Bummer
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
yeah Harang did hit a 3 run homer though
He is a 4 run guy now, though, which seems to be too many runs for this team to overcome.
Tomorrow we are going to win. I know it! Just so everyone knows where my loyalties lie, those Chicago umps are liars and blind (I didn’t actually see the last pitch to Votto, but I’m sure it wasn’t a strike).
You’re right about the bummer part. It’s just getting depressing at this point as opposed to aggravating (it’s still that, but now it just feels like we are in a major slump with no clear light at the end of the tunnel)
Jon Heyman Tweet
bronson arroyo just hit the trading block, i hear. looks like #reds are unloading.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Do the Reds have to get something back for him, or would you be happy just dumping his salary?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
have to get something, I think
That’s not just Bronson favoratism (I enjoy his wacky personality). He gave us something like 15 wins a year right? We need to get something decent for that.
Plus, we really need more pieces now and someone decent like Bronson s one of our best chances to get someone halfway usable
Yeah, agreed.
Bronson’s stock has gone up recently and he could fetch a decent prospect or two. Plus, without his salary this winter the Reds could maybe add a bat or two.
is the kid from the Braves really a possibility?
or is that just smoke being blown
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Yeah, we'll take Tommy Hanson for Arroyo and call it even.
\Spits in hand
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
just hit the trading block?
They’ve been shopping him for awhile, haven’t they? Seems like the rumors have been around, anyway.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I heard last evening (Friday) that Arroyo to the Yanks...
was in the works. The names we get back were Brett Gardner and possibly Sergio Mitre.
Since the first time the Reds stepped foot in California this season, the Reds are 24-37
since the game you are talking about (not counting the game itself) they are 24-35.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
what is it about the west?
It really boggles the mind. Speaking of bad streaks, is it at all possible that this Reds team could go on a streak like the Rockies? It would be so enjoyable
A treak requires average pitching and high offense, generally
to prevent losing streaks, you need great pitching. Again, generally.
So, INMH no way this team can
that sounds right
so if the offense really is strong and teh pitching does a decent job for a while a streak makes sense. This team has a frighteningly poor offense at the moment
Harang may end up asking for a trade.
Which just had me checking whether San Diego had anybody the Reds would want.
(Harang goes home, thanks to the big guy, best of luck sort of thing.)
But the Padres are even worse off than the Reds.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
My prediction for Reds traded:
Bronson for 2 B-level prospects, one of which will probably be a PTBNL, maybe to the Phils
Rhodes to LAD for a B-level prospect or so
Weathers to BOS or NYY for some cog in the machine
Aside from that I’m clueless! I has no insight.
why
wanna give them Hernandez back?
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
any one else notice that ever since Joey V
got run a few weeks ago he is getting some really, really questionable calls? Seems like the umps have a little axe to grind
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
They're jackasses
Joey was nothing but professional about the situation after he got tossed.
by Brian B on Jul 24, 2009 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
absolutely
he was such a gnetleman after that. I thought"lesson teching" was part of teh reason for tossing anyway
could be
He Who Shall Not Be Named said umpires make a point of “teaching a lesson” to young players who think they’re hot stuff. They feel it’s their duty to put them in their place or something.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
That sounds like Dusty and Brantley
by Brian B on Jul 24, 2009 11:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
okay, I'll name him
He’s possibly my favorite broadcaster, but persona non grata here: Al Leiter.
One of the reasons I like him is that he’ll say things other broadcasters won’t, possibly because he’s sort of a newbie and doesn’t know better. He often talks about the unwritten rules for players and umpires, which umpires are jerks who will start shrinking the strike zone if you show any annoyance at their calls, etc.
He says umpires will often be tougher on young players. Seniority counts for a lot in baseball.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Mr. Hornsby will tell you when you throw a strike, son
that quote is like 75 years old. Umpires like veterans they know and like as much as Dusty does.
Caution...rant coming
I am absolutely seething over the Holliday trade today…a lot angrier than this team deserves or is healthy for an individual like me.
Its not just that I advocated the Reds getting Holliday the last time I wandered out of my burrow.
Its not even that I think that Holliday would get the Reds over the hump at this late date in the season…he might have been able to do that, but at this point, I am writing this season off, as I am sure at least of you are.
The big problems I am having accepting this happening to us again…are these:
1. You had to have the feeling before this went down that the Cardinals were going to make a major move. Did they give up the farm? Too early to tell, but maybe they did. So the hell what?! They win.
2. You know that if he performs like they expect him to, they WILL resign him. There’s not a question about this. And if he doesn’t, they get the compensatory draft picks. That seems like a win-win for them.
3. Meanwhile, up until about a week before the all-star break, the Reds seem to have a chance…they are floundering and desperately in need of a breath of fresh air. Trading for Holliday would have done that for them. Now flash forward to today. The season is basically over, just like it always is this time of year. It stinks like a rotten fish left out in the sun. Even if Walt had pulled off the trade today instead of the Cardinals, how wide do you think his shoulders are? Could he carry the offense and defense? Could he pitch?
4. My wife (a Cardinals fan) summed it up perfectly: “The team always gets to the brink, but never commits.” I hate them for not making the Holliday trade, the De Rosa trade, or the Sabathia trade last year, or the Rolen trade from Philly a few years back, or any one of a dozen other trades that they COULD have made to get us over the hump and didn’t.
And the capper is that the front office KNEW they needed a big OF bat in the offseason and did exactly jack and squat to get one. Not then, not now. Probably not ever. We are always being sold a bill of goods about how this team is “about to go on a run” or “just needs one more big bat” or “one more year.” I’m just sick of it.
I hate myself for loving this team.
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Jul 24, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Brillian Rant...next time don't hold back
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
well, at least we're not pirates fan
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
by joshuar9476 on Jul 24, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
for all the good that does us, I guess
is there much difference?
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Jul 25, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't like your rant
I’ve been a little pissy today for a number of reasons, but I’m glad the Cardinals went for holiday. Dude is fools gold, and the cards have zero in the minors. This is Mulder part deuce.
by Brian B on Jul 24, 2009 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not as if their team is old. They have plenty of talent at the majors and Holliday just makes them better
personally, today, I’d much rather be a Cards fan than a Reds fan and I imagine that will hold true for the next couple of years
No one's stopping you from being a cardinals fan
Holliday doesn’t make the team any younger. His age is irrelevent when he leaves for free agency. He’s just not good enough to warrant a three month rental.
If you just want the Reds to “show you that they want to win” . . . I don’t have anymore patience for those token moves anymore. I’m sure Bob’s intern it already working on the postseason letter to the season ticket holders.
by Brian B on Jul 24, 2009 11:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He won't be there for three months. More like 5 years
Not to repeat a point I made earlier, but Larry Walker, Mark McGwire, Todd Stottlemyre, Jim Edmonds, and Scott Rolen ALL signed long-term deals with the Cards after trades. Holliday will be a Card, I’m guessing, for the next 3-5 years.
But will Pujols?
The fear from Cards fans (and St. Louis writers) is that they have the money for one, but not both. Sign Holliday and possibly watch Albert walk.
Now, Pujols could sign for cheap — and I he seems like the guy that might do that. If that’s the case, then, yes, it could go St. Louis’ way.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 25, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
No way the Cards let Albert walk
under any circumstances.
I mean, really…can anyone picture that organization doing that? Really?
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Jul 25, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
Money talks.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 25, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Also,
f the economy turns around, Albert could make a klling in free agency. If you think A-Rod’s deal is ridiculous. You have seen nothing yet.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 25, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
And what did the Mulder trade stop them from doing?
Nothing. They still win.
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Jul 25, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Good to see you, but I'm not in agreement with your little rant
Do you honestly believe that putting Matt Holliday in LF solves enough of the Reds problems to get them out of 4th place and to the top of the NL Central? A division with the likes of Pujols, Fielder, and Lee? Even if the Reds got Holliday, Willy Taveras still starts and bats leadoff everyday. Alex Gimpzalez is still the shortstop. There’s still big question marks in the rotation with Volquez hurt, Bailey and Cueto not producing lately, and Bronson and Harang lacking consistency. Jay Bruce is still out of the lineup until September, and that’s if he makes it back.
1. You had to have the feeling before this went down that the Cardinals were going to make a major move. Did they give up the farm? Too early to tell, but maybe they did. So the hell what?! They win.
If you match up the Reds with what the Cards gave up, it breaks down to a package like Yonder/Stewart/Heisey. Are you okay with giving up that much for 2 months of Matt Holliday? I’m not.
2. You know that if he performs like they expect him to, they WILL resign him. There’s not a question about this. And if he doesn’t, they get the compensatory draft picks. That seems like a win-win for them.
I’m not so sure. Reading the threads on VEB, it seems like they might have some trouble with the impending free agency of Albert Pujols in a few years. The general consensus there, is that if they sign Holliday, they won’t be able to sign Pujols. If that’s the case, he’s walking at the end of the season.
3. Meanwhile, up until about a week before the all-star break, the Reds seem to have a chance…they are floundering and desperately in need of a breath of fresh air. Trading for Holliday would have done that for them. Now flash forward to today. The season is basically over, just like it always is this time of year. It stinks like a rotten fish left out in the sun. Even if Walt had pulled off the trade today instead of the Cardinals, how wide do you think his shoulders are? Could he carry the offense and defense? Could he pitch?
Absolutely not, which makes acquiring him that much more of a bad idea. This time of year has been hard for Reds fans for the last decade, but with some smart deals and some discretion on some others, this team finally has the talent in place to be in the Cardinals position next year.
4. My wife (a Cardinals fan) summed it up perfectly: "The team always gets to the brink, but never commits." I hate them for not making the Holliday trade, the De Rosa trade, or the Sabathia trade last year, or the Rolen trade from Philly a few years back, or any one of a dozen other trades that they COULD have made to get us over the hump and didn’t.
Let’s face it. No one player turns the Reds into a playoff team, not this year or last. They made a run in ‘06, but the team didn’t respond like they were supposed to. Them’s the breaks. Just making a big move doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Say the Reds trade the entire farm for Halladay and Holliday this year. If you’re sure that’s going to get you to the World Series, do it, but if not, your organization is shot for years to come. In a small market like ours, you have to wait for your best chance and take it. 2009 isn’t that chance. Time to face facts and start getting excited about 2010.
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
I respectfully submit
that you might have missed my point(s).
First of all, Holliday is really only a catalyst for my rant, which I have had sitting in my gut for a few years now.
I do not feel that this management team, nor any of the ones after Schott (not that she was any great shakes for any number of other reasons) is committed to doing anything other than breaking even first. Breaking even first in the sports world does not lead to winning. We can see that by the number of times that “now its time for the fans to show their commitment” gets lobbed out of the owner’s box.
The problem with the BEF philosophy is that the team will never be good enough to attract the levels of interest that generate sustainably higher revenues for the club. So then the management pulls in its financial horns, and we see that the best we can do on the free agent market is CoPat or TVirus (as just one set of numerous examples).
What is needed is what I might call the BEE philosophy, or Break Even Eventually. Make the committment to bold action, increase the payrolls to get the caliber of players in here that can make an actual difference, while spending the money on scouting to make sure that those are the players who can sustain the success and marketing the club. Then the fans can get interested in a winning club, start coming to the ballpark more regularly, and then you can eventually get a fanbase like the Cardinals, who put 35-40k in the stadium on a weeknight.
But back to Holliday for a minute:
Do you honestly believe that putting Matt Holliday in LF solves enough of the Reds problems to get them out of 4th place and to the top of the NL Central? A division with the likes of Pujols, Fielder, and Lee? Even if the Reds got Holliday, Willy Taveras still starts and bats leadoff everyday. Alex Gimpzalez is still the shortstop. There’s still big question marks in the rotation with Volquez hurt, Bailey and Cueto not producing lately, and Bronson and Harang lacking consistency. Jay Bruce is still out of the lineup until September, and that’s if he makes it back.
Good points. Do I think that the rental of Matt Holliday would be enough to overcome all of that? Probably not, but the message it sends to the players and fans is an important one. The better question is if I think that a full season of Matt Holliday in LF might be enough to overcome whatever problems might have cropped up this season. The answer is I’m not sure, but I would have felt a whole lot better about this club’s chances with him there than with what we eventually came up with. And with him now in STL, its kind of a double loss for us…not only is he not playing for us, he is now playing against us…just like Sabathia, and Rolen, and the list goes on and on and on.
I know there are folks on here that say that they might have trouble signing Pujols if they sign Holliday, but I don’t believe that for a second. Albert is the best player in the game, an icon in Saint Louis, and a marketing dream come true (how about that SI cover story earlier this year?). At this point, them letting Albert go would be on par with letting Stan Musial go in the prime of his career, and you are deluding yourself if you think they’d let that happen.
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Jul 25, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I picked this team to finish 4th at the beginning of the season.
Now i remember why.
I guess Walt must be thinking to trade Arroyo while he’s hot in hope of getting a sub league average guy and and couple of suspects. We don;t need either…we sure, as the good Officer so gently put it, should have committed to winning and traded for a real productive talented player like DeRosa or Holliday. But no…now these idiots will try to cover their asses by trading away the one effective SP (in terms of eating innings and W/L) that the team has.
My God I really do believe that Walt and Dusty and over the hill and therefore a bit delusional. E.G. just look at Copat last year and T-Virus this year…then sprinkle that shit dust over the entire team and presto!!! 4th place looks like a lock because as josh says –
well, at least we’re not pirates fan(s)
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
I think with Bronson
It’ll be a combo of salary relief and prospects. I’m thinking something along the lines of us picking up the rest of this years salary and getting 2 decent prospects back. I’m ok with that if it happens like that.
So I’m going to Hawaii tomorrow and won’t be back until next Sunday. Other than the occasional mobile post I won’t be around much, so someone keep trying to convince timb that Stubbs isn’t a bum.
When I get back I expect bronson and a reliever to be traded and the Reds to be 11 under .500. Have a good week on the mainland bitches!!
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 24, 2009 11:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Have a nice trip. But be forewarned, if I were the GM, Stubbs would starting everyday in center right now.
You need to protect the Heiseys, Woods, and Fraziers from my skeptimism
Heisey is kicking Stubbs' ass in AAA right now
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
The Syracuse announcers
kept calling him “Heezy.”
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
That's because they are trying to be hip
Jay Hova and C-Heezy
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
that's how i say it, even though i know its incorrect
i like to call him “Nice N’ Easy Chris Heezy”
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 25, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Timb is Tim Tebow by the way
tHom spent a few minutes with him and it changed his life.
by Brian B on Jul 25, 2009 12:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well
The Bats fared better tonight than the Reds. Game wasn’t rained out. Amazingly, there was hardly any rain at all during the game. Game was tied to the 7th, when my husband Wankston hit a 2-RBI single, plating Stubbs and Bolivar.
It looked like the Chiefs might rally in the ninth. Then I remembered their CFer was coming to the plate.
Bats win. :-)
Drew Stubbs was the Taco Bell K-man of the night. He struck out in his last at-bat, thereby providing free tacos for everyone in the stands. Feeding the hungry! What a guy. Much nicer than that BP guy.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
That's a nice tribute on the day the Taco Bell chi- . . . chiuaw- . . . dog died.
by Brian B on Jul 24, 2009 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Any chance they wise up
And try something completely unique? teams like the Giants and Diamondbacks have guys like Matt Cain and Dan Haren who they should never trade, unless they are swept off their feet. How about crossing the streams and offering Harang AND Arroyo, plus offer to pay one of their salaries, for either Cain or Haren.
Do you think Arizona or San Francisco would go for that? You’d basically be overpaying for a young sure-thing ace for one year because of the money you’re throwing the other way. But you’re getting a young stud ace who will be stunned by the fact that his new employer is so committed to him.
I may be drunk, but I think San Francisco would do that. They’ve got rotation issues despite the cy young pedigree. Or they can spin off one of the two if Randy comes back healthy.
Arizona would be a tougher sell. They can’t get wins for Haren when he hold the other team scoreless for 8 innings. It would b Harang’s second worst nightmare (after staying with the Dunn-less Reds).
What do you think about this or similar shocking offers (like Weathers AND Rhodes together for a near-top prospect on a contending team; or packaging Weathers and Harang together . . . you name it)?
You usually just see the one one guy traded for average prospects be aide that’s what teams are comfortable doing. They wouldn’t be more inclined just because you add another player. But if you off the second player for free by paying his salary, I think they’d listen to that.
by Brian B on Jul 24, 2009 11:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I've been thinking about something like this myself.
I would have no problem with this. In fact, if the the Halladay rumor is accurate (I doubt it), I was thinking it probably involved some combination of Harang and Arroyo with someone like a Weathers and a top prospect — Frazier maybe?
If the Reds have a shot a Haren or a Cain, I don’t mind giving up a starter or two or two bullpen guys and a high-end prospect.
I don’t see it happening though. So I stopped thinking about it.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 25, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
This wouldn't be too bad of rotation for 2010 actually:
1. Haren
2/3. Cueto
3/2. Volquez
4. Bailey
5. Owings
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 25, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
SF has much bigger offensive issues
They are 2nd to last in the NL in R/G – just behind the Reds. The lead the Majors in ERA. I can’t see them trading for pitching.
The Diamondbacks are out of it. No way they make a deal like that.
Otherwise, I think it’s an interesting way to think about the problem. I’m not sure if a deal like that would ever actually happen though.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Did anyone know that Wes Helms is Tommy Helms' nephew?
Vin Scully just said so. Vin was also just talking about how someone one the Marlins swings really hard, “like Laynce Nix of the Reds, he has a mighty swing.”
I think that’s what makes Vin Scully so much better than anyone else. He can state the absolute truth without making it sound like he’s criticizing anyone.
by Brian B on Jul 24, 2009 11:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
some guys have all the luck
Buehrle definitely had a good draw of umps
Some umpires can work their entire careers and never find themselves behind the plate for a no-hitter. Eric Cooper has been the plate umpire for three of them, including two by White Sox left-hander Mark Buehrle, who pitched a perfect game Thursday against the Tampa Bay Rays.
‘’After the game, we certainly talked about this being the second one with Buehrle,’’ Cooper said. ‘’I thought about it more then than when I was actually working.’’
How’s this for strange? Cooper has been behind the plate for each of Buehrle’s last three shutouts — the perfect game Thursday, the no-hitter April 18, 2007, at U.S. Cellular Field against the Texas Rangers and a 6-0 victory against the Los Angeles Dodgers on June 17, 2005, at the Cell.
Cooper, 38, also was behind the plate for Boston Red Sox right-hander Hideo Nomo’s no-hitter against the Baltimore Orioles on April 6, 2001.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Big ass strike zone.
In other words, if Coop’s behind the plate your ass better be swangin’
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 25, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Our offense today...
came from Taveras and Harang…how sad is that?
in a column i read…
-“One scout familiar with the Reds said they ‘are listening on about everyone.’”
If that doesn’t show desperateness I don’t know what does.
How much longer til Dusty's gone?
by in_Votto_We_Trust on Jul 25, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions
I think that shows smarts
Why shouldn’t they listen about everyone. What they do know is entering next season with the current roster is not good enough, that no impact players can be expected from the minors (with a nod to others, there may be a regular to add to CF or a kid fighting for left field, and while those parts would be nice, their won’t be a strong impact), but they have a core of younger/prime players under reasonable contracts to build around. Walt better be looking for something, in my opinion the bigger the better.
Just looked at the standings
seven out?! We’re only 1.5 games out of last. Not too long ago we were only 1.5 out of first! It is a bitter pill to swallow. It would take a strong run to catch up now especially with Holliday juicing the Cardinals lineup.
it's a bitter pill
but also a very familiar one as well.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
the big question is not are the Reds going to better the team..
Its will the Pirates improve their lot enough to push the Reds into last place.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
That is a terrible thought
Let’s just hope it doesn’t come to that. On another note, how did the Astros improve so much? We swept them!
I just read a mo that the Nationals want to trade Adam Dunn
His RBI look pretty good right now. I think we should get him back!
But he doesn't hustle or wear his socks the right way...
"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"
Of course Adam Dunn would be such an assett to the Reds
Therefore he will never be considered ever to a part of the Reds again.
Proven and consistent power combined with a decent pitching staff and a functional manager AND Votto,Bruce, BP, Hanigan EdE
would really be interesting
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George Carlin
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