Reminder on the proper use of FanPosts
The FanPosts are getting sloppy lately, and we're going to start cracking down on them. From here on out, this will be our new policy:
If one of the moderators deems a FanPost to be non-substantive, one of two things will happen:
- If the post is abusive, offensive, or spam, it will be deleted immediately.
- If the post is simply underdeveloped, we will give you the opportunity to add more substance to it. Comments on the FanPost will be closed and the author of the post will have 24 hours to actually make the post substantive. If that happens, the comments will be re-opened. If not, the post will be deleted.
So, If you are frustrated about the Reds, add a real plan about what to do. If you are suggesting who to trade, add some thoughts on who we might acquire or some real evidence as to why so-and-so should be traded. That is to say, give us a reason to care about what you are writing. We don't give a crap that you are frustrated. We're all frustrated. If you want us to care, give us some real ideas to care about. If you want to just tell the world that you are frustrated with the team, do it in the comments like everyone else. There are always at least one or two open, active threads on the site where you can post your frustrations. Do it there. People read those and they will respond. Trust me.
As a reminder, after the jump I've included a few points of interest on how to make your FanPost interesting and readable. Please read them and use them when writing FanPosts in the future.
FanPosts are just like front page stories, except they're written by you, guy or gal with a computer who may or may not have friends outside of the blog. Select FanPosts, those deemed worthy by the crack editorial team at Red Reporter, will find their way to the front page.
What makes a good FanPost?
- Make it Substantial -- When I say substantial, I don't mean it has to be dissertation or manifesto. But if you see the dreaded 75 word warning, it's either time to put some more thought into your FanPost or trash it all together. Because if you can't fill up 75 words on a topic, what you have is not a FanPost; it's a comment, or maybe a FanShot.
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Make it Relevant -- Your FanPost should relate to the Reds or baseball in some way. If you want to do nothing more than post a link to your site, you're probably a spammer, and should expect your FanPost to be swiftly removed. If all you want to do is post a link, try a FanShot.
I don't want to completely discourage Off-Topic FanPosting. Some of our most commented FanPosts have been the regular SIS columns that obc2 has posted. But if you're new and you haven't made a FanPost or comment before, your FanPost on Chris Henry probably isn't going to be received very well.
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Make it Timely -- If the link you're posting is a day or two old, chances are it's been posted once or twice before either in the Reposter, the comments or FanShots. Check to see if it's been posted before. Use our powerful search function.
If you do have some breaking news, post away. Even though we try, there's no way we can be the first to hear/read/see every piece of breaking Red Reporter news. That's where you can help.
- Make it Coherent -- I've been known to make more than the occasional grammatical mistake, and I'm more than capable of leaving a word out here or there. But I think my writing is usually readable. Why?
- I use proper spelling (most of the time)-- You're not sending a text message. There's no need 4 U 2 use "time saving" abbreviations which only lessen the value of your post. It's like writing a position paper in crayon.
- I use punctuation -- You wouldn't stand up and attempt to give a speech in one breath, and you shouldn't try to make your FanPost one big sentence that never ends.
- I use multiple paragraphs -- There is something about reading text on the internet that makes reading a large block of text unpleasant and occasionally difficult. The ENTER key can be your friend.
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Use Proper Formatting -- You'd be amazed how much better your piece will be received if it's formatted properly. Proper formatting is like a killer profile pic on a dating site.
I'm not likely to read your profile if you're an ugly hag. Likewise, if I'm greeted by a wall of text in your FanPost, I'm probably not going to make it all the way through. Break it up. Make it more than one paragraph. Use the 'B' and 'I' buttons for bold and italic text, respectively.
The tech team at SB*Nation has built a powerful WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editor, get to know it. Caress it. Love it.. However, if that's not your cup of tea but you know how to format using Microsoft word, you can make a perfectly formatted FanPost here at Red Reporter.
- Start by opening Word.
- Write your post completely in Word, making all your formatting adjustments there.
- Highlight and Copy your work.
- Click New FanPost
- Click the "Paste From Word" icon (upper right icon in the WYSIWYG editor)
- Paste your content into the dialog box.
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Give it a Descriptive Headline -- "Red Reporter Poll" may, in fact, be what you are posting, but it doesn't exactly inform us what the topic is about. Your headline should be informative, above all else, with bonus points for creativity.
Examples:
Poor Headline: Red Reporter Poll
Good Headline: Why Adam Dunn is the devil?Poor Headline: Adam Dunn
Good Headline: Fay: Adam Dunn is the devilPoor Headline: What Do You Guys Think of This?
Good Headline: Adam Dunn has dinner with the devil when he eats alone
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Blog Police!!!!
911… or better yet the 9/11 of blogdom
Posts usually take care of themselves. If they’re boring, underdeveloped or crass, they get little or no traction.
Some of the most interesting commentaries have come via some of the most ridiculous and banal posts. Just sayin’, If it ain’t broke why fix it?
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
I'm hearing from enough people
that it’s breaking.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
What about my suggestion re: no newbie Fanposts?
Not feasible, or just a bad suggestion? IMO it would take care of a good portion of the useless Fanposts.
I can keep a new user from posting or commenting for a certain number of days, if I choose
but the only FanPost that was written by someone who had signed up with SBN within a week of their FanPost was griffey24’s FanPost. I don’t see sign up and post being a real problem so far.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
There was someone earlier this year who signed up and posted detailed game summaries as Fanposts
Those were more out of place rather than problematic, though. Your general point stands.
Thank you.
Can we also add some rule about not being a dick when people point out that you expand your FanPost? Because in reading the comments in the latest one, that was really pissing me off.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Adam Dunn is the devil?
Are you sure the devils isn’t Ben Roethlisberger
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
A few thoughts on this - maybe a differing perspective
I agree that short fanposts that don’t give any thought to a subject matter are frustrating. Yes, they stink of comments that follow the Fay’s stories or ESPN blogs. However, the “Recommend” feature we can use to promote those fanposts that are well thought-out. Really, this site doesn’t get the quantity of fanpost spam that other sites get.
Instead of turning those posts into arguments or namecalling, if no one responds to the posts, the message will be sent. I remember a few of my first fanposts were hit or miss whether they got replies, so I think out a subject in more depth before posting.
I’d love for the RedReporter community to continue to expand and would hate for a snarky response to a short fanpost to drive away people that may be good future contributers… if only we could send them to the minors to develop!
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
Yep, your comments more clearly delineate my attempted communication earlier int his post.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
Part of the intended outcome of this plan is to hopefully prevent the snarky responses as well
I want to give new people a chance to contribute, which is why we aren’t going to just delete the posts outright. However, rather than letting the comments devolve immediately into snark, I’d rather give the author a chance to put something of substance together. Hopefully that way we’ll having interesting conversations instead of attempts at being the person to have the funniest joke about how much the fanpost sucks.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
if the comments don't quickly devolve into snark,
then how do we keep up the cliquish quality of the community?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
um, inside jokes
racist inside jokes.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
racist
definitely racist.
You mean you were blowing Chinamen in the bleachers.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
The Japanese are "sandal wearing goldfish tenders"
by Brendanukkah on Jul 21, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature
Asian-American, please.
by Colin Auscapee on Jul 21, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, yeah?
What if they’re not American?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Asian-Asian?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 21, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
God, I wish I had my camera.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
that's always the "ideal solution"
Ignore them, and they’ll get the message.
The problem is that the people who most need to get the message usually don’t. And it’s unreasonable to expect people to just ignore outright trolls. Somebody is always going to respond, and it will blow up from there.
I’ll also add that lack of comments doesn’t necessarily mean the post is bad. Sometimes people enjoy the post, but just don’t have anything to say about it. In particular, a very well-written analytical post may leave readers feeling they are unqualified to comment on it, even if they found it very worthwhile.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
that's what I always tell myself
My genius is just too much for others to comprehend.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Yeah, that's it. Not the way you smell. DEFINITELY not the way you smell.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Since this wouldn't make a good Fanpost...
Sorry, this isn’t (1) insightful, (2) timely, or (3) of general interest, so I’ll add it as a comment to an open thread.
What happened to you guys during the rain delay? I was lagging a little bit, and suddently you all were gone. I walked through the Machine Room and Bar Louie, but didn’t see anyone.
Or should I use that quarter to buy a clue?
Often wrong, never uncertain.
Ash and I stayed. As did Excalibr8 and his lady friend. Everyone else pissed off.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh.
I know I just met you guys, but I’m usually pretty good at picking faces out of the crowd. Which bar were you at?
Often wrong, never uncertain.
we went to the Machine Room after the game got delayed
and then finished the night at Bar Louie. i dont know how you missed us, but it certainly had nothing to do with you being obnoxious and ugly.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 21, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I resent that!
I’m obnoxiously sarcastic, not obnoxious (unfortunately, the quiz that told me that has been removed).
Often wrong, never uncertain.
oh ok
my bad. so missing you at the bar had nothing to do with your obnoxious sarcasm or your discomforting appearance. must have just missed you i guess.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 21, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No, sorry, we stayed through the rain delay, in the Machine Room, then found seats.
We actually watched the final two innings of that suckfest.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 21, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I went, slogging 38 miles in the rain cause no one wopuld cash my check
Had Iknown you were looking for us sid, I would have hung around a got yu to cash my $15 check.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
When is the Fanpost etiquette final exam?
I’ll try to study up so I don’t bomb on my essay.
Can I send in a rough draft first? I’ve been known to get sloppy with my derisive, derogatory remarks aimed at the 2nd floor owners boxes in times past. I’d appreciate the ability to vent.
Oh, I guess this is why there aren’t any fanposts ever posted anymore. Nobody has the patience to be both spontaneously angry and use correct paragraph structure.
Next thing I know, I’ll be paying tuition and will have to buy a $100 book on blogging that I can only sell back for $22. Sheesh.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 21, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
Spontanteous Fanposts
I’m pretty sure the objective is to get you to post your spontaneous anger to FanShots, where it will never be seen nor heard by anyone.
by Brian B on Jul 21, 2009 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't believe in FanShots
yeah, put them there where I will never see them!
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
by JJ on Jul 21, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don't mind the venting
what I don’t like is the 75 words stuck in a FanPost that says exactly the same thing that is being said in the comments. Too often FanPosts are used as a featured comment by someone rather than introducing a new argument or topic of interest, which is the intention of them. If you don’t feel like putting any real thought process behind what you want to say, put it in a comment.
As for the paragraph structure stuff, that’s all just suggestions. If you don’t want to use that stuff well, fine. Just don’t be surprised if no one reads what you write since it ends up being laborious.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
hey man
buybacks for textbooks usually run 40%. do you go into Wal-Mart and complain when they dont buy back the leafblower you only used for a few months? no! because Wal-Mart doesnt even buyback leafblowers! we are doing you a favor man buying back your book and it’d be nice if you appreciated it!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 21, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
areyou serious, Charlie?
Defending book buy backs? Your cojones are remarkable. Next you can defend child molesters or the honor of politicians. If you can manage to pull that off, you have to defend Dusty’s line-ups! That the Ninth Circle of Unpopular Hell.
Godspeed on your quest
22% would've been great to get on average!
There were a number of semesters where I wouldn’t get $75 for $500 worth of books at the bookstore – selling them online was much more profitable. Then, they started “customizing” textbooks by taking out a few pages here or there so we couldn’t sell them to other universities. Complete garbage.
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
by JJ on Jul 21, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
you can place the blame squarely on the book publishers for each and every one of your woes
we at your local bookstore had the idea of starting the book buyback thing to 1) generate a used book market and in turn, 2) help you save money. so in response they starting jacking up the prices, publishing new editions ever 2-3 years, and making a dozen customized versions. we who buy them back are the good guys here. we dont have to give you anything for your books. you bought them and you can keep them, just like everything else you buy. we’re just trying to help. we just get all the grief because we are the ones you can yell at in person. it sucks.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 21, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So, when the college bookstore when I was an undergrad (pre-Internet)
bought a book back from me at 9 dollars and sold it as used for $65, they were being nice? Why is that? They certainly didn’t make that sort of profit off the original book they purchased wholesale.
When the law school now buy a book from me for 30 bucks and sells it for $85 that 50 dollar profit is bubkus?
Seems like everyone in this little game benefits to me, i.e. you shouldn’t get yelled at, but there’s a huge profit motive to be made. I might get to buy a cheaper book, the bookstore gets a much higher percentage of profit than when they first purchased the book.
The vile people are the publishers. I have a friend who wrote a law school textbook and swears he couldn’t afford to buy the damn thing. Cost a quarter a page to buy and they paid him less than a nickel a page to write it. The publisher says it’s all supply and demand.
Looks like everybody has an excuse, except the student.
Which again is not an indictment of you, Charlie. In fact, if you want to jump over the interim and just descend to the Ninth Circle of Unpopular Hell and start defending Dusty, I can provided dispensation…
share textbooks
One of my friends used to borrow textbooks from classmates and just photocopy the pages he needed. Most courses don’t use every chapter in the textbook. But he said he could usually photocopy every page in the textbook for less than buying the book cost, if he wanted to.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
do you wanna know how many times my bookstore has ever turned a profit?
even after re-selling all those books we buyback at a higher price? never. and we never will. the university eats about 17% right off the top. we would have to re-buy and re-sell that book you sold us about 6 times in order to cover the operating costs of the whole gambit. we only stay open because we have 800 stores across the country in which to make up the difference.
of course, the whole company has to be making some kind of profit. i wouldnt have a job otherwise. but in the whole satanic mess that is education the bookstore is probably the least evil. yell at your dean and McGraw Hill first.
fortunately, the govt is stepping up efforts to protect students’ rights. next year universities will be required to disclose all book information before the student signs up for the class so they can know the total cost, and find it online if possible.
i was a student myself and i was just as angry at the bookstore for getting ripped off at buybacks as anyone else. but now that im on the other side of counter, it really sucks to be the face of and yet the least culpable for the evils of the textbook industry.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i just am bitter about the bookstore
because it is university run. Universities are money factories.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jul 21, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Speier is a good coach
He spends the entire game with his foot on the top step of the dugout. He’s a baseball guy.
/failed FanPost
by Brian B on Jul 21, 2009 2:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Terrific start for a broad discussion Brian,
And Speier is also the lonliest man in baseball…just look at that face..
Any attempt to legislate content, quality of content and appropriateness strikes me as anti RR. Like trying to turn ‘Duck Soup’ in Will Ferrell’s ‘Lost World’….
But being a good Republican I will do my best to adhere to the new policies and proceedures…what’s that? Oh yea I did quit the Republican Party this year in favor of the newly formed NO PARTY UNLESS ITS A PARTYING PARTY PARTY…I’m sure a slight correct is needed and al will work out in the end.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
I once had so much respect for you
then i read the 3rd paragraph. Oh, Madville, WHY hath thou forsaken me
WhaaaaaChuTalkin' 'bout timb?
It is my job job as the oldest RR poster to bitch and whine about anything slightly reeking of change (my Republican past) AND to decry anthing that appears to be too conventional and organized to be facist.
Yes I was an old old old time Republican back in the day when it was all about small business, the little guy and independence from big government. But alas that party was hi-jacked and co-opted by the religious right, the corporate big money guys and the ultra conservative rural and middle American folks who just don’t get it that our world is global in scope and small town in scale (via the inter-net). My wife is a blue blooded Democrat and a fiery liberal who has also found her way to a more moderate stance…both of us inspirired by the Ombamaian ideal of ‘working together’ but alas that is too idealistic for themoney grubbers in congress…but I digress and over simplify..
I have not forsaken anyone except George Bush Jr. and possibly Dick Pole.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
Nor me.
You scared me there for a minute. Not to get too political, but does it matter any more. The amount of money these jackasses pour into trough means no one will listen to me anyway (and that doesn’t include the 50% of them who were in the bag because they are partisan idiots). What we need in this country are publicly financed elections. Then, we can call bribery bribery and not campaign contributions.
/rant
I would have loved you anyway, much like I love my Dad, despite his Rush Limbaugf fandom.
Which is not to say I see you as a dad, more like an older brother
ugly
/’than’d
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 21, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just like I like 'em
Soulless eyes are HAWT.
"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"
Yeah, but the comments in the crap fanposts are so much more fun than the ones in the "substantial" "fanposts"
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
i didn't have access to the internet for much of the day, and i'm glad because it helped me avoid this thread
This blog has been going downhill for some time. One of the main reasons is the overpolicing. It seems that someone is always being scolded.
I think others have insinuated it but would not come out and say it, but threads like this are going to wind up driving people away. Maybe the blog is (and needs to) move in a new direction, but I don’t like the one it’s headed in.
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
Traffic has doubled from what we were getting last season
“Policing” like this is an attempt to try to keep the same level of discourse that we’ve always had on this site. Believe me, I don’t want to do it. I don’t find it particularly fun. But I also don’t like having to deal with people bitching about pointless threads and constant rantings.
If you’ve got a better way to maintain the balance, I’d love to hear it. This isn’t the same blog it was 2 years ago, but I’m trying my hardest not to lose what makes it special. It should be noted that I’ve also received complaints from people who think I take too long to ban someone or think I let certain activities go on too long. Not everybody’s going to be happy, that’s especially true when we have so many more readers than we used to.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I think scolding the entire blog was unnecessary.
Just delete the offensive fanpost and move on…
I really don’t want to go any further on this, but it’s clear that Red Reporter is losing what made it special.
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
I'm not sure how I'm scolding the entire blog.
And the reason I don’t want to just delete the post is because I want to encourage new people to actually put some thought into what they say in a FanPost. Deleting it just makes us look cliquish. Maybe that’s what you miss.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I think it's just as good as it was 2 years ago
there’s some interesting discussion going on. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a reason to complain.
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
by JJ on Jul 22, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions

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