Red Reposter - 7/17/09
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2009 10:54 AM EDT
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It doesnt look like Chris Dickerson's back spasms are too big a deal
Dusty thinks he'll be fine to play today. He saw a chiropractor yesterday after walking around the clubhouse "like Fred Sanford", as Baker put it. -
Joey Votto's home run last night was estimated at 471 feet
which is good for 12th all time at GABP. He was this close to winning the truck for a lucky fan. It was pretty wicked bad. If you didnt see it, MLB.com has you covered. -
Injury updates from the Fay
Alex Gonzalez hit and threw yesterday for the first time since having surgery to remove bone chips from his right elbow. "He must have good blood because he’s a fast healer," Baker said. I'm sure that is exactly what Gonzo thinks after last year. As for Edinson Volquez, he will throw long-toss on Saturday and throw from the mound on Monday. If all goes well there, he'll be on schedule to return the beginning of August. -
Chris Heisey and Matt Klinker were honored by MiLB
Heisey won player of the week honors in the International League (AAA) and Klinker won pitcher of the week honors in the Southern League (AA). Both have only recently been promoted to their respective leagues, so it's really good to see them both playing so well so quickly. -
Diamond Hoggers has a recent photo of Jay Bruce
Fair Warning: it's heart-breaking. -
FanGraphs tries to explain how Julio Lugo has failed in Boston
He was a decent shortstop when they signed him, but he's been a dramatic failure in his 2.5 seasons there (it absolutely kills me, because if the Reds had flushed that kind of money (4 years, $36 mil) away it would cripple the franchise for years). The Red Sox appear willing to eat what's left on his contract in order to clear up a roster spot. Even if he is virtually free, I dont know if I want anything to do with him. ZiPS thinks he'll be around league-average the rest of the way as a hitter, but his glove skills have declined such that I doubt it would be justifiable. But I dont know, maybe he's just not comfortable in Boston facing AL East pitching and a move to Cincy could be a good thing for him. I cant believe I'm even entertaining this idea though. Yeesh, you know things are bad when you momentarily contemplate the idea of adding Julio Lugo... -
Jeff at Redlegs Rundown is ready to give up
He's ready to trade Harang and Arroyo, dump the roster fodder and let the young guys play. I can understand the frustration, but I would keep Harang. The rest I'm fine with. -
Ted Keith at SI has his weekly power rankings
and the Reds have fallen to #22. He says Volquez is the key to the team's second half. - Just a few numbers to throw at you here: Brandon Phillips has been just a touch short of awesome this year. Not quite as good as his '07, but pretty close. He's sporting a respectable .347 wOBA and has been worth half a win already with his glove, making him worth 2.3 WAR so far this year. That is good for 3rd among NL 2nd basemen just behind the lucky Freddy Sanchez and miles behind the godly Chase Utley. Much of this can be attributed to his greatly increased plate discipline. His BB rate is 3.5% above his career average and his K rate is 5.5% below. Those are incredible improvements. I dont think these are sustainable levels for him, but these are two areas where I felt he most needed to improve and he has. BP is a top-tier 2nd baseman.
As for Joey Votto, he's lucky he hasnt been put on trial for witchcraft. Here is his slash line - .353/.432/.604. That is an OPS of 1.036 and a wOBA of .439 (good for 4th in the Majors if he had enough ABs to be eligible).
Everyone else has been awful.
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I wonder
if anyone in the Reds organization recognizes what Phillips is doing this year and is encouraging it. I could see Dusty thinking “Brandon is doing well, if we can just get him to be a bit more aggresive and get that batting average up a bit”
I’m with Jeff. We need to trade Arroyo (probably not Harang), some of the bullpen guys, get rid of Taveras any way possible, and the lineup for the rest of the year needs to be:
1. Dickerson RF
2. Hanigan C
3. Votto 1B
4. Phillips 2B (he’s earned it)
5. Encarnacion 3B
6. Nix/Gomes LF
7. Stubbs CF
8. Janish/Valaika SS (I know Valaika has struggled at AAA, but he’s showing signs lately and if you think he’s the guy next year, give him a shot now)
If Heisey continues to dominate AAA, bring him up in September and put him in LF
I seriously doubt that lineup would lose many more games than the crap Dusty’s been rolling out there, and it would be infinitely more interesting.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jul 17, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
looks good...
I would add that Micah bats 7th when he pitches. That is how I do it in MLB 09 the Show.
by Snake the Jake on Jul 17, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the lineup.
What a difference it makes when you aren’t saddled by outs hitting first and second, right in front of Votto.
by Brian B on Jul 17, 2009 2:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Slyde would have found a way to used the x-axis
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
I love wearing sandals over socks
I guess I’m out.
Also, I hate smiling.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
Correction:
Slyde would have found a way to used [sic] the x-axis implement the z-axis
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
po-ly-lo-quent a. [Poly- + L. loquens, p. pr. of logui to speak.]
never shuts the fuck up
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Jul 17, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been really impressed with how Klinker's adjusted to AA
And he’s definitely deserving of the Pitcher of the Week award.
Also, I think Carolina pitching coach Rigo Beltran deserves some credit for the job he’s doing down there. Just about everybody is pitching well for the Mudcats this season. There’s been a good mix of guys there, from prospects like Travis Wood, Zach Stewart, Dallas Buck, James Avery, and Jordan Smith, to guys who got promoted like Klinker, Alex Smit, and Logan Ondrusek, and even non-prospects like Camilo Vazquez, Tom Cochran, and Lee Tabor, and all of them have pitched extremely well. The latter three are in the rotation right now because of injuries and have stepped in and provided quality starts almost every night. Maybe Rigo could be in line to take Pole’s job soon?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
I wonder if Dick Pole deserves any credit for the improvements that Cueto has made this year
We focus a lot on how Bailey seemingly had to go outside the organization to get better, but maybe Pole has helped Cueto? Or are we giving all of that credit to Mario Soto?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Duh. Here at Red Reporter we know that all failures beling to the coaching staff
Meanwhile, Nick Masset’s rise from throw in in consecutive trades to bullpen asset is just luck
or relievers being predictably unpredictable
remember Hot Rod Lincoln’s first half last season?
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Jul 17, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see some analysis on Cueto
I think some of the credit goes to a better defense behind him. The decreased walk (and K) rate is all him, though. Per Fangraphs his fastball is a little slower this year, but he seems to be leaving less them up in my mind.
Did Cueto's last three or four starts not happen?
I thought we moved on to blaming the coaching staff for ruining cueto, in the mold of ruining volquez, and ruining bailey, and . . .
by Brian B on Jul 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The enviroment
and Family Guy, and Firefly, and Hillary Clinton, and Nintendo, and travel to the moon, and the job market, and vampire movies
"He must have good blood because he’s a fast healer," Baker said.
V may give you wild hallucinations and heal you quickly. But it’s not worth the trouble of fucking with angry vampires to get.
Alex Gonzalez=Lafayette Reynolds
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 17, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Hey yo
why does one drop of V make amy and jason go crazy, but others can drink gallons of blood from vampire wrists and not have the hallucinations and such?
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
the fuck you nerds talking about?
by Brian B on Jul 17, 2009 3:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
true blood
just started watching season 1. it’s worth watching just for the main character’s/hot chick’s frequent masturbation scenes.
by Snake the Jake on Jul 17, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
that’s gay.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I don't think so...
Sookie had never had V at all when she was healed by it
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
She is special but I refuse to buy that as an explanation
Lafayette drank from and infinitely more powerful vampire than Jason. While he did get energy after drinking a lot of blood, he didn’t exhibit the same kind of side effects that jason and amy did from just a drop of blood.
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
some of that show is supposed to take place in the parish where I grew up
although the accents in the one episode I saw are cartoonish south Georgia.
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Jul 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Lafayette was all-parish
Maybe we should sign him. He couldn’t be any worse than T-Virus.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 17, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorta with Jeff
I’d move Bronson and Aaron (But keep Jen Harang). But bringing up the youngsters this early doesn’t help them or the big team. As much as I like Todd F. he prolly would get better by continued PT at AAA.
I’d like to see if there is any market for Hernandez. He’s pretty decent and he and Harang with a prospect or two could possibly reel in a JoHn Mayberry Jr. and a couple of pitching prospects.
As far a Gonzo goes I’d hang on to him through this season and see how Frazier and Sutton pan out.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
yeah, probably.
i think Hernandez looks like a nice pickup for a RH bat off the bench, but not too many teams trade for catchers at the deadline. i’d still like to move him
Not Awful
It wasnt an awful game last night. The Reds are just going to be in a lot of pain while Bruce and Volquez are hurt.
Pitch hit by Fielder was a good pitchers pitch, he just muscled it out. And walks will always kill you as evidenced by the pile on when they pulled Bailey. All in all he had an ok game I thought.
The Reds still have a shot this year I think, but theyve got to turn it around pretty quickly. I would move Harang and Arroyo as well for prospects if possible. I saw Harang pitch in Milwaukee earlier in the year and he was just awful.
Here’s a couple of questions…does Dusty get fired if they finish below .500? Should he? And who would you rather have, Joey Votto ro Prince Fielder?
General question
Do people want to trade Arroyo because of the potential return or because we have someone better to take place? I can’t see any team wanting to acquire him unless we’re eating a lot of money or we’re swapping bad contracts.
12 mil isn't that much for a reliable innings eater
That said, it would probably either be salary relief with little return or a legit prospect back but we eat part of the salary.
I’d be totally willing to get not much back if the team was willing to take his entire remaining salary.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
i would trade Arroyo only to get out from under the contract
but unless he throws a couple of gems in the next week im not sure that is possible. he’s so up and down, i think he has to prove that he’s on his way back up before anyone will want him. im just fine with keeping him though.
if we fall totally out of it (i dont think we have yet, but we’re closer to the cliff than i like) the guys i want to see traded are Weathers, Rhodes, and Hernandez. everyone else i dont want to see has no trade value.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Bring up Corky, Bring up Corky
The chant for the masses grow deafening. Oh, sure, Charlie acts like trading Ramon is because Ramon is taking valuable playing time from Hannigan, but we all know the real reason: he is right looking fondly at his Corky Miller bobblehead and wishing for his return.
Shouldt Norris Hopper’s sacrifice be in vain?
oh god
the only hit Corkys ever gunna get is off a crack pipe. I just hope he doesnt knock the Bats outta first place.
Also i think that Hannigan needs to learn to pull the ball or beef up or something. With RISP, Hannigan come up short in comparison to Ramon. Yes he needs plate appearances, but Is NOW the time? We strand enough runners as it is.
Really? The RISP argument?
Hanigan has 33 PA with RISP (.192/.313/.231). Hernandez has 86 PA with RISP (.328/.458/.443). How many more hits would Hanigan have to have in 33 PA to match Hernandez’s line?
4. Add 2 singles and 2 doubles to his current results with RISP line and Hanigan’s batting .346/.438/.461 with RISP.
How many times on base would Hernandez have to add to get his OBP to .400 (still 28 ponts lower than Hanigan’s OBP)? 21.
I guarantee you that if the Reds had had 21 more base runners this year they would have more runs scored than if they had had 4 more hits with RISP.
Don’t let Dusty suck you into his faulty logic. Base runners are far more important than stats like BA with RISP, which is a nice stat but is WAY over-emphasized. The Reds problems start with a lack of base runners, which is why it seems like they are missing opportunities. It’s because those opportunities are so rare.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Thats like saying
If i had more money my wallet would be fatter, of course it would! How can I argue with that. The fact is, its called an average for a reason. Hannigan, as much as I love that Mc, is having a very lucky year. You yourself assumed he would have a flop year this year in the bio section. Now you think hes going to pan out?
I think we should all be happy with him replacing Ramon NEXT year. Let’s not get ahead of the master plan.
“Career Potential = Backup Catcher”
Where have I ever "assumed he would have a flop year"?
Those projections in the bio aren’t mine, if that’s what you are pointing to.
I’ve been firm on my stance that the catching time should be split AT LEAST 50/50 from the start of the season. I don’t believe Hanigan is an everyday catcher. I do believe he is more than a once a week catcher. And I firmly believe that thinking Hernandez is superior to Hanigan is plain wrong. Play the best players now.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
In that case
I owe you an apology.
Why does Arroyo always use Hannigan but never anyone else? Is that a personal choice by the pitcher? or is that what Baker seems to think works?
OPS Against for Arroyo with each catcher
Hanigan: 14 GS – .766 OPSA
Hernandez: 4 GS – 1.071 OPSA
Maybe Arroyo feels like Hanigan “gets” him.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I'm sure the pitcher has some input
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
if management would do something useful
with the $$ I would agree. But they’ll just give it to another worthless centerfielder
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Yeah but
He might be a nice option as a bottom of the rotation type of player, like what the Dodgers need, Yankees, Red Sox, Angels all could use a guy like him at the bottom of their rotation. Heck, the Dodgers gave up Carlos Santana, one of the best hitting and overall catching prospects in the game last year for Casey Blake.
I could see something similar coming for Arroyo. Arms are always worth more than bats.
Whether Arroyo is better than a typical AAAA starter at this point is debatable
With his carpal tunnel issues, the pre-recession contract and his declining numbers, I can’t see any team really wanting him. His K/9 (under 5) has to be one of the lowest in the league and is way too close to his walk rate. If Walt can simply dump the contract that would be a feat.
Dusty doesn't get fired.
I’d like Prince fielder at 1st and Votto in LF
But I’d definately take Votto over P:rince as he’s going to eat himself out of the league.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
3rd? where did you hear that?
Votto played LF a bit in the minors and never played 3rd. there were some rumblings that the Reds were toying with the idea of moving Yonder to 3rd, but that is even less likely.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
According to you
no one in the minors will ever amount to anything anyway, so what difference does it make? :-)
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
I suppose it's fair to do to me what I do to you?
Nonetheless, obviously minor leaguers have tons of value, especially as pitchers. My main argument with you is you imagine the system is going to produce four major league caliber position players by the end of next year and I don’t see it (nor do I see why I have to wait another two years). The reds have been lying to me for a decade about their minor leaguers and “once X gets here we’ll start spending money and be good.” All I know is the teams of the ’90’s had few homegrown players and were pretty good.
I wouldn’t want to return to that model, because it only works for two to three years, at best. At any rate, if this were the Twins, with a proven record, then I’d be more apt to believe the next crop of kids was growing to help. The Reds are not the Twins and I don’t believe them.
As for backtocali, a solid portion of major league draftees never appear for the team which drafted them. You draft the best player so she can flip them for an organizational need and, rather than have two left-handed first basemen standing around admiring each other swings in batting practice, you should damn well better hope Yonder is flipped for something else.
The only other alternative is Votto getting moved for Yonder. Personally, I like my first basemen Canadian and possibly disdainful of Alex Rodriguez
I sure hope that doesnt happen
I hate to see a team, especially one like the Reds give up prospects for anything. Even if its a LaPorta for Sabathia type deal.
Yonder has slipped a bit this year, but I think he still profiles as a pretty dang good power first baseman.
Always better to make a gradual, steady run to the top with a long term stay, than a quick ascent and then right down soon thereafter. See post 2008 Milwaukee Brewers….
you mean the Brewers who are in second place
beat the hell out of the Reds last night, and have no use for LaPorta? That Brewer team seems pretty fine. Selling out home games, increased local tv ratings, etc
And, if Doug’s plan had worked out and they had gotten to re-sign CC, they have a three game lead over the Cards right now.
I would LOVE to be the 2008 Brewers
CC
If the Brewers had actually put Sabathia’s signature on a contract this past offseason they would have become The Cincinnati Reds post Griffey contract.
The CC trade left their farm system a little thin (not that they have ever really had a good depth of pitching), but their 2nd place showing so far is an illusion. Only thing keeping them there is a less than mediocre division. And when Fielder is gone (post 10) there is a tremendous drop off in the team they throw out there.
Post-Griffey?
You blame Griffey’s below market contract on the fact the Reds under Lindner wouldn’t spend money and, when it did, it did so stupidly? God forgive me, because he is my idol, but Larkin’s extension was incredibly stupid, as was the contract for Milton. They had enough money to make moves, they just made stupid moves. Having a starter on the field every fifth day who sports a 3.00 ERA and keep the turnstiles going is worth every penny.
Don’t fall for the small market myth, Cali, this team draws people from Dayton to West Virginia, to Nashville, to Indy. Market size wise they draw from five cities in the top 60 markets in the country (Indy is 24th, Cincy is 38th, Memphis and Nashville are 40 and 43rd and Louisville is 55th.
The Reds own Indianapolis, Louisville, and Cincinnati. It’s surely bigger than the Milwaukee/Madison/Green Bay axis the Brewers live on.
Win, and they come. lose, and blame it on the star’s contract
Larkin/Lugo
Funny how it was mentioned that a contract like Lugo’s 4/$36million would cripple a franchise Iike the Reds. Well, uh, it did. 10 years ago.
by Brian B on Jul 17, 2009 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It did because they wouldn't spend
they loved talking about how they had to pay 9 million for three years, except that they did. With the deferred money, they had to pay a little over 6. It was wasted money, because he couldn’t perform to that level, NOT because it was spent. They had and still have the ability to add salary; the Lindner Reds didn’t tell you that, because he was maximizing the money he’d get after selling the team.
Carl isn’t a dummy. He saw how much money people made by buying a team, getting a city to build a stadium, and then selling. Hell, it made one guy President of the country.
Do you think that Votto will resign?
He could make big money somewhere like Boston. I think i heard something about them having some money freed up. And we all know hes worth more than 437.5k
we have him for another 4 years
so i wouldnt worry about him going to Boston anytime soon.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
let's hope
i’m not crazy about his age, plus i hear he’s atrocious in the field. and i’m bitter that we chose him over beckham. he’s got to be worth something… trade him for an arm.
Charlie, you might get your (sort of) wish
Julio Lugo’s been DFA’d.
So the Reds could get him for league minimum and not give anyone up!
They won’t do it, of course, because it might hurt Gonzo’s feelings.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
sorry, I'm an idiot
they couldn’t necessarily get him for league minimum and no prospects. They haven’t released him, just DFA so far
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
BTW
I’m going to be at the game by myself tonight. I dun know where I’ll be sitting, seeing how I always buy bleacher seats. But if you see a guy with a red shirt with a number 1 on it, black pants, white shoes, Invite me to sit with you?
Oh, this is like a match making site now, right?
You already picked out your outfit for tonight?
That’s cute.
by Brian B on Jul 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Looks like another candidate for the 60-Day DL
from the Reds:
RHP Mike Lincoln is scheduled to have cervical disc replacement surgery Monday in St. Louis by orthopedic spine
surgeon Dr. K Riew of Washington University Orthopedic…since 6/17 Lincoln has been on the 15-day disabled list
with a bulging disc in his neck…a prognosis for recovery will be made following that surgery.
I have no idea how long it takes to recover from, but it don’t sound too good. Of course we aren’t missing his craptastic 2009 relief apperances. I didn’t have a good feeling when they announced they re-signed him to a 2 year deal.
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Manuel will succeed Lincoln in every way
By the time he did get back from a 60 day DL, he would be competing with his underclassmen for HIS roster spot. We haven’t heard the last from Mike, but you will see a LOT less of him in 2010.
yikes
A friend of mine had that surgery. She’s okay now, but they warned her before she had it that it might not work, and that if it didn’t, she could end up paralyzed.
She still has some pain and stiffness in her neck, and the doctors said she will eventually need another surgery. (Apparently, that is not unusual.)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Do we have any spotters
on the highway between louisville and cincy to see if we recognize anybody. It may be the only way to find out who gets called up.
It's gotta be Sutton
Otherwise, why the wait?
When the Columbus Clippers were with the Yankees, there was someone at the airport who always knew who was being called up. But he never knew who was being sent down until it was announced, because by the time the guy was at the airport, the announcement had been made long ago.
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The Onion really kicks ass at baseball satire
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/derek_jeter_makes_easy_play
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Sutton Up, Roenicke down
I thought it would be Manuel going down…. Guess I was wrong.
TODAY’S TRANSACTIONS: Today the Reds recalled from Louisville IF Drew Sutton (#27) and optioned to Louisville RHP Josh Roenicke.
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Roenicke has been guilty of a couple mental errors
not covering 1st, backing up home, not checking runner on 2nd etc. Probably what got him sent down. I think we all know he has better stuff than Fisher or Manuel.
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BREAKING NEWS
Jay Bruce IS the Pope.
Both just HAPPEN to have a broke wrist after they game the other day.
Coincidence?
I think not.
Lineup
Taveras CF
Hairston SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Nix LF
Encarnacion 3B
Dickerson RF
Hanigan C
Arroyo P
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Just so long as our two worst hitters are batting first and second.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Career OBP of our 6, 7, 8 hitters
.344
.385
.404
Small sample and all that, but only Joey has a higher career OBP (.384) than any of those guys. Get ’em on for the pitcher to bunt ’em over, I guess.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
So Willy and Cherry can leave them?
Best hop is that Joey get a hit and the bottom of the order can bring him around
That's not a bad lineup...
if you shuffle it around and actually put the runners that get on base in front of Votto and BP
by wishfuldrifter on Jul 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean reverse the entire order?
Sure, then it’s not bad at all.
by Brian B on Jul 17, 2009 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
damn damn damn
how can you fuck this up so badly? it’s like he’s betting on the team to lose or something.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be awesome
if it came out that Dusty was betting against the reds…
I think i may start a website just for the purpose of promoting that story…
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
I've been trolling the ole interwebs
and it seems there is massive hatred for this lineup tonight. Even at Sheldon’s echo chamber of a blog people are getting pissed.
Does anyone think any of this reaches management’s ears? Does Walt think Dusty’s a moron too?
I’m to the point that I don’t expect Dusty to change, or suddenly become smart or understand basic stats, but I’m still holding out a bit of hope that Walt thinks Dusty is useless and will fire him. If I knew that Walt agrees with these lineups, I’d feel pretty hopeless about the future of this team.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
I think it's like I said before
Line-ups don’t matter nearly as much as people think they do. Walk may think Dusty’s line-ups are nuts (how couldn’t you), but, as long as the team plays hard and is on the same page…
Personally, and I know I’ll be beaten for this, but I think Dusty has done a good job so far this season. Would I change a few things? Hell, yes, I would, but I’m not so sure those things matter that much
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I was waiting for a comment like this. We’re not just talking about the lineups. The lineups are just a chapter in the tragic tale of how the Reds ownership is dumb enough to give the managerial job to a guy who PROVES day in day out (with lineups, lobbying for no-talent centerfielders/shortstops, mishandling pitchers) that despite a lifetime in baseball, HE DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE GAME. That’s sad. I wish there were some other excuse for the shit he does. It’s baffling. Sure, maybe he understands how the game was played in 1973, with an entirely different pool of athletes. but the game has passed him by and lapped him several times.
How can he still have a job? It’s not like he hasn’t done this before. It’s terriblethat Simone would spend hundreds of millions to buy a team and then make a lazy-ass hiring like this.
by Brian B on Jul 17, 2009 7:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haven't you always wondered
what would happened if the confirmation hearing for Sonia Sotomayor were held in front of the 1977 Royals?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
What does Stubbs have to do
to get a call-up? Did he kill Dusty’s dog or something?
Over at baseballprospectus.com, there’s a nice article tackling what each team should do the rest of the season. For the Reds, the advice was surprisingly simple…
1. Bring up Stubbs, bench Willy
2. Try to flip Ramon Hernandez for something
That was it!
"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.
Yeah, she also said the season was done, so there's that
Stubbs is “handling personal issues” according to Walt and not on the 40 man, so there two things in his path
Link to where Walt said that? I'd be curious to read it.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
It was in the comments yesterday or the day (in the reposter)
hold on and I’ll see if I can find it. Before I go, I think he said “he’s working on things” which I translated to “he has a non-baseball issue he’s taking care of.” For all I know, Walt could have meant he was working on his bunting, since the skipper likes to bunt every third inning when down by seven. I suppose one could disagree with my translation, but I still can’t imagine how “working on things” means baseball things, after all, can’t he work on them in Cincy when he’s doubling Willy’s walk rate?
Mixfmmike put this in the comments yesterday
—JOCKETTY ON STUBBS: Walt Jocketty agrees with the Baker on rushing Drew Stubbs.
“I saw him play three games last week. I saw that All-Star Game last night. He’s getting closer. You don’t want to rush a guy. Wait till our people think he’s ready. He’s only played Triple-A three months. That’s not rushing a guy.”
“Worst thing you can do is bring a guy here when there are certain things he is working on. I’m not going to say what they are, that’s his business. But if you bring a guy up when he’s not ready, they’ll exploit his weaknesses. It’s a lot tougher here than Triple-A. That’s the worst thing you can do for a guy’ss confidence.”
The "his business line lights a flair for me
nah
It’s his business because you don’t tear down your player’s skills to the press.
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No, I think he was talking about baseball issues
He wanted Stubbs to stay in AAA because he was “working on things.” Baseball things. He didn’t say what in particular, but the Mets announcers said the Reds told them they wanted Stubbs to hit for power more. He has only two home runs this season (3 if you count the one in the All-Star game).
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Dusty loves Wily
Dusty loved Co-Pat
Dusty says Fuck You Bloggers, you bloggers don’t know real baseball.
Walt loves Dusty, Bob loves Dusty..The players(except Who) love Dusty
If we remain in contention it will be in spite of Dusty…and even if we don’t finish well, the Reds are doing better than last season, so Dusty stays no matter what.
I blame Bob
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I'm late to all of this discussion, I just have to say
I would keep Votto over Fielder any day! That is not just because of my Votto favortism (which is well warranted!) but I think he has farther to go. The power I saw form Votto last night was impressive. As he continues to strengthen he will be hitting more homers as well. Votto is wonderful and he came up through our system which makes it feel like he belongs even more. I don’t want to see him go, even if we got traded a boat load od amazing players.
I agree -
But just think what could happen if Votto went on the Prince fielder diet !!!
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No, please!
if that diet only means some more homeruns a year, it simply is not worth it! lol To reach Fielder’s dimensions, given Votto’s height, I think he would have to put on like 100 lbs or something. It doesn’t realy matter, he’d still be hot.
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