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Off-night Open Thread: Desert Island Reds

No big league baseball tonight, so if you are drinking, you're probably just a drunk.

Since you are a drunk, let's play some games.  Tonight's game is "Who would you keep?"  Here are the rules: Imagine you had to protect 10 players from the Reds organization from an expansion draft.  Who are the 10 players that you would keep?  For this experiment, imagine that salary doesn't matter.  Just pick the 10 players who you would hold on to at all costs.  This includes minor leagues and unsigned draftees.  You only get 10 and you can keep whatever positions you'd like to keep.

In other news, the Reds have announced their rotation for the Brewers series:
THUR: Homer Bailey vs Braden Looper
FRI: Bronson Arroyo vs Jeff Suppan
SAT: Aaron Harang vs Manny Parra
SUN: Johnny Cueto vs Yovani Gallardo

Enjoy tonight.  For good or bad, the season starts back up tomorrow!

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Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 15, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL--that is a nice looking roster

So the cloning facility is up and running? Make sure to clone enough back-ups.

by Red_Poodle on Jul 15, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would just like to say

I had no part in the development of this facility.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least give yourself a janish for when cueto pitches 2/3 innings of crap

by Excalib8 on Jul 16, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey dude

we use the subject line around these parts

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Jul 16, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Edinson Volquez
Johnny Cueto
Homer Bailey
Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Yonder Alonso
Neftali Soto
Yorman Rodriquez
Mike Leake
Micah Owings

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

No Rosales!

I expected you would include the human hustle machine

by Red_Poodle on Jul 15, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, he's on the 25 man

but the last cut was Hanigan. Young catchers are extremely valuable, especially when they can outhit your CF, 3B, SS, etc.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 15, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree on the first six

After that, it’s kind of a crapshoot.

by ken on Jul 15, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wood shoulda been there, prolly

homer has arrived, folks. mark it down.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 15, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way I keep Rodriguez or Soto

They both might be great, but they’re so young, if I can only keep 10, I’m not counting on either of them.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Jul 15, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Micah Owings, nice

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No baseball, you say?

Why then you’ll be free to watch David Beckham’s return to MLS as the LA Galaxy take on the New York Red Bulls. Feel free to root for both teams to lose.

Players I’d keep
Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Johnny Cueto
Edinson Volquez
Drew Stubbs
Chris Heisey
Travis Wood
Zach Stewart
Yonder Alonso
Homer Bailey

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I like this list, but...

I don’t know if I’d make Homer untouchable. He’ll probably be good, but I wouldn’t keep him at all costs.

by jsl413 on Jul 15, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

js1413

The Poster of “No”

jk

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jul 15, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.... I see that now

It was a guess as to which way to go. I should know my fonts by now.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jul 15, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The New York Red Bulls?

They sold the name of the team to the highest bidder?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jul 15, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing beats the chicago fire

that’s still a team right?

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Jul 15, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is

And I lied. The Galaxy-Red Bulls game is actually tomorrow.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, everything beats the Chicago Fire

Especially themselves.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whaddya mean, no baseball?

AAA All-Star Game on at 10! (ESPN2)

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know enough to do this

But… since its free:

Joey Votto
Johnny Cueto
Edwin Volquez
Jay Bruce
Nick Masset
Yonder Alonso
Chris Valaika
Homer Bailey
Brandon Phillips
Willie Taveras (Oh…. come on! This team ain’t going to the playoffs this year. If we got rid of Willie now, we’d have no one to take our frustration out on.)

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jul 15, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Edwin=Edinson

Actually, it was my secret plan to hide an extra player on the roster.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jul 15, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

um

couple of interesting choices there…

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by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting good or interesting bad?

I’m very insecure about this game.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jul 15, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's just say

unconventional.

Hey, you never know. The Yankees left Mariano Rivera unprotected for the expansion draft, and nobody took him.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not know that,

and that is unbelievable, on the level of taking Sam Bowie before Jordan unbelievable

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Jul 15, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there's one thing I'm confident in the front office's ability to do

It’s to provide us with a player worthy of being the focus of our frustration.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's that silver lining

Good job!

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jul 15, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here I Go

Joey Votto
Johnny Cueto
Edinson Volquez
Jay Bruce
Zach Stewart
Yorman Rodriguez
Homer Bailey
Yonder Alonso
Mike Leake
Todd Frazier

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 15, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

My 10

Votto
Homer
Bruce
Cueto
Yonder
Leake
Soto
Heisey
Sulbaran
Z Stewart

"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.

by cesarhernandez on Jul 15, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

ummm Slyde?

the AAA All-Star Game (starring Drew Stubbs and Justin Lehr) begins at 10 EDT. so there is baseball on tonight. or you could get really drunk and go heckle all the Harry Potter fans lining up.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 15, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

he said

big league baseball.

Apparently, you’re not allowed to drink for minor league games.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't you see the little message below his post?

This was posted from my iPhone

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jul 15, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie...We should dress up as the Macho Man

and go make fun of those dorks waiting to see Harry Potter!

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Jul 15, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

dig it!

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by 'tHan on Jul 15, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, im probably going to see it tonight myself

but…but only because a totally hott chick wants me to go with her.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 15, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hot chick watching harry potter?

ok…i believe you…really i do

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by 'tHan on Jul 15, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

too late

I think he married her.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what if she's underage?

That Asian student at Hogwart’s with the Scottish accent in Goblet of Fire? Rowr.

Hooraycism!

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

my list

Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Johnny Cueto
Edinson Volquez
Brandon Phillips
Yonder Alonso
Zach Stewart
Aaron Harang

wow, this is really hard to find 10 guys in this organization worth keeping. for the last two, let’s say Homer and…Todd Frazier

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 15, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

counterpoint

Harang and BP are probably too old to really consider keeping when starting a franchise….but they’d be wicked chips for their trade value. Good list.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 15, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

BP too old? dude is only 28

and i disagree about Harang (though on the downside of his career) is too old to keep. when building a franchise, you cant just start with a bunch of prospects. half those guys wont ever pan out. so i’d wanna keep a few guys that are known quantities.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 15, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

the Colorado Rockies theory vs the Florida Marlins theory of building a franchise. sadly both have made a world series since the Reds have.

"I piss excellence"

by obc2 on Jul 15, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tough so many marginal players so many slots...

Joey Votto
Johnny Cueto
Edinson Volquez
Jay Bruce
Homer Bailey
Yonder Alonso
Mike Leake
Todd Frazier
Brandon Phillips
Ryan hanigan
Josh hamilton
Pops Daniels

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Jul 15, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I already spent my signing bonus....

can’t wait for my contract season.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jul 16, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

so

I wonder if Jocketty & Co. are plotting any roster moves? Is Rosy up for good? Or was it just a cup of coffee, while they used the ASB to decide on who’s really going to replace Jay Bruce?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes
No – Yes
Yes

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Jul 16, 2009 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Ten...

1. Joey Votto
2. Jay Bruce
3. Johnny Cueto
4. Edinson Volquez
5. Yonder Alonso
6. Homer Bailey
7. Brandon Phillips
8. Mike Leake
9. Drew Stubbs
10. Zach Stewart

I don’t think I’d protect Harang… Yeah, he might be drafted, but his salary might also scare away a brand new team to an extent…

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 15, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Here goes

1. Ramon Hernandez
2. Mike Lincoln
3. Willy Taveras
4. Jared Burton
5. Matt Maloney
6. Alex Gonzalez
7. Justing Lehr (hear he’s got a crazy splitter)
8. Adam Rosales
9. Paul Janish
10. Dusty Baker

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Jul 15, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

at last!

Someone realizes the true value of a slick-fielding SS/bullpen catcher/disaster relief pitcher!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet, the home run derby is on!

I wonder who will win?

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

It IS different though, this time I can hear the announcers

Time to change the channel, methinks. There was a Prime 9 marathon last night, maybe the ’ol DVR snagged a good one.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

josh hamilton!

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Jul 15, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I smell very poorly right now

I feel that you people need to know these things.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

me too...

I smell like a combination of rotting cottled caterpillar (T. ni to be exact), stink bug pheromone, and sweat… mmm

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 15, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAA all star game tonight on ESPN2

Probably more Reds in the thing than Brewers.

by ol Pete on Jul 15, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Taveras starting in CF?

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volquez
Cueto
Bailey
Owings
Alonso
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Dickerson
Leake

by onemoreredoctober on Jul 15, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's see...

Williamson
Randa
Graves
Cameron
Reese
Dave Williams (and his sideburns)
Treadway
Coffey
Van Poppel
Castro (manos de oro…nuff said)

That’s quite a rotation, yes/no?

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 15, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Rather

Votto
Bailey
Cueto
Wood
Heisey
Yonder
Bruce
Massett
Frazier
Francisco

I honestly think that Nick Masset might be the single best long-term, young option on our team this side of Votto. Beyond that, I’d keep both Votto and Yonder and hope either one can switch positions, or continue to develop into a trade chip for a stud SS, which we still won’t have. Escobar………

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 15, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about Massett

I don’t like keeping relief pitchers though. They’re so inconsistent from year to year that it seems like a crap shoot. Loving him this year for sure though.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...

Would you rather keep a potential closer (worst case scenario, 8th inning setup guy) for a reasonable, pre-arb amount?

As much as I love Coco, and as valuable as he’s been for us, I think Masset could get a damn good job of it done for a TON less money. Like…Matt-Holliday-in-LF kind of money.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 15, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

money doesn't matter in this

we’re looking at who you would keep just based on productivity.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 15, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still

I honestly think Massett is real deal Holyfield.

All you hookers and hos know how I feel.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 15, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I rec'n I like this comment

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this part got lost in the exercise

If money doesn’t matter, Harang and Phillips are definitely on my list.

by ken on Jul 16, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps I shouldn't have used the expansion draft analogy

I’m more interested in knowing who people think are the must have talents right now.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 16, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it, didn't he stink up the joint in ST?

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, kinda

but he was auditioning for the 5th starter role.

From the pen, he’s a machine.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 15, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keepers

Votto
Bruce
Phillips
Hanigan
Cueto
Volquez
Bailey
Alonso
Frazier
Soto

The last two are a total toss-up. If I had 5 more, which I think was the number for the protection lists when MLB last expanded, I’d go:

Heisey
Francisco
Stubbs
Z. Stewart
Wood

Don’t know what to do with Yorman or Masset. Masset’s could be a future bullpen anchor, but so could Roenicke, Sulbaran or a converted starter from the system. Yorman has the most raw talent arguably of anyone in the system, but he’s such an unknown that I’d hate to give up any guys on the cusp, especially since we might need them if we’re actually going to compete at the outset of the next decade.

In the early days of the device they were made of straw, sheepskin and granite... I've seen pictures of the one Babe Ruth used and while it's a step up from the devices that Ben Franklin and, say, Billy the Kid used it's still positively barbaric. And the gromits, if you can call them that, were made of corn husks. -Judge Montgomery Davies

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 15, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm surprised more people aren't keeping Harang

he’s one of the first names I thought of. I’d keep him over double-A pitchers, that’s for sure.

Cueto
Volquez
Harang
Bailey
Votto
Bruce
BP
Frazier
Stubbs
Heisey

I know I should keep more pitching, but I like those hitters too much. Besides, let ’em hit it to that outfield and try to get anywhere.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 15, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Because we're planning for the future

And for all the love I have for Harang, he’s not going to be a top-two starter in the Reds rotation within the next three years. He’s been ridden too hard.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take Harang as my 4th starter in 3 years

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 15, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

Votto
Alonso
Mesoraco
Bruce
Soto
Leake
Bailey
Wood
Stewart
Cueto

I’m drinking the Travis Wood kool-aid, and as risky as it sounds, I’m taking Mesoraco. I wanted a home-grown catcher, and while Hanigan is the safe pick, Devin has potential to develop into a solid MLB backstop.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Billy Mays making commercials from the dead?

This is the first time I’ve seen the Mighty MendIt one, and there he is.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Whether it's coma or death

it brings back your breath!

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 15, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Weird scheduling for the Bats

They have an eight game homestand, then play four games in Syracuse, then eight more games at home. Then four games in Rochester. Which is about an hour down the road from Syracuse.

Meanwhile, the SWB Yankees are rescheduling all their home games away. Because of a “drainage problem.” (It’s been really wet this summer.)

I’m considering going to Syracuse for the Bats series. I’ll get to say hi to Corey Patterson. Unless he’s called up again…

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

sweet

you can post some pics

by Red_Poodle on Jul 15, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

list

Votto
Cueto
Volquez
Bruce
Bailey
Phillips
Cordero (money is no object!)
Harang
Alonso
Leake

by Dave from Louisville on Jul 15, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Stubbs up

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Flyout

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anything, it's the opposite

They said that the Reds weren’t going to call him up despite Bruce’s injury, because there are still things he needs to work on.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think they're thinking about it that way

They’re thinking about his development, and his future, not what he can do for the team right now.

The Yankees are visibly torn on this issue: what’s best for the team right now, vs. what’s best for the team in the long-term. They lean more toward “win now” than most teams.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

You mean the Reds are doing the right thing, not rushing their prospects. ;-)

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lehr on the mound to begin the bottom of the 1st

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

1 pitch, 1 out

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Escobar grounds out, Murton strikes out.

1-2-3 innings for Lehr. Looks pretty good.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Lehr starting this game?

In the early days of the device they were made of straw, sheepskin and granite... I've seen pictures of the one Babe Ruth used and while it's a step up from the devices that Ben Franklin and, say, Billy the Kid used it's still positively barbaric. And the gromits, if you can call them that, were made of corn husks. -Judge Montgomery Davies

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 15, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Shelley Duncan

I love the guy, but he’s got to be one of the ugliest baseball players in existence.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Ten I’d Keep:

Votto
Hanigan
Cueto
Volquez
Alonso
Masset
Phillips
Bailey
Stubbs
Cordero
Frazier

One I’d Want To See Hit By A Freight Train:
Harang

by MyScreenNameIsKevin on Jul 15, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

! Corky Miller (duh)
@ Cueto (will get back on track in a big way)

  1. Votto (cuz hes cheap)
    $ Bailey (location, location, location)
    % Hannigan
    ^ Dickerson
    & Encarnacion
  2. Bruce
    ( Alonso (better first base D than votto)
    ) Andrew Bowman in the Dayton Dragons, cuz he has the same name as me.

Heisey

by Excalib8 on Jul 15, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I think my brain just broke

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

second'd

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 15, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Stubbs already out?

In the early days of the device they were made of straw, sheepskin and granite... I've seen pictures of the one Babe Ruth used and while it's a step up from the devices that Ben Franklin and, say, Billy the Kid used it's still positively barbaric. And the gromits, if you can call them that, were made of corn husks. -Judge Montgomery Davies

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 15, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Scratch that, now batting

In the early days of the device they were made of straw, sheepskin and granite... I've seen pictures of the one Babe Ruth used and while it's a step up from the devices that Ben Franklin and, say, Billy the Kid used it's still positively barbaric. And the gromits, if you can call them that, were made of corn husks. -Judge Montgomery Davies

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 15, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now homering!

2 Run shot for Stubbs

In the early days of the device they were made of straw, sheepskin and granite... I've seen pictures of the one Babe Ruth used and while it's a step up from the devices that Ben Franklin and, say, Billy the Kid used it's still positively barbaric. And the gromits, if you can call them that, were made of corn husks. -Judge Montgomery Davies

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 15, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

GIZZZONE

See that coming? No.

See ya Slick Willy….

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 15, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay.

July 12, 3 innings pitched, 5 earned runs
June 26, 4.2 innings pitched, 7 earned runs
May 30, 4.1 innings pitched, 8 earned runs

I could go on, but those are not numbers an alleged ace is supposed to put up

I guess I am just tired of him going out there and just being mediocre. Tired of him having a great game and a shitty game.

Tired of him sucking.

by MyScreenNameIsKevin on Jul 15, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

He seems a long way from sucking

Particularly when we have so many players on the team that are sucking more than he is. It’s a surprise to see him at the top of someone’s freight train list.

He’s going to go 8 innings on Saturday.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expected more out of him.

Yeah, Harang isn’t the only one sucking.

But he is the biggest disappointment. Especially after last year, I was just hoping that was a fluke. Turns out, it wasn’t. That’s Harang.

by MyScreenNameIsKevin on Jul 15, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, I'll be the one

Go look up “run support”. I’ll give you until tomorrow at 5:00 PM to compare everyone on the Reds staff.

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

With run support, Harang would be a mediocre 9-9 or maybe 10-9 instead of a dismal 5-9.

I will take from now until 5:00 tomorrow to look up “run support” if you give yourself until 5:00 tomorrow to look up “giving your team absolutely no chance to win by giving up so many early runs that it is hopeless.”

by MyScreenNameIsKevin on Jul 15, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, I agree.

But you have to think most people expected a lot more out of Harang than they did Arroy and Cueto.

by MyScreenNameIsKevin on Jul 15, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

I’m obviously not as down on the guy as you are, but it also should be mentioned that Harang’s swoons last season and this season come after extremely questionable use by Dusty (relief in the 18 inning game against SD, coming back in after a two hour rain delay to get the win this year). Is this the only reason for Harang’s subpar performances? Probably not, but interesting nonetheless.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't live in the Cincinnati area anymore.

So I don’t get a chance to keep in touch with some things. Like, what is the vibe about Dusty? Do players like playing for him? Does his job seem safe? Is he considered to be doing a good job?

I wasn’t thrilled when the Reds hired him. Felt he was more a brand name than a quality hire.

by MyScreenNameIsKevin on Jul 15, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't live in Cincinnati either, so someone else could maybe answer better

However, I always hear about how much the players enjoy playing for Dusty, but for the life of me, I can’t see why. He’s loyal to his starters, which is good if you’re one of them. But he makes adjustments based on performances extremely slowly, if at all. Prior to coming to Cincinnati, the way he handled a pitching staff was a big knock against him. Honestly, despite just now bringing it up, I don’t think he’s done a bad job with the pitching. Those two instances with Harang were clearly mistakes, but mostly he’s been okay.

You’re right in that he was a brand name hire. Castellini wanted a big name, and Dusty was hired with incredible speed. Back when we were all complaining about Jerry Narron and wondering who should replace him, the one common note around here was, “I’ll be happy with anyone as long as it isn’t Dusty Baker.”

One and a half more years.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a bet, young 'nukkah?

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's the 8th inning and Harang's not in

I’ll buy you a beer.

(Offer good in stadium only)

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's 50/50.

Harang has just as much chance of pitching 8 and allowing two runs that he does of pitching 4 and giving up seven.

by MyScreenNameIsKevin on Jul 15, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbers!

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

STUBBS. GONE.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

Stubbs only has two home runs this year. (I saw one of them.)

BTW, guess who was playing RF for the IL in last year’s All-Star game?

Darnell McDonald.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Big Mac!

"I'm going to become rich and famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

by jch24 on Jul 15, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

EY jr was pretty funny in his futures game interview

did a good imitation of his dad’s souvenir city call

by ol Pete on Jul 15, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Winfield

did anyone hear that story that Winfield told about the SD Chicken in the 70s dropping a noose down on George Foster?

THAT’S FUCKING RACIST!

by Brian B on Jul 15, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

I don’t know if Foster is black or not, but a noose seems like a crazy thing to use.

by ol Pete on Jul 15, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Five years ago yesterday

Andyfan was playing 2B on the IL All-Star team. He ended up hitting a walkoff homer in the 10th, and being named MVP.

Third base coach Rick Burleson (then of the Louisville Bats) congratulates Andy as he runs by.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 15, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

wow Murton goes down again watching

part of the treasure that Billy Beane extracted for Rich Harden

/sarcasm

by ol Pete on Jul 15, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny, I was thinking about this yesterday.

Great minds think alike Slyde. So do ours.

I’d go with
Votto
Phillips
Encarnacion
Bruce
Cueto
Volquez
Alonso
Bailey
Stubbs
Stewart

In recent expansion drafts, the rules have allowed teams to protect 15 players from the entire organization. Players drafted or signed as amateur free agents in the last two years were exempt from the expansion draft and didn’t need to be protected. After losing one player in the first round, three more players may be pulled back. After losing a player in the second round, three more players may be protected. After losing a player in the third round, all remaining players were protected.

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by Thundering Turtle on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah!

Reese
Larkin
Cameron
Boone
Tomko
Ryan
Branson
Dawkins
Larson
Broussard

/1999’d

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 15, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

This is an easy list.

Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Brandon Phillips
Edinson Volquez
Johnny Cueto
Homer Bailey
Yonder Alonso
Todd Frazier
Zach Stewart
Drew Stubbs

by Geki on Jul 16, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

As a drunken lurker/negligibly esteemed RRer

I am shocked (SHOCKED!) at how many lists on which Volquez was not present.

by Colin Auscapee on Jul 16, 2009 2:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Two reasons

1. He’s injury-prone
2. As long as you’re looking at starting pitchers, you definitely keep Homer and Cueto over him.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't definitely keep Homer over him

that’s ludicrous.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 16, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Homer

Sources say that Volquez is toast…

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by 'tHan on Jul 16, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The way I see it

You’ve got two pitchers with similar ceilings (1 or 2 starter), and similar head case problems, just one is a year or two ahead. If I can only have one, I’ll take the guy without tendonitis issues.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jul 16, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take the guy that has proven something

(actually, I took both of them)

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 16, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injuries are a lot easier to overcome than failure.

I hope Homer has turned the corner, but I know Volquez has. And there are no guarantees that Homer will stay healthy.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Jul 16, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

both Homer and Cueto? and since when is Volquez injury-prone? as far as i can tell, this is the first time he’s spent any significant time with injury in is career.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 16, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty's 10

Since Dusty doesn’t normally post on here I thought i’d fill in his 10 for him:

wt
jhj
votto
Ramon
ee
richar
David weathers
a harangatang
wt again just in case
and c “pitter” Patterson

by RampantRedsFan on Jul 16, 2009 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Ernie's Ten

Joey Votto
Nick Masset
Brandon Phillips
Johnny Cueto
Aaron Harang
Francisco Cordero
Arthur Rhodes
Homer Bailey
Chris Dickerson
Jay Bruce

by ErnieBoyer on Jul 16, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Ernie, I'm not familiar w/you - aqre you a newbie?

If so welcome, if not good luck…they only like you here if you wear black socks and sandles with your dress pants.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Jul 17, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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