Red Reposter - 6/9/2009
Major League Baseball's Amateur Draft starts today, and for the first time it will be televised. Here's a bit of a rundown:
- Follow along with lots of details at MLB.com. The first round will also be televised on the big TV, if you've got MLB Network, that is.
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The Reds have the 8th, 43rd, 57th, 88th, 119th, 149th, and 179th pick. Baseball Analysts has a lengthy discussion about many of the main prospects in the draft.
- Then again, why go all the way over to other sites when you can just re-read all of Thundering Turtle's awesome previews.
- Tom Groeschen takes a look at the difficult job of being an amateur scout. It's a big day for them today.
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BtB interviews John Sickels about the draft
John Sickels: I would say the mental side. I think finding new ways to assess a player’s mental and emotional makeup, both currently and in the future, is the "next frontier." Some people are doing neurobiological work the "brain types" of competitive athletes, while others are taking a more psychological approach. A lot of teams use standardized personality tests, and of course scouts have been assessing and analyzing player personalities for 100 years. I think that is where the next breakthroughs in player analysis will be, though what exactly that breakthrough will involve, I don’t know.
- We'll have a draft thread up later on today, for those that want to chat about it while it happens.
Other, non-draft related stuff:
- Both John Fay and Hal McCoy think this is a huge road trip for the Reds. Fay thinks that "even without Votto, anything less than a 4-2 trip will be a disappointment." McCoy thinks the Reds shouldn't even consider losing to the Nationals:
Losing a sweep to the Nationals would be reprehensible. Losing two games would be terrible. Losing one would be inexcusable.
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Reds Asst. GM Bob Miller chatted with fans a few days ago. He gave a good explanation to why Bill Bray is not on the 60-day DL, for those that were wondering about it (hat tip to jsl413):
Bray is actually on the minor league disabled list and not the Major League disabled list. To put him on the 60-day at the Major League level we would have to recall him and place him on the Major League DL. Then he would get Major League service, which would make him a free agent a year earlier, which wouldn't make sense. Bill is out for the rest of this year and we hope he'll be ready for Spring Training next year.
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The Reds had the second slowest speed off the bat for batted balls in April. You can learn that and so much more from the new Hit FX data that MLB is starting to generate. The sabermetric world is just starting to get their hands dirty with this data, but it will be interesting to see what we can learn from it.
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Joe Posnanski talked to Bill James about walks, and then wrote everything down.
Bill: In reality, the batter has more to do with when a walk occurs than does the pitcher. Walks are a very complex phenomenon -- much more complex than power. They involve ...
1) Selectivity or patience. ...that is, trying to get the pitch you want.
2) The desire to get on base by walk.
3) Fear of the hitter.
4) Batting eye (ability to read the pitch).
5) (Maybe the largest element) Bat control. -
Sporting News Power Rankings are out for this week. The Reds come in at 14th, dropping 3 spots.
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wait a minute
when does the draft start today? why did i think it was noon?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 9, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6pm ET
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 9, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hasnt it always started at noon?
is that where im getting it?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 9, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but this year it’s a special televised event!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 9, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they actually think (more) people will watch it tonight
Considering two other “sports” have championship games on network TV and Mel Kiper doesn’t work for MLB Network.
Just wondering.
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by RedConn on Jun 9, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be around to post some stuff
as the picks unfold through the next three days, if anyone is interested. Shall I start a new thread for that when the time comes?
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll put up a new thread before the game thread goes up tonight
and we’ll have a new thread each day for people that want to follow along. I’d love it though if you wouldn’t mind tracking the draft for us in the thread. Your insights are most appreciated.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 9, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"most appreciated"
more like “indispensable”.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 9, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good!
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwin
I try not to copy + paste too much from Baseball Prospectus since it’s a pay site, but Will Carroll has a blurb about Edwin in his Under the Knife Column. Basically, his sources are saying that Edwin has suffered a “major setback,” and may need surgery after all.
Oh, and Kevin Goldstein has his mock draft up with the Reds taking Shelby Miller.
by D-Rock on Jun 9, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More on Edwin
He says that they are sending him for an MRI and they’ll know more after that.
He also takes a shot at Dusty and the Reds saying that they probably could have avoided the setback with a little more caution.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 9, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
grain of salt
Will is cautious by nature.
(ex: new red paint on stadium concrete is more impressive and memorable than “big back of dicks” sign holding hotties)
"We're going to Adonis, son"
jch24
by obc2 on Jun 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shelby Miller I like.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've looked at 4 mock drafts today, and all of them have the Reds taking a different player.
It’s madness!
by D-Rock on Jun 9, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its a weak draft overall
i dont think anyone’s in love with anyone 4-12.
"We're going to Adonis, son"
jch24
by obc2 on Jun 9, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's weak
I just think there aren’t guys head and shoulders above others. (apart from Strasburg)
After the first few, there are 10-15 solid guys that you could make an argument for
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jun 9, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN insider has said for a couple of weeks now that
the Reds have been shopping for 3B help. I think they’ve known it was coming, or something. Conspiracy! How about shopping for a LF while they’re at it? Holliday’s stock is done falling.
by jsl413 on Jun 9, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeeze.. double post fail, didn't even include the body. ESPN has had the Reds looking for a 3B for a couple of weeks now. Maybe they've known all along.
by jsl413 on Jun 9, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what the Red's have 'known' but
When EdE went of the DL, my inside Red’s source told me (and I reported it here at RR then) that Edwin may well never play another game for the Reds. He cited what he described as ‘clubhouse incidences etc’. which I take to mean that EdE’s has somebody (or two or three ) in the organization that just plain don’t want him around.
How’s that for ‘hard factual reporting’?
Sweat plus sacrifice equals success. Charles O. Finley
Sweat plus sacrifice equals a runner in scoring position. Dusty Baker
Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads
by Madville on Jun 9, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
When I talked to Nick Krall, he was quick to defend EdE against any of the criticism that I laid out, even when we were off the record. Obviously he’s not the decision maker, but he’s pretty high up the chain. I think that plus the fact that the Reds gave him a 2-year contract even when they didn’t have to makes me think there are plenty of people who still want him around.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 9, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frazier
I think Frazier playing left field is also another indication that the Reds are high on EDE.
by CamIam on Jun 9, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
but they’ve also got Francisco at AA. It could just be that Frazier is more flexible defensively than Francisco.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 9, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frazier is etremely athletic..He strikes me as a guy who'd make the mistake of telling Dusty he could be the #3 catcher.
I would like nothing better than to Edwin ‘shove it up all the naysayers’ butts (sideways). I love it when he went down to AAA and worked his ass off and came back with improved defense.
Whats up with Chris Vailaka, last I recall he was struggling with the bat in AAA. He’s another of many good looking prospects.
Sweat plus sacrifice equals success. Charles O. Finley
Sweat plus sacrifice equals a runner in scoring position. Dusty Baker
Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads
by Madville on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's going on with Valika..last report he was struggling at the bat at AAA
Is he another Jannish…great glove but not so great hit?
Sweat plus sacrifice equals success. Charles O. Finley
Sweat plus sacrifice equals a runner in scoring position. Dusty Baker
Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads
by Madville on Jun 9, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been on the DL for a while now
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dig all these double posts - my computer has a life of its own!
and no sig line to boot
Sweat plus sacrifice equals success. Charles O. Finley
Sweat plus sacrifice equals a runner in scoring position. Dusty Baker
Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads
by Madville on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a HitFX list by Hardball Times
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/which-batters-hit-the-hardest-balls-in-april/
The Reds listed Votto 82.6/ Hairston 74.4/ Dickerson and Bruce 72.9/ Taveras 67.9 and Encarcion 64. The ave hitter was 75.1 and ave pitcher 66.1. Pretty obvious EE was hurt to start the year when he was driving the ball at a lower speed than the ave pitcher.
Also looks like they are working on a fielding system- great day for baseball Geeks.
by davidmac84 on Jun 9, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a bad feeling about this draft.
I think the Reds are getting wrecked by the economy a lot more than anyone in this town realizes and a lot more than anyone in the organization will let on. I think Walt’s utter lack of activity, as well as the fact that Lincoln is still on this team, is mostly the result of a mandate from above to not spend money. I don’t think Castellini is any different from Carl Lindner and that’s gonna hurt us in the draft. I’m fully expecting us to reach on a player who we can sign for cheap instead of actually going after someone good. My guess for the Reds pick is LHP Mike Minor out of Vandy, a guy that will be signable and if he reaches his peak, will be a back of the rotation starter. He’s polished and will probably move quickly, but if the Reds take a signability pick, I’m not going to let the economy be an excuse for them. If this team is serious about winning, Bob Castellini needs to man up and spend an extra million bucks on a good player.
I’m hoping for one of Crow, Scheppers, or White. All three should be fairly signable, though Crow will probably be gone. Scheppers’ shoulder is slightly worrisome, but I’ll take the risk on a guy with his upside. White doesn’t blow me away, but I like him more than Minor and he should also be fairly signable.
by Geki on Jun 9, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Via the Fay
Since resigning as Nats GM, Jim Bowden has maintained a strangely visible profile, appearing on an LA radio show, dropping baseball-related twitter musings, etc. But only in a recent sit-down interview with Brett Haber did Bowden officially “break his silence” and describe, among other things, the emotional end to his tenure.
“I cried,” he said. “Sure. I didn’t hold them back.”
Bowden was actually supposed to work for ESPN this week as a broadcaster during the NCAA baseball tournament’s Super Regional. A press release from last week indicated as much.
But, according to Deadspin, Bowden’s Haber interview has cost him the gig.
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by BubbaFan on Jun 9, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just like Bowden to blow himself up on LA radio
Dumbdick
Sweat plus sacrifice equals success. Charles O. Finley
Sweat plus sacrifice equals a runner in scoring position. Dusty Baker
Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads
by Madville on Jun 9, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question about Joey Votto
This is quite the selfish question, but I was wondering when is joey votto expected back and why was he put on the DL? I have him on my fantasy team and have really become a big fan or votto and the reds. Thanks.
by nysportsfan03 on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't know why he was put on the DL outside of "stress related issues"
and no one knows when he’ll be back. He’s expected to take a rehab stint in AAA before coming back, so it’s going to be a few weeks at the earliest. If I had to bet, I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t back before the All Star game.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One good thing on this trip
Unless weather comes into play, it looks like we will miss Grienke in KC. That guy would probably no-hit us.
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by MixFMKyle on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you were
I would have liked to hear about that from one of the beat writers, though, rather than a Q&A with the assistant GM. Isn’t that their job to dig into stuff like that?
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on Jun 10, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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