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SIS - Worst movie ever and what would it take to get Holliday?


This SIS is a two headed beast.  That's how we roll on Reds' off days. 

 

1) Whats the worst movie you ever paid to see at the theatre or rented?  Horrible movies on cable do NOT count  seeing as how there must be some form of financial investement to be considered. I dont recall ever walking out on a film at the cinema.  I've certainly gotten tired of rented movies, however, and popped them out of the player before the film ended.  The last I recall is that aircraft controller movie with John Cusack and Billy Bob Thornton. 

 

2) If the Reds had Matt Holliday and you had to trade him for only Reds minor league prospects....whom would you want in order to trade MH?  Billy Beane is an intelligent man with plenty of bravado.  Matt Holliday will not come cheap and i'd say the bidding begins at 3 premium prospects, possibly 4.  

 

 

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1. Powder — fucking terrible

2. I don’t want Holliday, therefor, I don’t care what it takes

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, Powder was a rental

Worst in theater was Charlie’s Angels 2 — worst $1 I ever spent.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wendigo, rental

Also I don’t think we need to try for Holliday, too pricey for a half year rental.

"Don't let the brain interfere with the heart" -- Albert Einstein

by jch24 on Jun 29, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I used to work at a movie theater, so I saw a lot of movies for free

Including the magical summer of 1997 that saw the releases of The Avengers, Godzilla, and my choice for worst all-time, Batman & Robin. I didn’t pay to see any of them, at least monetarily. That is a trifecta of suck that would be hard to top.

I don’t think Beane would go for it, but I’d be willing to give up Danny Dorn and Juan Francisco for Holliday.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 29, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Batman & Robin is the worst I can remember seeing in a theater

We absolutely knew it would suck going in, but went anyways. We were 16, the summer was hot and the theater was well air conditioned.

Recently I saw about 40 minutes of The Love Guru that my friend had Netflixed. Does that count?

Would Holliday really cost 3-4 premium prospects, or would the deal just have to be better than the draft picks the A’s would receive when he walks?

by Red Menace on Jun 29, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way I would try for Holliday is if we could lock him up for a year or two.

To me, he’s just not worth it, as JCH said — the Reds’ we’ll probably only get him for half a year. I would not give anyone up for him for a half-season trade.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The draft picks are contingent upon the A's offering Holliday arbitration

I don’t know if they would do that right now since the A’s are a small market team and Holliday isn’t exactly lighting the world on fire right now.

The Crow II was horrible btw

by Snake the Jake on Jun 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's have the payroll coming off the books to afford Holliday accepting arb

All their bad veteran contracts (exception: Chavez), come off after ’09.

And Holliday would be stupid to accept anyway, since that’s another year of hitting in a pitcher’s paradise.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jun 30, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me why are we

So blind to see.
That the ones we hurt
Are you and me?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhhhh ... I forgot about Batman & Robin

Yep, that was truly terrible. But I was 13 when I saw it and refused to walk out of the theater and wait around form my ride home. No Charlie’s Angels 2? Walked out of that POS 10 minutes in.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here we go

1. The Prequel to Dumb & Dumber – I think it was called Dumb and Dumberer, When Harry met Lloyd. Worst freaking movie ever. Saw it at the theatre.

2. I say a package of Dickerson & Francisco and either Roenicke or Carlos Fisher

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by MixFMKyle on Jun 29, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that movie

Can’t believe my wife and I sat through that garbage. 2 hours of our lives that we’ll never get back.

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jun 29, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only movie I ever fell asleep during at the theater

Jurassic Park II: The Lost World

And I think if a deal materializes for Holliday, it’ll be something like Valaika or Francicso/Dorn/Fisher/Thompson for Holliday and a PTBNL. Maybe someone like Manuel or Viola instead of Fisher, but Dorn and Thompson seems like Beane-type guys to me.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jun 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Theatre: Full Frontal

Misleading title, for starters.

by ken on Jun 29, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vampires: Los Muertos

Starring Jon Bon Jovi

Seriously, I can’t make that up. We rented it because, I mean, seriously, Bon Jovi? I later saw it on a Saturday morning on the Sci-Fi channel. Sci Fi on Saturday morning has some of the funniest movies: Leviathon, Mansquito, etc.

I don't need a hot breakfast to have a good time.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 29, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and as much as I'd like to see Holiday in the lineup, not if the cost is prohibitive.

But i think that’s what everyone is saying.

I don't need a hot breakfast to have a good time.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 29, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think

it would take three of the following: Stubbs, Homer, Roenicke, Soto, Stewart.

Nobody wants Daryl Thompson, fyi.

the only possible change would be if the economy greatly reduced possible trading partners. there cant be too many organizations wanting to take on salary at this point.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much agree with the general sentiment on Holiday

Unless we’re picking something up for a longer term arrangement, let it be.

Regarding the movie, it’s definitely Wing Commander.

by RedStalk on Jun 29, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What Happens in Vegas -

what in the hell was I thinking?

I don’t want Holliday.

by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jun 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have probably seen worse movies,

but various factors conspired to move me to walk out of these two:
1). Me, Myself, and Irene
2). 21 Grams

Obc, your list is ridiculous, no way 3 months of Holliday is worth that, and I don’t think anyone would pay that steeply. Homer for Holliday straight up is a bad trade for us, in my opinion. One good, one decent and one marginal prospect is all I would give up. Or one marquee, developed prospect.

"I lay my head on the railroad tracks, and wait for the double E"- Warren Zevon

by Colin Auscapee on Jun 29, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we'll see

Supply and demand is a beautiful thing. And the supply sucks, fyi.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 29, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Me, Myself and Irene.

It reminded me of the newsroom I worked in. The female agate clerk had the task of keeping the crazy sports writers in line.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jun 29, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheech and Chong: The Corsican Brothers

Even at 12 years old I couldn’t sit through it. Went back out to the mall and gawked and girls with GBH (“Great Big Hair”) who wouldn’t be caught dead talking to me.

Since we’re pretty much at a consensus, I’ll offer a twist on the Holliday scenario. The general idea seems to be,

“I’d like to have Holliday, but I don’t want to pay the price it takes.”

So substitute the star/starlet’s (this game is for you, too, ladies!) name that fits in that statement. For instance,

“I’d like to have (a date with) Lindsay Lohan, but I wouldn’t have to pay the price of notoriety/possible STD that it would take.”

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Jun 29, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd give em Roenicke and Soto

for Holliday and be fine with it. And maybe another low-level prospect.

The movie? A tie between Blair Witch Project and Natural Born Killers. Never walked out on any movie, but those two were the closest.

Blair Witch just sucked, and made me physically ill to boot! In theory, I should have liked NBK, but it was just so brutally bad.

"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.

by cesarhernandez on Jun 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

worst movie ever - Irreversible

the most violent skull bashing scene and rape scene on film – i nearly threw up. never had had such a physical reaction to a movie. should have never been made.

by Daedalus on Jun 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Worst Movie

Manos de Oros : The Hands of Gold (2006)
    A low-budget horror film made by El Paso fertilizer salesman Hal P. Warren, about a MLB Shortstop on vacation who stumbles upon an isolated house inhabited by a polygamous cult of lesbian Softball players. Among its most notorious flaws, besides poor production qualities, is an opening sequence with little dialogue in which the Shortstop drives through the countryside for several minutes looking for a hotel. Also Diego Del Rio ( Juan Castro) is seen striking over out 16 times in the movie for no apparent reason nor with any connection with the plot. The movie is bi-lingual with no sub titles. The plot revolves around the story of how a good field-no hit Shortstop is lured into a farm house filled with lesbian Zombie softball players who convince Juan that they alone can teach him how to hit – from both sides of the plate. Another non-notable feature of the film is Kevin Costner, who played the character Torgo, supposedly a satyr, wore a rigging for his legs that made his performance extremely awkward.Also noted Costner’s total lack of satyr dialect in his speech. The film gained cult popularity by being featured on Mystery Science Theater 3000.It has held the #1 spot on the IMDb Bottom 100 repeatedly. It also has a 9% rating at Rotten Tomatoes, and the one positive review linked on Rotten Tomatoes is for its Mystery Science Theater appearance rather than the film itself (which the reviewer, Madville Keysonlipsch), calls “unwatchable”).

We don’t need no stinking Holliday

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin

by Madville on Jun 29, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fyi

this is what you get when you image search ‘speechless’ on google

have a nice night

by jacob brumfield on Jun 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's an advantge to not watching movies much

You don’t see a lot of bad movies. Um, maybe one of the porn flicks they used to show at my college? “Debbie Does Dallas, Part XXXVII,” perhaps.

RLN had an interesting discussion in the comments section of their game recap. The problem with waiting around for a three-run homer isn’t the homer. The Reds are hitting about league average homers. The problem is the “three-run” part. Their OBP is terrible.

I think it would take Homer Bailey at least to get Holliday, and I don’t think Jocketty would do that deal.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 29, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Menace to Society.

My wife told me it was the Dennis the Menace movie. We headed off to the drive in, paid to park, grabbed our popcorn and settled in to laugh at Dennis befuddling Mr. Wilson. The opening music began playing and we immediately knew this wasn’t Dennis. We left, making fun of ourselves all the way home.

Holliday, I don’t see happening. I don’t know that I want it to happen. If I’m Beane, I start by dreaming big, asking for Alonso and Stubbs. I’d settle for Frazier, Stubbs and Roenicke. Even that might not do it.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jun 29, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Frazier, Stubbs, and Roenicke would do it from an A's perspective IMO

If Beane turns down Frazier, Stubbs, and Roenicke, as an A’s fan, I would be rather irritated, unless someone was offering a better deal. I’m not trying to speak for all A’s fans though. Fills two long term needs for the team, including the 3B deathtrap, and an MLB-ready reliever who hasn’t really gotten a fair shot in MLB, although his minor league peripherals are really good.

Oh. Awful movie? 10,000 BC was bad. The history nerd in me wanted to see it.

PS: What happened to the eggs?

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jun 30, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Willy got angry and started getting on base a little bit

I’d imagine it will be used the same way the baby under the basket is used, on an as-needed basis. :)

"Don't let the brain interfere with the heart" -- Albert Einstein

by jch24 on Jun 30, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But then, frankly, I don't see too much of a fit in Cincy.

Especially if Taveras gets cut/benched in favor of a superior option. Ride the career years of Nix/Gomes and shove Stubbs in CF.

Seeing more Nix/Gomes and less Dickerson in LF should help.

Nix + Gomes = 1.8 WAR, Holliday = 2.2 WAR (so far). Holliday’s seen more PAs than the platoon has. It’s not going to be a huge improvement, unless Nix and Gomes seriously regress.

But then, I’m probably overlooking something really obvious.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jun 30, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I think you hit the nail on the head

That while Holliday would be a nice get for the Reds, he wouldn’t be as dramatic of an improvement that what we’ve seen in LF so far. I think the people clamoring for Holliday just want the Reds to make a big deal to improve, and he’s the biggest offensive name on the market right now. It really doesn’t solve the main problem with the offense, which is getting on base at the top of the order.

As far as giving up Frazier, Stubbs, and Roenicke for him, while a half season of a guy like Holliday is probably worth that much, the improvement isn’t worth that much to the Reds, if that makes sense. Giving up two blue-chippers and a good reliever for a slight improvement at a position that hasn’t been a problem doesn’t do it for me.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jun 30, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

but i think Nix/Gomes wont sustain this production level and Holliday can improve significantly.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 30, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to work at a movie theatre, so I didn't have to pay...

But I sat down to watch The Two Jakes, and I was the last one to leave the theatre – and that was around the 45 minute mark.

Worst movie I’ve ever seen? Battlefield Earth was bad, but I got paid to watch that one. :P

“Head of State” was a pretty bad flick that I paid to see, as was “The Day After Tomorrow.”

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by PeteyHendrix on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hawmps

With a doubt the worst movie I ever went to see at a theatre. It came out my senior year of high school. It had Jack Elam, Slim Pickens, and Denver Pyle in it. Just terrible.

Hope Springs Eternal!

by Caleb on Jul 1, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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