18 game capsule, take 4
Like one of those belated birthday cards you used to get from your aunt, this latest Reds rundown is neither exciting nor filled with cash. Also, it’s late. Now—on to the business of explaining in gruesome detail how the Reds went 7-11 against a very weak slate of opponents. All stats are through Friday’s games.
2009 Reds, Capsule 4
Overview:
Wins/Losses: 7 - 11 (PSA), 35-37 (YTD)
Strength of Schedule: .484, YTD (16th most difficult in NL; 30th most difficult in ML) [Prev: .509 YTD SOS, 4th most difficult in NL; 5h most difficult in ML]
RPI (ESPN): .485, YTD (12th best in NL; 24th best in ML)
[Prev: .512 YTD RPI, 6th best in NL; 10h best in ML]
Baseball Prospectus playoff odds (based on team stats, YTD): 6.3% [prev: 19.9%]
Baseball Prospectus playoff odds (based on ELO concept): 6.9% [prev: 16.9%]
Baseball Prospectus playoff odds (based on team stats + PECOTA projections): 10.2% [prev: 15.9%]
Offense:
- .220/.295/.332 (AVG/OBP/SLG) for the team for the period, compared to NL average of .254/.321/.401.
- The runs created per game "stat" is a Bill James creation that attempts to extrapolate a single player's numbers into a team context. With a large enough sample size, it tends to work pretty well for players with non-extreme performances. Occasionally, I'll put the numbers together for an 18-game segment, and the RC/G stat will return a negative number-invariably connected a batter with one or two games worth of numbers, or a pitcher, or some other small sample. Wait, did I say "invariably"? I present to you, Willy Tavares, June 6-26:
- 14 G, 61 PA, 8 hits, 0 BB, 2 2B, 0 3B, 0 HR, 4 R, 3 RBI, 3 SB, 1 CS, 15 K, 2 GDP, 2 SH. .136 Average, .136 OBP, .169 SLG, .305 OPS...-1.47 RC/G, which is less than zero like whoa.
- In non-related news, Chris Dickerson managed a 942 OPS over the same period in 44 PA.
- Of the 8 players with the most plate appearances during this period, only two had OPS's over 700: Jonny Gomes (1260) and Ryan Hanigan (817).
- 11 home runs for the team in this 18 game stretch
- Because I know you all love consistency: Alex Gonzalez's OPS, period by period: 461, 562, 621, 579. Like a Rolex.
- Jay Bruce's BABIP for the season: .201, after a .188 mark in this last period.
- Speaking of Mr. Bruce, he has been essentially an average player for the season, despite his unusual stat line. I'm expecting a monster 2nd half from the guy.
- Welcome back, Joey.
Pitching:
- 2nd straight period of worse-than-average ERAs.
- On a period-by-period basis, this was the first in which the team K/9IP rate fell below 6, which tends to be my benchmark for success.
- Among starting pitchers, only Aaron Harang had a PSA ERA below 4. However, when you look at expected ERA, based on peripherals, no one had cause to write home to Mom: Harang-4.81 xERA, Arroyo-6.75, Cueto-5.54, Owings-6.22, Maloney-6.06
- In addition to the K rate falling, the HR/9IP has spiked. After resting around 1 HR / 9 IP all season, the team allowed 1.5 HR / 9 IP in this period.
- The bullpen overall was solid, although perhaps a bit down from their previous level of wow. I thought Masset and Weathers pitched well, in particular.
- Speaking of Masset, his YTD ERA of 1.82 speaks for itself. His xERA of 0.92 ain't bad either.
- I was wondering if the Reds have a higher percentage of wins that result in saves for the bullpen than the rest of the league. The answer = not especially so (54% for the Reds, 52% for the NL).
- The defense continued at its high rate (.708 DER; 3rd best in NL, 4th best in ML), which raises the question: if the 2009 Reds, sans-Votto and with the recent stretch of poor pitching, still had the 2008-level defense, would my head explode or just melt?
The next 18:
- 9 games at home, 9 on the road
- Mercifully see an end to inter-league play with two against the Tribe.
- 6 of the 18 against divisional opponents
- 7 of the 18 against 2008 playoff teams
- .493 average winning percentage (2009) for the teams in the next 18 games.
- An all-star game. I imagine CoCo will get an all-expenses paid trip to St. Louis for his efforts. Maybe Cueto.
- Looking back, how do you evaluate the last stretch of games? Without their best player, rotation seemingly falling apart, their 2nd best player unable to shake his case of the Kingmans, 3rd baseman still on the shelf...was the 7-11 record good or bad, given the competition? How much does inter-league play contribute to the struggles?
- If I were GM: I think I would sit tight at least until the All Star break. Theoretically, I'm one hot week from being in first place, and Votto looks like he's good to go. If the rotation is really falling apart, I'm screwed anyway and won't be able to overcome it with any quick moves. Homer stays up at the MLB level for the remainder of the season, as a long man out of the pen if necessary. Dickerson is the new starting CF, per the memo I just wrote to the field manager. Hanigan keeps getting at-bats. Otherwise, I think we play out the next 3 weeks and re-evaluate.
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Comments
Well done as usual
I’d be OK with sitting tight for the next couple weeks, getting EdE back, and seeing where we are. On the other hand, if you are going to trade for someone, you might as well do it sooner so you get more production from whomever you get.
On the positive side, this team has historically sunk in June, if not before, and this month included a tough stretch of road games, and they are almost out of the month with a .500 record.
It does seem that defense is the unsung hero of the season so far. As much as we made fun of speed and defense in March, it seems to be what’s keeping this team afloat.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
by nycredsfan on Jun 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My mind is blown that we're only 2.5 games out of first
by Brendanukkah on Jun 29, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i tweeted this
Even though we’re only 2.5 games out, I feel like the season is over. Because now we’re at that point where we’re saying if if if if. Like if Edwin comes back and has an Edwin like year, if Bruce stops thinking too much and starts hitting like we know he can, if Volquez isn’t hurt worse than everyone expects, if the bullpen maintains its current greatness (and Lincoln stays hurt)…
But I think experience has taught us that you can’t have all of your ifs turn to whens. What if Votto has to leave again? What if Harang continues to give up all those homers or Arroyo’s hand finally falls off or Cueto gets hurt or Herrera, Roenicke, and Fisher finally realize they’re in the big leagues and have melt downs or Cordero has flashbacks of his days with the Rangers or Willy T continues to be afraid of the bases…
I change my mind about this all the time, but scoreboard watching isn’t fun when the team is hovering. I guess I just don’t want the disappointment again. It’s strange but sometimes I feel like I’d rather just be ten games back now instead of clinging to the increasingly irrational hope.
by Daedalus on Jun 29, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't lose the faith sister
you thought this team was special. Now you realize it is just like all the other teams. Maybe one day you will find that special team that will treat you right. I understand it’s hard now, but that team is out there. You just have to be patient and wait, you will find happiness.
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jun 29, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear the Yankees are looking for people to buy those expensive seats in The House That Jeter Built :)
"Don't let the brain interfere with the heart" -- Albert Einstein
by jch24 on Jun 29, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
noooo, you can't hurry love
no, you just have to wait EVERYBODY NOW!
you know love don’t come easy
oh never mind.
by bbjones on Jun 29, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Glass half full
of shit?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 29, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fecal slushie
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
George Carlin
by Madville on Jun 29, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea to keep Homer up for the rest of the season
The staff is showing signs of wear and I don’t think the constant up-and-down isn’t productive if they want him to build up his confidence against MLB hitting. The team could definitely use a swingman – sending down Fisher or Burton when Volquez is back.
Do you keep 13 pitchers though when someone like Drew Sutton could be called up and potentially be a good bench bat and fill-in until Ede returns?
I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 29, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edwin will be up this week
if not tomorrow night.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 29, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he able to come off the 60 day DL yet?
I didnt think he was eligible yet.
by CamIam on Jun 29, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was eligible on Saturday, I believe
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 29, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, so Richar gets the boot I assume
Seems like you send down Fisher or Burton too and get another bat in the process.
I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 29, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they could just keep Richar
And send down Burton.
I don’t think there’s anyone down in Scranton who’s a better bet than Richar right now.
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by BubbaFan on Jun 29, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scranton
You’re getting your wires crossed. I’d like to see what sutton can do.
I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 29, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MIxing Louisville with The Office or the Yankees org
I guess they need someone to play short, right? So it doesn’t make sense to bring up Sutton. The bigger problem is that one of our five outfielders is Willy Taveras. Shake him off and you’ve still got Hairston and room for a bench bat who might be able to get on base more than 30% of the time.
I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 29, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we pull Ryan Howard out of Scranton?
Bloop
by justin007000 on Jun 30, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I am feeling rec-creational today
"I lay my head on the railroad tracks, and wait for the double E"- Warren Zevon
by Colin Auscapee on Jun 30, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they'll want to start his clock
He’s not hitting that much better than Rosales, Richar, etc.
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by BubbaFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my mind
you never keep 13 pitchers.
by riverfront76 on Jun 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any ideas
On what the Reds “in the running” offer was for DeRosa? How true is it that they were one of the final three teams going for him?
I once defended the managerial styles of Jerry Narron after a Reds loss in a bar after a long night of drinking. I wish I could say that I don't remember doing that.
by chazerize on Jun 29, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought I Red (Fay maybe?) that the Reds were offering Roenicke and a PTBNL
The Tribe pulled the trigger with St. Louis, not necessarily because of Chris Perez, but because the Cardinals’ PTBNL list was better looking than Cincy’s. So, in other words, Cleveland wanted something the Reds weren’t willing to give up. I’m okay with that.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should be *read
I’m an idiot
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think I was a few words ahead of myself and they just happened to sound exactly the same.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wondered that, too
it made me happy to hear it though. walt must be trying.
how long do you think it will be before holliday is donning cincinnati red?
by Daedalus on Jun 29, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
by Daedalus on Jun 29, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You do it to yourself
You do, you and no one else.

"I lay my head on the railroad tracks, and wait for the double E"- Warren Zevon
by Colin Auscapee on Jun 29, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your favorite sports team does this to you
Imagine how your world will be rocked by the Bono-produced Spider-Man musical! Julie Taymor’s directing. Evan Rachel Wood will be Mary Jane Watson, and Alan Cumming is the Green Goblin. Bono and the Edge are writing the songs.
That’s a whole lotta, “uh….”
by Brendanukkah on Jun 29, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense Good, Offense Bad
The defense continued at its high rate (.708 DER; 3rd best in NL, 4th best in ML), which raises the question: if the 2009 Reds, sans-Votto and with the recent stretch of poor pitching, still had the 2008-level defense, would my head explode or just melt?
Heh – that line reminded me of the Dave Chappelle skit where the head of the Klan member explodes. I miss Chappelle.
Excellent review, as always.
by River Otter on Jun 29, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hal indicated in his column the other day that the Reds defense is middle of the pack
since their fielding % is in the middle. I like old school stats that really don’t tell you much
by timb116 on Jun 29, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong!
In this instance, the fielding percentage tells you all you need to know for the general analysis of their overall defensive play: they are NOT making plays on balls they should be handling. Pretty simple.
by Mr. Redlegs on Jun 30, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JinAZ
argues that the Reds defense is actually what’s carrying this team. The offense is terrible, the pitching is mediocre, but the defense is sterling.
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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2009 6:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, it tells you they are not making a high percentage of plays that they get to
BUT, they are getting to A LOT more balls than they used to. So, they are actually making A LOT more plays than an average team.
Fielding percentage only tells a small portion of the story on defense.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 30, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's because
Dunn and EE have been replaced. Everyone else is pretty much the same as last year, no?
"We're going to Adonis, son"
jch24
by obc2 on Jun 30, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn, Griffey, and Keppinger have been replaced
that’s the big change. 3B is slightly better, but not dramatically better. The other positions mentioned are in different worlds.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Jun 30, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile, in LOUISVILLE
Bat up 2-0, thanks to a Darnell double.
Adam Rosales, batting sixth, grounds out to end the inning.
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by BubbaFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's still got it.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Jun 29, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he singled in the 6th
Then Valaika doubled, and scored Rosy and Darnell.
Lehr’s in a bit of a jam now, though. He’s probably getting tired.
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by BubbaFan on Jun 29, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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