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In glorious retribution for 1917, the Royals soundly defeat the Reds



The tsarist Brian Bannister shut down the team of factory workers, peasants, and intellectuals from Cincinnati.  Moreover, he highlighted the fundamental flaw in the Bolsheviks' central tenet of "each according to his own ability."  Johnny Cueto pitched according to his ability, allowing no earned runs and striking out four, but Jerry Hairston also played according to his ability and committed two errors that led to five unearned runs.  The rest of the Reds offense has been assigned to the Winter Palace to take notes.  Assurances come down from Party Secretary Jocketty about a "five year plan."

Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Word of the Day

Morass.  Noun.  "A situation that traps, confuses or impedes."  Used in a sentence: It's hard to tell who on the Reds could suck morass.

Key Plays

  • I didn't watch this game either.  It was a beautiful day, so I went outside to take advantage of it.
  • I went to the Capital Pride street fair.  So, so gay.  There were booths there for lots of activist groups, and a number of sports clubs as well.  The Washington Nationals had a booth, and so did DC United.  Rookie Chris Pontius was inside, and he signed a poster for me.  I congratulated him on taking hard fouls last night that led to both United goals.  He looked unenthused to be there, and I am confident that the veterans made him go.  Didn't see any representation by the Redskins, Wizards, or Capitals though.  For shame!
  • Eating a long Italian sausage in front of a booth where buff underwear models sit in a dunk tank kind of gets you in the swing of things.  But $15 for a sausage and Pepsi?  I rescind all my support for equal rights!
  • Then I went to see "Up."  Fantastic movie.  I sniffled a little.  And in the spirit of the day, I took satisfaction in the fact that the movie had a female character named Kevin.
  • Pride street fairs and crying at children's movies is all well and good, but the gayest thing I did today was spend five minutes in Bed, Bath & Beyond.

Other Notes

  • Brian Bannister is 3-0 with a 0.90 ERA in three afternoon starts this season. He is 15-4 in 26 career day games, as opposed to 13-25 in night games.
  • Two errors for Cherry.  "I don't know if I could have a worser day," Hairston said.  Three errors, then.
  • This was the first three game sweep for the Royals since Sept. 22-24.

  • Final - 6.14.2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 RHE
    Cincinnati Reds 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 2
    Kansas City Royals 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 2 X 7 9 1
    WP: Brian Bannister (5 - 3)
    LP: Johnny Cueto (6 - 4)

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i envy you

i wasted my entire day watching this stillborn team.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 14, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I deleted the Twitter app from my Facebook page, because people were complaining I post about the Reds too much

of course, as soon as I do that, leave it to the team to no longer give me a reason to post about them save for “aw FUCK”

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Jun 14, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

All my friends are giving thumbs-down to “Up.”

Who was in the Nationals booth?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I’ve heard nothing but good things about it. That it was good, not fantastic.

What didn’t they like?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They said it was uneven

And perhaps, like Homer Bailey, it was a victim of high expectations.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 15, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never saw Cars, so that might be an exception

But really, when are you ever – EVER – getting a bad product from Pixar?

by Brendanukkah on Jun 15, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screech, the eagle mascot

No players, nor any of the presidents. Although apparently Manny Acta will be out on the street sometime this week.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 14, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all thumbs ups to "Up" that I've heard

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 15, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's play the i bet walt makes a move tomorrow game

fay tried to spread the rumor that votto’d be back on tuesday. guess that didn’t catch fire.

will he or won’t he.

by Daedalus on Jun 14, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No moves.

And Votto won’t be back, either.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if it'll be Votto

But I think we’re in for some big changes. Like Drew Stubbs big. (I hope.)

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jun 14, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya think the kid is ready?

i think we brought Bruce up a little too soon and it has stunted his development.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 15, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping you came up with that nickname on your own

Because that’s what all the United fans are calling him too. I even saw a Pontius jersey at the game that said “Party.”

by Brendanukkah on Jun 14, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched the game.

It was a sickening waste of time. I could hear George Grande as the Reds made the last out . . . “Brian Bannister was the story today, wasn’t he J.D.?”

by Brian B on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny how all of the starting pitchers over the last six games are the story

Yes, all of these whodats and mediocrities are all of a sudden pitching the games of their lives. I wonder if one thing is linking them? Oh yes, they’re all facing our putrid offense. Might that be a story, Gigi?

by Brendanukkah on Jun 14, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, at least Joe Posnanski will be happy

I can see his Banny Log now:

“It doesn’t matter how many fastballs up you throw or how much movement you get. Its about how often you get to face the Reds”

by Cy Schourek on Jun 15, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Something bad"

That’s how mad I am.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Jun 14, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I loved it.

I was talking about the Reds play as of late.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Jun 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals lose, and somehow we're still in this thing.

Not doing anything to fix this team is foolish, ‘cause we’re not going anywhere but down, and the Cardinals, Brewers, and Cubs (who actually won today) aren’t going to keep on losing forever just to keep us in the thick of things.

But hey, it’s “worked” so far, right Walt? Right? RIGHT? …Meh.

"Sir, can you please put your pants back on?"

by Ash on Jun 14, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walt can't hear you, he's waiting for this Worldwide Web fad to pass

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jun 14, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Votto

What is his problem? I know the team is calling it some anxiety thing, which could still be a side effect of the ear infection. In fact, my co-worker who just had an inner ear infection a couple weeks before Votto said he still gets flare ups, so he thinks it’s still the infection bothering him.

Then there’s the crazy shit out there. I read the following today…

1. Some idiot said that some Cincy radio station (could find the one) said that Votto was gay…ummm ok.
2. Another idiot on cbssports in the commenting said he heard that Votto was going deaf.

Shit like this makes me wish the team wouldn’t be as secretive, so people don’t go crazy with likely bullshit theories.

"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.

by cesarhernandez on Jun 14, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ahhh ... i got a laugh out of that one

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Jun 15, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed... rec'd

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Jun 15, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mo Egger was talking about that

OVER AND OVER AND OVER

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Jun 14, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mo Egger

is a waste. That clown still has a job?

"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.

by cesarhernandez on Jun 14, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

disagree wholeheartedly

Mo is good people and he’s more entertaining than most of the drivel on local radio.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 15, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And what alleged evidence

does Mo Egger have to support his claim?

"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.

by cesarhernandez on Jun 14, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

Mo was saying that he didn’t CARE what was wrong with Joey Votto and it was no one’s business and he wasn’t going to discuss it.

And then he spent ten minutes discussing how he wasn’t going to talk about it.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Jun 14, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's up to the team

It’s those new rules about medical confidentiality. If Joey doesn’t want his medical condition discussed, the team can’t talk about it.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 15, 2009 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am tired of the Reds FO and Dusty lying to us, and more importantly THEMSELVES!

I think it is disgusting for these “baseball guys” we have in the organization to continue to look past the stats and think that we have a good defensive team, enough hitting to actually cover up our defensive woes, and if we are going to suck, no matter what the rest of the central is doing, then why ruin our pitchers arms?

AGonz and Taveras are the epitome of our problems.
Gonzalez should have had that double play ball in the second inning of game 2 vs the Royals. Bronson sucks (I’ll get to him later) but if Gonzo was this amazing defender he is being made out to be by Dusty and the boys then he eats that up, changing the entire dynamic of the game! The guy is terrible at covering ground, Keppinger-esque to be exact, and thats no exaggeration.
On top of this, Taveras was supposed to be an upgrade in center. GIVE ME PATTERSON! Once again, not an exaggeration. Taveras’ arm is awful, the guy doesn’t get on base, and he doesn’t give us anything else. CUT HIM.
With these guys defensive woes they are also terrible at the plate. It’d be one thing if they showed some penchant for hitting, but no, they suck.

So the current fix is to move on:
Janish should move into SS. Let him be a hoover at the 6. Yeah he can’t hit, but he will save us runs on D.

Then we need to start going through the progression in CF. First guy is Dickerson, give it to him until he spits it out. Then stick Gomes and Nix in LF with Bruce in RF and Cherry spelling them. If CDick does spit it out, which I don’t think he will, we move on to Stubbs.

Then we need to add a few position players. Hernandez can’t be our starting 1B. So hopefully these idiots in the organization know some of the truth on Votto, and EdE for that matter, and see if we need to move on to some degree, according to our positional depth.

Guys I’d target would be cheap. I’d look for Laynce Nix/Brandon Phillips types and keep cycling and trading PTBNL for them right and left. High upside guys who maybe just need another chance. I’d start with 3B Andy Marte in Cle, SS DeJesus and Chin-lung Hu in LAD, the LAA’s entire inf, mainly SS Erick Aybar, SS Macier Izturis, and even SS/3B Brandon Wood, if they have indeed soured on him (Yeah yeah, itll take more than a ptbnl to get some of these guys, but its worth a shot).

The last thing to do is to look into trading some of our pitching. Im not talking our top notch guys (Volquez, Cueto, Bailey, and yes I still include Harang). However, I would be selling, after his next solid start, on Bronson. He is making way too much money to be so replaceable. In the past I’ve felt Arroyo can be a luxury as a 4th starter, but I never though the Reds would have the pitching depth they have. Lets face it, we don’t need him any more. I would also look into what I’d get for Maloney, try to sell high, but I would gladly keep him if I’m not given a favorable deal by a pitching starved organization.

My last thought. Lets not sell out our organizational depth and our SP’s arms for this season! I know we are hanging around, but I want to have a team that competes for the division every year, not just ‘09. Volquez being injured scares me. I don’t care if its his baby toe or his UCL in his elbow hurting him, we need to handle with care. Same with our other big guys. Keeping their innings down would also give us a shot to give Homer a prolonged look as well as Maloney and anyone else who earns a spot (Maybe Massett back in the rotation?). We need to do the same with position players as well. If Yonder keeps moving up through the ranks, we need to figure out if he or Votto can change positions. (No Yonder in the MLB this year, don’t want the clock ticking.) The same goes with Frazier, EdE, and other Corner Infielders in our organization.

If you made it this far, thanks for reading… I could probably keep going for hours but I’ll just stop.

by kennythered on Jun 15, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh yeah,

And what about dealing Cordero if we fall out of the race? 12 million for a closer is probably not good budgeting by the Reds.

by kennythered on Jun 15, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deal Cordero and Arroyo, if you can

Deal Gonzalez if you can. There are teams looking for a SS out there, and Gonzo only has this year remaining on his guaranteed contract, with next year being an option that can be declined.

Bring up Heisey and stick him in LF. Bring up Frazier and stick him on 3B. Bring up Cozart and stick him at SS. When or if any of them fail, send them back down.

If you deal Arroyo, stick Maloney in the rotation. He’s a LH version of Bronson anyway, and alot cheaper.

I mean, let’s face it, this organization had no answer for LF, CF, and SS going into this season. They weren’t even sure Gonzo could play this year. How pathetic is management?

by Dude Rock on Jun 15, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think management is pathetic

I think that given the economy and the state of the team, they knew going in to the year that they weren’t really going to contend, and one more free agent bat wasn’t going to make a difference.

Since they clearly aren’t going to contend, though, I agree totally that now is the time to bring up some youth and see what they can do. Try to trade Gonzo for whatever you can get, DFA or trade Taveras (why the hell did he get a 2 year contract?!?) and trade Arroyo. Bring up Cozart, Frazier, and Stubbs (I want to see Heisey do something in AAA for a few weeks first…..he wasn’t even really a prospect before this year.) Later in the year bring up Heisey for LF and let the kids play.

I posted something similar yesterday…..It’ll never happen, but it would make this season much more exciting.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Jun 15, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think people

are trying to rush Cozart. He skipped a level this year and has never had a great bat. I think he needs to spend the whole year in AA and then at least part of next in AAA. What we really need to do is play Janish at short and hope Valiaka can come back at full strength for a September call up.

by CamIam on Jun 15, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conversely, I'm not sure what the hesitation is in bringing up Stubbs

He’s been in the minors a good long time, he’s 24. I think he’s shown that he can handle AAA, and I’m more than happy to give him a shot at the bigs.

And this is where I point out that the guy we passed on to take Stubbs already has a Cy Young award.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 15, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

obc'd

But I agree. I’d be willing to throw down any amount of money that Stubbs can produce better than Willy can in CF right now, and if you’re serious about winning, he’s the guy you have to play.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jun 15, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he doesn't tear it up

and I’m pretty confident he won’t this year, he has to be a better option than Taveras. His defense will be better, he’ll get on base a bunch, and he’ll steal more bases too.

I actually agree that Cozart probably isn’t ready, I’m just playing GM in my head. And since Janish is AWOL I’d love to see anyone other than SeaBass

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Jun 15, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think

Janish would give you more at the plate at this point and he is already on the 40 man roster. I dont think we will see Cozart this year and I would say that is the right decision. If we dont see Stubbs and Frazier by the end of the year I will be concerned.

by CamIam on Jun 15, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this team more than three games out from first place?

I mean, gee, maybe we should wait to toss the towel in to see if we could actually, you know, win THIS year. The pitching will keep this team in games all year long. Management, aka Uncle Walt, knew this team would be offensively challenged this year, but offense is arguable the cheapest thing to acquire. Alonso was drafted as trade bait. There are plenty of no glove mashers in the farm system and some pitching. If the Reds are this close in July then expect a move.

There’s plenty of time to panic (like about two months worth of it). Can’t we all just enjoy this team being .500 after a slump?

by timb116 on Jun 15, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but 6 games against the Nats and Royals should've brought them into first

the schedule isn’t gonna give them that kind of opportunity again.

by Cy Schourek on Jun 15, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Late July and into August is when we'll know if the Reds can win more than 85 games.

7/27-8/5: SD, COL and CHI at home
8/7-7/12: @SF and @ STL
7/13-8/20: WAS and SF at home
8/21-8/23: @PIT

So if they’re ~.500 when the Padres come to town and then can do something with that run through the NL’s weak-ass gauntlet and then take two of three from the Brewers… then the schedule-makers may have done them another favor.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jun 15, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In CWS action...

Leake didn’t start today, but Fleury played for UNC (who lost, 5-2 in 10 innings). He went 0 for 3 with a walk, a sacrifice bunt, and a strikeout. He also seems to have made an error, but I don’t know what that was.

Alex White threw 131 pitches over nine innings for the Tar Heels, striking out 12 while allowing 7 hits and walking 3. But he allowed one run in the second inning, so the game was tied when he left. See? That guy would have been ready to join the Reds!

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 15, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i saw the end of the game

and Fleury struck out big time in the bottom of the 10th. the Heels didnt have much of a chance down 5-1 going into the inning, but they had kind of a rally starting up.

i dont know what happened to Leake. my guess is the coach just started the other guy instead, saving Leake for later. the other guy turned out ok though.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 15, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see it either

but my understanding was UNC has a lefty dominated lineup so they started Spence who’s a lefty. Since they won I imagine we’ll see Leake next.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on Jun 15, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The offense needs someone

I don’t care who it is. Geoff Jenkins is a free agent. He is probably a better hitter than most people on our team right now.

by fifawcs on Jun 15, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A pat on the butt for you, 'Nukkah.

I’m sure the ladies appreciate your support. Next year, try really stepping out of your comfort zone.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jun 15, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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