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Game 60 Thread: Reds at Royals

Cincinnati Reds at Kansas City Royals, Jun 12, 2009 8:10 PM EDT



Next Game

Cincinnati Reds
@ Kansas City Royals

Friday, Jun 12, 2009, 8:10 PM EDT
Kauffman Stadium

Matt Maloney vs Luke Hochevar

Partly cloudy,rain. Game time temperature around 75.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Matt Maloney 0-0 3.00 1.17 4 1



W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Luke Hochevar 1-2 7.85 1.64 6 9


The Reds make their first trip into Kansas City since 1999 when the swept the three game series, outscoring the Royals 30-11.  Much like the team in DC that the Reds just faced, the Royals are struggling of late.  They've won just twice in their last 13 games, surrendering nearly 6 runs per game in that span while scoring just over 3 a game.  As an added bonus, their ace Zack Greinke just pitched last night so the Reds will miss him during the series.  This is another case where a playoff caliber team who is taking care of business will sweep or at least win 2 out of 3 in this series.  Anything less will be considered a failure.

On the mound for the Royals today is right-hander, and former #1 overall pick, Luke Hochevar.  Because of his draft prominence, Hochevar was rushed to the big leagues in just over a year after being drafted by the Royals.  He pitched well in 4 outings in 2007, but struggled last year to the tune of a 5.51 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP.  This season he started the year in AAA where he was 5-1 with a 1.50 ERA, but since getting the call to the bigs in early May, he's been pretty bad, allowing 30 base runners in 18 innings, including 9 walks while striking out just 6 batters.  He has shown some improvement over his last couple of starts though, including his last outing where he allowed just 4 hits and 2 runs over 6.2 innings against the Blue Jays.  And one can help but figure that the Reds offense will continue to be a cure for what ails him.

Mike Maloney is set to make his second career start for the Reds after throwing a strong 6 innings in his debut last weekend.  The Royals aren't particularly adept at hitting the ball, but they do appear to have a slight bit more success against lefties than righties.  In particular, Maloney should keep an eye on Billy Butler, who sports a .965 career OPS against left-handed pitching, including 16 of his 23 career home runs.

Game time is 8:10 ET.  There is a chance for rain again tonight, so get your umbrellas and parkas ready.

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All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 12, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The intimidating lineup, via Fya:

Willy Taveras 8
Alex Gonzalez 6
Brandon Phillips 4
Laynce Nix 7
Ramon Hernandez 3
Jay Bruce 9
Jonny Gomes DH
Ryan Hanigan 2
Adam Rosales 5
Matt Maloney 1

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess going hitless in the two hole really straightened Taveras out

Nice to see him back leading off! Hopefully he can get his first hit of June.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zing

Way to play the ‘grown men who look like lesbians’ card.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Rob Thomas still making music?

God it’s great being incredibly out of the loop sometimes.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

The last thing I remember him doing was that ‘How Far We’ve Come’ song that College GameDay blared throughout the 2007 CFB season.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Christ,

Don’t get me started on that.

Best GameDay sign at 2005 OSU/Texas game:

Ohio HATES Big N Rich Go Fuck Yourselves

It was confiscated.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Were they there or something?

I went along with my family to the Macy’s Christmas tree lighting in Atlanta (which is in a freaking PARKING LOT in the suburbs now) a couple of years ago, and they were somehow the headliners.

It was kind of uncomfortable, at a family event with tons of kids, to hear them sing “Save a horse, ride a cowboy.” I mean, those are basically all the words to the song, right? Over and over again…

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, College GameDay uses Big N Rich's 'Comin to Your City'

as its opening theme. Only — to make it more shitty — they substitute college towns (Columbus, Baton Rouge, Stillwater, etc.) and stadiums/landmarks (The Big House, Happy Valley, The Tiger Walk) for places that they’re ‘going’ to. It’s just atrocious. Worst opening theme — it started in 2005. In 2004, Bubba Sparxx opened the show and, somehow, Big N Rich is worse than FUCKING Bubba Sparxx.

I think most of the hatred comes from the fact that the ESPN instrumental college football theme sends chills down the back of CFB fans and instead of using that, they use god damned Big N Rich.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really liked that Bubba Sparxxx song, though

Bubba has a few good ones, and how can you not like a rapper named Bubba?

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

/Bubba Fan'd

But in all sincerity, FUCK Big N Rich

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you've fucked Bubba Sparxxx?

Does he live up to that “XXX” at the end of his name?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 12, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a low point in my life and I needed the money

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zing

Though, at that game, Justin fucking Zwick blew it.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just for s&g, everyone sorted by OBP:

Joey Votto .464
Ryan Hanigan .407
Jonny Gomes .389
Chris Dickerson .370
Paul Janish .353
Brandon Phillips .347
Ramon Hernandez .327
Laynce Nix .324
Adam Rosales .309
Jay Bruce .304
Jerry Hairston .302
Willy Taveras .294
Alex Gonzalez .266

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

That’s pretty shitty.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our two leadoff guys are averaging a .298 OBP

That’s… that’s not good.

And Sea Bass in the 2 hole isn’t cracking .270. How the hell have we scored any runs?

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Errors, the occasional home run, HAVOC, walks and

BLIND FUCKING LUCK

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gonzalez isn't even fast...

If anything, Hanigan should be batting second.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

100 percent Agreed

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 12, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey Gray (or anyone else who knows) as the resident Canadian

what do you know about visiting Nova Scotia/Newfoundland/those environs? I’m going in a couple weeks, and I coudl really use any tips whatsoever.

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Canadian experience is limited to Ontario and Quebec...

though I have heard great things about the welfare provinces. Where are you going?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

beats me

I have to plan a vacation for me and Sis Schourek. The only thing I know for certain is that we’ll whale watch and we’re staying at a B&B with Alapacas everywhere.

Probably also renting a car, probably also going to newfoundland to check out some icebergs, but I really have no clue whatsover what I’m getting into.

I’m also about to pick up a pizza, so brbs

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, that b&b is in BC.

Which is kind of nowhere near Newfoundland…

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its only across the continent....

I would like to go to newfoundland / labrador someday as well…

looks pretty cool !

Photobucket

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But unlike BC...

possession hasn’t been decriminalized there.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tip

they don’t tip

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Jun 12, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe andromache took a trip to Skosh

Really liked it. And my co-worker’s husband is from there, so I’ll see what I can find out there.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-Gon in the 2-hole

Dusty’s world is as it should be, at last.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 12, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

am I the only one that didn't see Cincy listed in the NL probables in the paper,

then assumed they had an off day? Am I the only one younger than 50 who did that?

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This lineup sucks, but it's really just a question

of Janish/Hairston over Gonzalez and/or Rosales — a Sophie’s choice.

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So what should I drink?

I still have a TON of beer in my fridge.

Yuengling black&tan
Weiehenstephaner Hefeweissbier
Ommegang Three Philosophers
Weyerbacher Heresy
Unibroue Blanche de Chambly
Fat Tire Mothership Wit

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, Fat Tire isn't the brewery...

I always get that mixed up. The brewery is New Belgium.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh. Willy Taveras as the Designated Out.

cumb’d

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good luck getting them to respond to your e-mail.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

Honestly, that’s the reason I don’t have a subscription to MLB.TV or MiLB.TV this year. I just couldn’t deal with their customer “service.”

I e-mailed once and called twice, and they still auto-renewed me. At a cost of $129. Not a trivial amount.

Never mind all the other nightmares I’ve had with them…

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 12, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who is this Mike Maloney Character?

this is the only pic I could find…of an athlete with that name

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...

that’s not his name.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to Slyde:

Mike Maloney is set to make his second career start for the Reds after throwing a strong 6 innings in his debut last weekend.

Just kiddin’ – I know that he meant MATT Maloney

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While I'm kidding around here's the 1960's Band of the Game

From South Florida

THE AVENGERS
The drummer has a killer kit…

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody know what's up with Cherry?

I can’t understand how Dusty could start Rosy over Cherry. And if Cherry’s hurt/sick it seems more than obvious that Jannish needs a shot at playing over Rosales…

And not to drive it into the ground but why is Wily leading off?

Oh Well – Go Reds

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im off the Rosie bandwagon

its time has come and gone.

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not a horrible fill-in/bench player

but he’s less useful even in that role than Janish. And he’s not being used in that role…

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too...I like the kid but...

he ain’t cuttin’ now…watch him go 3 for 3 and knock in a run or two and amke a spectacular defensive play now…

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taveras drops a bunt on the first pitch...

out, of course.

“The Reds need him to do this more often” says the announcer.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least!

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 pitches...

2 outs.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4 pitches

3 outs.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for the love of...

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're certainly make it hard on him.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great first inning

it was at least three minutes long

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two minutes in heaven

is better than one minute in heaven.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twice as good!

Two minutes in Kansas City, however…

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

46 ABs for Janish this year... is there an as-seldom-used

player in the majors who has been on the roster from Opening day and healthy?

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, these fuckers are never going to learn anything are they?

It’s Blank Slate with Dusty and Co.

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't mind T-Virus' bunt

He gotta do something to get on base and he’s sure not hitting…and it will make the defense think about it next time he’s up.

Looks like the batting strategy is to swing early and swing often

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crunch crunch crunch

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is not a team that is great at coming back.

That’s for certain.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

423 feet

ouch

Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maloney's just trying to raise money for cancer research...

that’s $13,000, right?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals get a homer?

I’m at work and my computer is so shitty, I can’t even use Gameday.

by Who's on First? on Jun 12, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

big homer

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it was no GABP line drive HR.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Guillen is still playing?

Huh.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hats off to Brad Kullman

guillen for Harang was one of the best trades in reds history

Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 pitches vs. 24 pitches

do you think anyone (besides us) ever points this out to the batters or pitchers?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's your point?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's bunt some more!!!!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 more...

Jesus.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Maloney looks Ok today

Made a mistake, threw a lot of pitches but he’s good some good stuff. Kids going to be alright.
No lets get some LaynceNixDanceShit going.

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

7-9 in this lineup looks pretty good

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dusty stupidly told everyone to be agressive out there

to get out of the slump didn’t he?

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh huh

Dusty "Come on guys lets Swing Early,Swing Often and Swing Hard.’

He wasn’t referring to Count Basie either

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's longest hitless draught ever??

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How many pitches does that make it for Hochevar?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

11

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good lord.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man...City of God > this Reds game

and I mean the Brazilian movie, although St. Augustine is cool too.

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, how many runs do we score tonight?

over/under = 2

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

under

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

over..

optimist’d

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Hochevar guy is throwing a perfect game!

and Maloney has 4 Ks so far, BTW.

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

40 pitches for Maloney

vs. 11 for Hochevar. Highty tighty, Christ almighty!

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gomes is in the Game so i gotta estimate we score 4

GoJo

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by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

madvill'd

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably shouldn't have admired that, gomesy.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Longest hitless streak by non-pitcher

Don Gile 0-34 in 1962 (0-37 over two seasons)

Where is Tha Virus?

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

0-25

Well, 0-26 now.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure as soon as I posit this idea he'll get a hit

but can we get a “Chase for 34” counter somewhere?

Maybe I’ll just keep a private vigil

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It has my full support

Though that record should probably be verified… was the result on inexhaustive internet research

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about this?

On July 29, 1909 William Aloysius “Bill” Bergen stepped up to bat for the Brooklyn Dodgers and got a hit, his last before setting the record for the longest hitless streak for a position player ever.

Bill Bergen’s next hit would not come until July 17, 1909, setting the streak at 46 at bats without a hit.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like it should be liveball era only

or possibly even Retrosheet Era

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if that's what you meant...

but more from wikipedia about this guy:

Bergen’s claim to fame is his complete inability to hit. The question of who was the worst hitter of all time is obviously a subjective one, but what is known is that no one played as long as Bill Bergen and hit so poorly. Bergen had 3,028 at-bats in his career, and in that time he compiled a batting average of .170, the all-time record low for players who compiled more than 2,500 at-bats. Davy Force is second-to-last with a career average of .211. Bergen’s career on-base percentage was .194 — he is the only player with at least 500 at-bats with an OBP under .200. He had only two home runs. In 1909, Bergen hit .139, the lowest average ever for a player who qualified for the batting title. That season, he set another record for futility by going 46 at-bats in a row without a base hit, the longest streak ever by a position player (pitcher Bob Buhl went 88 at-bats without a hit).

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

I enjoy turn-of-the-century sports oddities – like the Olympics referenced on FJM. Taveras is more than halfway to Bergen’s mark. My standard would be non-position player in liveball era, but anything over 0-30 is historically terrible.

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't notice the last line of that paragraph
From 1904 to 1911, Dodger pitchers as a group outhit Bergen, .169 to .162.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have they decided on a pronunciation

of Hochevar yet?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Taveras:

You suck.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

obvious'd

man, I forgot how awesome Benny is in this movie.

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, he's really fast, and can steal lots of bases, and cause all kinds of problems for the other defense.

you’ll see.

any day now

it’s about to happen

soon…

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you Rosales

and Fuck this two pitch rule

and Fuck you Taveras

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That kind of had an Alan ginsburg prose poem rythm to it

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You bet your ass

I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just glad Willy will get as many PAs

as anyone tonight.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How can they play a game

with seagulls sitting in the outfield?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not a problem

they’ll get out of the way if ….

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was a huge flock of gulls

In the Cleveland outfield when the Yanks played there.

Lotsa food in ballparks. Gulls love it.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 12, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they were showing the game-ending play of the KC at Cleveland game

when someone hit a ball right into a flock sitting in the outfield. Crisp lost it when all of the gulls took off and the game was over.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's crazy.

And they just keep on playing like nothing happened?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was a walkoff hit

coco might have had a play at the plate. i’ve seen it four times and i still dont see the ball hit the bird. the bird wasnt affected and flew away.

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by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cleveland Plain-Dealer

said the bird was stunned for a while then flew away. I haven’t seen a video, though

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN showed it a lot.

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even still, I'm amazed that they played with the birds on the field.

In most parks, they’ll stop a game when a plastic bag blows onto the field.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they'd never get the game in if they waited for the birds to clear out

The Pirates’ spring training field gets a lot of gulls. They know when people start leaving, and just swarm the ballpark in the 8th inning.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 12, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching hockey

Sounds like its much better than the Reds tonight

"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.

by cesarhernandez on Jun 12, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's the series looking like over there?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game 7 tonight

Winner takes the best trophy in all of sports.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also its

the best trophy presentation ceremony in all of sport

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by cesarhernandez on Jun 12, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Game 7

in Detroit. ’Nuff said…

"Tigers love pepper...they hate cinnamon.

by cesarhernandez on Jun 12, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So,

this is really that Greinke guy, right?

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to believe

that we’ll never see him again after Votto comes back.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hanigan - you are nails

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

19 pitches vs. 54 pitches!!!!

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AFLAC

dumatrait. livingston. and…..

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Claussen?

I don’t even know the question

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure its the pickle man

Keisler was gone by then, right?

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he wasnt there two years ago was he?

and milton didnt do it, he was DL his final year, right?

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap, Alex took some pitches!

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hanigan has a legit shot at ROY if he keeps this shitup

Wonder if Joey would consider coming back as the LF?

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by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah, we'll never try that.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4-pitch walk

Hochevar is done – put a fork in him!

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah

he’ll have three outs in four more pitches.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GIBP time.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for some reason, he was playing near second...

so no GIBP.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hfs

so many dudes on base

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hfs?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy fucking shit

gotta be on point with your acronyms to survive on the internet.

by Cy Schourek on Jun 12, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking hierarchical file system

but figured that wasn’t it…

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'd be awesome if Yonder was somehow MLB ready

and we could have Hanigan-Votto-Alonso 2-3-4

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 12, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's nowhere close

he’s struggling in AA.

Justin Smoak’d

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Hanigan could never hit second!

Dude, he’s a catcher.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont want hanigan hitting second

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd put CDick there before Ryan

Second verse same as the first. This lineup has major holes all ovah the place.

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, sure.

But if CDick isn’t in and Hanigan is, he’s not the worst choice.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

i dont see Ryan as a plus bat but he might be able to pull off a Jason Kendall circa late aughts performance.

did i mention i hate this lineup?

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3why is he not in the line-up tonight?

huh, Dusty?

Huh?

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he's not our center fielder.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because...?

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he performed very well vs the Cubs last weekend

then……poof! disappear.

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's with Janish.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No fucking kidding

Hitting with RISP just has to do with hitting in general!

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GIRH

ass

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There is none more valuable.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nix smacked the ball but DeJesus was right there

At some point some of these harder hit balls will start to fall…Hitting, I really believe is contagious – come on back joey Votto

Sweat plus sacrifice equals another useless out. Mads

by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice at bat

i agree. bloops fall in and line drives get caught. shit happens.

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Day, the whitest guy in the park...

is the one assigned to go to the Negro League HoF?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats racist

Photobucket

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck O'Neill

man, i wish he’d made it to Cooperstown in his lifetime. what a joke… talk about lifetime achievement!

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Double hernias?

That sounds really painful.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

70 vs. 29.

Wow.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, aside from leaving that change up right where it shouldn't have been...

he’s been a little wild but not bad otherwise.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's kinda Andy Petitte-ish

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed..this kid has a chance to become a real pitcher...I hope he stays up and gets to work on his game at the MLB level

Hey gang, looking at the crowd behind the plate there in Kansas City makes me think that there si a very limited gene pool in that part of the country…

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by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMES!

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and its tied

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im gonna say it

anyone else remember the early 80’s reds lineups, pre-Pete Rose managing?

thank gawd for the starting pitching…

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Except in KC

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if I see a pretty hat, I'll put it on my head tonight

so we’ll hit and hit and hit and hit and hit and hit and fight!

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Jun 12, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stats

so why do RH hitters hit RHP better than LH hitters hit LHP?

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe because they have to.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good a reason as any!

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still fine with platooning Nix and Gomes

Dickerson in center, Bruce in right. I could be fine with that outfield.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i concur

"We're going to Adonis, son"

jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunn'd

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kerplunk

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1-0 Pens

Midway through the 2nd period.

by jsl413 on Jun 12, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't really want them to win

But I’d prefer it to back-to-back Detroit victories.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So as I was saying earlier...4 runs - Gomes is in the line up

Love to see Nix in CF, Bruce in Gomes in LF Hernia 3B, Gonzo SS, BP 2B JV at 1B,Haniganman C
 - might lose a little defense but we’d actually have a MLB offensive line up

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by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Janish is Mark Belanger

a nice SS on an offensive team…not so much when there are holes at 3B, 1B, LF, CF.

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pasta diving sea bass

ruh row

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good hands by BP

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and a smart fake throw to first by AGon

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

crap

nice hitting by the Royals. BP catches that if he isnt covering on the SB attempt.

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Penguins up 2-0

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

woooo!

only pittsburgh team i like

by jsl413 on Jun 12, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loathe all Pittsburgh teams

and I live in NW PA!

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where you at?

I have a friend in Kulpmont.

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by jch24 on Jun 12, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a play!

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BP awesome!

nice athleticism.

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jch24

by obc2 on Jun 12, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big swing from BP there.

HR coming up?

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WRONG.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

both of them!

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

9-pitch inning

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

53 pitches through six innings

An average of 8.83 pitches per inning.

Just… .wow.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theoretically he could

But everyone else sucks too much to get him back to the plate.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I deal in reality

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wheels fell off...

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GD says Teahan stole 2nd on a pick-off attempt.

true?

is he that fat?

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by gejoe on Jun 12, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

true...

ramon with a bad throw to second

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by nlt-andrew68 on Jun 12, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although

the throw over from Maloney was so slow that he didn’t have much time to get the runner.

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by Gray on Jun 12, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit

There but for Last Gasp Callaspo.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 12, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus - I step out to visit D#1 and come back to a losing scenario

Damn Mike Maloney I want you to become a good #3 -4 starter…now we’ll actually have to have more than Gomes hit the ball.

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by Madville on Jun 12, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4 hr's in 2 starts for Maloney

9 baserunners in 6 innings. Bleh. Sounds like to me when batters figure out his stuff, he is very weak.

I am looking toward Stewart the sinker and Wood the changeup man as guys who can fill rotation holes.

Maloney just doesn’ t do it for me and Bailey just flat sucks as a finesse pitcher.

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