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Random Thoughts 5/7/09

Arroyoooooooo.....nooooooooooo.....

The Reds starter was screwed, booed, tatooed and barbecued last night by the Brewers.  There isn't really anything else to say.  These things happen.  The great thing about baseball is that you get to come back the next day and do it all over again.  The Reds need a win tonight to get some momentum heading into the big weekend against the Cardinals.

Aaron Boone was back in the Astros clubhouse, just six weeks removed from having open heart surgery. He said that he has not ruled out playing again. I always loved Boone and hated seeing him leave Cincinnati. I wish him nothing but the best.

As a whole, the Reds pitching staff has been great this year. Going into Wednesday, they led the Major Leagues with a 3.61 earned run average. Pitching coach Dick Pole's words of wisdom..."I am just trying to stay the heck away."

I understand not wanting to send Alex Gonzalez to the disabled list if you don't absolutely have to, but something needs to be done. You can't go into the Cardinals series with 24 players, especially if you might need your backup shortstop to pitch the ninth.

I have been ranting about the pitch-tipping allegations against Alex Rodriguez since the information was first leaked. It seems the Major League Baseball is now going to take a look.

I highly recommend watching this video about pitch-tipping. Harold Reynolds, Barry Larkin and John Hart really give great insight to what goes on around the infield before a pitch is thrown. I love this stuff about baseball. Ninety-five percent of the people at a ballpark have no idea that kind of stuff is going on.

I also loved the quotes from David Ortiz and Tony LaRussa about the possibility of A-Rod tipping pitches. Ortiz affectionately said, "I would beat the crap out of him." The Cardinals manager obviously had football on his mind, saying, "I would be punting him through the end zone."

If they were told the game was cancelled, of course they should have been let back into the stadium. But how can they prove it? Bad situation...

I like the show, but is this for real?

Maybe if this guy was reading SB Nation, they would have given him a pass.

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So, before we were worried about Arroyo pitching day games...

but maybe this year he’s been partying too much in Cincinnati. I’m not sure how he would do that, but his splits are horrendous so far.

He’s had three starts at home, and given up 5 runs in 6 innings, 9 runs in 5.2, and 9 runs in one inning. In his three away starts, he’s given up one run in six and a third, 3 runs in seven, and zero runs in eight innings.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 7, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

To relate this to that measure of consistency

posted a few days ago:

Arroyo’s mean game score this year is 39.8, and his standard deviation is a ridiculous 27.7. But this is due pretty much entirely to his three home starts (38, 17, 0) vs. his three away starts (60, 49, 75). All three home starts are below his mean (and declining), while all three away starts are well above the mean.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 7, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it possible to have a negative game score?

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 7, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

He happened to reach exactly 0.

50 (starting value) + 3 for one inning pitched – 14 for 7 hits – 36 for 9 earned runs – 3 for a walk.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 7, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

They can prove it

Because they had their tickets.

Sure, there could be some shenanigans, but really…the game is starting 2-1/2 hours late, and it’s a rainy weeknight. There were plenty of empty seats.

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by BubbaFan on May 7, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

What's the reason for not letting them back in?

Drunkenness? Passing off tickets to others?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 7, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

they're worried about passing tickets to others

And also, drinking cheap booze out in the parking lot rather than buying $10 beers in the Stadium.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 7, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prove it?

If the ticket says you can’t leave and come back, then that’s it. Rules are rules. If they were told the game was cancelled, then that is a different story.

Russ

by wight4256 on May 7, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

And they were...

so it is.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 7, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

they were

so they said. I am sure they have never stretched the truth at all.

Russ

by wight4256 on May 7, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

so many people said it

I believe them.

It’s not like this is a new rule. Fans understand it, and I don’t think they’d have left if stadium employees hadn’t told them the game was rained out. It’s not like there’s nothing to do in the stadium. The place is a freakin’ mall.

Plus, they did let fans re-enter at another gate.

As far as I’m concerned, it comes down to basic decency. What did they have to lose by letting those people back in, vs. what they lost by being dickheads about it.

FWIW, the supervisor who made the decision to not allow the fans back in is reportedly in big trouble, and the Yankee brass are furious.

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by BubbaFan on May 7, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

GIS: "Furious Brass"

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on May 7, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

You’re not gonna remake money on the tickets but you can damned sure make money off the people wanting to get back in at the concessions stand. Not to mention you avoid the PR disaster.

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on May 7, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

it gets better...

Yankees resort to Legends seat upgrades

On the way to the game Monday vs. the Sox we got a call from the Yankees. They were moving us to the Legends seats, and not just any Legend seats. These seats were 5 rows back, directly behind home plate … ones that either go for $850 or $2,500, I’m not sure. And they put all 6 of us that were going together in one row.

When we picked up the seats at the stadium there were tons of other envelopes of people who got upgraded for free. This is how desperate they are … even when Boston is in town they have to give out complimentary upgrades to get butts in those seats.

They were having trouble filling seats, even as they blocked paying fans from re-entering the stadium.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 8, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

RHP Paul Janish

Paul O’Neill said that after he pitched for the Reds that time, his arm was screwed up for two years afterwards. A position player just isn’t used to throwing that much, and even if they tell you to take it easy, the competitive juices kick in.

I wonder how Janish’s arm is feeling this morning. He threw 35 pitches. At over 90 mph. Nick Swisher’s “fastball” was 75 mph.

Oh, and I agree with you 100% about A-Rod’s pitch-tipping.

If he did it. His teammates claim he wasn’t intentionally giving away signals, he was just really awkward at relaying them to the other infielders.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 7, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

pitch-tipping

The accusations of making deals with other players to do it in return is disturbing. If what Selena Roberts is accurate, the A-Rod should be banned. If not, she loses any credibility she ever had.

Russ

by wight4256 on May 7, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Doug Glanville...

somehow got an op-ed in the NYT about this.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 7, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

ban?

It should be. It certainly is an asskickable offense.

Head First "I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball." - Pete Rose

by wight4256 on May 7, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

certainly the latter

but if it’s not the former, then he shouldn’t be banned.

I’m not bringing paperwork and lawyers into a situation in which a good asskicking will satisfy the parties.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on May 7, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I grew up on the farm we didn't have the luxury of pitch tipping

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

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