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Too early to commit to 2009?

As we know, hindsight is 20/20.  With a little over a month gone in the 2009 season, Reds' leftfielders are OPSing a paltry .625, good for 28th out of 30 MLB teams.  The Chicago White Sox's right-handed bat who we were rumored to have been considering trading Homer Bailey for is OPSing .891 with 7 HRs.  I can't run the numbers like many on this site can, but eyeballing it, I'd say that we'd have at least 2 more wins with Dye instead of C-Dick/McDonald/Cherry/Nix starting in left field.

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So, with the Reds' early success, and especially seeing how good this starting rotation and bullpen can be, is it too early to try to fix the team's most glaring hole?  To make an early fix, a candidate would have to come a team that has no realistic shot a competing and who is not in the team's long-term plans.  Because the AL West and AL Central are terrible, this eliminates a lot of teams who currently feel they are competing.  Also, teams that suck normally do because they have bad players, so that leaves us with 2 realistic early-season candidates:

Matt Holliday - A's - $13.5M ('09) - a contract-year hitter who has struggled thus far in Oakland, but has a big-time track record of hitting.  The career  1.050 / .800 home / road OPS split is a warning given the time he spent in Colorado, but he's still a big-time hitter.  And he's playing on a club that sucks (trust me, I'm an A's fan too).  That said, this was Billy Beane's big splash in the offseason, so there's no way he's pulling the trigger without significant prospects coming back in return.  This type of acquisition would be mortgaging the future.

Josh Willingham - Nationals - $2.95M ('09) - 1st year arbitration - Willingham is the 4th outfielder in what has become a decent-hitting outfield in Washington with Dunn, Dukes, and Kearns (one of these things is not like the other...) each OPSing over .900.  He's been reduced to a part-time starter and a pinch hitter and is not taking kindly to the role.  Willingham would be a much cheaper option for left field, both in $$$ and in prospects.  He's OPS'd over .800 the past 3 seasons with good power considering he played in Dolphins stadium.  Because he's the odd man out, and because he's hitting about as well as Edwin Encarnacion so far in 2009, his price tag would be significantly less than Holliday's.  And, we wouldn't have to deal with Bowden.

Others considered: Luke Scott, Brad Hawpe, Miguel Tejada (to replace A-Gon if he's injured more severely than thought), Eric Byrnes, Ben Francisco.

My Take - I think that if we could pull off a trade for Willingham without having to give up Homer/Yonder/Frasier/Valaika, I would seriously consider it.  Would Maloney and Darryl Thompson be enough for Washington to pull the trigger?  If so, I would say go for it!  It's better to correct an obvious problem early in the season than to wait until the trading deadline.  I wouldn't go for Holliday - too expensive.

Poll
Is it too early to consider making a trade?
Yes - I'm not trading 2010 pieces to try to win in 2009.
3 votes
Yes - let's see where this season takes us
9 votes
No - our left-field options are so bad that I've lost hope of it getting better internally
1 votes
No - but only if we aren't giving up our top prospects
18 votes
Boobs. Duh.
10 votes

41 votes | Poll has closed

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I would consider taking on a cheap, one year contract, but nothing more

I think the Reds front office still has to keep LF semi-open for the possibility of moving Votto. From everything I’ve read, Alonso is much less athletic than Votto, so assuming he progresses this season, he should be up next year. Unless the Reds make a big trade, I don’t see them signing someone to play LF longterm.

by D-Rock on May 6, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dunn, Dukes, and Kearns (one of these things is not like the other...)

I haven’t been around in a while…do we still do “that’s racist”?

Willingham may be a smart move, but if I remember correctly, he’s a pretty shady fielder.

I doubt he’d be alright with it, but wouldn’t it be fun to trade for Tejada and put him in LF? He’d probably be a great fielder out there, and Houston could use most any of the Reds’ prospects if this season follows as poorly as expected. I’d be much more alright with Janish at SS (though the Reds may not be) if there was a bigger bat in LF. What do y’all think about this, ifs-ands-buts included?

Ali Boombaye

by Cy Schourek on May 6, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think it would be comically outstanding for tejada in lf also....

but it could work….i just wonder how much it would take to get him

HAVOC...your everyday solution to clogged bases

by Teewrecks44 on May 6, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Can we accidentally jab him with needles full of HGH? That would probably raise his OPS.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 6, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Herm Willingham...now there was a great bench player...

AND he could fucking bunt

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 6, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just looking at Herm Winningham

I couldn’t find his Bunt for Hit numbers (did they not keep track of those?), but he only had 13 sacrifice bunts in his entire career, seven while a Red.

Two interesting things, however:

His middle name is “Son.”
He apparently was never hit by a pitch.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on May 6, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He played during the 'anti-bunting period' when the Reds had real men for managers

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 6, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's just wishful thinking.

You’re not gonna be able to get rid of Matt Maloney that easily.

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 6, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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