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Gonzo is probably heading for the DL.  Who do you think the Reds should bring up to take his place?

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Gonzo is probably heading for the DL. Who do you think the Reds should bring up to take his place?

  • The big news from last night's marathon game is that Alex Gonzalez is likely headed to the DL.  Strained obliques are strange injuries, and it could be 2 weeks or 2 months before he's ready to go again.  Gonzo is heading back to Cincy today to see Doc Kremchek, so maybe we'll know more this evening.
  • I found these next two stories very interesting when taken together.  This first one has Dusty Baker reassuring Laynce Nix that he'll get him some playing time when he can.  He also says he spoke with Jerry Hairston and told him he will be starting at 3B today and tomorrow (though that could change with the injury to Gonzo).  Here's the quote from Dusty:  "I talk to all my players, tell them when they are going to play and when they aren't," Baker said. "I went through a lot of my career when the manager never talked to me, never told me anything, and I never forgot that."  Sounds like quite the player's manager, huh?
  • Then there is this.  Dusty says last night's loss was the hardest yet this season, ending on an error like it did.  He says the error went to Janish, but it was really Daniel Ray Herrera's fault.  "Daniel was late getting to the bag," Baker said. "We work on it all the time. He broke late. Janish was going for the double play. If he holds the ball, it's first and third, one out."  What kind of manager throws his young pitcher under the bus like that!?
  • Also in that blogpost, Fay speculates on who could come up to replace Gonzo.  It is really anyone's guess, as Drew Sutton (apparently on the DL with mono) and Juan Francisco (apparently not hitting anything) are the only infielders left on the 40-man.  Wilkin Castillo is also on the 40-man, but he hasnt hit at all so far this year.  Fay says Chris Valaika is "the obvious choice", but he's not hitting either and isnt on the 40-man.  Tell me who you think the Reds should bring up in today's poll.
  • This last turn through the rotation the Reds have thrown 3 shutouts and a 2-run effort.  More please.
  • RedlegNation gives us an update on Homer Bailey and continues to bang the drum for him to join the Reds bullpen. 
  • Dusty says he is sticking by Chris Dickerson, even in light of the fact that Laynce Nix is off to a better start.  "I ain't no front-runner,"he says.
  • OMGreds fondly remembers Jorge Cantu's short stint with the Reds.
  • The Hardball Times has their weekly rankings up, and the Reds come in 19th.
Poll
With Gonzo headed to the DL, who should the Reds bring up to take his place?
Wilkin Castillo. He's on the 40-man and he's been to the bigs before.
10 votes
Danny Richar. He's been the bigs and he plays a decent shortstop.
13 votes
Drew Sutton. Let's see what the new kid can do.
10 votes
Chris Valaika. The future is now.
35 votes
Juan Francisco. El Nino Destructor will unleash his pet chupacabra on the National League.
9 votes
Jonny Gomes. Hairston can play infield. We need some power on the bench.
103 votes
Wes Bankston. He's hitting better than anyone else in AAA and his righty bat could be useful.
27 votes

207 votes | Poll has closed

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Hopefully Seabass can come back by November

so he can catch on with another team.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on May 5, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh BTW

Look whos whoopin butts in the fantasy league… thats me baby

Dusty Baker said it was the first [triple play] he’d seen in person. When he was with the Dodgers, they hit into one, but he was in the bathroom.- C Trent

by The Crushinator on May 5, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not me

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jerk

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Undefeated Jerk"

If you would, please.

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 5, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fine. undefeated jerk.

im just happy to be at .500. Youkilis is a god.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Felipe Lopez is some kind of saint.

Who knew?

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 5, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Almost" winning a fantasy baseball matchup..

..is like almost masturbating to internet porn.

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean

D-Rock would have won if his wife hadn’t walked in?

by ctnyc on May 5, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I vote for Richar or Gomes

Gomes would be a better offensive option, but he’s not on the 40 I don’t think, plus that would leave our infield really thin.

Although I don’t mind Janish being the starting SS for a while. Goodness knows he’s earned it until he starts hitting like last year.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on May 5, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Richar isnt on the 40-man either

and i think Janish is the starter now. it’s pretty bleak, but he really is the best SS we got going right now.

unless…Dusty starts Cherry there again…

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you vote Gomes for the offense

Why not Wes Bankston. Bankston can play all 4 corners, and is hitting .280 and slugging .560 (Better than Gomes .243 and .457 ) If Gomes was hitting better I would say he’s the man. But he hasn’t so far.

I have a bad feeling we are going to get Norris Hopper’d.

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by MixFMKyle on May 5, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richar

Cherry is reverting to the back of his baseball card. I’d recommend trading him if there are any takers.

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on May 5, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dusty usually deflects the balme from his players which isone of the good things he does

But this time charlie hits it square on the head: What kind of manager throws his young pitcher under the bus like that!? Hopefully Herrera is as tough as he appears to be.

Bringing up Gomes is the best option. It won’t kill him to be a bench player, he’s got some pop and he’s been a MLB player for a long time. Wilkin or Richar or any of the kids are just going to sit behind Jerry Jr. and that’s not gonna help them. Plus we may actually see a bit more of Paul Jannish if Dusty doesn’t have to find playing time for another youngster.

As I said in another post, I believe that EdE may not be in a Red’s uniform again…my sources however tell me that there is much Man love for Seabass…should be the other way around.

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, the blame presumably lies with one of them...

And why not blame the pitcher, for whom fielding is secondary, rather than the young shortstop?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 5, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think my point is

you dont have to “blame” anyone. Dusty could have said, “it was a tough play all around. the 3-6-1 double play is the toughest to turn out there, and unfortunately the ball got away and the run scored. im proud of my boys for playing hard for 14 innings though.”

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

/heckuva job, Danny!

(I agree with you BTW)

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 5, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, good point.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 5, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Plus, we always put so much emphasis on the last play of the game.

But I mean, scoring more than 2 runs in 12 innings would’ve been alright, too. And that’s everyone’s problem.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Every Media outlet blamed Janish

I have found that a lot of people are nitpicking everything Baker says so I will defend.

Baker knows his players. He probably knows which youngster can take it and forget about it and which youngster is going to take it to heart for losing a game. Thats a big deal.. losing a game.

Baker needs Janish.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not praising baker for his expert management.

Baker puts out a team. They win or lose. Thats why they get paid the big $. Thats why the players are the heros not managers.

But I am only giving one reason why he said what he did.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh i get it

Janish doesnt “deserve” the error. but that doesnt mean DR needs to take the heat. like i said above, he didnt have to name names in this situation.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because its not about this blog

Or fans who already like Janish. The experts/analysts/commentators are blaming Janish. Now every small mistake Janish makes will be replayed with a shot of the loss as well.

He is giving an out for those experts when they talk about Janish.

Not the fans.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

so now instead of the experts harping on Janish, they will be harping on Herrera? how is that constructive?

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Herrera is a pitcher

1) He is not a position player. The team doesn’t depend on his fielding. Janish’s team mates need to have confidence in him and he doesn’t need the media getting down on him.

2) you are correct that those analysts will talk about the pitcher. but so what? pitchers make a defensive error in every game around the league. it isn’t seen as a huge mistake for a pitcher. and it will be a while before you see herrera anyway. at least a few days by which time it will be forgotten.

3) and we don’t know the make-up of Janish. Maybe he is far more serious. Maybe Herrera has a shorter memory.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why are you defending dusty so much

with these “maybes”.

Are you dating Dusty’s daughter?

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

But I have followed his career since SF days.

I think he gets a lot of unfair press. I do have some inside knowledge. For all you know I might be La russa. (hehe I am not)

I think its just ridiculous to follow a few half as*** i***** cubs fans.

just give him a chance. and you may find there is an alternative reason to what he he says and does. And frankly thats the only way the REds are going to win or build to win anything.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm beginning to suspect that you're Johnnypronto's source

The only chance we have to win anything is if the team is acting in ways that are not in accordance with what Dusty says? Agreed.

by Brendanukkah on May 5, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its an old trick

One version for the media another for the players.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

But his in-game managing sure seems to follow the script he gives the media, which doesn’t fill my heart with a lot of confidence. Yes, Dusty is a better manager than Boone and Narron before him (the jury is out on Mackanin). And yes, you can win with a crappy manager (Torre, Brenly). Dusty has positive attributes, and despite appearances, people around here do give him dap for that, but he also has a lot of flaws in his style. Trying to find the positive in them doesn’t mean that they aren’t still flaws.

by Brendanukkah on May 5, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And who doesn't have flaws?

The point is that Reds are a mid market team. I am sorry to be harsh but the Reds are not going to get Joe Torre, Cox, La Russa.

They are probably the best in mlb. They also get get paid huge $$$ and have total respect within the game. Even though Torre was run out of New York.

Baker has an excellent record of winning and also turning around the attitude of franchises that are floundering. So why not enjoy the ride. If it doesn’t work out the Reds haven’t lost anything. Look at the expectation already created.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

manager contracts

Dusty – 3 years, 10.5 mil
LaRussa – 2 years, 8.5 mil
Torre – 3 years, 13 mil
Pinella – 3 years, 10 mil

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

and Cox is making about 3 mil per. he’s been riding extensions for a number of seasons.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jeez, will you shut up and "enjoy the ride" already?

It’s a ride. With toothpicks. And magical hearing abilities.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on May 5, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh and Jerry Hairston

i heard he dances in a banana suit.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he doesn't

it’s actually Dickerson who dances in a banana suit, but Dusty thought it best to deflect blame to a veteran with Mexican heritage, for whom such activities would seem less noteworthy among analysts

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on May 5, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

that’s an old trick.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dusty has magic ears!

Seen as a young man (before the operation)

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're new around here

So here’s a bit of interesting reading from right after Dusty was hired. Folks around here didn’t really want him or LaRussa.

by Brendanukkah on May 5, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i still dont think you get my point

he didnt have to blame Herrera at all. he could have stood up for Janish all the same without throwing DR to the media wolves.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really.

There was an error. And one of the players is going to get the blame from the press. Might as well be someone who isn’t expected to make the play every time.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so let the press lay their blame

my point is Dusty doesnt have to do that for them. it is his job to put his players in the best position for them to succeed, and singling out DR seems like doing the exact opposite of that.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats not my point

Look the analysts will blame someone. Dusty IMO is trying to lead them into blaming the pitcher.

He is deflecting the criticism from Janish. If he doesn’t say anything it is implicitly suggesting that Janish is at fault. Thats what the reporters have written. So he has to say something to give an alternative..

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

i feel like im repeating myself. of course the analysts will blame someone. but that does not mean Dusty needs to give them a bone to chew on. he could have said “look, that 3-6-1 DP is the hardest play to turn in baseball, and we just didnt get it done tonight. it’s unfortunate that Janish is hung with the E, because he did everything he could there with Ramirez coming hard at him. and its hard for DR to get over there and cover and make that scoop. we’ll get ’em next time though.”

see? it’s pretty damn easy.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dusty needs to give them an alternative bone to chew on

Its not enough. He literally needs to lead them by the nose. I understand your point of view. But it won’t do it.

They want to hang someone. He is giving them someone whose main job doesn’t depend on getting a reputation for poor fielding.

Herera will live or die by his pitching. My point is if he keeps quiet they will NOT let go on Janish. They won’t connect the dots by themselves so he is being explicit.

That will mean a lot to Janish. Of course Herara will be pi***. But he is not as important as Janish.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ridiculous

Herrera may not be as important as Janish, but its still Dusty’s job to defend him. Dusty’s job is not to make the sure press has the right guy to hang, its to make sure his players are in the best possible position to succeed. if i were DR right now, although i should have made that play at first, i would be pissed at my manager for not having my back.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

He should have made that play.

The number of times Pinellla has chewed out pitchers in public. Ever wondered why Pinella isn’t as hard on position players?

Look its a minor thing and the argument is getting circular. You win I lose. He could have handled it better. But I will always contend that its more important to defend Janish that explicitly.

That is that he has done. and trying to do that doesn’t mean it will work. BUT I repeat Janish will appreciate it.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it doesn't matter though.

The fact of the matter is, that he’s throwing DRH under the bus and a “player’s manager” doesn’t do that. A “player’s manager” would have said exactly what Charlie did above, and we’d be talking about tonight’s game instead of dwelling on yesterday’s.

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on May 5, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this actually true?

How many reports/articles on the game have hanged DRH?

I’d also argue that public criticism from your manager probably hurts more than what some beat writer says.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Dusty seems to be the only one blaming DRH for the loss

Nobody’s blaming Janish either.

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on May 5, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bullshit bullshit.

Puhleeeassseee

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What Baker should have said was

That the runner was clearly out of the baseline and should have been called for interference. I thought it was a legit argument after seeing the replay and no one gets thrown under the bus.

by matchu522 on May 5, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really upset with Dusty for calling out Lefty here

He hadn’t pitched well, then didn’t cover the bag. I didn’t see the play, but everything I’ve read says Herrera screwed up. Why not call him out on it? The game ended on an error, which is frustrating, but I really don’t see Dusty’s comments as throwing Lefty under the bus.

by Brendanukkah on May 5, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have a point in so much as the are the facts.

I don’t know what good it does to publicly blame DRH…UNLESS Dusty knows that this action will contribute positively to Daniel’s growth…Dusty is with these day in and day out….but ultimately I’m with Srabbles on this one.

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think squarely placing the blame on D-Ray overlooks the other problems

We ran into some bad luck on BP’s ball that Hanley picked out of the air, and we scored two runs in 14 innings while giving away outs every inning on bunts. While D-Ray could have picked that ball out of the dirt to save a run, I don’t think putting the loss solely on him is fair.

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on May 5, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame Danny Ray for the loss.

But that’s because he pitched like shit, not because he fielded like it.

Oh well, every time he goes out there and blows a game should hopefully mean he’s one step closer to being back in AAA where he belongs.

by Geki on May 5, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on man

the offense went 14 innings and scored 2 runs. if the loss is to be blamed on anyone, blame it on them. how about Brandon Phillips? going 1-6 and leaving 6 on base?

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and our pitching staff went 13 innings and gave up only two runs as well.

I’ve accepted that the offense is a joke and last night was not surprising. They more or less played to their talent levels, which is incredibly sad but true. There were some poor managerial decisions thrown in there to boot, and yes, this was a team loss. But Danny Ray Herrera is the one that came in and let the first two batters he faced get on base and then he failed to get out of the jam. It happens sometimes and it was inevitable that somebody was going to give up runs and be the game’s goat. This time it was Danny Ray and it will probably be him many times in the future before he ends up back down in AAA where he belongs. He doesn’t have good stuff, he doesn’t have good control, and it seems like everyone is too blinded by his shortness to realize he’s not gonna be a very good major league pitcher. We have better players in AAA.

by Geki on May 5, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm not saying he should get off scot-free either

but saying “Danny Ray, it’s your fault we lost” is completely wrong in this situation. In a team sport like baseball is, can you really blame any loss on one particular player? The team scores 2 runs in 14 innings, and no runs in 6 2/3 innings off the Marlins bullpen. I don’t really see the hate for a guy who, except for 2 outings, has pitched pretty well this season. I’d say he’s earning his spot over Lincoln and Burton at this point, isn’t he?

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on May 5, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The loss was a team loss..at some point a reliever on one team or the other was going to have to lose..

But both teams had plenty of chances to win…it ain’t Jannish’s or Daniel Re’s loss…its a team loss

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point exactly, Mads.

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on May 5, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont trust your sources

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on May 5, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I had him in last year's pool.

I guess I slightly underestimated his tolerance for alfredo and cabernet.

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 5, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shit I have him in next year's

guess I don’t get any carry over points

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where does that put me in the standings?

besides enjoying a celebratory hoagie?

Dusty Baker makes my balls hurt.

by PeteyHendrix on May 5, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know its a moot point

and I’m not sure Dusty was throwing DR under the bus, but he could have talked about interference on the play. Looks like a textbook example to me.

by ol Pete on May 5, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

wow

now that i look at it again, i think you have a point.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy cow

I’m all for sliding in hard to break up the DP, but that’s flagrant interference. WAY off line. Even the homer announcers admitted it. Not that I expect the umps to call it, in the 14th inning of a May game. I’m sure they just wanted to go home, but still…wow.

And it really wasn’t that bad a throw, all things considered. Looks like Votto could have gotten it.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 5, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so I gather

I guess you can’t expect your pitcher to scoop the ball out of the dirt like a first baseman.

Herrera said he overran the base and ended up trying to make a backhand catch.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 5, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just a little offline...

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 5, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

here's an idea

instead of blaming DR, how’s ‘bout Dusty blames Hanley? see? now everyone’s happy!

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha.

that’s hilarious.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thrown under the bus

is such an over-used phrase now, I’m really sick of hearing it. Dusty was just pointing out a mental mistake. If you look at the box score, it looks like Janish costs the Reds the game. Guys are going to make throwing mistakes in the season, even the best fielders. What drives managers crazy, I’m sure, is mental mistakes such as Herrera’s last night. It reminds me of when Bruce made a base running error.

If there’s one positive to take from last night: Burton and Lincoln pitched 4 scoreless innings.

by cokane on May 5, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The sun did seem to shine on Lincoln's ass last evening.

And, did anyone else get a sick feeling when Dusty pulled Rhodes for Masset to pitch to Ramirez? I sure did. Masset’s been fine, but I just don’t trust him yet.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on May 5, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just fine?

In 7 appearances over 10 innings, he’s allowed 7 walks, 4 hits, and 2 runs while striking out 5. Sure, the walk number is a bit high, but otherwise I think he’s been far better than fine. Now, whether any of that will last is a different question.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

and yes.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on May 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a passage from James Joyce....

Pops you literate scoundrel you!

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would I no, say no

and flaunt a sexy eyepatch.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on May 5, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well the post-game interview isn't for sharing feelings.

We’re paying Dusty an awful lot of money to get the best out of all our players, and I really don’t think yammering to the press about a rookie pitcher’s mistake is the way to do it.

If the mental mistakes are driving Dusty crazy, he can tell his therapist about it.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point wasn't to be down on DRH

I think Dusty was just trying to make sure Janish wasn’t taking the blame for a bad throw. If Gonzales is going to be out for the next couple weeks, it would be terrible to have our young impressionable replacement come down with the yips.

by Born Too Loose on May 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but the point is you don't have to blame anyone.

Like the example Scrabbles gave earlier. You could even say “I don’t blame Janish at all” and still not just come out and blame someone.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're cherry picking

honestly. There’s little wrong with what he said.

by cokane on May 5, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can I be cherry picking if I'm only talking about one incident?

Do you mean nitpicking? Or that this one instance is not indicative of an overall pattern?

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey we could throw Dusty under the BUS!!!!

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My vote is for Jo(h)nny

I find it very depressing that our best pinch hitter is a pitcher. I’d hate to see Owings DL himself running out a double.

That said – the Reds were 2-1 while I was in Vegas over the weekend and I got to watch their games at the Sportsbook. Sadly, that was the highlight of the trip as far as gambling goes.

by D-Rock on May 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they should just bring up someone who's already on the 40 man

It’s the least complicated thing to do and probably the safest at this early part of the season. Noone outside the 40 man is really going gangbusters right now other than Wankston.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on May 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is what I would do

call up Gomes- roll with the C-Dick Gomes platoon that was much anticipated.
Start giving Nix a couple starts a week in Center. Take Willie’s starts down to the 110 game range and consider moving him down to 7th and 8th.
Move Jerry to the infield and hope he can start hitting and make Janish the primary SS for the rest of the year.

by davidmac84 on May 5, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont get dropping Willy from the leadoff spot

he is 3rd among regulars in OBP, tied with C-Dick at .333. Votto (.445) and Bruce (.340) are the only regs ahead of him, so who else do you want leading off? I agree that he is not an ideal candidate to lead off, but as with every question swirling around this team nowadays the answer is “we just dont have anyone else”.

and Jerry is going nowheres. let us say it all together now: “LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE!”

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus there's no way Taveras gets his starts cut.

Wait a minute…did he just say to start Nix in center?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on May 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last season was a fluke of epic proportions

This season Cherry is gonna produce less than Royce Clayton did for the Reds.

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on May 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who else hits leadoff?

there’s no better candidate on this team

by cokane on May 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

davidmac...buddy I share your Red's pain

but I don’t think there is a good reason to move Wily from leadoff, sep. when you conisder who we have to replace him…C-Dick? Bruce?

I’d like to see Nix get more action too. and although I am a big fan of Cherry Hudson (last Red’s living link to the Nergro leagues) if I were the manager I couldn’t play him ‘in hopes’ that he regains last year’s form. AS Chuck says below Jerry’s last year may have been his best, certainly not his card back.

The biggest chnage I would make is to get Brandon Phillips out of the 4 hole, I’d rather see Bruce hit 3rd (with JV protection) and Votto fourth and see how that works.

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is not a good idea.

1. Who do you take off the 40-man to make room for Gomes?
2. Nix doesn’t have the range to play center.
3. Who hits leadoff over Willy T?
4. Why give C-Dick the platoon spot over Nix?
5. Why keep starting Jerry every day at “hope he can start hitting”? Where’s Rosales at then?

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on May 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nix

rates as a positive CF for his career about the same as Taveras if you eliminate the negative Colorado numbers.
I really still dont believe in Willie. I think his high walk rate to start the year was a fluke. That it will continue to trend down to his career average 5-6% range. So it short I think you are looking squarely in the face of a sub 300 OBP from Willie despite the early positive returns.
Nix whom once a top prospect- injuries- not really in Brewers plans despite a couple pretty strong years in AAA. In short a player that may have alot of upside potential either in LF or CF.
I admittedly am very strongly in favor of Dickerson playing close to a full year in LF as a plattoon. I think is plate discipline will start bearing fruit this summer. Gomes lets get him a try. Whom to drop of the 40 man- is Richar on the 40 man- if so drop him he has no future with this team.

by davidmac84 on May 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richar is not on the 40-man

try again.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure someone is expendable on the 40 Man

worse case scenario-McDonald- great story- Nix looks pretty good- good luck with your career.

by davidmac84 on May 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am subbing tomorrow and thursday

i was apparently so successful last week the guy i filled in for requested I take his class again thursday. Tomorrow I am subbing for a middle school class, I am kind of afraid.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And right that you are...

Fucking 6th graders are the bane of Christendom…
Especially those 6th grade girls

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good luck

What grade? 6th or 7th is usually easy. 8th, hold on to your fucking hat

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on May 5, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't know

i was just told that i am filling in for middle school language arts. I will actually have to work tomorrow.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that sucks

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on May 5, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but thursday i fill in for the guy i filled in for last year

and i just read the whole time why the students worked on the computer, it was awesome!

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Reds outta DL Gonzo today

and they should have put a pitcher on the first flight to Miami this morning. It could have just been a one or two day call up, but after last nights game an extra pitcher would be good.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw something somewhere

that thought the Reds should trade Homer for him. It was written shortly after he got sent down earlier this year.

by sharks on May 5, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i saw something somewhere

that thought the Reds should trade for Carl Crawford. maybe we should do that.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Reds should trade Dunn for crawford

imagine the awards walt would win for that.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok...

I sense some sarcasm

found the article, and I still think it would be a stupid trade

by sharks on May 5, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah it was a ctownboy reference

i miss that little guy.

still, Bailey for Milledge is a bad deal for a Reds. Milledge has shown legitimate reasons to be concerned about his major league future, while Homer has only shown that he is a 23 year old kid.

i’d send the Nats a few minor league arms for him, but i would treat it more as a “we’ll take this jerk off your hands for you” kinda deal.

go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And so it begins.......

the lineup tonight:

Willy Taveras CF
Jerry Hairston Jr. SS
Joey Votto 1B
Brandon Phillips 2B
Jay Bruce RF
Adam Rosales 3B
Chris Dickerson LF
Ramon Hernandez C
Edinson Volquez P

Notice who’s missing? And more importantly, who our new starting SS is?

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on May 5, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

after 15 innings last night

couldn’t ramon use a rest?

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent point

I was so confused about SS that I forgot completely about Hanigan

Dusty is determined to run AGon and Hernandez into the ground…….he’s got one down, and is working really hard for the next one.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on May 5, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

volquez is pitching

dont think his english is that good

by cokane on May 5, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bullshit

his English is fine.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

He spent some time in Texas.

by Brendanukkah on May 5, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is batting him 8th so doesn't expect him to be running the bases

This about calling the game against one the best hitting teams in the NL.

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

give him a break

He likes Dusty. Madville loves Rosie. I love Bubba. Colin loves Dickerson. We all have our baseball crushes.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 5, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love Maloney

that was uncalled for, but i just felt like lashing out, it is either him or some poor middle school student.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I vote for the middle school student

On the basis that they deserve it more.

I know, ’cause I used to be one… ;-)

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 5, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but Dusty's a useless sack of shit.

And he seems to be the only person in the whole wide world who hasn’t realized that his hero is just woeful at managing a baseball team.

by Geki on May 5, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only baseball crush is Kris Bensons wife.

but i have enough money to be retired mid 30s!

by Outside Observer on May 5, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jeez, he's rich, get it?

enjoy the ride. there’s a pile of money. it’s slippery. jeez.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on May 5, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sutton has mono

that is nasty. I was laid up for about 6 weeks when i had it.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 5, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh....boy

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey the guy in that video looks a lot like obc

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on May 5, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Little off topic

My memory’s rusty, but why isn’t Cantu on this team anymore…?

by Nasty N8 on May 5, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was something like he wanted more money than they were willing to commit

And they also didn’t want to use up a roster space because the Rule V draft was coming up. Granted, they’d gotten both Hamilton and Burton that year, but it seems like a really shitty strategy to plan on building your roster through that avenue.

by Brendanukkah on May 5, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

Hamilton and Burton were the year before. Sergio Valenzuela was the rule 5 pick that year.

and i think it really had more to do with $$ than anything. he was asking for something like 3.7 mil, and it was kinda bananas. i dont really blame the Reds for not paying him what he wanted in arb, but it still sucks to see him succeeding in another uni.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I really don't think we were saving that roster spot for Valenzuela.

We just picked him because we had a spot open, lost Guevara, and we might as well pick something up. If I recall correctly, Valenzuela was a raw pitcher in high-A-ball and we gave him back before the season even opened.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he went to the Mexican league actually

still there, as far as i know.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did we just give cash in return?

Or trade a player?

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on May 5, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no idea

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 5, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

That was what was so annoying. IIRC, the Reds were saving a roster spot for him, but he didn’t want to be a Red. The Reds could have protected a minor leaguer, but were hoping to sign Cantu and kept him on the roster past the deadline. By the time they gave up and released him, it was too late to add Guevera.

I don’t blame Cantu, either. He was slated to be a reserve infielder for the Reds. If he had a chance to start for another team, you can’t blame him for preferring them.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 5, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By "that year," I meant as part of the 2007 season

Poor phrasing. I wasn’t meaning to exonerate Krivsky by saying that choosing someone in the Rule V draft over keeping Cantu turned out to be the right move.

by Brendanukkah on May 5, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because

He didn’t want to be.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 5, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raise a glass with Jerry tonight!
In 1862, the United States was in the middle of a civil war. All the South needed was a strong exterior ally and its strengthened cause might have permanently split the United States. A possible exterior ally was closer than Abraham Lincoln liked, as the French Army under Gen. Laurencez was making its way through Mexico.

The French Army was considered the greatest military force on the globe. For nearly 50 years—since the defeat of Napoleon I’s army at the hands of allied forces at Waterloo, Belgium in 1815—it had not known defeat and had recently won victories in Europe and Asia. In 1862, the French landed in Veracruz along with forces from Queen Isabella II of Spain and Queen Victoria of Great Britain. They had come to collect the debt owed to them by Mexico—debts that Mexican President Benito Juarez had officially suspended because the country was essentially bankrupt.

Refusing Juarez’ proposed compromise to repay the debts two years later, the collaboration of the three countries’ militaries seized the custom house at Veracruz. They intended to intercept the customs payments in exchange for their debt. After some time, the diplomats for Spain and Great Britain reached an agreement with Juarez and the armies from those two countries departed from Mexico. The French, on the other hand, stayed and headed for Mexico City.

France had significant interest in halting the growth of the United States. The North American country’s rate of expansion and power was threatening to the other world powers. If Napoleon was successful in conquering Mexico, the possibility of marching north to aid the Confederates in dividing the United States into two less powerful and less threatening countries was real.

The United States was a major cause of France’s attack on Mexico. The war America recently won over Mexico leveled the Mexican treasury and led to financial disaster. Thus, Juarez suspended payment to France and incited Napoleon III, ruler of France, to act. Lincoln and the United States were dependent on Mexico staving off the French troops until the Confederacy could be defeated and Lincoln could deploy troops south to aid Juarez.

Early on May 5, 1862, General Laurencez led 6,000 French troops toward Puebla, Mexico, just 100 miles from Mexico City. Expecting the attack was General Ignacio Zaragoza, a Texas-born Mexican who was ordered to defend Juarez with a force of 4,000 troops, many of them agricultural workers armed with antiquated rifles and machetes. The battle would take place in a muddy, uneven field.

To show his contempt for the Mexicans, Gen. Laurencez ordered his troops to attack through the middle of the foes’ defenses, their strongest position. The French cavalry went through ditches, over adobe ruins and toward the slope of Guadalupe Hill. By then, the cavalry, exhausted and nearly disbanded, failed to achieve its goal. The Mexican army stood its ground. Gen. Zaragoza, who had no experience in military tactics but was a veteran in guerrilla warfare, ordered his troops to go after the French, who fled to Orizaba, where Zaragoza attacked the French again, forcing them to flee to the coast.

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 5, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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