The Old Man and the L
by Brendanukkah on May 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT
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Aaron Harang. After taking one look at the lineup card, Harang knew that he would have to be at his best. Boy, was he! Harang went 7 IP, with 9 K, 2 BB, 1 ER, and the win.
Key Plays
- In the first inning, Willy Taveras proved the value of a leadoff hitter getting on base with a bloop single, then came around to score on Brandon Phillips's single.
- Zap Hanigan homered. Don't look now, but we have quite the catching tandem.
- In the third inning, Cherry Hudson doubled to lead off, and Brandon Phillips bunted him to third (FTH?). Jay Bruce then singled him in before promptly getting picked off.
- Raul Ibanez continued to make Phillies phans phorget about his contract by hitting a home run in the fourth inning. Only offense the Phils had all night.
- In the 8th inning, Dickerson singled and Taveras walked, then Phillips drove them both in with his second triple in as many nights. Who knows? Maybe it would have been an inside the parker if he hadn't fallen on his ass in the batter's box.
Other Notes
- No graph tonight, since it was just a whole lotta dominance by Harang and a whole lotta mediocrity from Moyer.
- Jamie Moyer had been pitching in the majors for over a year before Jay Bruce was born.
- This was Jamie Moyer's first start in Cincinnati since 1991.
- Each of the first four hitters in our lineup had 2 hits. So did Hanigan.
- There were 10 Reds fans in a bar on U St. tonight. Holy fuck!
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Phillips bunting was stupid and he got massive props from George and Jim Day
Your third hitter bunting in a one run game!?!?!? Who does that?
i think he was trying to push the bunt passed Moyer for a hit
he almost did it too. not that that is a good excuse, but i dont think it was a play on. that would have been worse.
go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 21, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He sure reacted at first as if he got what he wanted
Gave Hatch a high five and everything. Nonetheless, haven’t read any postmortems so maybe someone asked. Nonetheless, George and Jim went on and on about how wonderful it was and how it was great smallball
I can't complain
when we score a run
by jacob brumfield on May 21, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes and no
What’s frustrating is that BP and Bruce are pretty much the only power bats in the lineup right now. When one of them bunts, it’s pretty much means the Reds believe they just need the one run, which is a silly thought that early in the game.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
and Ramon
he’s shown some pop this year.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
really?
Ramon and his .371 slugging percentage have impressed you?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
small sample size'd
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
oddness
the list of people i want at the dish in a late inning pressure situation, in order, is:
Votto
Bruce
BP
Owings
Ramon
Cherry
Nix
Taveras
Rosales
Nobody else for any reason whatsoever
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Not Hanigan?
I’d rather have him than Taveras or Rosales.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
It's easy to forget about Zap...
as well as he’s been hitting, we just haven’t seen him much.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Nix should be higher
Dude doesn’t give away ABs very often in my eyes.
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
small sample size'd
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Ramon hasn't show a lot of pop
But he has shown the ability to get the bat on the ball and put it in play.
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On principle I don't want to see BP bunting when he gets to face a soft-tossing lefty
Especially that early in the game, as you said.
see your point
but I would much rather have this, then the past where we sat and waited for homeruns.
I don’t want to start another long debate, mainly with you hung over from cake, but I am really enjoying the Reds this year. And the main reason I am enjoying this team is that they are doing everything they can to move runners over(for better or worse) and get them home. It was agonizing in the past to get runners on and they just chilled out until someone knocked the cover off the ball. Yeah I know our strategy of bunts and sacs is dickless and puny, but I am a fan.
by jacob brumfield on May 21, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying they should wait for a home run
just that they shouldn’t be happy to surrender outs. I would have been plenty happy with a single in that situation, and I think it’s reasonable to think that BP has a better than 50/50 chance of getting a hit off of a pitcher like Moyer.
And if it had been someone like Rosales or Taveras, then I’d be less upset about the bunt. But BP’s job isn’t to get the runner over from 2nd base. It’s to get the runner in from 2nd base. That’s why he bats in the middle of the order.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
better than 50/50 may be pushing it
but Moyer has been a bad pitcher, and it’s early in the game. I think the bunt made things easier on him in that situation. Especially with a lefty coming up next.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I like my team being dickless all game long
why wait until the 7th to grow a vagina?
by jacob brumfield on May 21, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
so you subscribe to the the Joe Morgan School of Consistancy philosophy
You must be a baseball guy then. I apologize. The internets were masking your true level of baseball guyness.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
if Joe Morgan isn't a baseball genius, then my real name isn't Jacob Brumfield
Nah, I don’t think every situation is the right time for small ball, bunts, and sacrificing. But I also don’t think you should wait until later in the game to employ said techniques.
by jacob brumfield on May 21, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's okay to play for one run early
in a game where you are facing Cole Hamels and Johnny Cueto is your pitcher. But when you are facing a guy who has allowed 19 runs in the previous 12 innings, I say hammer away!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
What about on BP's triple?
Where he’s got that swinging-from-his-heels, fall-on-his-ass thing going on? Is that a normal thing that he does? Cuz it looks ugly as sin.
by Brendanukkah on May 21, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe that
was the Dave Parker Home Run cut
by fourrunhomer on May 21, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't remember him doing that before
but that’s at least the second time he’s done that in the past week (the other time being the home run against the Dbacks where their fans got all pissy at him). I don’t mind him doing it when he makes contact, but if he starts flailing and missing, it’ll piss me off.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I usually hate
the sac bunt in almost all situations unless the batter is a pitcher who can’t make contact. That said, I don’t mind phillips bunting for a hit,especailly if the infield is back. I see Slyde’s point though. Phillips has been hot lately and Moyer is the type of pitcher the he hits well.
by fourrunhomer on May 21, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
hammer away indeed
I have been carrying on this conversation thinking the bunt led to the first run, not the third.
And yeah you are right, with a two run lead the bunt may have helped Moyer out of a possible big inning. But my brain does not let me disagree with a decision that led to a run. Kinda like leaving the bar with a cute girl, but in the back of your mind you still wonder if you could have scored the hottie.
by jacob brumfield on May 21, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Not me
At this point in my career, if I weren’t married, I’d be going straight to the ugly chicks. Cause I don’t have the offense to put up a big inning anymore anyway.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
at this point in my career
im not married and i aint going for the ugly chicks.
sign me up for hawt + batshit crazy!!!
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
I would have been happy...
If they had scored all of their runs on errors. Just don’t make an out if you don’t have to.
And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...
by Paul Householder on May 21, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
1st party perspective
I had great seats in section 118, looking right into the Reds dugout. BP was definitely trying to reach base for a hit. Afterwards, he was looking sheepish and laughing. He also kept gesturing at Ryan Howard and Jamie Moyer.
I think he saw Howard playing back, Moyer falling towards 3rd base, and tried to sneak a bunt single.
"Here's to you, Mr. Ceremonial First First Pitch Thrower Outer"
What, Susan from Paducah doesn't even make it into the game wrap?
She expresses all of our feelings about Jim Day segments, yet gets no love…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Deadspin's got you
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on May 21, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Based on the email, I'm about 99.7% sure it was submitted by a Red Reporter
so whoever did, good job
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
by BK on May 21, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
though next time feel free to drop a link to your favorite site on the net, eh?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I missed the back and forth
with the kid it mentioned. Does anybody have a link to it?
by fourrunhomer on May 21, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
If you have mlb.tv...
you could probably watch the archive. It wasn’t exactly a kid—I think the one he ended up interviewing was at least 18. But the whole thing was just completely awkward.
It was on Singles Night, whenever that was.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Yeah...
Though I think she was flipping off her friends rather than the crew. I think that’s what you get for telling Jim Day a woman is turning 50.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Reds are 3rd in majors in ERA right now
Let’s just hope Jo-eh is O-keh
If he is and we can get a big bat (or at least trade Gomes for McFlurry) this team could make some noise for a while.
Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?
as much as i'd hate to see it happen ...
i’m fine with placing our current catcher at first and letting zap catch full time. it seems to have worked well so far.
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
by joshuar9476 on May 21, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
If Votto can't go, this should be happening every game
"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san
The Reds are now 2-0
when my wife beckons me to the bedroom. Now if that isn’t all the argument one needs for gettin some every night.
I'm always
up for it. Let’s just hope my wife is up for it.
by fourrunhomer on May 21, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
after 4 hours
you really should call a doctor.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
high five'd
go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 21, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
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