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by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 12:52 AM EDT in Game Threads

Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Willy Taveras. Taveras had about as good a game as a leadoff hitter can have, going 5-5 with a double, 2 RBI, 4 R, and a SB. In seven innings.

Key Plays

The offense showed up in a big way, right from the beginning of the game. A single, double, and walk by our first three batters loaded the bases, but Brandon Phillips predictably grounded into a double play to score the run. Still, we scored first so the outcome was never in question.
Bronson Arroyo led off the third inning with a single, his first hit of the year. Taveras got on with a bunt, and both runners scored on Cherry Hudson's second triple of the game. A double by Brandon Phillips drove him in. 4-0 good guys!
Until Felipe Lopez doubled and Justin Upton hit one uptown. 4-2.
Taking that as a challenge, Laynce Nix and Adam Rosales hit back to back homers of their own in the fourth, before a double by Taveras and single by Votto put the score at 7-2.
Lopez continued to bedevil his former team with a home run in the fifth inning. He ended the night 3-4.
Reliever Bobby Korecky went looking for a hotline, because he got abused in the sixth inning. Double to Rosales, single to Taveras, stolen base by Taveras, walk to Hudson, single by Votto, single by Phillips, and a wild pitch, and that's four runs given up.
It was more of the same in the seventh, when Nix singled off Korecky, Rosales doubled, and Taveras got a single to drive in Nix before another wild pitch allowed Rosales to score.
For some reason, Bronson Arroyo came in to pitch the seventh, even though he had 113 pitches and a seven run lead. He gave up a home run to Mark Reynolds.
Josh Wilson pitched the ninth inning for the 'Backs. Position players pitching is the new Wildcat formation.

via FanGraphs

Other Notes

Jay Bruce had his hit streak snapped.
Ramon Hernandez went back to catcher since Joey Votto was healthy again. He went hitless. Ryan Hanigan replaced him in the 8th and singled.
The only other Reds leadoff hitter to have 5 hits in a game was Ryan Freel, on June 23, 2006.
Arroyo's hit means that all the starters now have at least one hit.
Also, besides Arroyo, the starting lineup didn't have anyone with a batting average below .200. The offense is really coming around! We have a positive run differential!
The Reds are tied for second in the division, two games behind St. Louis.
The Reds are an MLB-best 11-5 on the road.

Final - 5.11.2009	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R
Cincinnati Reds	1	0	3	3	0	4	2	0	0	13
Arizona Diamondbacks	0	0	2	0	2	0	1	0	0	5

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Call it.

D-Back’s time of death: 7th inning.

by jsl413 on May 12, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions

I'm going to lay my claim to this right now just in case it happens so I can brag

We’re going to the playoffs!

by chesirecat on May 12, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions

You have to stay in Scotland for that to happen

We’re doing well while you’re in miserable weather. Don’t disrupt that mojo!

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions

the reds feel apart when I went to Cuba in 2006

so maybe reds fans leaving or entering the country has something to do with it. Hopefully they don’t fall apart when I get to Dublin in 3 weeks.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions

i'm jealous

Baseball worshiped here.

by Daedalus on May 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions

The Reds fell apart when i went to Aruba in 2002

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on May 12, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

The Reds won the World Series when I went to bed in 1990

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

i was drunk in Athens OH when the Reds won the WS in 1990

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on May 12, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions

You're old.

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on May 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Me too!

A drink in one hand and a broom in the other. All night! In and out of every bar that allowed brooms (and accepted my fake ID).

"Nobody's going to die just because they can't find their little yellow basket."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 12, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I was learning my ABCs when the Reds won the WS in 1990

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on May 12, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I was a happy senior in college

secure in the knowledge that the Larkin/Davis/Rijo/Browning/Nasty boys core would mean the start of many more World Series to come (lacerated kidney my bum). And, in some parallel universe they did.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

i knew my ABCs

but i was advanced for my age

go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 12, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, that series would have taught you the letters A and C and how to count to 4

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

i was only 6

so all i learned was that Todd Benzinger was a really really good baseball player.

go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls

by Charlie Scrabbles on May 12, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

i was in 8th grade

just old enough to remember well.

Baseball worshiped here.

by Daedalus on May 12, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I had just moved from Cincinnati to f'n Connecticut in December 1989

But my new school allowed us to wear hats. So after enduring some ribbing by all these A’s bandwagon fans, it was an extra sweet autumn.

In 1997, I was in a freshman dorm in Athens where my floor was 95% Indians fans. We watched the World Series in my room with two other Reds fan and my Yankee-fan roommate. During game seven we chanted 1990, 1976, 1975, 1940, probably even threw in 1919. And of course 1947 as things fell apart.

When Renteria won the game, one after another, we heard all the other doors slam shut. Many of the doors’ whiteboards were left with nothing but “Believe” written upon them. Some people didn’t talk to us for a week. What a great memory.

by RedConn on May 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Empathy'd

I had recently moved from Cincy to Portland. There were tons of bandwagon A’s fans out there, and junior high kids are obnoxious to begin with. That series was sweet redemption.

by ken on May 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions

We're NOT going to the playoffs...

…but this season is turning out to be the most fun a Reds fan has had in a long time. You’ve gotta’ love the fight in this group.

Is there any chance that the team has this same fighting attitude with Griffey or Dunn (not both) still on the team? Or would there defensive liabilities have prevented the starters from going this deep into games (and all the ensuing secondary effects)?

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on May 12, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't know

this feels a lot like 2006, so far. I’m still enjoying, as I enjoyed it back then, but honestly I don’t get that “special” feeling with this team. Hopefully I’m wrong though.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on May 12, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

I'll bite

Not enough sticks or not enough arms or some combination of the two? I lean toward the pitchers coming back to the mean soon enough and the bats just being good enough to score 5.5 runs a game.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

I think we'll see a few slip ups from the bullpen

and we’ll probably see a stretch where the starting pitchers don’t go very deep into games because of tired arms or ineffectiveness. And I think the offense is going to be streaky because it’s not deep. I still think they have a shot at 85 wins, but if I had to guess I’d still predict 78-80 wins with the current composition of the team.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on May 12, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm gonna' agree

but that’s just a reflection of my man-love for Slyde— I love what the man can do with a spreadsheet!

The age of the bullpen has to catch up with them (right?). Or can Bray, Viola, and others fill the gap, when needed?

This year is more fun for me than 2006 because I believe it’s something that can be built upon. Harang and Arroyo were the only pitching bright spots. Weathers couldn’t continue to close. David Ross had a career year, and Hatteberg at 1B and Royce Clayton weren’t long-term answers. The minor league depth this year and the youth in the big team’s lineup give me more hope.

Oh yeah— I hadn’t heard of RR in 2006, either.

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on May 12, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions

5.5 runs per game

will win this team a lot of games. In fact, they’re a 90-95 win team if they score 5.5 per game.

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on May 12, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

right, which is why they aren't a 90-95 win team,

because they can’t score enough runs

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

2006 has left me bitter and pessimistic

i’ve fallen for this team too many times and I’m not going to let them hurt me any more.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

one of my favorite moments in 2006

was from August when they were playing the Cards – the call where David Ross hit the walk-off homer to center field was a great call – I was putting my (then) 4-month-old twins to bed, and I was pumped!

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on May 12, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Didn't he throw his helmet or something?

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

i was at the 12:35 businessman special the next day

and I was sitting in the first row down the thirdbase line. Ross came out to warm up Arroyo, and he jogged over towards our section and we gave him a standing ovation, he just smiled, probably one of the best moments i’ve had a game.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

in this case

I think you’re right. The teams who are leading in May are often nowhere to be found in October.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 12, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

It's certainly easier to make the playoffs if you're leading in May

by ken on May 12, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions

2006 went down to the wire

all it will take is a couple of games going the reds way that didn’t in 2006.

Baseball worshiped here.

by Daedalus on May 12, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, it went down to the wire because St. Louis had an epic collapse at the end of the year to even keep it close

Hopefully we can just keep this pace going. Win, and everything takes care of itself.

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Remember the Ryan Franklin experience...

He would throw that pitch again.

And he apparently did, twice on Sunday.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions

i don't remember

i’ve blocked it from my memory

Baseball worshiped here.

by Daedalus on May 12, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't remember 2006?

Relive it!

by ken on May 12, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Baseball Prospectus estimates there is a 25% of the Reds making the playoffs

I think Adam would make a fine addition to this line-up. The Ghost of Griff….probably not as much. But, I still miss him.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

If we were in the NL East

We would be leading the division.

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Or the AL West for that matter

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions

1999'd

Ali Boombaye

by Cy Schourek on May 12, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions

At the risk of curbing your euphoria

When Gonzo and EdE come back, Dusty will play them. These two guys (other than BP) are the left overs from the last couple of years of offensive sludge…

I hope they make me eat my comment…but it will be a shame to upset the momentum of the team as it is playing right now. You’d think addingthose guys would just make it better…but I am doubting that outcome..

BTW here are a couple of Red’s who’s ‘popularity’ way exceeded Sean Casy’s during their heyday

Especially Big Doggie

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions

He has to 'Initially'

You can’t lose your position through injury or the next guy will feel the same. But they will be on a much shorter leash.

by Outside Observer on May 12, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions

Tell Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady that

by RedConn on May 12, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Mads,

lets say EdE goes back to hitting like EdE of old, he is a better hitter than Rosales and so far I’d say their defense is about the same. Rosales was pretty terrible at third base last night. According to fangraphs Rosales UZR is -0.3 and his range is -.6 That is a small sample size. But so far he isn’t that good at third base.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions

I hope that EdE comes back and blows the lid off...

Really, I do…no shit, I’m not lying…believe me…couldn’t happen to a nicer guy…I also hope that tHom comes down with laryngitis for about a month while i at it.

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions

I love me some EdE

He really cares about the game. He doesn’t exhibit it in the Sabo/Freel/Rosales fashion, but he puts himself out there all the time and keeps plugging away. I don’t see him going through the motions, and all the reports say he’s put in all kinds of work on his footwork that affects his throws.

All that said, I don’t know if he has the pysche to overcome the negativity that’s built up around him. And I don’t think Dusty has found a way to connect with the kid.

I don’t SEE the Reds, I listen to the games, so I can’t say for certain, but peteRosales’s defense has sounded scary. More than the “hustle” piece that seems to have smitten so many, I like his approach at the plate. Even in Spring Training, he seemed to have a knack for the productive out— moving runners over, getting the flyball to the OF when needed, etc.

That’s the difference between the two, so far. In Rosie’s whopping 30 game career, he K’s once every 10 plate appearances (even less so far this season). He goes for extra bases once every 16 plate appearances (better in 2009). EdE K’s once every 5.5 plate appearances, but goes for extras once every 11.

We could have a long debate about the value of extra base hits, strikeouts and productive outs, etc. We could also discuss how EdE’s ratios are irrelevant because he is so streaky and goes on tears where he carries the team, then slumps where he’s a virtual 8-hole hitter. My point: with the high ratio of all-or-nothing hitters on this version of the Reds, the rookie’s ability to put the ball in play, keep a little momentum going, etc. is more valuable— assuming his defense is roughly comparable to EdE.

I’m sure the true numbers-types can rip this to shreds…

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on May 12, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah, actually it's not that hard to fill in the blanks

Rosales has never hit 26 HR’s in a season…not in A ball or rookie ball. His 6 week hot streak is nice (although his inability to field a ground ball is troubling)

After all, he isn’t a new entity cooked up in a lab (in other words, he has more than a 30 game career); his minor league stats demonstrate a useful utility player who is not “a kid” unless EdE is a kid too (they’re four months a part in age). Last year his K/BB ration was 82/22 at Triple A, whereas Edwin’s was 102/61 in MLB. For those 20 more K’s Edwin hit 20 more bombs and also walked three times as much.

At some point, history indicates Adam goes back to his abilities, which are abilities I wish I had, but is not the talent EdE has.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed

Rosales is going to come back to earth.

While I’m not sure EE is meant to be a third baseman, I think it’s nuts to consider starting Rosales over him. He doesn’t have a better stick or a better glove.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 12, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah,

but he cares more, and runs faster, and is whi……wait a minute

I hope Dusty has the sense to plug EdE right back in when he comes back. I’m hopeful he will, even though Joe Sixpack Fan will go apeshit over it.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on May 12, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Joe the fan?

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Not Hal the writer

Love Rosales and his racehorse hustle, but does he EVER field a ground ball cleanly. A bobblehead for him would be appropriate.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/05/11/some_staggering_stuff_when_are.html

by ken on May 12, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions

true, Bubbafan, if he continues to butcher the hot corner

then he could be moved as the 37 young ‘uns move up. But, none of the scouting reports I’ve seen seem to indicate any of those kids (except maybe Frazier) can play defense there either.

Maybe 3rd base is a lot harder to play than we think (I know I broke my nose playing it in softball and it seemed hard with some 250 lb dude is getting a ball lobbed to him), but we generally think of short and second as hard and discount the ability to play third.

All I know is after a two weeks of watching Rosales play it, he is doing worse. Makes me long for Janish at SS, Hairston at 3B and I hate to see Jerry on the field.*

*which is weird, because he seems like a really nice guy who gives very pleasant and reasonably insightful interviews.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

i played 3B with minimal problems

in little league.

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Prolly becuase you didn't move from your 'spot'

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

*and he plays some good ball more often than not

C’mon, Hairston is no AllStar and he’s never going to be one. Barring an injury to someone else, he’s never going to even be a regular starting player. We don’t really want to see him as anything but a super-sub (especially as the Reds get closer and to the 2011 NLCS) but can’t we save the hate for the truly deplorable hacks like Patterson or McDonald?

"Nobody's going to die just because they can't find their little yellow basket."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 12, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I said I hate to see on the field

not hate him. Besides, I never see McDonald on the field or Patterson.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions

But he runs to first on walks.

And does not trot around the bases on home runs. I think he runs out to his position too (as well as to the restroom and the team bus). That’s something that stats just don’t measure. You can’t underestimate the effects of running everywhere you go.

And that’s why sabermetrics people don’t know anything.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

i Hola, Cincinnati !

"Nobody's going to die just because they can't find their little yellow basket."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 12, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Speedy Rosales?

Photoshop a Reds cap on him, and that will be officially racist.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

If my wife is half-Mexican, do I have immunity?

ah, screw it, I can’t use photoshop anyway

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

No, but you will definitely have the immaturity.

Which is how I at first read the subject line before reading it again more carefully.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn. But I knew that, Paul

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

My daughter-in-law is half Cuban

She thinks Rosales is an idiot…

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Bubba Crosby did that

But it wasn’t what I would consider an asset. He actually lapped the runner in front of him once. That is not good.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 12, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

If he does that, isn't he counted as out?

I thought Reggie Jackson (or some other all-star) did that once.

Am I mistaken?

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

Not sure about the Reggie story, but yeah, you can’t pass a guy, even on a HR.

by ken on May 12, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions

wow

All that hitting, and Bruce was 0 for 5?

And Josh Wilson gave up only a walk. I guess their backup SS relief pitcher is better than our backup SS relief pitcher.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 12, 2009 6:10 AM EDT reply actions

Am I the only one that's a little bugged

that while Arroyo has a 5-2 record with an ERA over 7, Harang has a 3-3 record with an ERA under 3! If I could distribute those 8 wins and 5 losses, Harang would be 6-1 and Arroyo would be 2-4… and both would deserve those records!

That said, that was a heck of a ballgame last night! A great way to start off the road trip! Especially with Dan Haren vs. Micah Owings coming up tonight. If the Reds pull out a win tonight, it’ll be real evidence that we’re onto something special this season.

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on May 12, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions

Which goes to show that wins...

Are a lousy stat for judging whether a pitcher is good or bad.

I think if you simply distributed a few runs from last night across Harang’s starts, Harang would have a 6-1 record, and Arroyo would still have won.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm going to tell my children..

“A pitcher’s record means almost nothing. The only time a pitcher’s record should represent anything other than a curiosity to you is if you can make use a pitcher’s win total for x and then 2(x-1) is greater than or equal to the number of the current month. If 2(x-1) is greater than or equal to the number of the current month you are probably talking about a pitcher who is having a good year. But if 2(x-1) is less than the number of the current month you should not assume that you’re talking about a pitcher who is having a bad year.”

That’s what I’m going to tell my children. And don’t smoke, dumbass.

"Nobody's going to die just because they can't find their little yellow basket."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 12, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I like it. Mind if I steal it?

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey, you!

Get back here!

"Nobody's going to die just because they can't find their little yellow basket."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 12, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Life is an unfair bitch

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

To be fair to Bronson

those two losses were brutal on his ERA. When he is off, he is really off. I believe those were both home games too, huh? Maybe he needs a sponsor when he is in town.

Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.

by snohio on May 12, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

2 of his wins, though

he gave up 5 runs – once in 6 IP, once in 7IP.

Arroyo – 50 runs, 7 starts
Harang – 23 runs, 7 starts (2 of which counted for 15 – which means in his other 5 starts, he’s gotten 8 runs!)

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on May 12, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Guess you don't subscribe...

…to the “pitch to the score” theory? You know, the “if I’ve got a 6-run lead, I’ll give up 3 or 4— ERA be damned, as long as I’m not throwing walks and the bad guys are hitting into outs faster than getting on base” mantra?

(I don’t buy into it, either)

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on May 12, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Position players pitching

What’s completely insane about this is that I think 28 or 29 teams feel the need to carry 12 pitchers and they still end up throwing in the poor saps. 11 is the idea number, and mopping up is what the swingman/mopup/long man role is for! Alas, the long man has gone the way of the 2 inning save.

by teb7 on May 12, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions

"the long man has gone the way of the 2 inning save"

Only when your pitchers are going 6-7 innings into every damn game they pitch. It’s so much more fun without relying on Todd Van Poppel to keep the Reds in the game!

Ali Boombaye

by Cy Schourek on May 12, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

True.

Unfortunately, we have seen so much more of the latter than the former since 1999.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions

I think the Dodgers were/are carrying 13 pitchers

Saves them from putting Juan Pierre on the mound, though.

by ken on May 12, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions

yes

With Torre, it’s not a bad idea.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 12, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Why? He only throws the same two guys over and over again

Joe, it’s Scott Proctor’s arm on the phone. It’s wondering if you know where Scott is?

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Scott Proctor

Is out for the season. He’s scheduled for Tommy John surgery.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 13, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Where have you gone, Rollie Fingers? A lonely Reds blog turns it's eyes to you...

Woo, woo, woo!

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on May 12, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions

am I the only one that forgot there was a game last night

only to see this in the morning?

Ali Boombaye

by Cy Schourek on May 12, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions

wrec'ked

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on May 12, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

word

Ali Boombaye

by Cy Schourek on May 12, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions

green'd

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

it still blows my mind that with energy issues and water issues that face the world, a city in the middle of the desert keeps growing.

Baseball worshiped here.

by Daedalus on May 12, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Does it.

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Is that a question or a statement?

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Great game last night

when this team is hitting, they are one of the better teams in the league.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on May 12, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions

that's like saying

when the Rangers are pitching, they’re one of the better teams in the league.

When the Reds’ weakness is being a weakness, they’re tough to beat. It’s nice to see Votto back in the lineup. And Taveras has been better than expected.

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on May 12, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

That was the point I was trying to make

I know it’s not a profound statement, but I said it anyway.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on May 12, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions

"MAH SPOON IS TOO BIG!!"

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions

"TUESDAY'S COMING, DID YOU BRING YOUR COAT?"

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on May 12, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions

"I CAN COUNT TO POTATO!"

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on May 12, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

I feel fat and sassy!

I don't need a hot breakfast to have a good time.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on May 12, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

tHom'd

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Then ponder also...

That the Reds are awfully hard to beat when they score more runs than the other team.

That is the sound of one hand clapping.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions

You're not gonna find many Black Jews who can tapdance better than Sammy Davis Jr. could.

"Nobody's going to die just because they can't find their little yellow basket."

by Fat Vegas Alan on May 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Are they.

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I love having good pitching!

Every once in a while, you get these games where your offense goes off. But most nights, you won’t have 13 runs and 18 hits. But we are winning the 3-2 and 4-0 games too this year. That is what makes me so excited to see how the rest of this season plays out.

(Now… someone will go look it up and show me that we’ve never won a game 3-2 or 4-0 this year. I am already preparing myself for that.)

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on May 12, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions

Half right

the Reds have won one 4-0 game. They’ve lost the only 3-2 game they’ve played. Way to exaggerate.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on May 12, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Oh.... it doesn't matter

No matter how hard you try to prepare for it, it still hurts.

So, I could either do a little research before I post or else just systematically hunt down and kill everyone who criticizes me. That’s a lot of people to kill, but it still has to be easier than the alternative.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on May 12, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I think I'm starting to catch a (T) Virus

How many people thought that after 30 games Willy would be OPSing almost .800?

He had great ABs last night too. Hitting ‘em where they were pitched, excellent bunt, going oppo field. I’m impressed so far.

And what a great bounceback game from Sunday. I love that this teams always does that: beating MIL 6-5 the day after a 13-5 ass-kicking, crushing FLA 7-0 a night after getting beat in 14 innings, etc.

Isn't there a slanket somewhere you should be filling with your farts?

by nycredsfan on May 12, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions

I thought it would be half that!

He’s been playing good defense and getting on base. A couple of his knocks last night were extremely lucky (the bunt could have been called an error, although I wouldn’t have called it that, and he was lunging across the plate to hit bad pitches in good places, which I’m betting is unsustainable), but he’s been the biggest surprise of the season for me, so far.

Oh, I would have guessed EdE would hit like -.320. I didn’t negative average were possible.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Let's translate

Stupid work people are keeping from avoiding work:

Oh, I would have NEVER guessed EdE would hit like -.320. I didn’t THINK negative averages were possible.

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

We all knew it

Everyone here was praising the signing. We knew he’d be a big success!

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on May 12, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, no one could ever find a post here disparaging that signing

by timb116 on May 12, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I only thought he was

going to be worse offensively than Corey Patterson. Is that a disparaging statement?
I will take credit for motivating Willie- he has been pretty amazing so far this year.

by davidmac84 on May 12, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey now

I’m taking credit for motivating him sir. The only way I could have motivated him further would have been to cut him from my fantasy team.

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on May 12, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Today is Felipe Lopez's birthday

Holy crap, I’m terrified for tonight!

by Brendanukkah on May 12, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions

but did he dedicate a field today?

Bloop

by justin007000 on May 12, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Deficate on what field?

Never Try and Never, ever Care - That’s the Madville Way

by Madville on May 12, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Heh.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe he will come on to pitch then.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Anyone around here getting the sneaking suspicion...

That Cherry Hudson, Jr. was actually nursing a nagging injury during the first month of the season? His average is up 100 points since May 4.

That is not entirely without precedent for either the team (see Encarnacion, Edwin Elpidio) or the player.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on May 12, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions