Pitching and Defense? No, This Team Is Built on Lies!
The Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Carlos Delgado. 2-5, 2 runs, 4 RBI, and a home run.
Key Plays
- After Carlos Delgado took Edinson Volquez deep for a two-run shot in the first inning, the Reds responded with a Votto three-run homer off Mike Pelfrey and Brandon Phillips scoring when Reyes and Delgado botched a double play attempt.
- In the 4th, Volquez was rattled by a Ryan Church double, uncorking a wild pitch and walking the next two batters to load the bases. After running the count full on Pelfrey, Volquez got the soft grounder to third to end the threat.
- In the 5th, Volquez gave up back to back singles to lead off the inning, then Gonzalez muffed a double play ball to leave the bases loaded with no outs instead of a runner on third and two outs. Delgado grounded out to drive in a run, and Volquez pitched to Beltran, who singled to drive in two more runs.
- The Reds tried to answer in the bottom half of the 5th and had runners on first and third with two outs when HAVOC reared its ugly head. Votto was caught taking too big a lead off third and was caught in a rundown to end the threat.
- The Reds had two more baserunners in the 6th, but fan favorite Darnell McDonald grounded out to end the inning.
- Mike Lincoln was incredibly ineffective, giving up doubles to David Wright and Brian Schneider, sandwiched around a Delgado single and walks to Beltran and Church. 4 more runs! 4 more runs!
- A productive out from Bruce and a single from Ramon Hernandez brought the Reds back within three.
- The anticipated debut of Taveras was pretty remarkable: a triple! A sac fly by Dickerson left the deficit at two.
- A wild K-Rod still did his job and got the last two out with the bases loaded.
via FanGraphs
Other Notes
- The Reds showed good patience at the plate, making Pelfrey throw 44 pitches in the first, and 104 through 5. They walked nine times in the game.
- Apart from Lincoln, the bullpen pitched a scoreless game. Commendations for Masset, Burton, and Rhodes. In fact, Lincoln and Herrera are the only relievers to give up runs this season.
- Joey Votto has the Reds first home run of the year.
- Votto and Phillips went a combined 5-8 with 3 runs, 3 RBI, and 2 walks.
- A small crowd of 13, 568, about half of whom were Red Reporters. They say you gotta be a true fan to go to Game 2. I guess you do.
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Darnell McDonald
Fan favorite indeed. I’ve already got my #16 jersey on order from the Reds shop.
by coocooforcocoapuffs on Apr 8, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
he did make a nice play on that Reyes liner to begin the game
but you are right, dude needs to make DPs and not swing at strike 3.
My millions are unconventional!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 8, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was a borderline pitch
Might have been strike 3. Might have been ball 4. Can’t blame him for swinging at it with the count full. It’s not like it was over his head or something.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
If you're going to be upset as Gonzalez
swinging at bad pitches, Charlie, you might want to skip this season. if there’s one thing he knows how to do, it’s catch the ball and strike out.
wouldn't that be two things?
he’s multi-talented!
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
sorry for being a smart ass
but that would be two things he knows how to do well
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
wow
that took a long time to post. now someone can make a smart ass remark to me.
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
Uh, yeah, snark snark snark
I really have nothing, but after you corrected me I felt I had to respond. Stupid phone calls interrupting my comments and making them even more nonsensical than even I intended.
the play where Votto was out at the plate in the 5th(?)
any chance that was a planned “trick” play hoping to catch the Mets napping?
Hope Springs Eternal!
the reason I bring it up
it just looked “off” to me. Perhaps the reds were trying some trickeration on the exact play when the Mets tried the bluff to third throw to first play (which rarely works)
Hope Springs Eternal!
Maybe
I remember from the replay Berry shouting “go go go” at Votto—that doesn’t necessarily mean anything, but if the trick play was on, Berry would know about it. Of course, he’d also send Bengie Molina against Roberto Clemente.
If it was a trick play, then the pickoff attempt screwed it up.
The Fay
says it was a trick play…on the part of the Mutts.
Jay Bruce fell for fake-to-third, throw-to-first move. “Jay got tricked,” Dusty Baker said. Joey Votto broke for home on the play and was thrown out. “We tried to steal a run,” Baker said.
Everyone’s griping about Sea Bass, but it wasn’t a great night for Bruce, either.
Mike Lincoln got lit up for four runs in the seventh. Three of them scored when Bruce fell down on what was scored a three-run double. If he doesn’t fall down, it could have been a one-run single.
Fay also says Hairston won’t play today. (He left the game early yesterday after fouling a ball off his ankle.)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
yeah good points in your title
i think this team will surprise people by their offense this year, but i think the pitching will disappoint.
hopefully Voltron will not be a one hit wonder
but I think a 4.25 or so ERA is a real possibility. He has got to become more efficient with his pitches or he will become just another .500 pitcher.
Hope Springs Eternal!
DE-FENSE
What a disgusting game to watch, especially with a Mets fan. Not much to analyze here, other than the whole “speed and defense” meme is not off to a good start.
I wish I coulda come to the game
Although it was a brutally frustrating event.
It is time for Dusty to stop with fucking Havoc and run a more straightforward game.
Even Marty is clamoring for a 3 run Johnson.
Big day for Bronson 2morrow
He’ll probably sleep on the boat tonight with several skanks
Harang wasn’t great out of the gate and now neither is Volquez..but its early and cold and its Cincinnati. A couple/three weeks from now I think that rotation should be warmed up. Hopefully by then Bronson will have been traded and Homer can learn to ply his trade at the appropriate MLB level – The Show.
I continue to believe that Dusty Baker is no better than Jerry Narron….Dusty may not last the season, cause I don’t think Uncle Jocko and Big Bob will put up with this shit – unless somehow the Reds start to consistently win baseball games.

Hell these guys are older I am…they ought to see through Dusty’s poser bullshit.
Its probably going to happen - bend over
where the fuck where you?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Apr 9, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Liar, Liar. Pants On Fire !
What are all these “lies” the Reds are supposed to be built on ? We have an awesome amount of young talent which will develop over time. Otherwise, you are the one spreading lies so go face some chin music.
Here, listen to this.
It’s the Chins. It’ll change your life.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 9, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Garden State.
Great soundtrack.. Decent enough movie..
Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.
Lies?
A little tongue in cheek perhaps, but you can’t deny that for a team “built on pitching and defense”, last night we had some pretty lousy “defense” and bad “pitching”.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
You tell 'em, newb.
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 9, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would have thought my plan to find one person's jersey out of 14,000 people would fail?
Next time I will have to find out what two people are wearing.
Or get someone’s fucking phone number. I can do intimate gatherings, too. Tentative plan is to go Saturday. Any RRer’s considering making it out for Owings’ first start?
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
I'm not
being a New Yorker.
But I’m looking forward to that matchup. He’ll be up against Maholm, the Bucs’ ace.
Also interested to see how the Karstens-Cueto game goes. Karstens is a product of the Yankee system, sent to Pittsburgh as part of the Nady trade.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
my wife kept wondering if you guys made it on tv
after the mets went up 9-5 and the majority of the crowd left, i think everyone that stuck around got significant face time.
"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.
For various reasons, I think it's best if the RR crew stays out of the limelight
Don’t want them to end up like this guy, for one.
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
Where's the game 2 eyewitness report?
I need to learn of all the chicanery that occurred. Did Ash take another condiment shot? Did ’tHan make it through the night? Did Slyde and Will Carroll sneak off for some alone time and miss a big play? Inquiring RR minds want to know!!
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
Honestly
the only thing I remember about last night is that Steve Wilson from Indianapolis is a big bag of dicks.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
The chicks with the signs?
if you want to broadcast that Steve Wilson from Indianapolis is a big bag of dicks to as many people as possible, why would you do it at a Reds game?
Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.
by SullivanSmith on Apr 9, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish there was a way to explain
the surrealism of meeting Will Carroll for the first time as two skanky, drunk-ass chicks lay on me while trying to take a picture holding a sign made from notebook paper that only said “Thanks Steve!” and was apparently directed at a guy named Steve who could only be described as a big bag of dicks.
I stopped being surprised at what happens at these RR get togethers, but honestly, that was totally bizarre.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Will looked a little scared there for a minute...
Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.
obc took some pictures with his camera phone
that’s about the best we’ve got.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
This is where we sat, not bad for $5

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Eye wuz dere.
I’m still only half coherent, and I swear I didn’t drink THAT much.. I think the next time I have out with you guys, I’m gonna stay sober, although you probably won’t like me then, as if you like me anyway.
’than and I made it FIRST to Bar Louie.
Ash was next followed closely by Sully, wandered around looking for us, then finally was brave enough to ask if we were it.. after asking a Mets fan next to us.. and OBC showed followed by xjjeep and Jessica (who was with Sully). BK in there about the same time.. We drank.. Slyde finally showed and we walked across the river. Had another beer in the machine room met with Menace.. It was 4 – 2 Reds by the time we left, although we did see it on the tvs in the machine room.
Found our $5 seats down on the 3rd base line behind the “Thanks Steve” girls. (obc has the pics). It was a long game…. No condiment shots. Lots of shouting by me I seem to recall. In retrospect I feel like I was being a little loud…
We almost havoc’d our way back into the game but in the end we were all waiting around for the 4 run homer to happen.. Seriously, 3 on 1 out and you can’t throw Owings – our only power hitter on the bench – in there instead of relying on Sea Bass and Nix?? That was probably the most depressing part.. Although Nix did give it a shot with warning track power.. A fraction of a second later on the swing and it would have cleared the right field wall..
We hung our heads on the way back to Newport, then found out that Gameworx stops selling at 11:30.. (yes 4 hours after game start time and we made it back to Newport.. Terribly long game..) But Bar Louie didn’t fail us with continued $3 drafts, $1 burgers (extra done) and $3.50 fries/tots.. They get you on the fries (although they were GOOD.)
We all departed shortly before 1 am. Good times for sure, some memorable events.. Glad to meet Sully and Jessica and see everyone else again.. I can’t wait for Pittsburgh!
Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.
Figures
My first game with the RR crew and my shoulder/arm starts to flare up in the 5th inning.
I know it’s only two games in the season, but I’m already starting to get irritated. Best news of the night was when I heard that Gomes accepted the AAA assignment. If McDonald keeps playing at this all-star level, he should be back in no time.
Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.
Sad to say, I agree.....
…..any notion that a team with personnel like this is going to be built on “pitching and defense,” when we don’t have enough of either and play half of our games in a band box of a stadium, is worse than a lie. It’s the team’s way of telling you that we’re not going to be scoring any runs this year (along with not having enough pitching and defense). Oh, and we have a manager who thinks getting on base is not a priority for his lead-off hitter, so long as he looks fast while he’s grounding out. God, this is going to be another long season.

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