Yeah, about that great pitching...
So Man Mountain and I went to the Futures game tonight, where we watched the prospects beat the crap out of pretty much every Reds pitcher we threw at them.
Well, okay. Mainly just Arroyo, Cordero and Lincoln. But those are kind of important guys to have not giving up runs to sub-MLB level hitting.
We came to the basic conclusion that the top five guys in the Futures lineup did a pretty nice job of not making fools of themselves against big league pitching. I mean, look at the results:
Heisey: 3 for 3 with a double
Valaika: 4 for 5 with a double
Francisco: 2 for 5 with 2 HRs, one a cheap inside-the-park one
Frazier: 1 for 4 with a walk
Alonso: 1 for 2 with 3 walks and a HR
I can't believe I dragged my camera along for these crappy pictures, but here goes. First, the lineups. Note that nobody wants to stand near Dusty. Also, each team seems to have one weird guy in shorts.
They had the local guy who pitched to Josh Hamilton for the HR Derby throw out the ceremonial first pitch. Then, they had the kid in this picture (who was apparently related to a sponsor) throw out a ceremonial second pitch. Somehow they resisted the urge to add more ceremonial pitches.
Arroyo pitched out of the stretch a lot. He also gave up a lot of hits.
Name this player!
Home run trot view.
Post-HR congratulations. This may have been after the inside-the-park HR. If I could actually identify these guys I might be able to tell you for sure. It was kind of a freak play, incidentally. Dickerson ran over near the line, but not in any particular rush. He didn't catch the ball. Then he managed to flip over a short fence/wall. When he popped up he seemed to think the ball had bounced foul, but no, it had bounced in fair territory. Once everything was sorted out, everyone had scored. But have no fear, Francisco had a real, honest-to-goodness HR later in the game.
More home run trotting...
The wind was doing strange things. This is an attempt to excuse that ridiculous failed catch of the popup in center, but really, he should have gotten it. There was also a dropped fly ball in right, I presume by Bruce. There was a band of sunlight shining on the field, and he lost track of the ball when he ran into that light.
1 recs |
29 comments
Comments
Nice
thanks for the pics!
Reds fan for 40 years!
by gejoe on Apr 4, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And
is it Alonso?
Reds fan for 40 years!
by gejoe on Apr 4, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 4, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and about Alonso's HR...
Wasn’t that the one hit right down the right field line?
In that park, it was 309 feet to a short wall there. If he plays much AA ball, he might hit more than a few out right there.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
by Gray on Apr 4, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alonso's homer was to right center I believe
he got it over the big part of the wall IIRC. I believe it was one of the major leaguers who got the short porch shot, but I’d have to see a box score.
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 4, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just checked
it was Dickerson who enjoyed the 309 sweetness
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 4, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the pics
Next time, more newdity.
I really hope the Reds sign Frank Catalanotto. Yeah, he’d be a bench player and the first left handed hitter off the bench. But I’ve always been a big fan of his and can’t believe the Rangers just ate $6 million to get rid of him in order to keep an older washed up Amdruw Jones.
by Brian B on Apr 4, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember a Diane Arbus coffee table book in college...

"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 4, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe someone should call Justin's friend....
Its probably going to happen - bend over
by Madville on Apr 4, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confirmation.
Yes, it was Bruce who dropped the ball in right.
That was one of the only parts of the game I heard on the radio. That, and Brantley too-too-lazy call of Fransisco’s second home run: “Up high and over the lights…It’s gonna land out there somewhere.” He finally got around to saying “home run” like seven seconds later.
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 4, 2009 2:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
I was hoping for a report, but didn’t expect it to be posted so soon.
I was wondering what the heck happened with that Dickerson play.
Also…any word on why Zach Cozart and Juan Francisco swapped positions in the middle of the 2nd? Nobody left the game, they just switched positions. At least according to Gameday.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Apr 4, 2009 6:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
An attempt...
to confuse the MLB Reds.
Clearly it worked, and secured the W for Team Future.
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 4, 2009 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't switch defensive positions
Gameday has mislead you again.
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 4, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GD GameDay
"There are only two seasons -- winter and Baseball." - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Apr 4, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
Does that mean the errors at 3B were by Francisco, and not by Cozart?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Apr 4, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did El Nino Destructor look defensively?
"There are only two seasons -- winter and Baseball." - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Apr 4, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see the whole game
but the Reds really didn’t hit it a lot his way. I can only think of one defensive play he made going to his right a step. On that play, his arm looked plenty big enough for the position. He’s also much broader than I thought he would be from various scouting videos and pictures.
Hairston’s arm OTOH looked pretty weak at short.
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 4, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Hairston had another throwing error.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
by Gray on Apr 4, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I'm wrong.
He had a nice get but totally blew the throw so that the runner was safe.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
by Gray on Apr 4, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston has a weak arm
he’s not a SS…actually, I’m not sure what the hell he is.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
by obc2 on Apr 4, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Reds have seen the future. And it kicked them in the balls.
My impressions:
Great to meet up with Gray again for a ballgame, even though he was dressed for a Decemberists show. It was also fun to meet Ken finally. I’m not sure how many MLB teams do this kind of game, but it’s a fantastic idea. For fans of the Reds organization, there was always something to look for and celebrate on each play.
They’ve done some renovations to Five Counties Field since last I went and, overall, I think they’ve done a fine job with respect to seating, concessions, and field view. It’s a very simple park with pretty good sight lines and a nice compact feel. On the downside, the video board looked pretty grimy and obviously hadn’t been repixelated since it was last used. The PA system was terribly uneven: it was too quiet in some spots and loud as fuck in others.
Of the Reds players, BP, Volquez and DR Herrera looked to have the most rapport with the fans. Volquez was finishing his day-after workouts when they were introducing the Reds team. He made it to the line just before his name was called as a reserve (you’ll notice he’s not on the 3rd base line in Gray’s pic above). When his name was called he didn’t move a muscle, waited a few seconds, then did a half turn while throwing his arms up in the air. It made all the little kids laugh.
The weather was odd: bright and blustery. It must have been hellish in the outfield. Going by all the detritus that was swirling out there, I would say that the Reds outfielders have a small excuse for misplaying some of the balls that got up in the air. Martin the Mudcat, who is (get this) the Mudcats’ mascot, failed to launch two t-shirts into the stands from his shirt cannon and nearly had a third pushed back on to the field if not for the proverbial superhuman agility of an individual who wants free shit. So, really, the Reds outfield was only as inept as an encostumed teenager in meth country North Carolina. Steve Holt!
Always cool to see so many Reds fans so far from Ohio. Gray and I sat next to a very nice gentleman and his son who knew enough about the Reds system that I assumed he was a Reds fan. In fact, he was a Cubs fan. I should have known he wasn’t a Reds fan when he mentioned that the Reds made a mistake in not resigning Dunn. We did enjoy fellowship in making fun of Dusty. He was very high on Darnell McDonald and Chris Dickerson.
My heart was set a flutter only twice last night. The first occurred when Todd Frazier came to bat and the opening riff of Neil Young’s “Ohio” blasted out over the PA. What a bad ass choice for at bat music. Kickass Reds prospect likes ‘em Young? Very likely. Two innings later, however, I noticed that “Ohio” preceded the at bat of El Nino Destructor. Hmm. That seemed less likely ( /that’s racist!). Then it introduced Ramon Hernandez on the Reds at the bottom of the inning. By the sixth inning or so, “Ohio” introduced every other hitter on either team. Gray hypothesized that the PA operator had selected the song based merely on the title alone and had not, unfortunately, paid much attention to the lyrics. By the end of the night, however, the story of a massacre seemed — albeit distantly and metaphorically — relevant. The fact that the players hadn’t chosen their own at bat music was disappointing, but it did make me feel better about Drew Stubbs always coming up to the Bangles “Eternal Flame.”
The right field foul pole at Five Counties is 309 and about a 12 foot wall. It’s called “Catfish Corner.” In very little time, however, it will be rechristened “Way Out Yonder.” Alonso’s power stroke is something to behold. After getting him off-balance with some off-speed stuff, Arroyo tried to put an inside fastball past Alonso in the first inning. He crushed that pitch. Francisco’s swing was similarly impressive but it looked (in last night’s at bats at least) that El Nino Destructor gets the ball up in the air more, but he does have significant gap power.
As Gray mentioned, the 1-6 hitters for the Futures team were an impressive group. It made me giddy to think of them actually batting 1-6 in the bigs. Although I’ve fawned over Alonso and Francisco, the player who impressed me the most was Chris Heisey leading off. He looks confident at the plate, squares the ball up nicely, has doubles power, and looks to be a very efficient base runner.
On a night that was focused on the bright future of Reds baseball, however, my biggest thrill came from its storied past. While waiting in line for another Icehouse, i caught a glimpse of Eric Davis, striding in front of the dugout in his crisp #44 jersey. I’ve heard many, many times that he looks like he could still play, but it’s still shocking to see in person. He’s a physical freak. Seeing Davis walk out of the Reds dugout, as if to take center field, was an absolute rush. The excitement was of that pure childhood stock that gets harder and harder to find as you get older. I thought about all the 9 and 10 year olds around the park who had lost their minds when Brandon Phillips had run down the 3rd base line earlier in the evening giving high fives.. I thought how far away their experience seemed to me then, and how close it seemed now. How badly I wanted to jump the fence and give him a high five.
It’s moments like this — the almost literal representation of a line stretching from the present back to the past and from past into the future — that keeps you grounded in a team despite the frustration, the losing, and all the other carnival acts of human folly. However cynically we might regard the cross-promotion of baseball and family, we must at least admit that there is a fundamental reason that baseball and family are so often bound together in the American mind: their dynamism is the same.
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 4, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
"Eternal Flame"?!
Common! April Fool’s Day is over.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Apr 4, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EWR
Since my parents live about an hour from Zebulon and I owed them a visit, I hopped down to NC to see the future. It was great to meet Man Mountain and Gray. Always good to have confirmation that I’m talking to actual people here. Some observations/pics:
- It really was windy, as Gray’s picture shows. That coupled with the short RF fence made me believe this would turn into a HR derby. But only Dickerson’s HR really benefited from the wind/dimesions. Yonder’s no-doubter was to right-center, above a pretty high (25 feet?) wall. But Francisco’s was the real jaw-dropper. It went over the visitor’s clubhouse beyond right, a legit bomb. Unlike his popup that Dickerson misplayed.
- Speaking of OF defense, the Reds were brutal out there. Bruce lost one in the sun. Dickerson ran a bad route to one fly that ended up as a double, and misplayed the inside the park HR. McDonald had the worst error, completely flubbing a fly in center that bounced out of his glove. It’s too bad the Reds didn’t hit much, because I would’ve liked to have seen Stubbs’ range out there.
- Buck pounded the zone and looked good. Actually, his delivery isn’t exactly fluid, but it works for him. The scoreboard radar gun (held up by a Mudcat striking a sexy pose) stopped working early but I saw him hit 92 and 93. I didn’t see Bronson hit 90.

- Another guy that impressed was DeJesus, who I knew nothing about. He’s a broad-shouldered guy and threw some gas. He was pretty pumped up after striking out one of the Reds to end his first inning. Here he is warming up (I think):

It was hard to tell who the minor leaguers were because the program didn’t have uni numbers.
- Even if the Reds were lethargic they at least looked like they were enjoying themselves. Bruce and Votto in warmups:

- Here’s BP charming some kids before the game:

Bottom line, it was great to see some baseball after a long witner, and good for the Reds for properly introducing the organization to a new community. Take a bow, Uncle Walt.

by ken on Apr 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am mightily disturbed
That that fish has both legs and a tail. Aren’t they supposed to hate evolution down there?
by Brendanukkah on Apr 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Is the mascot’s name “Darwin”?
![]()
The pose is bizarre, but then, how would you pose a critter like that horizontally without it looking like some kind of centerfold pose?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Apr 4, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by 




























