Spring Game 34: Reds vs. Futures
by Slyde on Apr 3, 2009 5:30 PM EDT
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The Reds take on the Future Reds tonight in Zebulon, NC. Game time is 6:05 PM and the game is being broadcast on 700WLW as well as MLB Audio. Whether it is available on an affiliate network is anybody's guess. I can't seem to find a Gameday link, so if you figure it out, please post it.
Bronson Arroyo takes the mound for the Reds, trying to overcome his carpal tunnel syndrome and give some confidence to Reds fans that he should actually start the season on the active roster. It's going to be tough though because I'm sure all of these kids he's facing tonight feel like they have something to prove. And there is some serious, if not matured, talent on that team.
Facing off against Arroyo will be righty Dallas Buck, who the Reds acquired in the Adam Dunn deal. I have no idea who will be starting tonight for the Reds, but they are carrying 30 players on their roster right now, so we might see a couple guys in there that won't be there on Monday.
I really wish this game was on TV because I'd love to see the youngsters for myself, but I'll be listening on the radio to see if I can pick out who Marty already doesn't like.
By the way, I'm predicting a 4-2 win by the youngsters today. And there will be much gnashing of teeth.
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with the weather being bad in northwest PA, I prolly can't get the radio signal
hope there’s a gameday link or frequent updates here!
Reds fan for 40 years!
Possible Gameday link
It’s still showing only warmups.
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maybe he's a Mets fan
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by BubbaFan on Apr 3, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you is recresentin', BF
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by Colin Auscapee on Apr 3, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineups
Heisy RF
Valaika 2B
Francisco 3B
Fraizer LF
Alonso 1B
Stubbs CF
Dorn DH
Tatum C
Cozart SS
Reds
McDonald CF
Hairston SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Encarnacion 3B
Dickerson LF
Hernandez C
Castillo DH
I think I’m more excited by the Futures lineup than the Reds.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
might?
It’s been weeks since the Reds have scored more than 6 runs in one game.
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The Lineups
CAROLINA
Heisey RF
Valaika 2B
Francisco 3B
Frazier LF
Alonso 1B
Stuffs CF
Dorn DH
Tatus C
Cozart SS
Buck P
CINCINNATI
McDonald CF
Hairston SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Encarnacion 3B
Dickerson LF
Hernandez C
Castillo DH
Arroyo P
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lineups are in stereo tonight
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by Colin Auscapee on Apr 3, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Taveras is still hurting
from that liner to the ribs he took from Votto, i reckon
My millions are unconventional!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 3, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
but what if I'm disappointed because he's not doing good
like he’s one of my favorite players, or my uncle, or my brother’s best friend, or…
Reds fan for 40 years!
How many RRers
are at this game?
I’d love to have gone to this one. I seriously considered stopping off in Zebulon on my way home from Florida, but my boss wanted me back at work by April 1.
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Bronson
is trying to boost the confidence of the kids by letting them get on base.
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Alonso goes out yonder
three love the future
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that didn't take long
I think Arroyo is in for a bad year…
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he did get Francisco to GIDP
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3-0 youngsters after 1 full.
Bronson displaying a DL-level of suckitude.
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Hairston with a single
and Votto with a walk. no damage for the big kids in the 1st.
Dorn leads off the 2nd with a double to CF. the little kids look real eager tonight!
My millions are unconventional!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 3, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions
Arroyo has only gotten 2 of the first 7 batters out.
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I think Tatum could impress The Toothpick if he bunted Dorn to third right now.
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Damn, Brantley cannot even describe the game's events
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i really wish they had put this on TV
My millions are unconventional!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 3, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Francisco with an inside the park HR!
Futures up 6-0
Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)
how did that happen?
Did someone dive for a ball, or was it a merely a nubber that the Tot Terrorist just kept running on because there were babies garnished on plates at each base?
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Best I could gather ...
Dickerson overran it and completely lost where it was … Hairston had to point it out to him but by that time it was too late.
Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)
uh, boy
I hope the RR contingent isn’t too drunk to describe this one when they get back here.
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I don't care if he thinks he can pitch through it.
He’s sucking right now, in part because of it, and I don’t want to piss away the 5% chance we have of making the playoffs so golden boy can make his scheduled start and be all tough. Screw that nonsense – it’s time for extended spring training and HBVOC.
I now understand why Tonya Harding hired someone to injure a player on her team.
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damn skippy
i could give an eff how tough he is if he can’t get nobody out.
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by Colin Auscapee on Apr 3, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Buck GOs the side
Reds held to a 1B and a BB so far.
Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)
ashlarussalovechild
to keep it current for 5 years from now
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Oh my God. That's awful.
"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."
by Ash on Apr 3, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
only because it seems possible
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
IF you listen to Marty
It’s gonna happen
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by chandrathan on Apr 3, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitchin' Change: Coco now in for Carpel Bronson
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El Nino Destructor now in at shortstop!
If he pretends the grounders are babies, he might scoop them up capably.
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DL him
Let Bailey and Pwings start.
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I agree.
I think that you let him get over his injury and can’t you backdate it as well? I am not sure to how that backdating works for the DL. That and quantum mechanics eludes me.
I think that the last day you pitched in a ML Spring Training game is where you have to backdate to.
So backdating the DL move would only save about 2 days now. But margins can make a big difference in this game.
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i think you can backdate to the last game he played in
not sure if this counts, since it’s not real game
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Who cares how quickly we can get him back
if this is how he is pitching?
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by Colin Auscapee on Apr 3, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks both of you!
Now if someone could just help me with quantum mechanics…
a baseball...
…is like a wave and like a particle. But a lot more like a particle. ;-)
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by BubbaFan on Apr 3, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow...2 birds with one stone
I should come here more often
or two outcomes
but only one box o’ cat.
Or is it?
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I visited my sister her freshman year at art school
And she had a book someone had made about Schroedinger’s Cat, using line drawings and liberal use of the word, “Whoa.” It was one of the most awesome things I’d ever seen. Then she moved to a new apartment and lost it, and I’ve been hoping to come across it ever since.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 3, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
In Search of the Schroedinger's Cat Art Book?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
the next book on my list is "In Search of Schroedinger's Cat"
I’ll explain everything to you in a couple of weeks.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Coco strikes out Tatum swinging to lead off the 4th.
But Ramon Hernandez is charged w/ a passed ball, and Tatum scrappies his way to 1st.
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Cozart GO FC.
Cozart at 1st, 1 out. Youngsters lead 6-0 in the top of 4, and it hasn’t looked that close.
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hmmm
maybe we should use the futures lineup for the season
"strikeouts are alot sexier than groundouts"
well
I guess he made up for losing that ball in the outfield.
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where'd the tenth run come from?
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Nevermind
GD has been updated and now shows 10-1.
The missed a run in the top of the inning.
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Holy cow
Those are some ugly ERAs.
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You know what would make this game more fun?
Me not living in Tennessee.
Seriously though, I am conflicted right now.
you have to be f'ing kidding me
marty saying last spot down to gomes or mcdonald.
my enthusiasm for the season will disappear if mcdonald makes this club.
If recent events are any indicator
The Reds are going to come out smoking!
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this would be a reasonably close game
If Arroyo hadn’t given up those six runs.
Dear Bronson,
Please go on the DL. Come back when you can put up an ERA lower than the average age of those girls on your boat. Homer will keep your rubber warm. Thanx.
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by BubbaFan on Apr 3, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
rec'd
for crafty, clever naughtiness…the best kind.
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Hell, at this point...
Asking for an ERA lower than the average age of those girls on his boat might be damn optimistic.
Me? I’d settle for an ERA lower than the average of the Drew Stubbs, er I mean busts, of the girls on this boat at this point.
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 3, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
The New Yankee Stadium has been christened. Yes, we just had our first “Pastadiving” Jeter in the new digs!
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It's a little weird
It looks like the old stadium, then suddenly the camera will pan over and you see the difference.
Everything that used to be royal blue is now navy blue. It matches the uniforms better, but doesn’t look as good on TV, IMO. Too dark.
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Three run homer for Cody Ransom
Alex who?
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oh, and...
…Paul O’Neill picked the Reds for his 2009 sleeper team.
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El Nino Destructor has now played 4 innings of errorless ball at shortstop.
Roar.
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More Futures action (off Lincoln this time)
Stubbs 3B
Soto RBI 2B
Mesaraco RBI 1B
Can we just trade offenses already?
Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)
Honestly, I'm a little curious about McDonald
He was a highly touted prospect, never made it, but still athletic, and put together a decent string. As 25th men go, I think we could do worse.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 3, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked pretty crappy in center...
And looked pretty overmatched in the batter’s box, too.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
I'm equally okay leaving him off the ML roster
It’s just that for a guy I’d never heard of coming into spring training, he wasn’t terrible.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 4, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't completely unimpressed by Gomes.
He did hit a double off of a right-handed (AA) pitcher. Looked less than stellar in left, though.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
How quickly we forget
You know who else was a highly touted prospect, never made it, still athletic, and put together a decent string of at bats in March and April? Corey Patterson. And we all know how that worked out.
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by BK on Apr 4, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
quite honestly there's nothing to be embarrassed about
our farm boys are good! if there is anything to be embarrassed about, it’s not having those guys on the big league team.
what money is being wasted?
not to be combative, but i dont see a single burdensome contract on this roster, other than CoCo of course.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 3, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
T-Virus was overpaid, but not burdensome.
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Half of this AA team are better than our starters
but because of the money invested (wasted) in the starters, they won’t play with the REDS unless someone gets hurt. To me, that’s a waste. For example EdE, Gonzalez, Weathers, Lincoln, Hernandez, T-Virus, Co-Co, Arroyo. How much money is being thrown at those guys, instead of minimum salary players that are probably better, or at least a lot cheaper without reducing the talent level much.
And I’m not trying to be difficult, either, but that to me is a waste!
With the talent level we have, why weren’t some of these guys traded, even at a loss, when we have capable players to replace them at a fraction of the cost. Bronson Arroyo and EdE, both of whom I like very much, are perfect examples of this.
Reds fan for 40 years!
There also has to be a question of effort doesn't there?
I would assert that the MLB team is playing to not get hurt, and get through the game as quickly as possible. While the Future Team consists of players who want to show what they can do against MLB players. Thus the game means more for a Chris Heisey than a Brandon Phillips.
I don't believe the Reds have anybody that could be as good as Arroyo or EdE
for an entire season to replace them. Maybe Bailey, but just two months ago the general consensus was that he had no real shot at the rotation. Maybe he’s figured it out. I hope so, but I’m not dumping Arroyo – who is worth at least what he is paid – on a shot that Homer has it figured out. The Reds have a lot of prospects at 3B, but I don’t think any of them could outhit EdE in 2009 at the Major League level. None of them have played a game above A-ball. Defensively, now that’s another question.
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I respectfully agree
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by PeteyHendrix on Apr 4, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I disrespectfully agree
fuck you for being right, Slyde
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by Colin Auscapee on Apr 4, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm thinking...
moving dickerson to center and starting half of the futures team in left would be better than the current situation.
i dont think so
You’re making a silly argument based on a small set of data—1 instance in fact.
Plenty of teams around the league will lose to their futures in their games. It’s pretty meaningless. Time and time again it’s been proven that ST stats are meaningless for many players. This is true across all sports. Especially for guaranteed starters such as Arroyo. You don’t know if he was practicing something new or different. Or he could be affected by an injury in this case.
Look around the league at ST stats. The Phillies, for example, have a nearly identical record to the Reds. Do you think that means the two will fare similarly in the regular season? The regular season isn’t a sprint. You need pros who can hit for months.
Jeez
Chris Heisey is 3 for 3 tonight.
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And El Nino Destructor turns 2 from SS to end the game.
Futures 12, Reds 4.
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need we say roar?
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by Colin Auscapee on Apr 3, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Errorless day at SS for the Tot Terrorist.
Someone esplain to me why he was at SS, and if it’s a good thing.
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I doubt it
he hasn’t played in almost 2 weeks with the big league team.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I'm not sure what was up with that
Francisco and Zach Cozart swapped places in the middle of the 2nd. No one left the game, they just switched positions. Cozart usually plays SS, so I’m not sure why they moved him to 3B. If he was injured, you’d think they’d bench him, rather than move him to 3B.
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And Cozart went on to make 2 throwing errors at 3B.
Queer.
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for one game
and there was easily more on the line for the futures than the big league squad.
The only thing I’m concerned about out of this is Arroyo. He was getting hit hard from the get go. If he’s not healthy, put him on the DL.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Same with Cordero
If these guys pitch for two weeks and keep getting rocked, I’m gonna be pissed.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
yeah
The game thread at the new Red Letter Daze forum titled their lineups, “Really Wishing They Could Be the Other Guys” and “Really Wishing They Didn’t Have to Be Here.”
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what's Red Letter Daze?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
It's a new Reds forum
Near as I can tell, it was started by denizens of C. Trent’s old Reds blog. With Trent’s help. I guess Fay’s blog and Trent’s new home don’t do it for them. It’s hosted by the Enquirer, so if you have an Enquirer login, you can use it at Red Letter Daze.
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Which Mr. Redlegs is that?
the nice one or the jerk that insults everybody?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
He's being quite civilized lately
But I’ve also seen him be quite a jerk, including to Trent.
OTOH, maybe it wasn’t actually him. That’s the confusing thing about Blogger blogs. Anyone can post under any name, and there was so much impostering going on over there, it wasn’t funny.
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Slyde
It’s the MRL who loves to insult everyone and has an all-knowing attitude—in other words, a real jerk.
Red
one game
yeah I know, I’m just being negative for the sake of being negative. apparently after seeing the results of this game, we might have only a limited amount of time to be negative about this team so I better get it in now
odd
i remember playing jv basketball and somewhat regularly defeating the varsity in scrimmages. granted we practiced against each other every day and knew their strengths and weaknesses to a T…but it goes without saying that our varsity record was considerably better than theirs once it was our turn.
(note: obc was sidelined with torn ankle ligaments, twice, and didnt contribute to said success)
im hoping i see the same striking parallel in a couple years.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Prolly Junior.
Zing!
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by PeteyHendrix on Apr 3, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonzalez is leading this race right now
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by BK on Apr 3, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Lincoln
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put him on the dl anyway
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by chandrathan on Apr 3, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And hopefully, he'll bounce back
but I would have no problem having Bailey or Thompson in his place.
It could be a huge waste!
Reds fan for 40 years!
If he's healthy
then I suspect he’s not really pitching still, just getting work in.
But I think the carpal tunnel is affecting him more than he admits.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Holy crap, our first stringers got killed.
Pictures slightly after 11.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
So glad Mrs. M and i went to 'Sunshine Cleaners'
Fluffy, fun and bit geeky…but so much better than the futures game
This girl is as cute as engaging as Jenna Fisher
Its probably going to happen - bend over
You think she looks good now?
You should have seen her a few years ago. Mwrow!
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by PeteyHendrix on Apr 4, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh so you know her too?
Petey you know everybody!
Can I get a job as your valet…as long as I can commute that is
Its probably going to happen - bend over
My comment was actually a quote from Michael Scott in the pilot episode of The Office when he first intorduces her.
I’ve never met Jenna face-to-face, but we did work together briefly a few years back when I got to edit a special episode of The Office. There’s probably a better link of it out there somewhere, but for fans, it’s some tasty bonus material that you may not have ever seen. And it’s really funny.
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