Game 17: Braves at Reds
by Slyde on Apr 25, 2009 11:00 AM EDT
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Today I'm going to talk to you about a little thing I like to call offense. You may not ever have heard of it because the Reds don't really have one this year. After 16 games, the Reds rank 2nd to last in the NL in batting average (.229), 3rd to last in OBP (.316), and last in SLG (.353). To give you an idea of how bad the Reds offense is, the St. Louis Cardinals lead the league with a .302 batting average, just 14 points lower than the Reds' on base percentage, and just 51 points below their slugging percentage.
The Reds have scored more than 4 runs just once in their last 9 games, averaging just 3.1 R/G over that span. Only 2 of their 9 batters with at least 2 PA per game have a batting average over .240. Similarly, only 2 hitters have a slugging percentage over .400.
The non-Joey Votto portion of this team is batting .209/.300/.314. Take out Votto and this entire team is Paul Bako. Let that sink in for a bit.
Obviously things have to change. Hopefully things will change. This team has more hitting talent than it has shown so far, but I sure wish there was actual production to back those words up. I knew the offense would be bad, but this is ridiculous.
Two former Red Sox face off on the mound today. Bronson Arroyo has been strong in his last two starts, only needing 81 pitches to go 7 full innings last Monday. He faced the Braves once last season and didn't make it out of the 2nd inning after giving up 7 runs on 7 hits. Obviously he hopes to do better today.
Derek Lowe has been pretty good in his first four starts as the Braves ace. He took the loss in Washington last Monday as he faced off against Nationals' rookie Jordan Zimmerman. He's been uncharacteristically wild so far this year, walking over 4 batters per 9 innings after walking under 2 per 9 IP last season. Since the Reds haven't been hitting the ball much, hopefully they can manage to take advantage of some wildness and get some HAVOC going on the base paths. It seems like that's our only hope to score runs these days.
It'll be another beautful day at the old ball park. Here's hoping the home team can make it a winning one as well!
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These day games are awesome. I keep falling asleep for innings 7-8-9, so it’ll be a welcome change to actually hear a whole game. I assume the start time means that it’ll be on FOX?
no
i think its just FSN
Consider the Eskimos.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 25, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Derek Lowe?
I was hoping he’d be pitching at GABP this summer.
unfortunately it still didn’t work out like i’d hoped
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by chandrathan on Apr 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
i was hoping Lincecum woulda been pitching @ GABP this summer
unfortunately that didnt work out like i’d hoped, either.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
Just got done cutting the grass
Holy shit it’s nice outside. Won’t be watching the game today. WAY to nice to be indoors.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
i'll be leaving the game thread
after the baby’s nap is over.
we are headed to the park this afternoon
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by chandrathan on Apr 25, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If you insist on being outdoors...
Would you like to come over and cut the grass here? It’s like the freaking Amazon. I’d offer you beer, but you’ve got your own stash…
"I'm going to kick the fire with cheese!"
Ahaha!
I just saw that you’re running low. Now I have something to bargain with!
"I'm going to kick the fire with cheese!"
things people don't worry about
Slyde: Your beer, because he’s got a case in the garage.
JCH: your ads because he’s got firefox with adblock
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by chandrathan on Apr 25, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
How's the weather in Birkdale?
I got to go down to the stadium and whip batteries at the players on both teams. - Philly Boy Roy
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 25, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
I'm here and alive
been mostly dead the past few days but I made it.
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you're half alive but feel mostly dead?
just try to tell yourself it’ll be alright
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by chandrathan on Apr 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Princess Bride'd
Got knocked up with some nitrous oxide at the dentist office but its all good now. I enjoyed it though.
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eh...i didn't get it
i was going for jewel’d
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by chandrathan on Apr 25, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
you made a Jewel reference?
That’s at least two man cards, youre only down to one
by johnny cueto thinks we're sellouts on Apr 25, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty sure you're being very, very generous here.
"I'm going to kick the fire with cheese!"
by Ash on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you need a mutton, lettuce, and tomato sandwich
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 25, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hiya folks!
Bronson Arroyo…man…
I went to the game he pitched at Turner Field in ’07 on my birthday and he absolutely dominated the Braves. It was a tough birthday…
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Now, Yunel...
That’s how you’re supposed to respond to getting hit.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Apparently Bronson has done the impossible
he’s developed a perpetual WHIP machine
by johnny cueto thinks we're sellouts on Apr 25, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
2 runs already?
Does this mean it’s a Badrroyo day?
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I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
Damn sorry Johnny imissed the reply button
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
its 7 pounds
Thats like 11 bucks real money. As much as I want to read about that, its a pretty expensive mag
by johnny cueto thinks we're sellouts on Apr 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineup today with out T-Virus
C Dickerson LF
J Hairston Jr. CF
J Votto 1B
B Phillips 2B
J Bruce RF
E Encarnacion 3B
A Gonzalez SS
R Hanigan C
B Arroyo P
Still dragging EdE, gonzo and RayMoan along (C-Dick too)
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
They probably should've...
just kept him on the bases…wear him down. Shoulda thought of that in the .056 seconds he had to contemplate it.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
How did I not hear that Jeff Tweedy threw out the first pitch in Milwaukee?
And nice of Trent to name drop Wilco with Marty.
good thing I'm drinking
Unfortunately, in one hour I will probably be taking the last test in my life (excluding sobriety and paternity)
by johnny cueto thinks we're sellouts on Apr 25, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
So...
this isn’t the same pitcher from my birthday.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
No, its the pitcher that stays out all night partying
So he can’t pitch day games
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The Braves Announcers mentioned...
that he had to cut down on playing the guitar. Maybe he’s still very upset.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Lowe!
Ground balls, not fly balls. Geeezzz….
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Sea Bass got them apple bottom jeans
Shorty got Lowe.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
I’d like a see a few more of those from the line up today… at least until we get caught up
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that song...
with the apple bottom jeans and the low[e] is his at-bat song.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Hey guys
Geez…rough start so far today.
by Who's on First? on Apr 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
Bronson's just enjoying the beautiful day
Either that or the sunlight is murder on his hangover.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Arroyo
has an interesting wind-up. His leg is completely straight when he kicks it up.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
I don't even know what to say to that...
It’s kinda weird. Maybe it reminds me of gymnastics…
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
me, too
It’s irresistible. You see that leg kick, you have to photograph it.
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Everyone's trying it
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
I hope Schafer's ok.
There has been a lot of that fouling pitches off the foot thing happening this year…
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Well iam at work and just checked in
What the hell…well at least HanniganMan is in and HAS PRODUCED ANOTHER HIT
Taveras stayed… up way late with Dusty’s daughter…..
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
The Braves' announcers are talking about Sevendust
They have a new album coming out, you know.
\m/
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Not in the least
They had some sort of ad tie-in trivia question about who listed to Sevendust on their Verizon phone or something (Peter Moylan, FYI), and then continued talking about “the boys” afterwards.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
I meant the metal hands
Wouldn’t have figured you for a ’dust brother.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The metal hands were ironic, yes
I haven’t listened to Sevendust in many a moon.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Dusty told him he looked like a little penis with a hat on
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Holy fuck, Dusty got ejected?
That never happens. Don’t screw with Cherry, Estabrook! Dusty will END YOU!
Cherry
Was he arguing balls and strikes?
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I think so
He struck out on four pitches and GameDay showed them all out of the zone, or at least highly questionable.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Who got tossed?
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
Can't say that I'm sad Hairston is out of the game...
I don’t like him much. Well, ever since the…uh, you know…
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Badroyyo today is see
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Apr 25, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Allright the little Gnome guy takes his rightful place
I predict a victory and Hello Dad
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
Will McFlurry take over in CF or will it be Wily
the excitement is almost unfuckingbearable
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
Need a rubdown?
Dusty’s not doing anything right now.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Apr 25, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay Bruce got plunked on the hand a week or so ago
He missed three games, but when he came back he started hitting home runs. Maybe it’s for the best.
…It didn’t hit his pointing hand, did it?
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year...
Alfonso Soriano got plunked on the hand and had to miss like a month. (We won’t talk about which team plunked him, though…)
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Hey...
He did hit a homerun. Maybe you’re on to something.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
This ump is horrible
I’m surprised he didn’t toss him
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's on my hate list now
Last night was just ridiculous
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Yunel is on a lot of "hate lists"
He’s a fiery character.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Derek Lowe's a good pitcher
We can expect those out of him from time to time.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
My plan to watch the game...
and write my paper is not being executed very well.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Not that I don't enjoy having you around
But I think you could pretty safely turn this off, assured that Atlanta will preserve the victory.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
"What do you think about Little Lady's execution?"
“I’m in favor of it.”
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
One wonders if Bobby Cox will seize this opportunity
To show Dusty how getting tossed is done.
…with syrup.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby's been...
surprisingly mellow this year. It’s annoying.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
He's just been beating his wife more I suppose.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Apr 25, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the same ump that was behind home plate last night
wasn’t it?
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
usually they rotate
So it’s not the ump behind the plate.
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Maybe it was retribution
for Cherry’s third “strike”
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda suprised we're not seeing Bronson's personal shortstop as well
Especially since Dusty only made the comment that Gonzalez would play in four games (the three Cubs games and yesterday’s homestand opener). But here he is in his fifth consecutive game, hitting homers and just everything!
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it when old weeble-wobble pops out to argue
Did you guys just see him mouth: “If you don’t watch it, I’ll beat your wife’s ass too.”
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Apr 25, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go outside
If nothing else, you’ll probably strike out a Hairston or two.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I just happened to pop in to see that at bat
and I was just here to see if we needed a new game thread. I was fairly confident that we didn’t, just as I am that the Reds won’t win.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I agree
Welsh said he’s actually a minor league ump that is a replacement
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that's appropriate
this is basically a minor league quality lineup right now too.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I think the one at third...
holds that distinction.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
He's pretty much just calling everything a strike, isn't he?
How is Bronson not also taking advantage?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Oh, the announcer was wrong.
Dickerson apparently can’t deal with wind. At all.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
How many balls have hit off his freaking glove?
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I've said it before
I am not in love with his defense. Great speed, but that’s about it.
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I hate hearing about Adam Wainwright...
like he’s a god that the Braves let slip through their fingers.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
My coworker went to the same high school as him
I’m sick of hearing about him too. Or really anything else that has to do with Dublin, GA.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
We're not even playing the Cards...
I feel sorry for you guys playing in the same division as the Cards and Cubs.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
I like how he gets mad when he almost gets hit
Even though he sits on the plate
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He acted like that one almost hit him...
and it was almost in the strike zone.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Yunel says
In-Ya-Face soon to be last place Reds!
SuperStar Fred McGriff gives this post his "full endorsahment"!
by Molly Flogger on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Molly...
Don’t be rude. These are good people here.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
And besides
The Astros will keep us out of last place.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The encouragement of violence
angers Yunel, I have no say in that.
SuperStar Fred McGriff gives this post his "full endorsahment"!
by Molly Flogger on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So is Escobar a Hall-Star?
Or just some guy that I really don’t like?
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So Taveras is out...
because we hate to start three guys batting at least .250, right?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
HOMERUN
Braves getting double pits to chesty with it!
No, it's registered to a person by the name of Fakeo Private
battlekow’s real name is Guy Incognito.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's jealous
Of our new guest poster.
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It will just mean you've made some powerful enemies in Whitefish Bay, WI
Can you live with that?
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
(note to self:
Do not go to Whitefish Bay, WI)
(gulp) Yes?
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
He struck out Chipper
That earns him love from me.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
did you know that odessa high school is the school friday night lights is about?
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by chandrathan on Apr 25, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He's ending this game quicker
which is a blessing in itself
by chesirecat on Apr 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know twitter is cool and all
but when a volcano has its own feed…I think it gets a bit out of hand.
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I agree
It’s looking like Danny Ray instead of Bray was the right move.
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Is this the new "Edwin is not clutch"?
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's clearly an upgrade...
Dunn wouldn’t have caught those 2 pop flys earlier…. oh wait
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He just wants to stay on par with the rest of team
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
McDonald was at the plate
Just be happy the ball hit his bat
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
What did ya'll think about Dunn?
I remember last summer someone saying that Dunn was lethargic and didn’t play hard, etc…
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Those were pretty common complaints throughout much of Cincinnati
Most of the people here liked him, particularly his ability to hit loads of home runs and get on base a bunch. Plus he was a really jocular guy. Needless to say, we’re doing just fine without his offense now.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to find a more divisive Red than Dunn
I loved the guy. He always produced and had a great sense of humor. Maybe not a huge clubhouse presence, but a really worthy guy to have nonetheless.
I kinda wished the Braves got him.
But, I have seen him play the outfield and it was pretty bad. Then again, our left field defense has been pretty bad.
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Yeah, that was BS.
He was a polarizing figure, since he gets a lot of HRs, walks, and strikeouts.
He also had a reputation for being a significantly below average left fielder. By most metrics, though, he was a solidly average fielder last year.
That said, he’s gone. Many of us wish he weren’t, but there’s not much to do about it.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Why worry?
Jocketty on Thursday:
“I know we’re going to hit,” he said. “Guys like Brandon [Phillips] and Edwin [Encarnacion] and [Alex] Gonzalez are not going to hit under .200. I think when the weather gets a little better, you traditionally see the bats get a little better. We just have to continue to pitch well, because that will be our formula — pitch well and play good defense. The bats will come. I’m not that worried about it.”
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Oh yeah
I forgot about that Pitching and Defense bit
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya'll realize...
that was Norton’s first hit of the season?
"If I had a little humility, I would be perfect" - Ted Turner
Lincoln hasn't been too impressive this year...
He’s now allowed runs in four of seven appearances.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I'm already worried about him
He doesn’t look nearly as good as he did last year
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 25, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
last offseason
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by chandrathan on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He's also now batting .455
Hanigan enters this at-bat hitting .385. Thank goodness they don’t play much.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially since 1-6 in the batting order did so much to carry the team.
I mean, 1 for 22 is AWESOME!
holy cow!
What a battle by Janish.
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Fitting end to this crap-fest
11 Ks
5 Starters under .200 BA
Arroyo gives up 9 ER
Top 6 guys in the order have a .083 OBP for the game.
But really, numbers can’t quantify how shitty of a game this was.
by chesirecat on Apr 25, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It pretty much is
But since I’ve spent a long time writing stuff out, I’m gonna go ahead with what I’ve got.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Dickerson
back on the Interstate!
If he keeps this up, he’s going to owe Daedalus an apology.
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by BubbaFan on Apr 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Missed today's game for the most part...
Yes Rosales can play left field OR SS
today’s quick look at the offense
C-Dick o-5 4ks .195 on his way to AAA
BP 0-4 .161
EdE. 0-4 .145
Gonzo 1-4 .152
Pathetic…
Meanwhile
Nix 1-2 .263
Hqnnigan 2-3, 1BB .357
Jannish 1-1 .454
Bruce 1-3 .245
Votto 0-3 .358
Bad Bronson today but no O.
Until something changes it is time to play Hannigan, Jannish, more of Nix and bring Adam Rosales up.
The red’s are terribly vulnerable offensively..a bad day by a pitcher is usually going to equate to a loss.
I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....
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