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Holding my breath...

I live in the Cincinnati area and today I heard on 700 WLW P Doc was saying how he wants to "Ride this wave of winning" and "get completely pumped up." Where as I am just as excited as him and a lot of other people, still I hold my breath. I remember maybe 4 seasons ago I'm not sure exactly what season it was but the Reds were very decent at the start. I think through 20 games they were in first place and it seemed that we finally had a good team to cheer for and the feeling was all positive. Almost the next week everything went to hell in a hand basket instantly. I'm not saying I think this will happen again with this team. I'm just afraid of letting myself get too involved because of what Cincinnati teams have done to me in the past and the high probablility of it happening to me again. I don't want to feel that extreme dissapointment again. I used to live and die by the Bengals until the 2006 season tore me to shreds. The reds have done this to me before as well. I feel like if I don't get my hopes up and "get pumped" than I'll be a bad fan wich we have an abundance of in Cincinnati. There in lies my dilemma....

 

Get pumped or to not get pumped? That is the question.

Any sports fan wisdom would be appreciated especially if you're from the 513.

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I mean, Harang and Cueto probably aren't sustainable at this rate

and Votto may not be. Bullpen is going to crash and burn eventually. But everyoneelseontheoffense will at least get a bit better.

Optimism is fun, I agree, but it ought to at least be tempered. But this may be the year and blah blah blah, right?

Drinking Slyde's haterade since 2009.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

614 here, but i will lend my perspective

I can see the Reds being competitive for portions of the season, possibly nipping at some heels in September, but I don’t see them leading the division or being front runners for the wildcard for more than a week or two cumulatively over the course of the season.

The offense will eventually level-off at a mediocre level. Lots of question marks here. Will Bruce step forward? Will Votto keep up something like this? T-Virus, aging vets, and Dickerson. I think we have probably seen the best that EdE and BP have to offer, and they will drift towards their career numbers. My only guess as to how it will all shake out is: nothing to write home about.

The starters will keep the Reds in a lot of games, but the youngsters (and Arroyo) will occasionally get rocked — and I do not foresee many four, five run deficits being overcome

(partly because) I have to believe, with Cy, that this bullpen will have some serious ups and downs. I think Masset will eventually force his own release, as for Rhodes, Weathers, and Lincoln . . . we’ll see. plenty of potential help at Louisville if any old men have to hit the DL

I could see the Reds flirting with .500, but I don’t expect it. I say watch the young guys and keep an eye on Louisville and Carolina. I am sure we will see a lot of guys in September.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand

by saboscork on Apr 23, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bottom line

if they stay healthy…especially the rotation.

the rotation is strong.the lineup is suspect but IF they stay healthy and make some strides…it can be interesting.

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 23, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that wrong at first.

I saw:

 IF they stay healthy and TAKE SOME STEROIDS… it can be interesting.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Apr 24, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

Where could this team possibly go from where they are now? Are they going to falter as we are all expecting and waiting for? Is it smart to “ride the wave” as Dougherty says. Personally I think this team has some serious ass kicking potential. But how long can Cordero keep this up? How long untill “Stormy” Weathers shows how he got that nickname. Owings obviously can’t be a starting pitcher unless he gets 8 runs in support, this team aint doin that. Will Taveras keep getting on base all the time? Will Votto hit .300 this season? Jay Bruce shows random signs of excellent patience and quick contact hitting at the plate but sometimes he looks like hes just some random guy up there off the street without a clue. I know Hernandez won us a game in Houston but seriously, we need a catcher who can hit the damn ball and not ground out every at bat. I’m not asking for a .300 hitting catcher, just a decent .260 y’know? And what really erks me almost more than anything is Edwin. What kind hitter is this guy? Honestly, what does EE do on a regular basis? He is a contact hitter yet one of his big stories from last season was that he was focusing on hitting a bunch of homeruns and now he is focusing apparently on patience at the plate. Somebody needs to just tell this guy to go out there and get hits and be comfortable.

Is Joey Votto better than Chris Sabo?

Lots to think about with this team…

by Sukottosan on Apr 24, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Joey Votto is MUCH better than Chris Sabo

Sabo’s best season (1991) wasn’t as good at Votto’s rookie season. The only advantage that Sabo had was he played a harder defensive position, but he didn’t play it well enough to make up for the offensive difference.

We all know that the bullpen is going to have some slip ups, just as we’re all fairly confident that both BP and EdE will start hitting again. I think this team will fluctuate back and forth and likely end up plus-or-minus 5-games around .500. There will be stretches of dominance and there will be stretches of misery. Right now, they are on the positive side.

I say just ride the wave and enjoy it while it is going good. There’s probably a bad stretch sitting right around the corner, but for now things are fun. Bask, I say! Bask!

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 24, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell yeahz

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Basque?

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

The Basque separatists whom the Spanish president wanted to blame for the train bombings instead of Al Qaeda.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Apr 24, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

REDS REDS REDS BLAH BLAH

Just for a moment lets talk bowling…
Although the Madisonville Comets took 3 out of 4 tonight, your RR representative, MADS was not on his game
I am ashamed to even list my scores but feel the need for an internal purging;
130
168
188

There now you know even Madville can have an EdE kind of night, a BP AB, a Mike Lincoln inning…

Oh and by the way Joey Votto is better now than Chris Sabo and will be in the record books long after Sabo’s name is remembered like Gene Freese’.
I predict, and not even boldly that Votto and Bruce will go down in Red’s History as one of the great 3-4 hitter in club history..

Back to bowling…you don’t know what its like to be so close to winning the league then only to slip – once, twice suddenly we are in 5th place (out of 14) and go into position round with only a faint chance of getting as high as 3rd.. Those of you who are still young..mark my words – Bowling is a terrible addiction fraught with old smelly men – women who are thin and stretched or bulbous and loud and also the oily lanes that reduce you to a whimper..

these 20 something girls are being eaten alive by bowling addiction

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 24, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bowling thoughts....

You, sir, are living a lie.

Bowling at an indoor alley is the equivalent to a ping pong stating he plays indoor tennis.

here’s real bowling

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

crap

“equivalent to a ping pong player stating he plays indoor tennis”

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today's bowling is like baseball in a domed stadium.

Joey Votto has bowled a 256
I must brag that my best is a 274
I believe that bowling is a very spiritual exercise and that the libations partaken in the spiritual endeavor are merely a spiritual
lubricant in one’s quest to be closer to God.

Here’s our liturgical scriptures

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 24, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think I've said this before, but

if I were gay and attracted to older men, I’d ask you to wear white cutoff jeans and a leather vest. You’d get lots of spankings.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tmi

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 24, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, if I ever bowl a 188, I'm buying drinks

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to do that regularly

and I felt no great sense of satisfaction. So, I just cut out the middle man and went to a bar filled with fat women in spandex.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta hang out with you more often!

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure do.

The babies that you’ll produce after those evenings will certainly have more heft.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll go to Atlanta

and we’ll go here. One of my favorite places on earth, no joke. (Watch to documentary…it’ll get you hot)

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure I'm allowed back in Atlanta :)

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

wow.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Apr 24, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If i ever bowl a 188

I’ll scratch that off my list and join a Dart League @ Shimmer’s.

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bowling?

I didn’t pay for any bowling.

Oh. That was boweling…

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Apr 24, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just a 650'er here, watching Extra Innings

I’m optimistic about a modest goal: a winning season. I think we’ve got a decent shot at 82 wins, and I would count that as a Very Good Thing — especially since there’s more help on the way in Alonso, Frazier, Stubbs, Thompson, etc. It’s not too hard to see 2009 shaping up as barely above .500, and 2010-11 being playoff-contention years.

Now that’s exciting.

by bbjones on Apr 24, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which...

My only job opportunity in the near future appears to be working for a development company run by a Chilean friend in Chile outside of Santiago. Verka, you’ve got a lot of experience in LA, will I be doing more harm than good?

by chesirecat on Apr 24, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I have only been in the LA airport.

Ok, but seriously…

 I suppose we would need to begin by defining the terms “harm” and “good” and “development.”

“Development” as we currently know it tends to do more “harm” than “good” in the sense that it is harmful that the gap between those that have too much and those that have not very much is increasing. The majority of the world is not being included in any sort of “development,” and many of those that are face exploitation and environmental degradation.

That said, go, experience it and decide for yourself what those terms mean.

Tanzen!

by Verka Serduchka on Apr 24, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be repairing a public school that got flooded out.

and ostensibly, that is a good thing. I dunno though, I hate those American kids that do this sort of thing so they can basically feel better about themselves. And yeah thanks, point taken about “development.”

by chesirecat on Apr 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Votto talk

I’m not sure I want Votto in LF in a couple years. Assuming that he continues to produce at a 2009 ytd level I’d think it would be foolish to have him switch positions.

Yonder may be the odd man out…

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I do think that Walt

will be active in the trade market in the next few years. Hopefully he’ll swap some of these no position IF/OF types to fill needs. I do however like the fact that we seem to have options for attractive trade bait.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's something that might be hard for many Reds fans to stomach

but the Reds are going to have to trade some of these prospects we’ve been drooling over. It’s almost a necessity, otherwise it would be a waste of talent. Look for Walt to try to work deals to bring in pitching some time in the next two years. The good news, if the talent we have keeps developing positively, there should be plenty of depth in the pipeline to deal.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 24, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My crazy dream

The team starts winning consistently, improving attendance and revenue. Then Waly pulls the trigger on a huge deadline deal in 2010 or more likely 2011, landing a huge name who then signs an extension, ensuring many winning years thereafter.

And everyone lives happily ever after.

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like when the Reds traded for Junya

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You shut your mouth damnit

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think what the Brewers did last year is the more likely path

Trading for a big name for the stretch run and then losing that player to free agency.

This is why I think it is very important to lock up young players before arbitration hits. Get that cost certainty so that you know what you can afford to do on the trade market.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 24, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Along those lines,

What do you think the odds are the Reds follow the Tampa Bay route and lock up Votto (Bruce if he develops this season) for 6 or 7 years for a 40 million or so deal? Maybe do the same with Cueto, but pitchers are obviously a riskier bet.

by chesirecat on Apr 24, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a good point

Yonder is a super-prospect and all but until he starts mashing at AAA or better yet up here, I don’t even consider moving my second favorite Canadian ever.

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alannis Morisette?

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 24, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corey Hart?

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell yes

Strange Brew is a cult classic.

by chesirecat on Apr 24, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So much better than Branagh's Hamlet.

Sorry I ralphed on your sweater.

by teb7 on Apr 24, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elisha Cuthbert?

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on Apr 24, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Her eyebrow pencil choice is so 1990s

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 24, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

William Shatner?

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Apr 24, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Apr 24, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn I laughed right alound!!!

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 24, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i go game to game with the reds

right now, i’m pumped. i don’t expect to be over the long haul, but taking two out of three from the cubs is fun

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Apr 24, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It sure is.

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of crowd is there tonight coming off of a good road trip with nice weather. Sort of a fair-weather litmus test.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and its Team Picture Night + Fireworks

Hey….do you happen to know where to get some good wine @ GABP?

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good, um no.

There are no good wines there. They offer some shitty, grandma swill at the restaurants and club bars. I assume you heard about my difficulty locating wine for the chef.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

isnt chef capitalized?

if not it should be.

he should snuck it in on his person since it was so frigid opening day.

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It should be capitalized...

Reminds me of a story when I worked with him. He had a large group of uppities sitting at the Chef’s Table one night and one of the old ladies looked around the kitchen and noticed all of the talented staff members in the kitchen skillfully working away and she pipes up and asked: “So, how many chefs do you have working in the kitchen here?” To which he stopped, cocked an eyebrow and dead seriously said, “One.” She wasn’t sure if he was joking or not. He was not.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cant wait to see where he lands

I had a couple Coronas in Keystone last evening and I actually thought of Chef while looking out the window at Chalk. I hope he maintains a presence in N KY.

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 24, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will.

We’ve talked about it quite a bit and he’s invested too much time in creating a brand name here to just leave it… once all of this partnership bullshit is sorted out that is.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just as an interesting example of how winning colors perception

I was listening to Mark Packer’s radio show yesterday (Billy Packer’s son), and the producer of the show is an enormous Cubs fan from Chicago. And he and the whole crew started talking about how the Reds had a really potent offensive team this year. Nothing about pitching, nothing about how terribly over half the lineup is hitting, just that the offense was great.

It was strange to listen to.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Apr 24, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grain o' salt.

When a sports radio talk show producer grabs the mic and says “The Cubs… [anything]” you should know that’s almost the equivalent of Madville’s bowling recaps.

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 24, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, i was surprised

the Cubs fan producer understands baseball better and follows it more closely than all of the fifteen or so people that cycle through that show (including avowed Reds fan Darin Gantt).

He often tries to talk about sample size and stats in context during baseball discussions, but usually gets shouted down in favor of who’s “getting it done.”

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Apr 24, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, they just handled Zambrano.

Now ready yourself for the next four days during which the limited offense goes up against Javier Vasquez, Derek Lowe and Roy Oswalt. At first I thought, “Hey, at least they’re not facing lefties.” Then I checked the Reds splits and discovered that what little mashing they’re doing is coming at the expense of left handed pitching. So I don’t know what to expect between now and Tuesday (when, by the way, they face Wandy Rodriguez who just shut them out.)

I like this team (even Gonzalez and Hernandez) but I don’t know what to expect in the short run (ie 2009). I don’t think I’m getting excited for anything more than a run at .500 (maaaaybe 85 wins) until Jockety gets us another hitter. And I don’t think

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 24, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

..I want Jockety to in any way mortgage 2010-2012 to get that hitter just for this season.

It would have to be a player that the Reds can control at least through next season.

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 24, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this tem too

But Gonzales better get going soon and Hernanadez is just in the way of a younger more intense Ryan Hannigan.
We need a left Fielder..soon

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 24, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

er that's team

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 24, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I ain't scared of no Javier Vazquez

tellin' tales of drunkenness and cruelty

by Colin Auscapee on Apr 24, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FanGraphs called him Jazquez once

I don’t know if it was a typo or what, but I likes.

by Brendanukkah on Apr 24, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I CAN JAS QUEZ?

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on Apr 24, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

and it’s not going to be close.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casey wins Mr. Congeniality in a walk though

(Uh, sir? He’s not walking. That’s just the way he runs down the first base line.)

by Brendanukkah on Apr 24, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think of Casey as the really nice girl who lives down the hall in freshman year dorms

joining facebook groups like “I just like to smile, smilings my favorite” and being incredibly chatty and fun to be with.

Votto is more like the varsity soccer player who wonders why you’re wasting her damn time, I suppose.

Drinking Slyde's haterade since 2009.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

off topic (kind of)

does anyone know where the rhetorical flourish “and it isn’t even close” originated?

I’ve been looking around a bit, but can’t seem to find anything that points to an origin.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Apr 24, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like something tHom would say

did you ask him?

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 24, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Arizona is better than Cincinnati, and it isn't even close."

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

TREMENDOUS!

"I wanna listen to Elephants Gerald."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 24, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Clean up his pants

Envy our past......Fear our future

by btcoop71 on Apr 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do not know the factual answer to that but I'll riff with it.

I would suspect that it was organically derived from some sort of sport nomenclature, perhaps horse racing? Seems to me that sport diatribes lend themselves to more excessive exaggeration when comparing one thing to another that has no universally accepted means of comparison (my example: “Babe Ruth was better than Ty Cobb and it isn’t even close”). And the rhetoric needs to be outsized to match the champion boast. I really have no idea, but I gave it a whack.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Apr 24, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No No No

The real question is between Big Klu and The real Mayor – Tony Perez
Votto’s has a long way to go before he becomes as personable as Tony.
Or as creep as Dick Wagner

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 24, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't think I'd get an answer on that one.

I just want to see where Joey Votto sits y’know? Theres a lotta old school guys on here what do you guys think? Is Joey Votto the real deal or not? Is he anything like young Lee May or youn Klu? I don’t know if theres any that are that old school but I’m guessing there is people who can answer that question.

by Sukottosan on Apr 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From my perspective as a 60 yr. old guy who started taking the Red's seriously at age 8

Votto is the real deal. Period.
His confident demeanor, his no nonsense, disciplined approach to the game is more developed than either Lee May or Tony Perez were in their 2nd season. I really don’t remember Klu so i can’t say anything there…Votto stands like a major league ball player…he wills himself to hit the ball…he’s not too high not to low always seems to be even keeled. But not with out a sense of humor.

Oh yeah – the guy can fucking hit. He is disciplined and intelligent in reading the pitchers, their pitches and can hit the ball where it is pitched with authority and power.

He’s a little wooden as far as being personable but so was Lou Gherig…(although Votto is not him.)
He’s the real deal, a keeper and will be a productive better than average hitter and defender for a long time to come.
I guarantee it.

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

Klu’s career OPS+ was 123. Votto’s last year was 128. Klu’s TotalZone has him rated as an average-to-below-average defensive 1B, but those numbers only go back to 1955, so they do not account for the beginning of his career. Votto’s UZR last year rated him as a solidly above-average defensive 1B.

so you make an argument that Klu was a solidly average 1B over a number of years. that’s not Hall-worthy, but its still valuable. Votto played like a slightly-above-average 1B last year, in his rookie year. he has the potential to get better, but probably not perennial-all-star better. in the end, we just dont know about Votto yet. he’s got his entire career ahead of him. but if he plays like he did in his rookie year for 10 years or so, then Votto > Klu.

Consider the Eskimos.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to agree

My only objection is that guys like Klu and Perez seemed to just have got it done, period. Constantly I might add. I’m worried we’re all giong to see this from Votto but then see him slip into Jason Larue type hitting because he reminds me of Larue sometimes. Not the .200 average but just in his aproach and overall contact style. If I remember right wasn’t Larue excellent in his early years and then struggled? This team badly needs consistant hitting. Not just consistant slugging but consistant contact and RBI production. I say Votto has got it as long as he doesnt slip into the Jason Larue/Brandon Larson sickness.

by Sukottosan on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LaRue put up one OPS+ over 100 in 2005

other than that he was pretty below average for a position player, and probably about average for a catcher, but he made up for it with a lot of pass balls.

Bloop

by justin007000 on Apr 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way - Joey has man skills

LaRue slunk around

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joey Votto

Is the real deal

by sharks on Apr 26, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thnak you for that confirmation

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 26, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

youer whelcum

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason LaRue won a AA batting title

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 27, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you mean AAU

Yuk Yuk

I want to be there when a trailer full of coffins slams into a an ambulance full of terminally ill Bolivians. Or when the Reds win a WS..whichever comes first....

by Madville on Apr 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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