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Red Reposter - 4/20/09

Adam Rosales is going bananas down in Louisville, and with the offense struggling the way it is Dusty was asked if we may see him promoted anytime soon.  "(B)ut where's he going to play?" was Dusty's refute.

Now, I'm not saying Rosales is some kind of savior for us.  I dont think he's a top prospect and I dont see him having All-Star potential in the bigs, but right now Alex Gonzalez is struggling something fierce and it's pretty obvious he is not ready to play everyday in the big leagues.  He missed all of last year and a fair amount of Spring Training, and it's really showing.  He has 1 hit in two weeks.  His defense may look ok, but his UZR looks really ugly so far.  The common refrain is that "it is still early", but after two weeks it is plainly obvious that Gonzo is not fit to be a regular shortstop in the major leagues right now.

So "where's (Rosales) going to play?"  I would suggest shortstop.  But since it seems Dusty Baker is unaware that Rosales can play shortstop (remember last year when he asked the same exact question of Rosales, only to pencil in Jolbert Cabrera??) I would propose that Janish get most of the playing time.  Anyone would be better than Gonzo right now.

I can understand and even appreciate that Dusty is a defense-first kinda guy when it comes to shortstop.  It's the second-most important defensive position on the field and as long as your other guys are hitting, you dont need your shortstop to do much.  And Gonzo has the reputation of being a slick fielder.  But Gonzo has 1 hit in two weeks.  1 hit in two weeks.  I am confident that I could get 1 hit if given two weeks-worth of major league pitches.  There comes a point where no amount of glove work can save a dead bat.  And even Gonzo's glove is struggling. 

So put him on the DL.  Send him down to A ball and let him get a full allotment of rehab at-bats.  If this team has any hopes of contending, we cannot afford to let Gonzo shake off the rust in games that count.  So let Janish take over at SS for the time being and bring up Rosales to be our utility infielder and bench bat.  The bench could use the boost too.

  • Aaron Harang is frustrated with the hitting too, blowing his stack after being pulled from Friday night's game.  “You pitch your heart out and have nothing to show for it,” he said. “It grinds on you. It’s been a tough year and a half. I reached that boiling point.”  These guys will start hitting sooner or later, right?
  • Hall o' Famer Hal tried to ask Micah Owings about his hitting exploits (his pinch-hit two-run double was the clincher in yesterday's game) but was cut off.  “Don’t even go there, Hal. I’m a pitcher. I know what you’re thinking. I’m working on getting ready to pitch Tuesday (in Chicago). I worked hard and I think I’ve made a lot of strides since what happened the other night (in Milwaukee he gave up 4 runs in 5 innings)."  I love how he hits, but honestly I dont know how well it would translate if he actually were moved into the everyday lineup.  I think he can be a league-average pitcher, and with his pinch-hitting prowess as a bonus I think he is fine just where he is.  Just keep doin' what yer doin' Micah.
  • Minor League Notebook gives us a rundown of Southern League leaders so far this season, and Farmer's Only Featured Farmhand Chris Heisey is at the top of a number of offensive catagories.  And remember, he's probably behind Todd Frazier, Juan Francisco, and Zach Cozart as far as positional prospects go on that team.

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Adam Rosales...

I think he doesn’t have enough speed for shortstop and is hitting too many home runs.

Of course he would not be able to play shortstop.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Apr 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure it's possible to call Rosales up

Well, it’s possible, but not to replace A-Gon. You’d have to swap Janish or Crabman for him, I would guess. You can’t put a player on the DL just because he sucks. While players on the bubble may agree to claim a phantom injury just to stay on the roster, A-Gon doesn’t have to, and I doubt he would go along with it.

I don’t like how Dusty is using Janish. He is buried so deep on the bench he hardly gets to see the light of day. That is not how you treat a player if you want him to be any good to you – especially a young player who is just getting the hang of big league pitching. And if Rosales is going to be behind Janish…forget it. He’s better off in Louisville.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 20, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Given Gonzalez's substantial injury history of late

along with the fact that he’s been simply terrible, I don’t think the Reds would have any trouble with him. The organization pretty much always gets what it wants in a situation like this, which makes sense given that they’re paying him and not the other way around.

Of course, the organization wants Alex Gonzalez starting at SS, and merely playing 9 innings is his standard for success, so we should probably get to hoping that he gives us a real reason to put him on the DL pretty soon if we wanna see any change.

by Geki on Apr 20, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you see that look in Gonzalez's eye?

That’s the look of a guy who’s daydreaming about a disabling but non-crippling injury.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 20, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bass player is the loser of the band, yes he is, if you don’t believe me take a look at the one you’re with.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 20, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not picking favorites

but invariably this one gets stuck in my head at least a couple of times during the baseball season. It used to be worse when Felipe was still with the team.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 20, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish you could DL people because they suck.

If that were the case, we could have DL’d Corey Patterson for most of the season after April.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Apr 20, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Break up the Marlins

I knew the Fish have been playing well but I just took a look at the standings and they’re 11-1! The 1990 Reds were a mere 10-2 after 12 games.

by Red Menace on Apr 20, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, but

6 of those wins have come against the 1-10 Nats.

I wonder how long it’ll take for Hernandez and Gonzo to be replaced by Janish/Hanigan on a more consistent basis. If HernaGon keep sucking for another week and still start everyday, the whole “Dusty always favors veterans” thing is going to gain serious cred.

As for Rosales, I would love to see him come up, but still start Janish at short and have him be the first bat off the bench. If y’all want to chip in, I’d be happy to fly to Houston and pull a Tonya Harding on Gonzo.

by nycredsfan on Apr 20, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but

The Nats might be 1-10 because they played the Fish. They slapped the Braves around too.

by ol Pete on Apr 20, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

HernaGon?

This contraction thing is going a bit too far.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Apr 20, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what she said!

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Apr 20, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I would have gone with Ramex Gonzandez

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Apr 20, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Freel's hurt

Took an errant pickoff throw to the head in the third inning. Ouch. He’s out now but he’ll be back – the little guy’s gotta lotta heart. /grande’d

Happy Patriots Day/Boston Marathon Day!

by ken on Apr 20, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you talking about Farney?

Of course, getting hit in the brain might mean the end of Farney as we know it.

by teb7 on Apr 20, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome

Freel gets plunked in the head and suddenly becomes a genius, leaves baseball to eventually cure cancer and find renewable energy.

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Apr 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan just lost his keys forever

“Shit, Farney usually takes care of that stuff…”

"I can eat mayonnaise with a spoon." - Jeff Brantley

by BK on Apr 20, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey teb

I saw Titus Andronicus last night. I was really impressed at how they were able to keep the melodic lines going (without keyboards!) through all the thrashing. Pretty good. They had a sound that seemed like it would translate well onto CD, although I didn’t pick one up.

Lucero was pretty good, although Ben Nichols (their frontman) got the drunkest I’ve seen any performer get. And I’ve seen Guided by Voices and the Pogues multiple times. They just got sloppy and had fun, scrapped their setlist and played whatever the audience shouted for them to play. That dude is one charming motherfucker, too. I feel that anyone who calls the Hold Steady “America’s Greatest Bar Band” has not yet seen Lucero (and I fucking love the Hold Steady).

by Brendanukkah on Apr 20, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I really wish I had been more on the ball about this because they were in Brooklyn on Saturday and I missed them. Crap. Glad you liked TA! I am a Hold Steady devotee and I am pumped about seeing them in an actual tiny bar this summer—I’d only ever seen them before at the first p-fork fest.

by teb7 on Apr 20, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

So "where's (Rosales) going to play?

I saw Rosales play SS in ST. He was more than adequate. Has a strong arm, got to the balls and was more mechanically sound than EdE. He’s no Jannish, but we’ll prolly never know if Jannish could develop strong enough hitting skills to gat more PT because he ISburied behind that golden handed Gonzo. Chuck has it right send Gonzo somewhere (AAA to find his rhythm or whatever) and bring Adam and I would say let them both get some PT…Rosales off the Bench at least provides power. So of course would Gomes…

I don’t know who’s making this call, but if Gonzo at this time is a guaranteed 3 outs per game.

Its probably going to happen - bend over

by Madville on Apr 20, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Three outs per game...

Sometimes more, because of the two GIDP.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Apr 20, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heer Heer

Its probably going to happen - bend over

by Madville on Apr 20, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez

Maybe sending Gonzalez and Encarnacion down, call up Rosales and Wilkin Castillo. Start Janish at short and Rosales at third. Castillo can back up in the infield and catcher. Sound good?

by ebpunkin on Apr 20, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure why you'd need to send EdE down

He’s not hitting, but he’s still got an OBP of .386. He’s walked 11 times, and is finding ways to help the team. He’s only made one error so far. He’s been pretty decent.

by Brendanukkah on Apr 20, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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