Astros get pwned by Owings, Reds win 4-2
by Slyde on Apr 19, 2009 5:34 PM EDT
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PrintThe Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Micah Owings. 1 for 1, double, 2 RBI.
Key Plays
- Willy Taveras and Michael Bourn traded awesome catches against each other early in the game. Taveras' catch - seen above - robbed Bourn of extra bases.
- Both teams got multiple runners on in the first inning, but neither team scored a run.
- The Astros scored the first run of the game in the third inning on a single from Bourn and a single from Tejada that scored Bourn from first. He's kind of fast.
- The Reds put up another threat in the 4th inning when Edwin Encarnacion walked and Laynce Nix singled him to third, but Ramon Hernandez grounded out to end the threat.
- Edinson Volquez walked the bases loaded in the 5th, but induced a double play out of Geoff Blum that involved a beneficial call from the umpire where he called Hunter Pence out despite the fact that he had not been tagged out on the play. The Astros failed to score in the inning.
- A Jerry Hairston Jr. walk, Ramon Hernandez single, and an errant throw on sacrifice bunt attempt by Alex Gonzalez put the first run on the board for the Reds in the 7th inning.
- Owings pinch hit for Volquez in the 7th, doubling deep to left-center and plating two runs to give the Reds a 3-1 lead.
- The first two runners got on base in the bottom of the 7th, but Arthur Rhodes convinced Lance Berkman to ground into a double play and struck out Carlos Lee swinging to get out of the jam.
- The first two runners got on base in the bottom of the
7th8th, butArthur RhodesDavid Weathers got out of the inning on a sacrifice bunt, line out, and a strike out without surrendering a run. - The Reds played add-on in the 9th after Darnell McDonald tripled and scored on a sacrifice fly by Willy Taveras.
- The first two runners got on base in the bottom of the
7th8th9th, butArthur RhodesDavid WeathersFrancisco Cordero managed to get out of the inning while surrendering a single run on a sacrifice fly by Carlos Lee.
Other Notes
- Edinson Volquez looked much better today than he has so far this season. He still walked too many hitters (5 on the day), but he was able to get the Astros to swing and miss considerably more than he has with any other team this season. The Astros aren't a strong offensive team, so I'll take this start with a grain of salt, but all in all it was good to see Volquez have some success on the day. Plus, he gets the win, which, as we know, is all that matters.
- I'm as big of a fan of Micah Owings' bat as anyone, but it really is an indictment on the bench of the Reds right now that he is the only reliable bat off of it, though I will credit Jerry Hairston Jr. for his stellar performance as a non-starter today.
- The defense was very up and down today. There were a couple of times where players fell asleep, specifically around first base. But, there were also 3 or 4 excellent plays including Taveras' catch, a nice play on a double play by Encarnacion on a ground ball from Berkman in the 7th, and a nice snag on a line drive by Votto. I suppose we're stuck taking the good with the bad at this point.
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The Reds pitching was pretty lucky today
today was not a recipe for long term success.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
fuck success
i am hungry for grease
tellin' tales of drunkenness and cruelty
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 19, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
okay colin
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Apr 19, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
holy cow
Great photo.
I think I’m in love.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
It's the socks that do it for you, isn't it?
by Brendanukkah on Apr 19, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
no
It’s the glove.
It’s C. Trent who has the sock fetish.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
ugh - if you had heard the Reds radio broadcast today
you’d know Marty doesn’t wear socks with his loafers in the summer and if Brantley did that, there’d “be a problem.”
those are the socks on my mind right now. and i wish they weren’t.
OMG LOL ROFL
I thought the Owings photo caption was funny, but then I saw 41 is hitting it harder caption and bust out laughing. Too bad ‘nukkah doesn’t write for SNL.
I know small sample size and all, but I’m starting to get the feeling that Owings is legit. And I have no problem having a glove guy like Janish on the team if there’s a bat like Owings on the bench. (Coincidentally, I just realized the cafe/bar I’m in is playing The Natural. Redford really does have a nice looking swing – wonder if he could have been a ballplayer.)
I know the Reds are “playing above their potential” (is that the right way to phrase it?), but look at it this way: in the past, they didn’t have this type of “luck.” They should not be 6-5, yet they are. (Ooh…Hobbs just got called up to bat for the first time…If someone really did hit the cover off the ball, what’s the rule? Like, do you use the ball of string, or do you have to collect both the cover and the string and put them back together again? Or is it a ground rule double?)
I think the baseball gods are smiling on the Reds right now. Sure, the hitting sux now, but Bruce, Phillips, and Edwin are in beginning of season slumps. They’ll come around (who knows – maybe a few days off for Bruce will help).
The Natural!
I’m watching it, too. I love how much of a dick Wilford Brimley is in the beginning. Vintage grumpy Brimley.
by Obi Juan Kenobez on Apr 19, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That was Wilford Brimley
pre-Quaker Oats
That stuff does mellow you out, ya know…
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 19, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i watched the natural for the first time last week
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Apr 20, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
An Owings fan, eh?
“Daedalus and obc, sittin’ in a tree……”
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
another big win
Reds only need 1 more win to get 5 on this 10 game road trip, and there’s 4 games left, exciting. Good to see Volquez finally get a quality start. The problem is tomorrow does not look so favorable. If the Reds got shutout against lefty Wandy, will they score negative runs against Hampton?
Then its the chubs, who are hitting pretty well so far. If the reds can get 2 more wins on this road trip, it would be a great sign for the season.
I agree with YO
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
i was not impressed with Volquez today.
9 base runners (5 walks) in 6 innings does not equal long term success.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Apr 20, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
the mlb.com wrap:
“Batting a Major League-low .210 as a team, Reds hitters aren’t having much fun these days.”
Where have you gone, Johnny Vander Meer?
I think the winning helps.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
by Gray on Apr 19, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sure, their Pythagorean W-L is only 4-7...
But they’re actually 6-5!
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
They are the 24th team in history to start 6-5 with a 4-7 Pythag
The previous 23 teams finished with an average winning percentage of .513 (83-79 in 162 games). Five teams won 90+ games, including the 1909 Pirates who won 110 games and the WS. Five teams also finished with under 70 wins. What’s my point? It’s early.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Apr 19, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
in depth analysis
you heard it here first….the Reds can STILL be a 70 or 90 win ballclub.
film at eleven.
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
of course it's early.
bruce and phillips and edwin could actually start hitting and make the wins “warranted.”
Playing above your Pyt....
… never a good thing….
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 19, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that's not completely true
an 11-game pythag is not necessarily indicative of a team’s true talent level. It can be argued that the Reds are a better team than how they have performed so far – the pitching has been somewhat less that we expected and just about everybody has hit worse than expected. So, given how bad they’ve played so far (4-7 pythag translates to 59-103 in 162 games), it actually is a positive that they’ve topped their pythag. If they truly are a 79 win team and play at that level for the remaining 151 games this season and match their pythag, then they have become an 81-win team now instead of a 79-win team.
So if you assume they aren’t really a 59-win team, it is actually a good thing that they are topping their pythag so far.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
While they won't lose 103...
IMO they certainly won’t win more than 75, and if they continue to out perform the pythag, this will certainly feel like 2006 all over again.
I agree that the Reds are better than their current pythag projection of 59-103, but eventually we’ll see their pythag record mirror their actual record.
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 19, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I made my point well enough
my point is that they are more likely to perform at their true talent level over the 151 games than they did for the first 11 games. Assuming they hold their pythag over those 151 games (more likely over a larger sample), then they’ve already got a 2-game head start. Sure, they could lose those 2 games back to their pythag over the rest of the season, but I would say at this point in the season it is a good thing they are outpeforming their pythag since they’ve played so poorly.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
In-Person Game Thoughts
Hey all… long-time peruser…. first-time poster…yada, yada, yada
I am in Houston for work and was able to go to the game today and it was a great day for a baseball game. The park looks crappy from the outside, but nice on the inside. It was not as hokey as I thought it would be after seeing it on TV for years.
Question I had for everyone was about the double-play in the 5th. The Astro fans present bitched and moaned about the call there and then also on the radio the whole show. I guess the call was that the baserunner ran off the baseline… I was just curious if that was accurate or we got a call our way?
The announcers acted like he hadn't been called out of the base line
and it didn’t look like he was out of the base line. I think the ump just got the call wrong.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I don't know
Since I followed the game on the Gameday.
But I have a question for you. Was there extra security because the Bushes were there?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Not that I saw.... but maybe that was the point
Regardless of your personal feelings for the family, it was awesome when they were on the Kiss Cam.
Just curious
I wondered if people had to go through metal detectors or something.
The Rangers put A-Rod on the kiss cam once…and he obliged by kissing teammate Andy Phillips.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
That dude only told A-Rod he was Andy Phillips
To trick him into making out with him.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 20, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That call was pretty terrible
Pence wasn’t out of the base line and Phillips missed him by about a foot and a half.
The Houston color guy basically blamed the loss on that play.
Will you stop it with the vegetables
by Man Mountain on Apr 19, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
houston guy had somewhat of a point
though asstros had PLENTY of chances before and after and failed to score. glad for once it went our way.
it was DEFINITELY not an out from replays
very clear that it wasn’t – BP’s tag wasn’t even close – missed him by almost a foot but the ump was in direct line of the “tag” and couldn’t see it. horrible call. but YAY!
The ump just fucked up
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
To elaborate
The ump’s view may have been obstructed, and BP sold it.
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
Yes lets enjoy the Red's good furtune
However when I look at
BP, Bruce, EdE, Gonzo, Hernia, , Cherry, Nix (although he done gooder today)
They are sucking wind http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2009.shtml
Howvever…
Darnell McDonald
Laynce Nix
Paul Janish
Ryan Hanigan
These guys (albeit a small sample are actually doing ok Along with Joey and Micah
I don’t expect much offense out of Jannish and Hernia, Nix is a PH. and McFlurry is a very very very long shot to even stick around.
So let us pray for the following:
More Good Fortune
A rejuvenated BP
A career year from Edwin
That Rosales gets a good look pretty soon
and Ryan HanninganMan gets in the line up a lot more
And please Cool God send us a hitting coach.
Its probably going to happen - bend over
i never read your posts from top to bottom
i always scroll to the end to see what the little picture is going to be first, then i try to guess how you got to that point. then i go back and read from the top to see if i guessed right. i never do.
My millions are unconventional!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 19, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Chuck
I do the same thing, almost. The first thing I do is check the time stamp, then I follow your bottom up technique.
I’m considering drinking absinthe for the first time and seeing if that helps…
"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21
McFlurry is cracking me up
But I don’t think it’s a bad thing that when our big guys are in a slump, we’re still winning. Cuz when they start hitting…
What if...
…our BIG guys are actually little Guys who look BIG because the rest of the team is teensy-tiny?
P.S. A week away from Red Reporter while on “vacation” with the better half and the beatiful by-product— don’t mean to get mushy, but: I love you guys!!!!
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Apr 20, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think McFlurry
Is seeing the same witch Bako saw early in the season last year.
And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...
by Paul Householder on Apr 20, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I realize
that our bench does not have the big names, but at this point I can’t agee that Micah is the only dependable bat off of it. Nix has done well and MacDonald had a big triple today. I would not be afraid to use CherryDick (whichever does not start). Shoot, the way Janish has hit in his limited role, I would not hesitate to use him so far. And, I would love to see Hannigan get more opportunities but your backup catcher does not usually PH.
Granted, there is not a lot of power here. But, coming through with any type of hit to me is successfull.
I'm really starting to come around on McDonald as a pinch hitter
But I also think Hanigan should be getting at least 40% of the starts. He probably deserves more, but I’m trying to factor in Dusty’s deference to Hernandez’s veteranness (contract?) and what’s actually best for the team.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 20, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Just be glad...
That there are not three catchers on the roster. It would be even worse.
And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...
by Paul Householder on Apr 20, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Have those players had some success in the first couple of weeks?
Yes.
Does that make me confident that they will continue to do so in the future?
No.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Thanks, Debbie Downer
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
well, if it makes you feel any better
I don’t believe the lineup is anywhere near as bad as it has been the first two weeks of the season. The only player that I’m concerned about is Gonzalez because of all of the time off. I’d like to see Hanigan in the lineup more often too, but otherwise, I think the rest of the group will come around eventually.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I'm just giving you shit
I see it as a miracle that this team is 6-5 after seeing them several times. Gomes should be here instead of McDonald, Hanigan should play more, and Gonzalez…..well, it might be time for the glue factory.
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
According to this acient text, the true miracle on this team is that Arthur Rhodes is really 63 years old
Its probably going to happen - bend over
It's raining here in Washington, so I guess this is appropriate
After eleven games last year, we were also 6-5. Then the team lost the next four games and was never over .500 again for the rest of the season.
I don’t say this to be a downer, because I’m as excited about the record as anybody, but let’s just have a little bit of perspective.
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