Making contact with the 2009 Reds is not so easy
by Slyde on Apr 13, 2009 4:43 PM EDT
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PrintI know the season is early and all that, but let me ask you a couple of questions:
- Which team leads the NL in walks per plate appearance?
- Which team leads the NL in pitches per plate appearance?
Would you believe that your Cincinnati Reds are the correct answer to both of those questions? I didn't believe it until I saw it.
Then again, there's always a reason for these types of things.
Reason number one is that the pitchers that the Reds have faced so far have had a hard time hitting the strike zone. The Reds have seen the 2nd fewest number of strikes per pitch in the NL, ahead of only Philadelphia.
The second reason that their pitches per PA rate is so high is that they've also had the highest rate of swings-and-misses in the NL, tied with Milwaukee at 21%. Their overall contact rate is just 73%, which is why they are 3rd from the bottom at putting the ball in play - 4% below the league average. This also explains how they can be second in the league, while swinging at the first pitch 33% of the time and still go deep into at bats. They just can't make enough contact to end the at bat quickly.
As you would guess from all of this information, they have the fourth highest strikeout rate in the NL.
So, this team may not be hitting the cover off of the ball, but at least they are making pitchers work to get through the innings. Heck, that's a lot more than I would have expected from the offense.
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That's also not what we were told to expect from this team
With the jettisoning of Duffey, Jr, this team was going to put the ball in play, be smart on the base paths, and not strike out as much.
It will be interesting to see if the Reds continue to be patient at the plate.
Will you stop it with the vegetables
and play good defense
That’s why they play the game on the field.
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
by JJ on Apr 13, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
God, I hope so
If they start to lose their selectivity, my affection for this team is going South in a hurry.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice.
rec’d
"I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Yo, Slyde..
How can I see who the worst BA and OPS players are so far this season (say.. minimum 15 PAs)?
"What wrath, Daddy?"
does someone need to start "let me BBref that for you"?
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2009-standard-batting.shtml
all of the tables on BBRef are sortable now. Just click the column header.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Well, I can't get it to do exactly what I want it to do..
but I think I’m seeing that of NL players with at least 10 PAs the Reds have three of the worst four.
Name ’em.
"What wrath, Daddy?"
hernandez, gonzalez, mcdonald
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hernandez, AGon, McDonald
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
McDonald's triple helps him away from the bottom of the OPS standings.
It’s Hernandez, Gonzalez and Hairston.
Still checking but I think they are three of the NL’s worst six or seven.
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 13, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The 2009 NL OPS Basement
(minimum 10 PAs)
394. Ramon Hernandez .067 / .125 / .067
395. Cody Ross .091 / .091 / .091
tie Jerry Hairston .091 / .091 / .091
397. Alex Gonazalez .000 / .143 / .000
398. Jason Kendall .000 / .111 / .000
399. Justin Upton .000 / .100 / .000
400. Andy Laroche .000 / .067 / .000
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
And they're dead last in TB by a fucking TON.
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
fewest extra base hits in the Majors
Here’s a question for you: two players are tied for the second most extra base hits on the Reds behind Joey Votto. Who are they?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
BP and Taveras with one each!
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
with 2 each, i believe
bp has a 2b and an hr and t virus has a 2b and 3b
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
two each
Willy Taveras has more XBH than Bruce, EdE, Dickerson, Hairston, Hernandez, and Gonzalez combined.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Actually
on Votto, BP, Taveras, Bruce, and Owings have extra base hits on this team
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
here's to a couple more guys poppin that xbh cherry tonight!
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
CDick start in left field
Cherry Hudson will have to do it with a pinch hit bat.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
you got the lineups, slyde?
or you just platoon speculating?
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Fay Tweet
Lineup: Taveras 8, Dickerson 7, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Encarnacion 5, Hernandez 2, Gonzalez 6, Volquez 1.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Prolly.
Or McDonald went first to third when he shouldn’t have.
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 13, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Willy Taveras and Darnell McDonald
(actually a serious guess)
by Brendanukkah on Apr 13, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
BP homered yesterday, Taveras hit a 3B
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
McDonald has no XBH
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I thought he hit a triple.
I
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 13, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You must be thinking of Willy T
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
matt belisle is on WGN now pitching for the Rocks
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
Wow. I forgot about him.
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 13, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry to remind you
you’ll prolly have to go back in therapy now.
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know where else to put this
Fangraphs has the Reds top 10 prospects here.
For those lazy people out there, it looks like this:
1. Yonder
2. Daryl Thompson
3. Frazier
4. Stubbs
5. Yorman
6. Soto
7. Juan Carlos
8. Valaika
9. Lotzkar
10. Juan Francisco
Daryl Thompson?
really?
He’s nice and all, but he’s never been healthy enough to be considered a #2 prospect in the system.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Yeah, it's quite different from other lists I've seen
For example, Goldstein at BP had:
1. Yonder
2. Frazier
3. Stubbs
4. Valaika
5. Soto
and Thompson wasn’t listed until #10.
Does this thread mean there is no reds game tonight?
Made from 100% recycled awesome,
by chandrathan on Apr 13, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
It's in a dome, in the Central Timezone
Think of it as a one hour rain delay.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 13, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I didn't realize Milwaukee had a dome.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
retractable roof
Made from 100% recycled awesome,
by chandrathan on Apr 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
We play the Brewers at 8!
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by chandrathan on Apr 13, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
More death
Mark Fidrych is dead at the age of 54.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Seems like everybody is dying these days.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
Getting crushed by a vehicle you're working on has gotta be a really bad way to go
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
I'm sure a SFU episode started like that.
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
Sounds like something from "Always Sunny."
"What wrath, Daddy?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Apr 13, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn, Ted Lilly just lost a no-no in the 7th
I had no idea he had it, the Cubbies announcers must be super superstitious.
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
Since trivia questions about this young season seem to be in vogue
The player who has seen the 3rd most pitches per plate appearance so far is our dear departed Adam Dunn. What Red is right behind him on that list?
we're both wrong
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I'm kind of surprised at who it is
since he only has one walk this season
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
is it aGon?
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I should have specified
These are players with more than 3.1 PA’s per game, eliminating C-Dick and Sea Bass
found a list
with a Red pretty high on it (w/ 1 walk) but Dunn isn’t in the top 40, so….I don’t know if I’m looking in the right place
Austin Kearns is a National!
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
just. no.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Apr 13, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm...i dismissed that possibility
as preposterous
"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast
by Colin Auscapee on Apr 13, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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