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Spring Game 30 Thread: Reds at Pirates

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Johnny Cueto vs. Ross Ohlendorf.  That's all the analysis you get.  Isn't it about time for these Spring Training games to be over?

No EdE in the lineup again.  Might as well put him on the DL now so that he can start getting work in the minor league camp when he's healthy enough to play.  That way his DL stint can be retroactive to last Saturday instead of whenever he gets put into a game to play DH again.

See the lineups after the jump.

Star-divide

Lineup

Cincinnati Reds @ Pittsburgh Pirates

03/30/09 1:05 PM EDT

Cincinnati Reds
Pittsburgh Pirates
Willy Taveras CF
Nate McLouth CF
Chris Dickerson LF
Freddy Sanchez 2B
Joey Votto 1B
Ryan Doumit C
Brandon Phillips 2B
Eric Hinske RF
Jay Bruce RF
Adam LaRoche 1B
Jeff Keppinger 3B
Craig Monroe LF
Paul Janish SS
Ramon Vazquez 3B
Ryan Hanigan C
Jack Wilson SS
Johnny Cueto P
Ross Ohlendorf P

Game time is 1:05pm.  The Reds are on the radio today, or you can check them out on Gameday.

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Voto early. Voto often.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 30, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, dick

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know

instead of complaining about it, you can fix it.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 30, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, kiss ass

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

no problem

dumb ass

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 30, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

how bad EdE is hurting. He is DHing in a minor game. Hopefully he is almost ready. If not,it probably is a good idea to hold him out of the big legue games to shorten his time on the DL.

by fourrunhomer on Mar 30, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm actually going to listen to this game today

just because I want to hear how much better Mercker will be than Brantley

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

he's not working until Wednesday

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I saw that on the press release

but Fay’s blog says he’s working today. I d’not know who to belive.

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's on.

With tHommy

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid press release

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a fun half inning listerning to Mercker

good radio voice, relevant insights, nice debut.

When not lurking here, the sportsfrog is where I am.

by membengal on Mar 30, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

tradeumors says

the Cubs have release Bako and Stanton. and a few more former-Reds are out on the street tonight.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 30, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

geez

Bako hit .364/.400/.515 and still got the boot.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bako looks like he actually had a good spring.

Someone should pick him up. Just so it’s not the Reds.

by fourrunhomer on Mar 30, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Yankees

Hey, they took Chad Moeller last year.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Mercker mentions that you can’t tell what pitch is being thrown from the press box. I’m gonna love calling bullshit on Brantley about a billion times this season.

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

could brantley be watching the video feed though?

(side note: check your email)

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that is a dirty announcer secret.

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

'sup folks.

Slow work day today so I get to listen..

Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.

by snohio on Mar 30, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Stupid Affilliates

Think regular programming is better than Reds spring training games. Sometimes even more important than regular season Reds games.

by fourrunhomer on Mar 30, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Not really

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Janish had a single, and was thrown out HAVOCing

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is the record for a team...

For times getting picked off, thrown out stealing, stretching base hits or taking the extra base in a spring training? The Reds must be nearing that by now.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 30, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thom mentioned that Janish had been working out in the weight room

to try to get stronger to hit better, also hinting that he could be on his way north. If he can start hitting, he’s the best choice at SS.

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I think all the weight work slowed him down a tad...

Causing HAVOC!

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 30, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will take that glove

for me he doesnt even have to hit all that much as long as the rest of the team is producing

by saboscork on Mar 30, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd agree with you

but he can’t be hitting under .200 like he was last year. If Dusty wants to bat him 8th and he can hit .250 or .260, I’d take it over Keppinger.

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds awesome to me

i think if he ever sticks in the bigs it will be as and adam everett type player

by saboscork on Mar 30, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see Janish get a shot

I kinda think he’ll probably end up in Louisville, though.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

We certainly need a body in that position

JHJ or Kepp ain’t getting it done.

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've had a really long night

and I hate the fucking Eagles

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

AZ reference - DRINK..

This game never gets old..

Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.

by snohio on Mar 30, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the second one

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

turned on the game online

and had to suffer four seconds of that blowhard $#@! on AM radio that is the leader of a certain segment of american society. ugh. guess the game’s blacked out. now i’m listening to a static filled broadcast from a walkman radio – the static is caused by the wifi. glad to hear mercker, though. would be great if he’d replace brantley.

by Daedalus on Mar 30, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if Andyfan will get into this game

He played a couple of innings for the first time in three weeks yesterday.

Poor guy has the worst luck. He was considered a lock to make the roster before back problems sidelined him. Now he’s likely to start the season in Indianapolis.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Cueto gives up a hit to the pitcher, drills McLouth

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Liner to Kepp at 3B, the throw back to 1st pulls Voto off the bag to prevent the DP

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doumit Ks swinging to end the inning

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

EdE would've made that play, too..

No throw required.

Good composure by Cueto after the HBP and the dumb-luck single. 3 pitch K after Kepp’s snare down the line.

Only good thing about S.T. radio: you can hear the mitt pop.

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 30, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

31 and 14

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just choked back some vomit

i have never even heard of such a terrible ratio.

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ST 2009

Mariners 19 SB 14 CS
Yankees 28 SB 13 CS
Rockies 37 SB 18 CS
White Sox 23 SB 12 CS
Dodgers 34 SB 19 CS

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Mar 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

31 CS to 14 SB?

Jesus Christ. Even Dusty has to know that’s bad.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's the other way around

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

I rushed those numbers up there. They are backward. 31 SB and 14 CS.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

dick

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is 10 1/3 innings worth of outs

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's really ridiculous

No wonder they haven’t scored any runs this spring.

by nycredsfan on Mar 30, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross Ohlendorf

was one of the guys the Yankees got for Randy Johnson. They wanted Micah Owings, but the D-backs wouldn’t part with him. They got Ohlendorf instead.

Ohlendorf was told Saturday that’s he’s won a spot in the rotation. Former Yankee Jeff Karstens may win the fifth spot.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh, boy

What happened? How did Ohlendorf get on?

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

He got out of it

That could’ve been ugly.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Single up the middle

i think

HAVOC...your everyday solution to clogged bases

by Teewrecks44 on Mar 30, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

RBI Single by Craig Monroe

Eat shit Pitt! Pirates up 1-0

HAVOC...your everyday solution to clogged bases

by Teewrecks44 on Mar 30, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

um, no

it was double followed by to fly outs that scored the run.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

two flyouts, not "to flyouts"

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that in an Imax theater when I was like 8

It sucked ass back then, probably still does

HAVOC...your everyday solution to clogged bases

by Teewrecks44 on Mar 30, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bad

it was a sac fly

HAVOC...your everyday solution to clogged bases

by Teewrecks44 on Mar 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Los Piratos

This is it for the endless Reds/Pirates spring training games as the Reds head for the desert.

by Redsfanx on Mar 30, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Neftali Soto gets an AB

pops out to RF. Still, nice to see him getting some playing time.

Tie game on RBI double from Rosales. 1-1.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

is that slang for something?

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Janish has a better glove

And has out-hit Rosales in spring training.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't another former Red go there?

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He made

Jay Bruce’s WBC Team Texas!

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

so did a Canadian and a North Carolinian

Poor Jay really didn’t come out well on that question

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Mar 30, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he left out Bubba Crosby

Even though he needed a center fielder.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable

that’s a dumb mistake only Jay and thirty other GMs would make.

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Mar 30, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not so much that I'd ignore Rosales clearly better hitting stats from the minors

I see Rosales as more defensively versatile and a much better hitter. Either player is going to be a bench guy, no more, so it probably doesn’t matter, but I hope the Reds don’t make the decision based solely on 50 spring PAs.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see

a really solid defensive guy at SS, at least off the bench. Cherry and Kepp don’t cut it.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

kepp will be gone soon

we need to make room on the 40 man for gomes, so we’re gonna trade kepp for some Bread $ox minor leaguers.

by Daedalus on Mar 30, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

your team names are getting to complicated

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you forgot the "be" in between "to" and "complicated"

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

or I used "to" instead of "too"

dick

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am filling in for 'than

he’s been MIA

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

bread is another name for money, you know

it only makes sense! and i can’t call them the Dead $ox since they are everywhere, very much alive.

by Daedalus on Mar 30, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

But isn't the $ in Sox then redundant?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 30, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what if it is

and maybe not. i don’t think one dollar sign accurately reflects the amount they spend on their roster.

by Daedalus on Mar 30, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey Slyde

we still working on that ‘groan’ function?

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 30, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but I doubt they'll keep a 4th shortstop

I realize that Janish should be the defensive replacement, but if Gonzalez is starting, then I doubt Janish replaces him and I doubt the Reds keep a defensive replacement around just for days when Gonzalez needs a day off. Now, if Gonzalez starts the year on the DL (hasn’t played since last Monday), I’d definitely take Janish. But if Gonzalez is healthy, I think the bench is better with Rosales on it.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rosales with another RBI

tHom is finding himself to be all tingly.

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It's Andyfan

At 2B. That was something the Bucs wanted to see – if he could play 2B or 3B as well as 1B.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope this offensive malaise is about...

the endless tedium of a longer than usual spring training, and not about real offensive ineptitude. And I know it’s ST, but:

Reds 30th of 30 in average (.239 v. median .284)
29th of 30 in OBP (.298 v. .348 median)
28th of 30 in SLG (.388 v. .444 median)

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 30, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

I guess that settles the Owings or Bailey question.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing we have a pitcher surplus!

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 30, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope he has a girlfriend to pick up the slack

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 30, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

"the stranger" could always be ressed into action

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

my next post after making fun of a spelling error contains one

there’s an overused German word for that

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Backpfeifengesicht

Will you stop it with the vegetables

by Man Mountain on Mar 30, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's got a houseboat full of girlfriends

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear there's a music video about living on a boat.

Are you familiar with it?

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Mar 30, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

in all seriousness, though

I don’t think he will be DL’ed. It sounds from his comments as if this is the sort of things he pitches through.

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has one more ST start

if it turns out like yesterday, i hope they put him on the DL

by Daedalus on Mar 30, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur

but Dusty the Decider calls it.

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 30, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think?

Do they let him make the roster decisions?

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fay saying that Nix is pretty much guaranteed a spot

given that he’s the only left handed hitter on the bench.

Hooray?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

if edwin gets healthy

i’m still in the running for them scout seats

"I usually shoot it pretty straight."- a boating enthusiast

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 30, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nix was beyond overmatched in the 3 games I saw him in last week

Granted on of them was against CC…but man his bat is slow.

Why is obc so mean to me when I offer an introduction to a beautiful 25 year old Red's Cheerleader.

by Madville on Mar 30, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roenicke gets beat around, the Pirates tie the game

D-Ray coming in to stop the bleeding

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

or not

Reds lose 3-2

"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty

by Slyde on Mar 30, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

This one belongs to the stupid buccos

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 30, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that sucked..

Owell, guess I can go home now..

Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.

by snohio on Mar 30, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

That game sure went down the toilet suddenly.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 30, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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