World Ph'n Champions: A 2008 Philadelphia Phillies Preview
2008
Record: 92-70, first place, won NLDS 3-1, won NLCS 4-1, won World Series 4-1
RS: 799, RA: 680, Pythag record: 93-69
Opening Day payroll: $98.2m
Destroyed cars: unknown
World Phuckin’ Champions. The losingest franchise in sports history won its second World Series in 125 years, to much rejoicing. The Phillies rode a second consecutive late season hot streak to the division title (helped once again by a Flushing choke job) and kept it going throughout the playoffs, going 11-3 in their run to glory. It was a deserved title—nothing like the fraudulent 2006 Cards—but it merits a closer look nonetheless.
The 2008 Phillies were solid across the board, and especially excelled at stealing bases and closing out games with their bullpen. 3 hitters had above-average OBP (Utley, Burrell, Werth), 3 had above-average SLG (Utley, Howard, Burrell), and there were only 2 real offensive holes in the starting 8 (Pete Happy and Carlos Dribblin’ Ruiz). They also had 3 excellent defenders (Rollins, Utley, Werth), and only 1 real clunker (Burrell). They had 1 excellent starter (Hamels) and 3 average innings munchers (Moyer, Myers, Blanton). Brad Lidge was the best reliever in baseball last year, confirmed by his league-leading WXRL, but everyone knew that anyway because of the whole not blowing a single save thing. Ryan Madson turned into a reliable setup man after years of posting solid peripherals, and JC Romero continued his renaissance from 2007. And yes, to give HAVOC-lovers a shout-out, the Phillies were one of the most successful base-stealing teams ever, along with our Big Red Machine teams from the 1970s.
What’s the point of all this? To show that one need not build a "perfect" ballclub to win a title. The 2008 Phillies were a team with 1 perfect ballplayer, 2 dominant pitching stars, and a supporting cast that was utterly complementary. Ryan Howard can’t field and can’t hit lefties to save his life, but Jayson Werth and Pat Burrell crush lefties and the rest of the Phillies infield was one of the best in baseball. Pat Burrell can’t field and struggles against righties, but Ryan Howard crushes righties and Victorino and Werth are way above average gloves in the outfield. Feliz has no redeeming offensive qualities, but at least he can field, right? And if you have a rotation with only one true ace, it certainly helps to have a lights-out bullpen.
In retrospect, the 2008 Phillies were a deftly constructed team, and much of the credit needs to go to Pat Gillick. Yes, the core of Utley/Rollins/Howard/Burrell/Hamels was there prior to his taking the job, but the pieces he added—Lidge, Werth, Victorino (Ed Wade got Victorino through the Rule 5 draft, but he didn’t get playing time until Gillick came along), Blanton, Romero—elegantly complemented that core’s weaknesses. This team should serve as a good lesson that it is very possible to build a championship-caliber club out of flawed ballplayers without spending like the Yankees. Here’s hoping Jocketty was taking notes.
2009
Approximate opening day payroll: $115m ($124 if you factor in Adam Eaton…what an astoundingly bad contract)
Unfortunately for Phillies fans, new GM Ruben Amaro didn’t seem to be taking notes. The Phillies’ only significant offseason move was to let Pat the Bat walk and replace him with Raul "Career DH" Ibanez. When you look at it, it really is an astonishingly bad move, as Ibanez is a little bit worse than Burrell in every aspect of his game, and to top it all off, is 5 years older and signed for twice the money. Aye carumba. I’ll now bow to what seems to be the popular format this year and take a whirl through the lineup and rotation. Fielding runs taken from Fan Graphs, projections are CHONE.
Lineup
1. SS Jimmy Rollins
2008: .277/.349/.437; .357 wOBA; +13.5 fielding runs; 44 net steals
2009: .281/.342/.452; .356 wOBA
Contract: 3 years, $23.5m left ($2m buyout)
Rollins was hampered by injuries last year, and did not come close to replicating his 2007 MVP season. However, almost every team would kill to have that line at SS; combine that with his above-average glove and excellent baserunning, and you’re still left with a top-5 shortstop in his late prime. Also note that PECOTA’s projection is much more optimistic.
2. CF Shane Victorino
2008: .293/.352/.447; .355 wOBA; +8.7 fielding runs; 25 net steals
2009: .288/.350/.444; .353 wOBA
Contract: 1 year, $3.125m (avoided arbitration)
The Flyin’ Hawaiian swung himself into Philly lore last postseason with a stomach-punching grand slam off of the Brewers’ CC Sabathia in the divisional series, but Victorino had been a valuable contributor all season long. Again, most teams would love to have his on-base skills, good glove, and good baserunning in center field. Rollins and Victorino perfectly illustrate just how valuable league-average bats are at premium defensive positions. Victorino is in his prime, so most projections see him retaining his value.
3. 2B Chase Utley
2008: .292/.380/.535; .391 wOBA; +19.5 fielding runs; 12 net steals
2009: .299/.381/.513; .391 wOBA
Contract: 5 years, $73m left
Utley really is close to being a perfect ballplayer. He mashes, can get on base, can put balls in play, is a gold-glove caliber fielder at a premium position, and is a smart baserunner. He is a true franchise player, and I admit to having leaped out of my seat when he made the famous pump fake throw home during the World Series’ deciding Game 5. Sadly, throw a large grain of salt onto that projection, because Utley is sidelined until May while recovering from hip surgery. That, combined with his being on the wrong side of 30, is a cause for concern. If he isn’t up to his normal caliber, the Phillies don’t have a chance of repeating.
4. 1B Ryan Howard
2008: .251/.339/.543; .366 wOBA; +3.0 fielding runs; 0 net steals
2009: .271/.379/.576; .409 wOBA
Contract: 3 years, $54m left
Howard’s prodigious numbers from 2006 and 2007 took a dip last year, but CHONE and other projections show him rebounding in a big way this season, which one might consider the last in his true peak years. He still can’t hit lefties and he still can’t field well. If this were a game of Strat-O-Matic I’d platoon the guy, but in the real world you just can’t platoon former MVPs. Therefore, Phillies fans will have to live with his warts and be happy that he’ll hit close to 50 homers without even trying.
5. LF Raul Ibanez
2008: .293/.358/.479; .356 wOBA; -11.9 fielding runs; -2 net steals
2009: .287/.359/.488; .368 wOBA
Contract: 3 years, $31.5m left
It’s not like Ibanez is a bad hitter, but his horrible defense and glacial baserunning render him far closer to an average player than his contract would have you believe. I don’t think anyone would rather have an age-37 Ibanez over an age-32 Burrell, and that’s not even accounting for the fact that the Phillies’ lineup will now tilt dangerously to the left. I perhaps shouldn’t rant so much about this deal, because the collapsing market certainly made it look worse than it would’ve been under normal circumstances. Amaro made a rookie mistake with this one.
6. Jayson Werth
2008: .273/.363/.498; .382 wOBA; +20.6 fielding runs; 19 net steals
2009: .264/.365/.445; .363 wOBA
Contract: 2 years, $10m left
Werth was one of the best bargains in baseball last year, providing above average offense, defense, and wheels in a very cheap package. He’s struggled with injuries his whole career, and the pessimistic projection is a reflection of this. Expect Werth to beat the projection if he stays as healthy as he did last season. Even if he doesn’t, he still provides great value with the glove.
7. Pedro Feliz
2008: .249/.302/.402; .306 wOBA; +7.8 fielding runs; 0 net steals
2009: .257/.303/.441; .323 wOBA
Contract: 2 years, $10m left ($500K buyout)
I guess it couldn’t get much worse for Feliz, but that’s still no reason for the Phillies to continue playing him. Greg Dobbs provides much better offense off the bench, and Feliz could still be used as a defensive replacement. It’s all about recognizing sunk costs, and Feliz is sunk like the Edmund Fitzgerald.
8. Carlos Ruiz
2008: .219/.320/.300; .279 wOBA; +1 net steals
2009: .256/.338/.396; .328 wOBA
Contract: last year before arb. eligible
Ouch, that is a painful line. This is another position where the Phillies would do better to favor bat over glove, but Uncle Charlie thinks otherwise. Phillies fans should hope that prospect Lou Marson proves himself major-league ready this year, because he should bring on base skills that Ruiz sorely lacks.
Rotation and Bullpen
1. LHP Cole Hamels
2008: 227.3 IP, 3.09 ERA, 3.72 FIP
2009: 187 IP, 3.42 ERA, 3.68 FIP
Contract: 3 Years, $20.5m left
Hamels is a true ace, and certainly pitched that way in the postseason. The Phillies rewarded him by buying out his arbitration years, and it certainly looks like they got a bargain. CHONE’s projection has him losing about 6 starts worth of innings, which looks prescient given his elbow problems this spring. Hamels is not quite all the way through the injury nexus yet, so Philly should handle him with care.
2. RHP Brett Myers
2008: 190 IP, 4.55 ERA, 4.52 FIP
2009: 153 IP, 4.06 ERA, 4.19 FIP
Contract: 1 year, $12m left
Myers was famously demoted all the way down to A ball last season after racking up a 5.84 ERA through the end of June. The move worked, as Myers reverted to form during the second half—solid, but not spectacular, and able to miss bats when he needs to. CHONE and other projections agree that his 2nd half is more representative of his true talent.
3. LHP Jamie Moyer
2008: 196.3 IP, 3.71 ERA, 4.32 FIP
2009: 138 IP, 4.89 ERA, 4.85 FIP
Contract: 2 years, $13m left
The craftiest lefty of them all. I’d bet the over on IP and the under on ERA in that CHONE projection. Moyer’s so old and throws so slowly, it’s hard to see how to see another year will make that much of a difference. Moyer is one of the most unique players of our time, and it was nice to see him get some recognition in the postseason.
4. RHP Joe Blanton
2008: 197.6 IP, 4.69 ERA, 4.52 FIP
2009: 196 IP, 3.95 ERA, 4.00 FIP
Contract: 1 year, $5.475m (avoided arbitration)
Blanton is a back-end innings muncher straight out of central casting, but CHONE and almost all other projections see him improving his performance this year. At the very least, he is a reliable source of 200 IP, which automatically makes him a bargain.
5. RHP Chan Ho Park
2008: 95.3 IP, 3.40 ERA, 4.37 FIP
2009: 56 IP, 4.18 ERA, 4.02 FIP
Contract: 1 year, $2.5m
Um, okay. Park’s main benefit is that he is not Adam Eaton, whom they are paying $8.5m to leave. Park somehow cobbled together a decent season as a long reliever in LA last year, but I’m not as optimistic as most of the projections are. There’s a reason this guy became a punchline, and switching from Chavez Ravine to Citizen’s Bank will not help his cause. Expect youngster Carlos Carrasco to take his spot at some point during the season.
Closer: RHP Brad Lidge
2008: 1.95 ERA, 2.41 FIP, 11.9 K/9
2009: 3.22 ERA, 3.25 FIP, 10.8 K/9
Contract: 3 years, $37.5m left, plus $12.5m club option ($1.5m buyout)
Lidge had arguably the best season a closer has ever had last season, going 41/41 in save opportunities during the regular season and, more famously, 7 for 7 in the playoffs. To do it a bandbox park with Philly fans is even more impressive. There’s nowhere to go but down, but Lidge will still be an elite closer and should provide decent value for the contract.
Setup: RHP Ryan Madson
2008: 3.05 ERA, 3.33 FIP, 7.3 K/9
2009: 3.77 ERA, 3.56 FIP, 7.5 K/9
Contract: 3 years, $12m left
Madson blossomed in the setup role last year, but I don’t think he strikes out enough guys to be considered in the same breath as Broxton, Putz, and Marmol. Those three guys have "closer" stuff, which Madson will never have. Still, he was reliable, and $4m per isn’t that bad considering what we’re paying Mike Lincoln.
The Rest
The Phillies have a flexible bench in terms of positioning, and Greg Dobbs and Matt Stairs provide pop from both sides of the plate (although Dobbs would help the team more if he started at 3rd). The rest of the bullpen is well balanced, but most projections expect some regression.
Manager: Charlie Manuel, 574-484, .543, 1 WS Title
Uncle Charlie has some maddening tics, like refusing play better hitters at 3B and C, but you can't argue with his results. He handled the bullpen with aplomb last year, and his easygoing style seems to work well in a crazed town like Philly. Since the roster is pretty much the same as last year, don't expect too much to change, although I'd like to see him split up Utley and Howard with Werth.
Prediction
The team is largely unchanged from last season, but swapping Burrell for Ibanez will cost them some runs, and the pitching staff will probably give up a few more runs as well. Therefore, I expect them to be a bit below last year’s Pythag record, peg them for 91 wins. The Braves and the Mets should be better this season, which should make for a compelling race for both the Eastern division title and the wild card. Note that if Utley ends up missing significantly more time than projected, knock this prediction down to 85 wins and struggling to stay in contention.
Future
The future is now, as the World Series core remains in its prime. Nearly every key player is between 27-31 years old, which means the Phillies can contend with this core for another year or two. RHP Carlos Carrasco is a blue chipper who is probably major league ready now, but will bide his time in AAA until Chan Ho Park explodes. C Lou Marson is a decent catching prospect who could help the team this year with his offensive skills. The Phils also have 3 younger, high-upside prospects in RHP Kyle Drabek, OF Michael Taylor, and C Travis D’Arnaud. These 3 are still a few years away, but all project to be big league regulars, with Taylor possessing some real power potential.
Reds Connections
The Phillies apparently signed Jason Ellison to a minor league deal. That’s about it. That their roster is so devoid of former Reds may provide a clue about their recent success.
Bill Hall All-Star
Pedro Feliz absolutely kills the Reds, hitting .302/.362/.540 in 152 PA against his career line of .252/.290/.429. Yes, he pretty much turns into Mike Schmidt against us.
Tomo Okha All-Star
Cole Hamels is too good to be considered a true Tomo Okha All-Star, but it’s worth noting that in 30 career innings against the Reds, he’s given up 2 earned runs and 14 hits. Mama.
2009 Matchups
May 19-21 in Cincinnati
July 6-9 in Philadelphia
History
The first real notable interaction between the two franchises came in the star-crossed year of 1964, when the Phillies blew a 6.5 game league with 12 games to play by losing 10 games in a row and allowing the damn Cardinals to win the pennant. What many people forget is that our Reds, led by Frank Robinson, Vada Pinson, Jim Maloney and the ailing Fred Hutchinson, were right in the thick of it; they were tied for the lead with 4 games to play and looked like they were going to win the pennant for Hutch. Sadly, the Reds lost 3 of their last 4 and finished tied for 2nd with the Phillies.
The 1976 Big Red Machine easily swept aside Mike Schmidt’s Phillies in the NLCS, which apparently made such an impression on Philly’s GM that he went out and signed half of the Big Red Machine. Pete Rose won a ring in 1980 with the Phillies, and Tony Perez and Joe Morgan joined him in 1983 to lead the Phillies to the NL pennant. It was the last bit of glory for Perez and Morgan. Here’s hoping we pull off something similar and sign Utley, Howard, and Rollins in 2015, just so they know how weird it is to see your team’s legends celebrating in another uniform.
Sources: FanGraphs, Baseball Reference, Baseball Prospectus, Cot's Baseball Contracts
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teb7, I have to change the title if I'm going to bump it to the front page
Got any other suggestions than the lame ass attempt I made?
"How big IS your magic wand?"
great work teb
i remember last season when someone (i think it was Hal) suggested that the Reds could be just like the Phillies, because Dunn = Burrell, BP = Utley, Volquez = Hamels, and so on. amazing.
My millions are unconventional!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 20, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions
Excellent work, teb
As a local to the world champs, I’m impressed with a lot of the small stuff that most people don’t see from afar that you made note of: Madson as a key bullpen component, Uncle Charlie being challenged with in-game decisions but keeping the clubhouse loose amid the Negadelphia pressure, and Eaton being MIA. You even pointed out that Ed Wade is due some credit for last year’s championship, which no one here has recognized— or maybe they’re just unwilling to admit it. Ed Wade was and is spectacularly unpopular.
A couple add-ons, if I may:
Another Reds parallel? While he’s no Josh Hamilton, Pat Gillick made the decision to let the talented and popular Aaron Rowand (his face-first into the wall broken nose catch is as legendary here as any of Farney’s death-defying plays) depart to the Giants, counting on Victorino to fill the void and a Jenkins-Werth combination (Godicker-esque?) to pick up the slack.
I’d give the nod to Ibanez over Burrell in baserunning and overall defense. Burrell has a tremendous arm, but he has less range than Dunn on defense and was famous for turning doubles into singles with his footspeed. That said, you’re dead-on about the lineup’s vulnerability against lefties without Burrell. Amaro really misjudged the market on that deal.
Utley is making serious noise about being ready for Opening Day, so I’m not expecting as long an absence as it first appeared. Of course, it’s early and he’s notoriously aggressive, so a setback that delays his return is not hard to envision.
Phinally, a question: is Utley a statistically-validated above average defender? When he arrived here, defense was the knock against him. I know that he’s improved significantly, but I wonder if his popularity is gaining him more credit than he deserves defensively. I’ve lost all faith in the Gold Glove measurement since Bobby Abreu got one.
Again— great work.
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
Utley's glove
Most of the defensive stats I’ve looked at peg Utley as either #1 or #2 in the National League, with our very own Brandon Phillips being the other contender. Those same stats also rate Ibanez as only marginally better than Burrell in the field. Ibanez may be able to hold it together this year, but when he’s 39 he’s going to be the worst-fielding outfielder in the league. He should be fine this year; it’s the last year of the contract that I would be worried about.
Granted, this doesn’t matter as much in a small ballpark like Philly, but given Burrell’s popularity, production, and relative youth, it’s hard to see how Ibanez was the better choice. Out of Burrell, Bradley, Dunn, Abreu, and Ibanez, I’d argue that Ibanez is the least valuable player, and Amaro signed him for the most money! Like I said above, rookie mistake.
And full disclosure, my mom is from Drexel Hill and his a die-hard Phils fan, so I adopted them as my team to root for during the playoffs. That may explain some of my familiarity.
Ibanez
If you haven’t seen it yet, go to Lookout Landing and browse through their sidebar (lower left) titled “Raul Ibanez Takes Pride in His Defense”
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Thanks for the Utley follow-up
You, too, Slyde.
I’m definitely not advocating Ibanez as a fantastic move, just sayin’ that I’d take him over Burrell in those two areas. As a total package, Burrell gets the nod because he’s already done it in the Negadelphia spotlight and he’s a right-handed bat.
Could Amaro have brought Burrell back at less than he was making before? There’s probably an obvious example, but I can’t think of one. It’s tough to tell your boss that you put above average numbers and the team won the World Series, but at 32 years old you’re willing to return at half the salary— no matter what the market and economy are indicating.
Burrell’s popularity: talk about some pendulum swings! After his 2nd full season, they were ready to put up statues and name the new ballpark for him. After 2003 and .209/.309/.404, they were ready to run him out of town. He’s had 4-6 week stints every season in the last few years where he would be SO lost at the plate that they’d actually have to bench him for 10 days to clear his head. The Phans outrage would kick in with every one of these.
August ’08: OPS+ 43;
Sep/Oct ’08: OPS+ 66;
May ’07; OPS+ 72;
June ’07: OPS+ 24.
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Mar 20, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
three bullets
- Great job, once again
- I expect Brett Myers to beat his projection. Prolly beat the shit out of it. In public perhaps.
- One other former Red who’s hard to forget:
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
hey
i am going to spend most of my Monday at Loyola meeting faculty and driving home from Chicago, this just came up. I could either email my preview to a mod in advance, or if whoever is in line to go Tuesday wants to switch, I could do that. I don’t care which one. I plan to write mine out tonight.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
If somebody wants to switch with you, that's fine
otherwise just email it to one of us. Another option, if you get it done tonight, is just to run it this weekend. chesirecat seems to have fallen off the face of the earth, so we weren’t treated to his Mets preview yesterday. If you want to run yours this weekend, we can run the Mets one on Monday. What do you think, justin?
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
do you want to run it on saturday or Sunday?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Mar 20, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Whenever you get it done.
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
Oh yeah
and any volunteers for the Mets preview to run Monday then? First one to call it here gets dibs, if nobody calls it by midnight tonight, I’ll take it on.
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
It's all yours
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
by BK on Mar 20, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
cheshirecat is in Scotland, I think
blowing off POTUS-election-related steam. I think he only shows up here nowadays to post invective about bad FA signings.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
excellent piece
well versed as noted above…
don’t underestimate the importance of ‘chooch’ (ruiz)… almost the entire staff preferred to throw to him and i think he’s the only man in baseball who can consistently handle lidge’s slider… i’ll gladly take a hole in the 8th spot of the batting order for that kind of consistent defense behind the plate (after all, it won us a championship, not to mention his out of nowhere offensive production in the postseason…)
keep in mind ronnie paulino is probably going to be the backup to ruiz and can easily come off the bench for his offense and close out games… i just hope he can handle lidge’s stuff…
i think the phils and mets will go down to the wire yet again only this time each club will be in the 94 to 99 wins range… here’s to hopin the phightin end up on top one more time!!!
kudos
As one of the bloggers at The Good Phight, just wanted to bestow some propers for a fine piece on our boys.
Jayson Stark touched on this earlier in the week, but I do think there are potential parallels between the two teams (and I say this as someone who’s put the Reds near the top of my favorite non-Phils teams since 1990). Cincinnati has a young lineup core with Phillips, Votto, Bruce and maybe Encarnacion that could resemble our Utley/Rollins/Howard/Burrell array. They’ve added some defense-first support in getting Gonzalez back and Tavares—though Willy’s woeful OBP probably makes that a bad tradeoff, your pitchers will be happy to have him out there. I love the Reds’ rotation, which I think resembles ours in the two talented guys (Hamels/Myers, Volquez/Cueto) and the two solid vet types (Moyer/Blanton, Harang/Arroyo). Finally, Jocketty is the perfect GM to finish the job of taking a talented core and getting it over the hump—just like Pat Gillick was.
The big differences are probably that I trust the Phils’ bullpen a good bit more, and I vastly prefer Manuel’s steady leadership in the dugout to that of Dusty Baker, one of the more overrated managers in the game and a particularly bad fit for a young and talented team like the Reds.
I actually picked the Reds to win the Central in our predictions thread on TGP, though that might have been wishcasting more than analysis. I’ll be rooting for you guys.
Thanks
As I mentioned above, I was rooting for the Phillies during the playoffs this year, so I hope you’re right and our teams can meet in the playoffs this year!
I can see some resemblance as well, except you guys in the early part of the Chutley era were at least able to break the .500 mark. I won’t start getting excited until the Reds start to do that as well.
5th starter
Once again, great work.
It’s probably worth noting that the 5th spot in the rotation is now ostensibly down to the above-named Park as well as rookie lefthander J.A. Happ. Although at this point I kind of suspect that Park has the edge, as he’s been pretty solid in the Grapefruit League.
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Great work
Another Phils phan checking in here.
One of the best previews of the Phillies that I’ve read anywhere, let alone by a an “amateur” (and by that I mean only that you’re presumably unpaid) and a fan of a different team.
Cherry on top for the Ibanez-Burrell switch
is they lost a draft pick without gaining one back for Burrell. Just horribly misplayed by Amaro, who was picked to run the team over another internal candidate, Mike Arbuckle (who left for KC). Arbuckle was the scouty one by reputation who helped build the team’s core, while Amaro was perceived as the better wheeler-and-dealer and PR guy. Amaro must have tricked Gillick into seeing more talent than is there, because it looks like the Phillies picked Gob over Michael. Which could be a huge mistake.
I’d keep Feliz as the starter at 3B just because his glove is that much better than Dobbs, but it’s a close call either way. Given the age and past injury history of their OF starters Dobbs should get a significant number of starts out there anyways. Great job, teb7.
Happy Pete
It’s really just the Strat-O-Matic fanatic in me, but my complaint with Feliz is really more about managers being more flexible with their rosters, especially in the National League. In the Phillies case, Hamels, Blanton, and Moyer give up a lot of flyballs. If I were Uncle Charlie, I’d start Dobbs at 3B in these games, then bring in Feliz as a double switch pinch hitter for the pitcher later on in the game. Or if Ibanez proves to be equally awful, move Dobbs out to LF and bring in Feliz at 3B. Myers is more the groundball type, so I’d start Feliz on those days and bring in Dobbs or Stairs to pinch hit in high leverage situations.
That’s really a fantasy world, though. I completely understand that managers have to manage personalities as well, and it’s entirely possible that Dobbs and Feliz would both suffer if they were used so often as interchangeable parts.
"I have no problem with that."
By and large, Phils fans are upset about losing the draft pick, too.
Burrell has been on his way out in Philly since 2003, and it really feels like the “management” was going to let him go no matter what, and that from his Seattle days, Ibanez had Gillick, who stayed with the team as an advisor, as an advocate.
I’m pretty sure Ibanez is going to be good here. But they gave up an awful lot for a player who doesn’t really constitute an upgrade in any meaningful way.
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